I don't care about 'updoots', I care about dead russians. The more the merrier. As a western european moderate, I wish to send more air defense systems, ATACMS and preferably some tomahawks to ukraine, so they can kill more russians.
Why is it called Kyiv?
It's Kievan Rus in Ck2, back when the ancestors of Ukrainians ruled that part. It was called kiev until recently. What's the point of calling it Kyiv?
>Not very cost effective
i mean it depends on what you mean by cost effective. a tomahawk or ATACM could probably fully bring down the crimea bridge. something a tiny loitering munition such as the shahed could never do
A Tomahawk can actually hit and destroy a fortified military target as well as take measures to avoid enemy air defense. 100 Shaheds may be good at nosediving into gas stations and playgrounds, but they're not getting through something like a hardened concrete bunker, assuming they don't get shot down by literal guys with AKs on the way there.
I unironically don't think 100 shaheds could get through to the bridge, let alone damage it enough to bring it down. The bridge is well guarded against air attacks, shaheds are slow as frick, and the bridge is a much smaller target to focus defenses around than literally the entirety of Ukraine which is why a dozen or so of them can get close to Ukie cities; they're useless against mobile AND well defended targets, so they have absolutely zero real military use.
why are vatniks constantly posting this same photoshopped image. Like what moron sat there and thought to himself, "hmmmmm yes today rather than just grabbing a nighttime picture of google maps I will edit this well known photo to appear to be night"
The level of moronation vatniks continue to shit out is astonishing
sage for vatnik shill thread
They killed just a couple of people according ukie news, now you tell me they are using them to attack civilians? You guys should agree which version is the one
They killed just a couple of people according ukie news, now you tell me they are using them to attack civilians? You guys should agree which version is the one
Your ESL ass really needs to understand when people are joking, Russhits aren't actually launching suicide attacks with their own jets they just happen to keep crashing them into civilian areas. This
https://i.imgur.com/vDyj404.jpg
>cost effective
pic related is a prime example of cost effective drones.
killed something like 13 people while the pilot ejected.
Not him but he's right about them being cheap. They're just model airplanes with an explosive payload.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-russia-is-using-iranian-killer-drones-to-spread-terror-in-ukraine
>Not very cost effective
$20 is a lot more to someone who only has $40 than $10,000 is to someone who has millions. 'Cost effectiveness' is not just a function of flat cost, and we can give Ukraine just as many GMLRs as Iran can give Russia. Probably more. I don't expect Iran to be able to push these things out in the quantities they frankly need to be, and I'd be fricking flabbergasted if the flight control systems for the Shahed actually had the capabilities they'd need to be effective battlefield weapons (swarm control, etc). In reality the Shahed control box is probably nothing more than a command prompt that asks for raw GPS coordinates, and a red button that says LAUNCH in Farsi because they couldn't get stickers in Russian. As they are, the only thing they can do is be harassment and terror weapons that are too troublesome to intercept when there are still Kalibrs and Tochkas to intercept.
Russians are experimenting with new type of kamikaze. They replace oxygen tanks with copium. Pilots be come submissive, even passing out and crash plane. They just haven't figured out the proper copium/nitrogen mix that allows pilots to make it to Ukraine.
https://files.catbox.moe/ehh6ij.mp3
I hate vatniks and shahed spam posters as much as the next guy but your constant posting of bans as if they mean anything shows you're a newbie tourist.
At least try and understand board culture. No one gives a frick about bans and certainly no one posts bans to try and 'own' another poster. It takes literally minutes to evade a ban and is simply a slight nuisance rather than anything else. You're actually just showing how ineffective this website is in tackling shills and spammers.
are you on the same level of khokhols? good to know Russian porky >https://twitter.com/HerryNapit/status/1584618823302672384?s=20&t=d6cxniN4E-V20dzQxDNC7Q
My god you just can't stop sucking dick can't you?
Terrorbombing doesn't work anymore, it's an obsolete strategy. It's literally in Ukraine's favor to rally the population against Russia, so Iran is actually helping Ukraine with their propaganda ironically enough.
It's not terror bombing. It's bringing Ukrainians to heel. Their anti-democractic days are over. That's what they get for trying to do their own j6. No mercy.
I think to be on the safe side Russia will just continue with the destruction of Ukrainian dual-use infrastructure (just to be sure) as they can't exactly trust media reports from Ukraine and the west that "it's obviously not working." It worked in Desert Storm so surely Russia is at least as smart as Americans to take out that infrastructure (again, just to be sure).
Hopefully outdoor lines in Kiev this winter, for water and food, don't get too long and don't get too cold. I'm sure songs of bandera will unite the ukraines and tiktok will reward them for their efforts as they slowly return into the stone age.
And when these terror attacks are used as an excuse by the West to dismantle the Russian state, you will remember how gleefully you cheered on attacking civilians and try desperately to justify it.
>how gleefully you cheered on attacking civilians and try desperately to justify it.
Need ya to have a seat. Need to tell ya about all those wedding parties the USA droned in Afghanistan and Iraq.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I don't think trying to kill a terrorist and getting a wedding convoy is the same as deliberately targeting playgrounds and parks
1 year ago
Anonymous
Another fine WUTABOUTISM post
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Whataboutism
I don't need to cheer on America's crimes to boo on Russian ones.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Russia's are collateral damage whilst engaging in a limited defensive intervention to right the wrongs of Ukraine's "j6 moment" in 2014 which normalized nazi worship in Ukraine. You are either pro-Nazi or anti-Nazi and it's never okay to be on the side of Nazis. Never.
America fights aggressive wars abroad which pose no risk to the US whereas Russia has a weaponized nazi aggressor state on its border killing its people for years now. Obviously this poses a grave risk to Russia and many experts have foretold.
You cannot compare the two.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>America fights aggressive wars abroad which pose no risk to the US
They deserved it >Russia has a weaponized nazi aggressor state on its border
Nah. >killing its people for years now.
Never happened. >Obviously this poses a grave risk to Russia and many experts have foretold.
Fortold deez nuts kekalekalek. Mobilize and get HIMARSed.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>engaging in a limited defensive intervention
Trolling is forbidden outside of /b/
1 year ago
Anonymous
The "Weaponized Nazi Aggressor State" wouldn't be nearly as weaponized, aggressive, or 'nazi' if Russia didn't keep fricking shit up in its own backyard like with Georgia, stealing the Crimea, and propping up the two phony people's republics.
Ukraine as it is right now, is a 'monster' of Russia's own creation.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's right, but every regional power does it. Russia does it, China does it, Turkey does it, and the US probably did it the most (South America, Irak, Afghanistan, not even mentioning the Indians genocide). Hell, even Europeans used some shitty humanist excuse to colonize Africa and Asia. History is written by the winner, it's all that counts. Being right or wrong only serves as an excuse to invade someone else or some way to cope when you lose. The only rule is power.
1 year ago
Anonymous
If we are following the might makes right line of thinking, then Russia deserves to be broken for showing such overwhelming weakness.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's right. But I don't think China will let them down, they NEED that cheap gas and natural resources. The following months will be interesting to see.
1 year ago
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1 year ago
Anonymous
At least we had the common decency to feel bad about that. Because unlike Russia, in the US, you could object to the various measures the United States were doing to try to crush the terrorists in bumfrickastan all you want and not get disappeared.
Frick's sakes bombing a wedding in Hicksistan was the plot point in shit like that one Shia Lebeouf film.
Love to see some poor Ivan try to make a film about 'hey maybe we shouldn't bomb Ukrainian civilians' without getting publicly lynched.
>terror attacks
NATO Allied Doctrine Chapter 1 Section 7 defines lawful military targets. Russia is operating by the book but that makes you seethe. Curious.
>West to dismantle the Russian state
You tried in the 90s and you failed. You'll never have that chance again. You have 7% internal media approval. Most Americans either don't care or support Russia. You're a fringe group.
The big difference between this war and desert storm is that the US was able to decimate the Iraqi troops and complete their mission with minimal casualties, while Russia is stuck, has no manpower for any offensive and still doesn't have air superiority and took about 100x more casualties in the same amount of time. Terrorbombing the population seems desperate and not a show of force. Especially since they rely on donated drones to do so.
When we hit the Iraqi power grid, we hit it HARD with proper amounts of firepower, not this weak limp glorified flying lawnmowers with anemic explosive loads, when the US bombs a power station, its fricking gutted, which makes repairs infinitely more difficult to perform.
In contrast with the Micro V1 Buzz Bombs, which has enough power to knock out a power station, but not enough to knock it out for long.
Because Ukrainian infrastructure is intercepting 90% of all drones. At this rate I don't know how much longer Russian drones can continue to take this much damage.
It's literally just a really fricking slow missile. It has no capabilities other than be cheap and explode at X coordinates. Just a mass produced DIY alibaba kamikaze drone.
At least the Switchblade can actually do drone shit before exploding.
> nothing changed since the drones arrived
Well, there is no electricity in kyiv for 4-5 hours a day for a last week, almost every day.
As for shahed drones themselves, there were no significant activity since last monday(no explosions or gunfire heard, nothing fresh in the news).
>Styrofoam deltawing >Pusher prop powered by 2-stroke $1000 Alibaba lawnmower engine >Stick of dynamite in the nose
What a superior piece of technology and engineering. We in the west should be absolutely terrified!
With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Iranian goat, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Iranian quantum direct-current electricity, quantum aircraft carriers, quantum enhanced railguns, and quantum kamikaze laser shooting drones that fly at light speed will be the instruments with which Iran affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.
I think the russians gave the ukranians enough effective drones, they keep crashing SU-30's into russian highrises for some reason.
>Kiev Now
>2 million per piece vs 20k
Not very cost effective
>kiev
It's Kyiv, if you conquer it you can rename it.
How's the cement factory in bakhmut doing, by the way?
Idk maybe some hecking ukrainian heroes can post the updoots... Oh no there is no electricity kek
I don't care about 'updoots', I care about dead russians. The more the merrier. As a western european moderate, I wish to send more air defense systems, ATACMS and preferably some tomahawks to ukraine, so they can kill more russians.
my tax dollars have never been better spend.
>western european
>dollars
t. beaner
You will never have a based trad hohol wife
>thinking about women
>on the weapons board
>t. homosexual
>tax dollars
>European
Americans are so utterly stupid.
>ITS KEEEEEV
post moskva
post iziyum
post vdv
post kharkov
post Azov leadership
post crimean bridge
post hostomel airport
I could literally go on, russian humiliation knows no bounds
Russia failed hard and didn’t took it. So its Kyiv, homosexual
post indoor plumbing
You need to conquer something before you get to name it, sweetie *~~*~~*~~
It's Kyiv
It's the capital of Ukraine
And its president is not P*tin
Why is it called Kyiv?
It's Kievan Rus in Ck2, back when the ancestors of Ukrainians ruled that part. It was called kiev until recently. What's the point of calling it Kyiv?
Making russians seethe mostly
It's even more silly when you know that in ukrianian kyiv is prononced... exactly like kiev is in english.
>Not very cost effective
i mean it depends on what you mean by cost effective. a tomahawk or ATACM could probably fully bring down the crimea bridge. something a tiny loitering munition such as the shahed could never do
100 shaheds vs 1 tomahawk, that's what I mean
A Tomahawk can actually hit and destroy a fortified military target as well as take measures to avoid enemy air defense. 100 Shaheds may be good at nosediving into gas stations and playgrounds, but they're not getting through something like a hardened concrete bunker, assuming they don't get shot down by literal guys with AKs on the way there.
I unironically don't think 100 shaheds could get through to the bridge, let alone damage it enough to bring it down. The bridge is well guarded against air attacks, shaheds are slow as frick, and the bridge is a much smaller target to focus defenses around than literally the entirety of Ukraine which is why a dozen or so of them can get close to Ukie cities; they're useless against mobile AND well defended targets, so they have absolutely zero real military use.
why are vatniks constantly posting this same photoshopped image. Like what moron sat there and thought to himself, "hmmmmm yes today rather than just grabbing a nighttime picture of google maps I will edit this well known photo to appear to be night"
The level of moronation vatniks continue to shit out is astonishing
sage for vatnik shill thread
>effective drone strike
For russia, killing women and children is regarded as an effective drone strike
all vatniks are Black folk, I can prove it mathematically
Shaf SU-30 version
They killed just a couple of people according ukie news, now you tell me they are using them to attack civilians? You guys should agree which version is the one
Your ESL ass really needs to understand when people are joking, Russhits aren't actually launching suicide attacks with their own jets they just happen to keep crashing them into civilian areas. This
killed something like 13 people while the pilot ejected.
What's that even has to do with America not giving good drones like Iran is doing with Russia?
It means that Russian pilots are doing more damage to their own civilians that your moron drones could ever do to Ukraine.
Did it kill people or Russians?
>cost effective
pic related is a prime example of cost effective drones.
>posting photoshops
What are you trying to achieve here?
Northrop Harassment Weapons System (HWS) copy from the 70s
>vs 20k
Proof?
Not him but he's right about them being cheap. They're just model airplanes with an explosive payload.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-russia-is-using-iranian-killer-drones-to-spread-terror-in-ukraine
>NO STREET LIGTS IN KYIV
It's over
Literally every building has at least a couple lights on. It's as if... it was a daytime photo that was shopped. you fricking homosexual
>Not very cost effective
$20 is a lot more to someone who only has $40 than $10,000 is to someone who has millions. 'Cost effectiveness' is not just a function of flat cost, and we can give Ukraine just as many GMLRs as Iran can give Russia. Probably more. I don't expect Iran to be able to push these things out in the quantities they frankly need to be, and I'd be fricking flabbergasted if the flight control systems for the Shahed actually had the capabilities they'd need to be effective battlefield weapons (swarm control, etc). In reality the Shahed control box is probably nothing more than a command prompt that asks for raw GPS coordinates, and a red button that says LAUNCH in Farsi because they couldn't get stickers in Russian. As they are, the only thing they can do is be harassment and terror weapons that are too troublesome to intercept when there are still Kalibrs and Tochkas to intercept.
oh my lord the lights are out in Kyiv?! I'm calling Biden to put a stop to this war.
>cost effective
Don’t have to worry about that when you’re not a third world poor gay country like russia
>Not very cost effective
this HAS to be a false flag right. there is no way this is not a false flag
Russians are experimenting with new type of kamikaze. They replace oxygen tanks with copium. Pilots be come submissive, even passing out and crash plane. They just haven't figured out the proper copium/nitrogen mix that allows pilots to make it to Ukraine.
https://files.catbox.moe/ehh6ij.mp3
Because the US has this thing called the Tomahawk missile that's literally superior to the Shahed in every way. And uncontested air supremacy.
oh when does israelitekraine get those?
Inshallah the shahed will soon bring death to all corrupt westerners. Russia is the vanguard of the Islamic Revolution.
You mean the thousands of switchblades they got months ago?
Will you stop spamming /k/ with your piece of shit drone? Nobody cares
bye bye
I hate vatniks and shahed spam posters as much as the next guy but your constant posting of bans as if they mean anything shows you're a newbie tourist.
you are clearly a tourist you dumb shit, anyone who's been here longer than breakfast knows how to easily circumvent any ban.
>that dumb shill Black person misusing simpson templates is back
At least try and understand board culture. No one gives a frick about bans and certainly no one posts bans to try and 'own' another poster. It takes literally minutes to evade a ban and is simply a slight nuisance rather than anything else. You're actually just showing how ineffective this website is in tackling shills and spammers.
> game changer
>changes nothing
is the Shahed 136 pro ukrainian `? becaus the only game that got change is in kherson
The hohols started it by thanking the turks for Bayraktar and making songs about it
But those were actually effective and made a difference. (moskva snake island good will gesture etc)
Everybody expected Russia to have cruise missile tech already ( even their wunderwaffe supersonics) they could have hit infrastructure before
so what changed was doctrine not the weapon per se
are you on the same level of khokhols? good to know Russian porky
>https://twitter.com/HerryNapit/status/1584618823302672384?s=20&t=d6cxniN4E-V20dzQxDNC7Q
All the drone strikes really did was expedite deliveries of AA systems to Ukraine.
Please report & hide spam/flooding threads
I like this Ukejack. Ukraine better get on the ball and cme up with some Igorjacks.
My god you just can't stop sucking dick can't you?
Terrorbombing doesn't work anymore, it's an obsolete strategy. It's literally in Ukraine's favor to rally the population against Russia, so Iran is actually helping Ukraine with their propaganda ironically enough.
It's not terror bombing. It's bringing Ukrainians to heel. Their anti-democractic days are over. That's what they get for trying to do their own j6. No mercy.
post hostomel airport
Well, it's not working. As said, terrorbombing doesn't intimidate the population anymore, it's an obsolete strategy.
I think to be on the safe side Russia will just continue with the destruction of Ukrainian dual-use infrastructure (just to be sure) as they can't exactly trust media reports from Ukraine and the west that "it's obviously not working." It worked in Desert Storm so surely Russia is at least as smart as Americans to take out that infrastructure (again, just to be sure).
Hopefully outdoor lines in Kiev this winter, for water and food, don't get too long and don't get too cold. I'm sure songs of bandera will unite the ukraines and tiktok will reward them for their efforts as they slowly return into the stone age.
>so surely Russia is at least as smart as Americans
I have some bad news for you.
And when these terror attacks are used as an excuse by the West to dismantle the Russian state, you will remember how gleefully you cheered on attacking civilians and try desperately to justify it.
>how gleefully you cheered on attacking civilians and try desperately to justify it.
Need ya to have a seat. Need to tell ya about all those wedding parties the USA droned in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I don't think trying to kill a terrorist and getting a wedding convoy is the same as deliberately targeting playgrounds and parks
Another fine WUTABOUTISM post
>Whataboutism
I don't need to cheer on America's crimes to boo on Russian ones.
Russia's are collateral damage whilst engaging in a limited defensive intervention to right the wrongs of Ukraine's "j6 moment" in 2014 which normalized nazi worship in Ukraine. You are either pro-Nazi or anti-Nazi and it's never okay to be on the side of Nazis. Never.
America fights aggressive wars abroad which pose no risk to the US whereas Russia has a weaponized nazi aggressor state on its border killing its people for years now. Obviously this poses a grave risk to Russia and many experts have foretold.
You cannot compare the two.
>America fights aggressive wars abroad which pose no risk to the US
They deserved it
>Russia has a weaponized nazi aggressor state on its border
Nah.
>killing its people for years now.
Never happened.
>Obviously this poses a grave risk to Russia and many experts have foretold.
Fortold deez nuts kekalekalek. Mobilize and get HIMARSed.
>engaging in a limited defensive intervention
Trolling is forbidden outside of /b/
The "Weaponized Nazi Aggressor State" wouldn't be nearly as weaponized, aggressive, or 'nazi' if Russia didn't keep fricking shit up in its own backyard like with Georgia, stealing the Crimea, and propping up the two phony people's republics.
Ukraine as it is right now, is a 'monster' of Russia's own creation.
That's right, but every regional power does it. Russia does it, China does it, Turkey does it, and the US probably did it the most (South America, Irak, Afghanistan, not even mentioning the Indians genocide). Hell, even Europeans used some shitty humanist excuse to colonize Africa and Asia. History is written by the winner, it's all that counts. Being right or wrong only serves as an excuse to invade someone else or some way to cope when you lose. The only rule is power.
If we are following the might makes right line of thinking, then Russia deserves to be broken for showing such overwhelming weakness.
That's right. But I don't think China will let them down, they NEED that cheap gas and natural resources. The following months will be interesting to see.
At least we had the common decency to feel bad about that. Because unlike Russia, in the US, you could object to the various measures the United States were doing to try to crush the terrorists in bumfrickastan all you want and not get disappeared.
Frick's sakes bombing a wedding in Hicksistan was the plot point in shit like that one Shia Lebeouf film.
Love to see some poor Ivan try to make a film about 'hey maybe we shouldn't bomb Ukrainian civilians' without getting publicly lynched.
Collateral damage is a thing.
>terror attacks
NATO Allied Doctrine Chapter 1 Section 7 defines lawful military targets. Russia is operating by the book but that makes you seethe. Curious.
>West to dismantle the Russian state
You tried in the 90s and you failed. You'll never have that chance again. You have 7% internal media approval. Most Americans either don't care or support Russia. You're a fringe group.
The big difference between this war and desert storm is that the US was able to decimate the Iraqi troops and complete their mission with minimal casualties, while Russia is stuck, has no manpower for any offensive and still doesn't have air superiority and took about 100x more casualties in the same amount of time. Terrorbombing the population seems desperate and not a show of force. Especially since they rely on donated drones to do so.
When we hit the Iraqi power grid, we hit it HARD with proper amounts of firepower, not this weak limp glorified flying lawnmowers with anemic explosive loads, when the US bombs a power station, its fricking gutted, which makes repairs infinitely more difficult to perform.
In contrast with the Micro V1 Buzz Bombs, which has enough power to knock out a power station, but not enough to knock it out for long.
>That's what they get for trying to do their own j6.
Wouldn't that be the homosexuals in the """DPR"""
No because Jan 6 was based, for how unintentional it was.
Because Ukrainian infrastructure is intercepting 90% of all drones. At this rate I don't know how much longer Russian drones can continue to take this much damage.
>The Shahed 136 is a game changer
but is it really?
Depends on who you ask
I don't understand?
It's literally just a really fricking slow missile. It has no capabilities other than be cheap and explode at X coordinates. Just a mass produced DIY alibaba kamikaze drone.
At least the Switchblade can actually do drone shit before exploding.
No, but vatBlack folk had successfully used a su-30 manned drone to destroy a babushkas house the other day.
20k a drone?
I wonder why Sevastopol has been scrambling away its navy the past few days*~~
How in the world is Russia less technologically advanced and less industrially capable than fricking Iran?
A reminder.
What is the motive behind Shahed spam?
Marketing?
Agitation for Iran?
Agitation against Iran?
Cope?
>doing it for free
>game changer
>nothing changed since the drones arrived
OP is a homosexual vatBlack person or mudslime that spams this fricking thread non-stop every day.
> nothing changed since the drones arrived
Well, there is no electricity in kyiv for 4-5 hours a day for a last week, almost every day.
As for shahed drones themselves, there were no significant activity since last monday(no explosions or gunfire heard, nothing fresh in the news).
still not buying your drones mahmoud
1000000 hours ms paint.
Here's your "artist"
>russia fields a cool new buzz boy
>it works ok
>pro-russia anons FLOOD /k/ with threads about their new wonderwaffe
bit mentol innit?
>Styrofoam deltawing
>Pusher prop powered by 2-stroke $1000 Alibaba lawnmower engine
>Stick of dynamite in the nose
What a superior piece of technology and engineering. We in the west should be absolutely terrified!
Impressive.
With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Iranian goat, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Iranian quantum direct-current electricity, quantum aircraft carriers, quantum enhanced railguns, and quantum kamikaze laser shooting drones that fly at light speed will be the instruments with which Iran affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.
Thanks to israeli Graft in the USA's Defense Industry we cannot manufacture a drone like the Shahed-134 to sell to the world.
The USA is going to have a tought time competing and selling cheap drones due to israeli Graft in the Defense Industry.