Why the US can't give effective drones to Ukraine like Iran gave to Russia? The Shahed 136 is a game changer

Why the US can't give effective drones to Ukraine like Iran gave to Russia? The Shahed 136 is a game changer

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think the russians gave the ukranians enough effective drones, they keep crashing SU-30's into russian highrises for some reason.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Kiev Now

      Because the US has this thing called the Tomahawk missile that's literally superior to the Shahed in every way. And uncontested air supremacy.

      >2 million per piece vs 20k
      Not very cost effective

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >kiev
        It's Kyiv, if you conquer it you can rename it.
        How's the cement factory in bakhmut doing, by the way?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Idk maybe some hecking ukrainian heroes can post the updoots... Oh no there is no electricity kek

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't care about 'updoots', I care about dead russians. The more the merrier. As a western european moderate, I wish to send more air defense systems, ATACMS and preferably some tomahawks to ukraine, so they can kill more russians.

            my tax dollars have never been better spend.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >western european
              >dollars
              t. beaner
              You will never have a based trad hohol wife

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >thinking about women
                >on the weapons board
                >t. gay

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >tax dollars
              >European
              Americans are so utterly stupid.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >ITS KEEEEEV

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            post moskva
            post iziyum
            post vdv
            post kharkov
            post Azov leadership
            post crimean bridge
            post hostomel airport

            I could literally go on, russian humiliation knows no bounds

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Russia failed hard and didn’t took it. So its Kyiv, gay

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            post indoor plumbing

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You need to conquer something before you get to name it, sweetie *~~*~~*~~

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's Kyiv
            It's the capital of Ukraine
            And its president is not P*tin

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why is it called Kyiv?
          It's Kievan Rus in Ck2, back when the ancestors of Ukrainians ruled that part. It was called kiev until recently. What's the point of calling it Kyiv?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Making russians seethe mostly

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's even more silly when you know that in ukrianian kyiv is prononced... exactly like kiev is in english.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Not very cost effective
        i mean it depends on what you mean by cost effective. a tomahawk or ATACM could probably fully bring down the crimea bridge. something a tiny loitering munition such as the shahed could never do

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          100 shaheds vs 1 tomahawk, that's what I mean

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            A Tomahawk can actually hit and destroy a fortified military target as well as take measures to avoid enemy air defense. 100 Shaheds may be good at nosediving into gas stations and playgrounds, but they're not getting through something like a hardened concrete bunker, assuming they don't get shot down by literal guys with AKs on the way there.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I unironically don't think 100 shaheds could get through to the bridge, let alone damage it enough to bring it down. The bridge is well guarded against air attacks, shaheds are slow as fuck, and the bridge is a much smaller target to focus defenses around than literally the entirety of Ukraine which is why a dozen or so of them can get close to Ukie cities; they're useless against mobile AND well defended targets, so they have absolutely zero real military use.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        why are vatniks constantly posting this same photoshopped image. Like what retard sat there and thought to himself, "hmmmmm yes today rather than just grabbing a nighttime picture of google maps I will edit this well known photo to appear to be night"

        The level of retardation vatniks continue to shit out is astonishing
        sage for vatnik shill thread

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >effective drone strike

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          For russia, killing women and children is regarded as an effective drone strike
          all vatniks are morons, I can prove it mathematically

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They killed just a couple of people according ukie news, now you tell me they are using them to attack civilians? You guys should agree which version is the one

            Shaf SU-30 version

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They killed just a couple of people according ukie news, now you tell me they are using them to attack civilians? You guys should agree which version is the one

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Your ESL ass really needs to understand when people are joking, Russhits aren't actually launching suicide attacks with their own jets they just happen to keep crashing them into civilian areas. This

            https://i.imgur.com/vDyj404.jpg

            >cost effective

            pic related is a prime example of cost effective drones.

            killed something like 13 people while the pilot ejected.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              What's that even has to do with America not giving good drones like Iran is doing with Russia?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It means that Russian pilots are doing more damage to their own civilians that your retard drones could ever do to Ukraine.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Did it kill people or Russians?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >cost effective

        pic related is a prime example of cost effective drones.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >posting photoshops
        What are you trying to achieve here?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Northrop Harassment Weapons System (HWS) copy from the 70s

        >vs 20k
        Proof?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but he's right about them being cheap. They're just model airplanes with an explosive payload.
          https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-russia-is-using-iranian-killer-drones-to-spread-terror-in-ukraine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >NO STREET LIGTS IN KYIV
        It's over

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Literally every building has at least a couple lights on. It's as if... it was a daytime photo that was shopped. you fucking gay

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Not very cost effective
        $20 is a lot more to someone who only has $40 than $10,000 is to someone who has millions. 'Cost effectiveness' is not just a function of flat cost, and we can give Ukraine just as many GMLRs as Iran can give Russia. Probably more. I don't expect Iran to be able to push these things out in the quantities they frankly need to be, and I'd be fucking flabbergasted if the flight control systems for the Shahed actually had the capabilities they'd need to be effective battlefield weapons (swarm control, etc). In reality the Shahed control box is probably nothing more than a command prompt that asks for raw GPS coordinates, and a red button that says LAUNCH in Farsi because they couldn't get stickers in Russian. As they are, the only thing they can do is be harassment and terror weapons that are too troublesome to intercept when there are still Kalibrs and Tochkas to intercept.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        oh my lord the lights are out in Kyiv?! I'm calling Biden to put a stop to this war.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >cost effective
        Don’t have to worry about that when you’re not a third world poor fag country like russia

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Not very cost effective

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/vkaxRR8.jpg

        this HAS to be a false flag right. there is no way this is not a false flag

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Russians are experimenting with new type of kamikaze. They replace oxygen tanks with copium. Pilots be come submissive, even passing out and crash plane. They just haven't figured out the proper copium/nitrogen mix that allows pilots to make it to Ukraine.
      https://files.catbox.moe/ehh6ij.mp3

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because the US has this thing called the Tomahawk missile that's literally superior to the Shahed in every way. And uncontested air supremacy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      oh when does garden gnomekraine get those?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Inshallah the shahed will soon bring death to all corrupt westerners. Russia is the vanguard of the Islamic Revolution.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You mean the thousands of switchblades they got months ago?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Will you stop spamming PrepHole with your piece of shit drone? Nobody cares

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bye bye

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hate vatniks and shahed spam posters as much as the next guy but your constant posting of bans as if they mean anything shows you're a newfag tourist.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you are clearly a tourist you dumb shit, anyone who's been here longer than breakfast knows how to easily circumvent any ban.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >that dumb shill moron misusing simpson templates is back

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          At least try and understand board culture. No one gives a fuck about bans and certainly no one posts bans to try and 'own' another poster. It takes literally minutes to evade a ban and is simply a slight nuisance rather than anything else. You're actually just showing how ineffective this website is in tackling shills and spammers.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > game changer
    >changes nothing
    is the Shahed 136 pro ukrainian `? becaus the only game that got change is in kherson

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The hohols started it by thanking the turks for Bayraktar and making songs about it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But those were actually effective and made a difference. (moskva snake island good will gesture etc)

        Everybody expected Russia to have cruise missile tech already ( even their wunderwaffe supersonics) they could have hit infrastructure before

        so what changed was doctrine not the weapon per se

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        are you on the same level of khokhols? good to know Russian porky
        >https://twitter.com/HerryNapit/status/1584618823302672384?s=20&t=d6cxniN4E-V20dzQxDNC7Q

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      All the drone strikes really did was expedite deliveries of AA systems to Ukraine.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Please report & hide spam/flooding threads

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like this Ukejack. Ukraine better get on the ball and cme up with some Igorjacks.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My god you just can't stop sucking dick can't you?
    Terrorbombing doesn't work anymore, it's an obsolete strategy. It's literally in Ukraine's favor to rally the population against Russia, so Iran is actually helping Ukraine with their propaganda ironically enough.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not terror bombing. It's bringing Ukrainians to heel. Their anti-democractic days are over. That's what they get for trying to do their own j6. No mercy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        post hostomel airport

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well, it's not working. As said, terrorbombing doesn't intimidate the population anymore, it's an obsolete strategy.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think to be on the safe side Russia will just continue with the destruction of Ukrainian dual-use infrastructure (just to be sure) as they can't exactly trust media reports from Ukraine and the west that "it's obviously not working." It worked in Desert Storm so surely Russia is at least as smart as Americans to take out that infrastructure (again, just to be sure).

          Hopefully outdoor lines in Kiev this winter, for water and food, don't get too long and don't get too cold. I'm sure songs of bandera will unite the ukraines and tiktok will reward them for their efforts as they slowly return into the stone age.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >so surely Russia is at least as smart as Americans
            I have some bad news for you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And when these terror attacks are used as an excuse by the West to dismantle the Russian state, you will remember how gleefully you cheered on attacking civilians and try desperately to justify it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >how gleefully you cheered on attacking civilians and try desperately to justify it.
              Need ya to have a seat. Need to tell ya about all those wedding parties the USA droned in Afghanistan and Iraq.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think trying to kill a terrorist and getting a wedding convoy is the same as deliberately targeting playgrounds and parks

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Another fine WUTABOUTISM post

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Whataboutism
                I don't need to cheer on America's crimes to boo on Russian ones.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Russia's are collateral damage whilst engaging in a limited defensive intervention to right the wrongs of Ukraine's "j6 moment" in 2014 which normalized nazi worship in Ukraine. You are either pro-Nazi or anti-Nazi and it's never okay to be on the side of Nazis. Never.

                America fights aggressive wars abroad which pose no risk to the US whereas Russia has a weaponized nazi aggressor state on its border killing its people for years now. Obviously this poses a grave risk to Russia and many experts have foretold.

                You cannot compare the two.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >America fights aggressive wars abroad which pose no risk to the US
                They deserved it
                >Russia has a weaponized nazi aggressor state on its border
                Nah.
                >killing its people for years now.
                Never happened.
                >Obviously this poses a grave risk to Russia and many experts have foretold.
                Fortold deez nuts kekalekalek. Mobilize and get HIMARSed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >engaging in a limited defensive intervention
                Trolling is forbidden outside of /b/

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The "Weaponized Nazi Aggressor State" wouldn't be nearly as weaponized, aggressive, or 'nazi' if Russia didn't keep fucking shit up in its own backyard like with Georgia, stealing the Crimea, and propping up the two phony people's republics.
                Ukraine as it is right now, is a 'monster' of Russia's own creation.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's right, but every regional power does it. Russia does it, China does it, Turkey does it, and the US probably did it the most (South America, Irak, Afghanistan, not even mentioning the Indians genocide). Hell, even Europeans used some shitty humanist excuse to colonize Africa and Asia. History is written by the winner, it's all that counts. Being right or wrong only serves as an excuse to invade someone else or some way to cope when you lose. The only rule is power.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If we are following the might makes right line of thinking, then Russia deserves to be broken for showing such overwhelming weakness.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's right. But I don't think China will let them down, they NEED that cheap gas and natural resources. The following months will be interesting to see.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                At least we had the common decency to feel bad about that. Because unlike Russia, in the US, you could object to the various measures the United States were doing to try to crush the terrorists in bumfuckastan all you want and not get disappeared.
                Fuck's sakes bombing a wedding in Hicksistan was the plot point in shit like that one Shia Lebeouf film.
                Love to see some poor Ivan try to make a film about 'hey maybe we shouldn't bomb Ukrainian civilians' without getting publicly lynched.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Collateral damage is a thing.

              >terror attacks
              NATO Allied Doctrine Chapter 1 Section 7 defines lawful military targets. Russia is operating by the book but that makes you seethe. Curious.

              >West to dismantle the Russian state
              You tried in the 90s and you failed. You'll never have that chance again. You have 7% internal media approval. Most Americans either don't care or support Russia. You're a fringe group.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The big difference between this war and desert storm is that the US was able to decimate the Iraqi troops and complete their mission with minimal casualties, while Russia is stuck, has no manpower for any offensive and still doesn't have air superiority and took about 100x more casualties in the same amount of time. Terrorbombing the population seems desperate and not a show of force. Especially since they rely on donated drones to do so.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            When we hit the Iraqi power grid, we hit it HARD with proper amounts of firepower, not this weak limp glorified flying lawnmowers with anemic explosive loads, when the US bombs a power station, its fucking gutted, which makes repairs infinitely more difficult to perform.
            In contrast with the Micro V1 Buzz Bombs, which has enough power to knock out a power station, but not enough to knock it out for long.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >That's what they get for trying to do their own j6.
        Wouldn't that be the gays in the """DPR"""

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No because Jan 6 was based, for how unintentional it was.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because Ukrainian infrastructure is intercepting 90% of all drones. At this rate I don't know how much longer Russian drones can continue to take this much damage.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The Shahed 136 is a game changer
    but is it really?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on who you ask

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't understand?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's literally just a really fucking slow missile. It has no capabilities other than be cheap and explode at X coordinates. Just a mass produced DIY alibaba kamikaze drone.

      At least the Switchblade can actually do drone shit before exploding.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, but vatmorons had successfully used a su-30 manned drone to destroy a babushkas house the other day.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    20k a drone?
    I wonder why Sevastopol has been scrambling away its navy the past few days*~~

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How in the world is Russia less technologically advanced and less industrially capable than fucking Iran?

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A reminder.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What is the motive behind Shahed spam?

    Marketing?
    Agitation for Iran?
    Agitation against Iran?
    Cope?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >doing it for free

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >game changer
    >nothing changed since the drones arrived

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OP is a gay vatmoron or mudslime that spams this fucking thread non-stop every day.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > nothing changed since the drones arrived
      Well, there is no electricity in kyiv for 4-5 hours a day for a last week, almost every day.
      As for shahed drones themselves, there were no significant activity since last monday(no explosions or gunfire heard, nothing fresh in the news).

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    still not buying your drones mahmoud

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1000000 hours ms paint.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Here's your "artist"

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >russia fields a cool new buzz boy
    >it works ok
    >pro-russia anons FLOOD PrepHole with threads about their new wonderwaffe

    bit mentol innit?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Styrofoam deltawing
      >Pusher prop powered by 2-stroke $1000 Alibaba lawnmower engine
      >Stick of dynamite in the nose
      What a superior piece of technology and engineering. We in the west should be absolutely terrified!

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Impressive.

    With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Iranian goat, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Iranian quantum direct-current electricity, quantum aircraft carriers, quantum enhanced railguns, and quantum kamikaze laser shooting drones that fly at light speed will be the instruments with which Iran affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks to gnomish Graft in the USA's Defense Industry we cannot manufacture a drone like the Shahed-134 to sell to the world.

    The USA is going to have a tought time competing and selling cheap drones due to gnomish Graft in the Defense Industry.

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