Why the frick did the USA spent so much money to make the MRE pizza, why not just give our soldiers food like the PLA? They have more personnel and it fine.
Why the frick did the USA spent so much money to make the MRE pizza, why not just give our soldiers food like the PLA? They have more personnel and it fine.
because
Pizza taste good.
>why not just give our soldiers food like the PLA?
Moldy food?
Don't be absurd. Some of it is rancid instead of moldy.
Considering Chinese MREs nearly killed Steve and he can eat hundred year old rations without issue, I'd say copying China would be a really fricking dumb move.
FRESH Chinese MREs at that. Imagine those frickers being 2-3 years old and stored like dogshit. They might as well hand you a cyanide pill at that point.
They probably don't get worse with time. Those things are just fricking toxic, they probably contain arsenic or some kind of poison to keep them from spoiling.
I have a theory
Natick doesn't actually know how shit their food is, because they'd have to stuff it in a bag for 10 years before they can find out, and that's just not going to be a feasible development cycle
>Chinese MREs nearly killed Steve
Story me lol
Just watch his review of the PLA ration. It had literal green, rancid pork in a ration that was practically brand new.
That was because he tampered with the packaging months before his review.
?? The US soldiers rarely eat MRE's unless in the field or in training. Talked to an uncle and a couple friends of the family whom were all ex-military and all reiterated how 90% of the time back at the base it was real, actual food made by actual cooks.
Frick off bug, Steve is literally the most honest person you could possibly meet. And I've personally had multiple Chinese MRE's of my own and all 4 of them were like tasting death in a bag. And it's hardly just Steve, but plenty of other MRE reviewers have noticed the absolutely 0 quality control of the Chinese MRE's. I have had MRE's from the US, Russia, Canada, Ukraine, Germany, the UK, Lithuania, Spain, Japan & China. China has been actually the ONLY nations' MRE's out of that list where I would literally prefer playing Russian Roulette than ever try another bite of Chinese shit ever again. Even Russia's MRE's were great, though that was 5 years ago so who knows the quality of them nowadays since we've been seeing expired rations from 2015 in Ukraine.
>I would literally prefer playing Russian Roulette
16% mortality rate
>Botulism
10% mortality rate
I mean, honestly I think you're on to something here.
>we've been seeing expired rations from 2015 in Ukraine
Russhits thought "if Stepanov1989 can do it, the troops can do it"
someone will steal it and use it to evaporate Gotham's water supply after dumping a hallucinogen in the pipes
Who is this steve gay and where is the link to his video dunking on the chinks?
Bruh, it was already posted in the thread earlier. Also I can't believe you unironically don't know Steve, the #1 source for MRE info and reviews.
WTF is this true?
Is what true? The fact that most soldiers don't eat MRE's? Yes, absolutely. That's something hardly specific to the US; most armies in the world only eat MRE's while in the field or during training. Like 70% of a soldiers time is usually spent on base, and bases have cooks.
And although China also copies this behavior, they seem to have completely fricked up the MRE part. They seem to only have MRE's BECAUSE all other militaries have MRE's. The Chinese love to bring food carts and shit even into the field, which in an actual conflict, these can easily be targeted and destroyed. Their MRE's have no quality control and are literally there just to exist and say, "Look, China strong just like everyone else, we have MRE's too!"
An MRE and its predecessor the C rat are field rations
You eat them in combat and you are only supposed to replace one meal a day with them
Situations where you are forced to eat those are rare, as in cut off from support rare
Usual food are A or B rations
In WW2, this was regular food and canned food respectively
Today, they have more options aside from just canned
But MREs are actually quite pricey for their size and soldiers dont spend all their time fighting
>You eat them in combat
You eat them when you're out in the field and can't access the base mess or a field kitchen, if you're getting shot at you don't have time to eat.
>getting shot at you dont have time to eat
>sorry guys, I couldn't provide covering fire, I was stuffing my face
>not being able to shove gummy bears in mouth and then keep sending hate downrange.
even crayon eaters can manage it
Ching chong ching indeed
Sure he did. There is a reason the Chinese won't by Chinese made things like baby formula. Not to mention things like plastic rice and plastic boba..
Dude the Chinese themselves admit that their MRE's are shit. They are working the kinks with MRE's but its not exactly a priority as of now as their military is a largely- with a few exceptions- domestic force. Meaning they can just get real food from wherever & have all the time to cook it. MRE's are usually only eaten by expeditionary units operating in far off overseas places.
Hence the PLA tends to have loads of mobile kitchens like kitchen trucks, mobile stoves, and the airborne's airdroppable microwave. Not to mention literally all PLA soldiers can cook, as its part of their training.
>Not to mention literally all PLA soldiers can cook, as its part of their training.
Interesting any docs on this?
>Not to mention literally all PLA soldiers can cook, as its part of their training.
Ok, gotta give the chinks one thing, this wouldn't be the worst idea.
Gotta be ready in case you have to eat the kitchen staff when they run out of food and you run out of rifles to send them on a suicide charge.
lmao
But I meant more like being able to do the basics of cooking, like boiling water, frying something without fricking it up, etc. Every capable adult should know how cook for themselves, frying an egg, frying a sausage, frying some vegetables, boiling pasta, peeling and boiling potatoes, boiling an egg, etc. Doesn't need to be fancy, just consistently edible (ergo not undercooked or burnt).
Actually, school should probably teach this to begin with, then bootcamp can go through it just once or twice as a refresher and for team building.
Theoretically home ec is the 'how to adult' class, but practically it's worthless. The military already teaches basic skills an amazing number of people lack so it couldn't hurt to throw that one in.
My school never once offered any type of home ec class, not once. I got college level english and math starting in 10th grade though.
Home ec was in jr. high for me. I skipped it to be an office aide because I was on the honor roll. It basically gave me 2 homeroom periods so I rarely came home with extra work. From what friends and my brother told me it was a total joke.
High school should Ditch the electives and just have gym and home economics.
4 years and they should turn out fit and functional adults. That can pass the marine pt test and cook a beef wellington
>beef
Most wasteful type of food to produce. I don't see any reason why this should be encouraged.
Go be vegan somewhere else.
is that way >
Are you going to make another mental illness thread in /misc/? I've seen a couple.
yeah sure just eat ze bugs. go frick yourself
a lot of schools replaced home ec with pronoun classes. which is a pity; they had useful stuff for 12yos like cooking, washing up, laundry, etc
>found out later that I have severe astigmatism
kek
>I wanted to shut the b***h up
story
she was nuts. offered to stay on as frickbuddies after all the yelling and screaming was over, got another boyfriend in literal days, then maybe a month or two later dumped him and rang me up to frick her tears away
I just put down the phone
>yes I've wondered
>would probably have regretted it eventually
Friends I made in pldc wanted to go drinking before we flew back to Guam and Japan. I forget where we were, but we were drinking and eating fried stuff. While watching baseball. The Hawaiian one of tge group walks off. Comes back 15 minutes later. Sats he's got a girl that will frick us.
>why the hell not
Get in his car and follow another car do some park. The Hawaiian gets out, and I'm sitting in there with the Guam soldier.
>wtf?
The woman was early 20s, 5 foot nothing and probably 180 pounds. Stripping naked as she walks to a park bench and lays on it. We get out and I say to the Hawaiian.
>the hell man?
She's calls out, "you not enough of a man for this pussy?".
>right then.
Condom, walk over, dick out, and slammed it out in 5 minutes. Walled back to a base gate. Got a cab to the lodge. Showered and went to bed. Next day I get in the shuttle from the base to the airport. Guam was there and says Hawaii tried to put it in her butt and got decked.
Luckily I didn't catch anything.
>drunk dared
every time
That seems more like a thing your battle buddies would teach you. Half the shit you learn in basic and AIT is through the poor bastards that signed on with you.
>staged picture
>woks are 90% rust
Kek they are just scraping at the rusty woks yeah, Christ can China do anything right?
Burger, in China, you train newbie chefs on the ways of the wok flipping with a wok filled with sand.
>Hurr Durr Staged
It's a cooking school. The woks are trainers, because good woks are both expensive and easy to frick up. They're not stocking up on the real deal just so chinklets can practice flipping sand, that'd be a huge waste of money.
Did you also notice that they're at bare tables, with proper cutouts for woks, but with no heat source? Believe it or not, having a large group of students cook food continuously throughout the day is a terrible way to teach cooking and simultaneously burn through thousands of dollars in food pumping out shit-meals at the hands of students.
Real photo (probably, frick if I know) of a typical Chinese cooking class at a real culinary school.
Makes sense.
Next week they'll be in the big classroom and bring in the Pekingese.
Lmao sure
>I'm so smart I can see right through the Chinese lies, everyone else who says I'm a moron is actually wrong.
Yes, fry that rice!
Napalm Fried Rice
>t.
agreed clearly he poisoned himself on purpose to embarrass china
This. China can eliminate extreme poverty and provide clean food water to every village before 100 year party’s anniversary. and we believe they can’t have the best feeding armed forces?
Steve1989 is a pretty popular MRE reviewer, you may know him as the buff guy with a mullet that says nice. Anyway this motherfricker has eaten everything from hardtack to a literal 1899 Boer War beef ration without any fuss. Also got possessed by the spirits of soldiers past after smoking some WW1 era cigs (pretty sure it was that war anyways). None of that fricked him up, obviously he stayed away from the blatantly botulism filled dangerous stuff but he still ate whatever bits of rations he could. ALL of the Chinese rations he received that were relatively fresh as far as that stuff goes made him physically ill, and supposedly smelled of formaldehyde. They must also be fans of the Dr. Seuss book Green Eggs and Ham if the color of the chicken is to be taken into account too.
I think he's been hospitalized twice for botulism, so the Chinese field rations laying him out at the hospital too is pretty bad.
One was the Ukraine ration, can't remember the date, but I think it was something canned.
Always liked his smoking reviews, can't recall any that he disliked. I'm still curious about tasting those from his scho-ka-kola video, still funny that it is blocked for krauts.
>got possessed by the spirits of soldiers past after smoking some WW1 era cigs
Very /x/, so it's confirmed that souls can be recorded and spread through nicotine/ciggies?
Just watch the video, it's one of my favorite Steve vids.
Chinese rations almost killed the /k/ing of /k/. We use pizza MRE because it’s a comfort food. In the USA things like burgers, tacos and pizzas are comfort foods.
>In the USA things like burgers, tacos and pizzas are comfort foods
you mean staple foods
No Chink, it's for comfort, kind of like how gutter oil bat is a treat for you
Wasn't that a Russian MRE that gave him botulism?
It was both.
I'm beginning to understand why the Russians sent those sacks of onions and potatoes to Ukraine instead of relying on MREs
He's had multiple cases of botulism
Ukrainian, I thought. The Ukranian ration made him sick. The Chinese one fricked him up all the way to the hospital.
sounds like cope
Dang, this psy op is really getting to you guys. I didn't even take a stance on the war, just stating what happened.
>psy op
Go leave
go back to plebbit
I thought it was a Belarusian mountain ration
>Ukrainian, I thought. The Ukranian ration made him sick.
He actually enjoyed the Ukranian MRE very much. Didn't make him sick
>Ukranian ration
?t=594
Unless he didn't actually post the vid, I think it was the belorussian one
damn, I'll say a prayer for our boy steve. can't imagine the sadness i would feel if an MRE took him out.
He's a real homie that's for sure
I’m fairly certain he’s caught botulism at least 3 times since 2010 lmao
Because the troops had literally been asking for it for 30 years.
Because pizza is like sex, even when it's bad, it's still pretty good.
you have clearly never had bad pizza or bad sex, which means you've probably never had sex
This anon knows.
>t. Tried pizza from a place with no interior furnishings that was only open two months before closing. Had sex with a fat DDLG sub chick with tiny breasts and a loose pussy.
What is a DDLG? I don’t wanna google it
daddy dom little girl
basically a woman first kink when they had no father figure present
Or their father was a little too present, if ya know what I mean.
She acted like an 8-year-old in the bedroom. Talking like a little girl, calling me daddy, telling me I was her slave and I should make a plan for all the ways I was going to use her body as meat hole. Mind you this was the second night we were together. I'm into some weird shit but not that weird shit.
I shouldn't have fricking googled that.
That's some gross shit. Call me daddy but not "Daddy"-daddy. Think you probably avoided being murdered later.
Just looked up ddlg asmr and let a deep raspy black man tell me how gentle he'll be.
>Had sex with a fat DDLG sub chick with tiny breasts and a loose pussy.
Yeah thanks but I think I prefer no sex in that case.
Bro, I know what you mean, I once fricked this girl that had no ass or breasts, had a belly, and an awful yeast infection, she got super clingy too.
But why?
Nah. I'd still rather have bad sex. Than no sex.
I actually had pizza with semen toppings which means I both had sex and pizza.
Gobbling cum isn't sex. Just because I guzzle tons of cum doesn't make me gay, I don't touch penises or balls because I'm not a homosexual.
Yes you are gay
Worst sex I ever had was when I was out drinking with friends and got jumped by a trio of cougars, most likely because I had just grown a mustache and appeared to look older than I was.
When I tried to escape I found out my friends had left to go to another bar because they had thought that my 2 minute long shooting-the-shit session with a bunch of horny 40-year-old divorcees meant I was aiming to score some vintage snatch.
Ended up getting so drunk that I was basically strong-armed into a Chrysler Town and Country and ferried to the most attractive single mother's townhome (in retrospect, she was hideous, I found out later that I have severe astigmatism) since her 12-year-old daughter was having a sleepover somewhere.
God that b***h smelled awful. Anyway I was so drunk, uncomfortable, and not aroused that once the outer layers had been stripped and she had starfished in that usual "I used to be adventurous but because of my lower back issues and multiple pregnancies I can no longer do anything but missionary and light doggy" position, I basically slapped her time-to-replace-the-brake-rotors pussy with my flaccid wiener for around 90 seconds before I blamed my impotence on excess alcohol consumption and feigned sleep so I could sneak out and call a Lyft
I still cringe thinking about it to this day
I'm not even Catholic but I think you need confessional for that, m8.
I think I'll stick to jerking off to cartoons.
Many, many years from now, while you are on your deathbed in a nursing home, you will recall that night, in absolute clarity. In the moments before your spirit shuffles off this mortal coil, you will die with that image on your mind, and welcome oblivion with heartfelt joy.
I has to bang a ham planet I'm a public park the night after I graduate PLDC in Hawaii. In front of 2 other guys who were working up the courage to go next. As I didn't want sloppy seconds, and I wanted to shut the b***h up.
If she haddn't been fat it would have been hot
Jesus, dude. RIP
>time-to-replace-the-brake-rotors pussy
I got a headache trying to figure out what this means.
An overly complicated way of saying a really loose pussy?
Maybe?
I only fricked one woman that had a kid and her pussy was all lumpy and torn up inside, not smooth and soft like a younger woman. Was he trying to compare that to a brake rotor that has grooves cut in it from the brake pads being worn down to the backing plate?
Surely he can't expect the reader to be familiar with worn out car parts and worn out lady parts in order to understand this reference or am I overthinking it? Who is this person, banging old ladies, shooting guns, fixing cars, and stringing together analogies with esoteric knowledge?
You have to have detailed knowledge of automobiles, blown out pussy, guns, and the akashic records to even hope to have a glimmer of understanding of what that man was talking about
Having bad sex (fricking a fatty or uggo etc) is miserable. I'd take back all those seconds of my life if I could. No more assless thots or 5-6/10's. These days I only frick hotties and really pretty girls who like to get kinky sometimes.. It also gives you good memories. Quality over quantity on this one I say
This
In a really bad dry spell I fricked a....*ahem* ragingmassiveleftoid40yearoldwomanwithMS. Not once, but twice.
In hindsight, I am disgusted by it and every time something reminds me of it.
>tfw this whole thread
>tfw obesity epidemic got everyone fat
>girls who would naturally be slim stay that way
>girls who have to work to stay slim are all slowly turning into fricking cows
>be built with sam hydes body with king of manlets height
>basically a walking refrigerator
>realize one day I last longer and bust harder fricking petites
>yet it's like an entirely different game
>they're incredibly rare in my world and every one was either a few month hookup or one that got away
>meanwhile chunky b***hes can't get enough of me
>so sick and fricking tired of watching a girl with an extra 40 pounds of fricking sludge try to frick like a slim girl can
>no sorry, you can't lift me up and pin me against the wall
>oh I'm out of breath
>ow my legs don't bend that far
>my ass is fat and wide that means its the same as a cardio bunny's finely shaped ass right
>oh btw I love you
I swear to god, it's fricking miserable and I'm in yet another relationship with a girl that's already put on pounds since we met and I'm gonna have to go through the same old shit before we inevitably split because I keep poking her belly like the pillsbury dough boy and she's catching on that it's either get slim or gtfo. She loves firearms and wants kids but I'm deathly afraid of shacking up with a girl and her blowing up like a fricking balloon so I can be one of those guys with a fat b***h wife that says things like "ah sorry guys I can't chill tonight, gotta get home to the old ball and chain hehe". Not really looking forward to getting back out there and brushing up on my game once again but I'm literally getting limpdick fricking this girl and when I go scoot to the side hoe's (aforementioned petite body type) place I'm fricking diamonds and can go like the energizer bunny.
Change the diet, inform the thots
Cut the ultra processed foods, start intermittent fasting
oh she's aware of it, but like with anyone its just soooOOOOooo hard to stick to a plan.
might be a failure of my game to not lead her to fixing her shit but I'm at the point where I don't care enough to.
homeless guy shits on the floor of your bus? get off, there'll be another one at the stop in 15 minutes.
woman makes me perturbed or tries to play some kind of game, I just ignore it and am balls deep in another girl that night or the next evening
probably showing that my brains probably as busted as your average thot but I'm the main character so it's okay
thanks chateau h.
I find if people actually understand why these foods and added sugars are bad, they're more likely to change. Maybe instead of netflix make her watch a few of those
Sugar and processed foods are quite literally addictive as well, so it may take some effort
A good start would be having mostly healthy foods in the house, maybe get her to start doing some strength training
If none of those things work, better luck on the next time I guess
As an obese guy myself, I literally don't care. I have a permanently fricked up spine from an injury earlier in my life that causes me immense pain on a daily basis and food & prescription drugs are my ways of escaping that torture. I'd stick a shotgun in my mouth if not for immense emotional pain it would cause my family.
18 fricking years of this. Had back surgery at 15, car accident at 19, been through every single bit of physical therapy, exercises, acupuncture, hydrotherapy, chiropractic stuff, etc that I really don't care about my weight anymore.
Interesting, thing is, its not isn't just about obesity
Its about all the other diseases that compound sooner or later in life as a result of a poor diet, which will lead to decreased quality and length of life, not to mention the massive societal burden
If I only live to be 65, that's fine with me. Though my family has a lot of genetic issues so I probably won't live to then anyways as my mothers father had a heart attack and died at age 40 despite being completely healthy. And don't get me started on all the other myriad medical issues my mothers side of the family has had.
Well, good luck to you then
You'll be fine.
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Mre pizza tastes like poison but op is a subhuman chink robot
>pizza is like sex, even when it's bad, it's still pretty good
>never had bad pizza or bad sex
as a teenager, i went to the drive-in movie theater, got stoned, and ate a rotten pizza. just how bad is the sex you speak of?
You ever been fricking and suddenly she just starts crying out of nowhere and asks to stop
She usually starts crying and asks to stop when I'm just getting started.
Right, but what about bad sex?
oh anon... you're sweet.
My wife doesn't cry every time, am I doing something wrong? Am I not hitting her hard or often enough?
Obviously you limp-wristed fanny bandit
>suddenly she just starts crying
usually, when it's a new girl. big dick 19 cm here.
>malicious edging
an inexperienced girl took an hour, didn't make me cum. no malice intended, but she had braces.
>X isn't sex.
true. sexual reproduction require penis in vegana. anything else is a paraphilia.
>so drunk that I almost fricked a granny
just wait a few years kiddo, a drunk granny frick will be the highlight of your month.
>went first in gang bang
could have been worse.
+_+
none of this seems like bad sex compared to bad pizza. none of you puked and caught diarrhea.
>no malice intended
Therein lies the difference
Bitches playing games wear you out way more than charmingly honest incompetency
I've had a bit
>laughing manically while she's bouncing on you
>malicious edging
>stopping a blowie out of nowhere to look you in the eye and say seriously "I bet I could really hurt you if I just bit down hard right now"
wasn't even a good blowie
Ugh. Lemme guess she had cutting scars too?
>cutting
no; lackofdaddy issues, yes
she should thank her fricking stars I said no to the sex tape, the stupid b***h
started out wild NGL, at times you couldn't tell who was raping whom; and she'd come to work braless and knickerless so I could cop a feel, and we actually fricked in the filing room... but shit also got crazy fast
my first gf in high school was one of those crazy cutting emo b***hes. she fricked one of my friends after about a year and when I broke up with her over it she went fricking nuts and started punching me in the face, so I put my arm up to block them and then she started biting me as hard as she could. After I finally got her to leave she went around school and my small town telling everyone she had to break up with me because I was crazy and beat her and shit and basically ruined my reputation. She went to a hospital a couple weeks later and got an IV put in because she had low iron or something and it left a bruise on her arm and she went around telling people thats where I grabbed her to jerk her around
Should have beat her up for real.
Bingo. Wouldn't want to make a liar of the young lady.
I find all of these scenarous arousing tho
you want any kind of laughing except Joker type laughing
or perhaps that's Harley Quinn
and edging stops being funny after too long
>and edging stops being funny after too long
As someone who enjoys it, yeah. People think 'blue balls' is a figure of speech but it's literally something that happens after a while. Usually hours, though.
You didn't deserve her anyway, fricking homosexual. She sounds awesome.
You need to add the shitty tattoos and drug addiction. That would be the cherry on top of that crap sundae. I don't know why those type of psychos are attracted to me.
Fricking reddit homosexual
Post guns, Black person
>tolerates reheated sysco systems components and white girls
never
going
to
freaking
make
it
chubby white girls are fricking S tier in bed have a nice day
Except when they piss all over you and you choose to keep going and then get urine burn.
you don't like it when they piss on you?
I already said my piece, you go and learn how to read.
I'd say even bad spaghetti is still spaghetti.
>Why would troops want familiar (if imitation) comfort food that reminds them of home, that's stupid.
Because it helps with morale.
>why don't we give our soldiers rotting green meat
What are Mobile Kitchen Trailers. Mermites, cooks, and DFACs ?
Bad.
UPU SUCKS IT FRICKING SUCKS >>>>:(
Because field rations are extremely goddamn useful you moronic spaztic homosexual dipshit. China relying near universally on field kitchens is a horrible drawback which really illustrates how far behind they are. Look at how Russia did in Afghanistan and what an absolute nightmare their food logistics were, that shit crippled them.
A limitation if that's the only way you can feed soldiers in the field.
So we have MREs, MKTs, cooks, full commercial kitchens, and insulated containers to feed soldiers out in the field. In the usa. Oh and gut trucks.
What else do want? Uber Eats, door dash, pizza hut?
No, I would say that the US Armed Forces is an excellent example of food logistics, balancing economy, shelf life, portability, and keeping up morale. People on base and vessels use kitchens and messes, which is perfectly fine, and people who go out on patrol and missions get portable food which is good.
The fact that OP uses the PLA as an example of what the US should aim for is complete insanity, given that their field rations are completely pitiful.
>Why the frick did the USA spent so much money
Because they have a money factory.
>spent
>and it fine
ESL detected, Chang. Now eat your moldy pork chow mein fermented in boys pee and be grateful you got anything.
The research wasn't just specifically about the pizza (although it had been in strong demand for 30+ years). The research was valuable because if you can make something like a pizza into a shelf stable long life product that is still palatable after several years then it opens up all sorts of avenues for making other new tyes of MRE that weren't possible before.
People love variety in their food and it's been proven time and time again that food can be one of the biggest boosters or breakers of morale, depending on variety and quality.
The majority of chang troops suffer from Little Emperor syndrome. How well do you think their war machine will operate when they're feeding the troops rotten MREs?
>The majority of chang troops suffer from Little Emperor syndrome
Do you have a source that isn't media speculation, or are you talking out of your ass?
Like Russia, the PRC have a large number of poor innawoods hicks to recruit from and those guys can be tough
>Chinese_soldiers_crying_on_a_bus.jpg
ass it is then
>woods
>in china
I thought china was just a huge industrial sprawl like the kinda shit you see in the movie dredd but with more smog and factories?
obviously the whole country isn't Mega City One, or I'd REALLY be worried about them out-producing the world. they have a few cities which are designated industrial hubs and therefore dirty as hell; outside these areas it looks like some Afghan-tier shithole
Because Pizza is good, and eating rotten pork is a good way to have a nice day accidentally.
Comparing anything, even the moldiest maggot-infested shit, in the US military to the finest of the PLA's cutting-edge will still result in the US being objectively better.
The PLA is the epitome of everything wrong with China.
Cheap and poorly made equipment is valued over what is actually fricking effective.
Human lives are treated as infinitely disposable, when it takes 16 years at the lowest to create a person that can fight in combat.
Competence and intelligence are consistently passed up or punished in favor of blind loyalty or whoever has a dad with ties to the CCP.
Even China knows they can't win a fricking war, despite how fricking asinine their diplomatic strategy is.
For all their talk of invading Taiwan, fact is China can't do jack shit while the US is still a threat.
China only has one ally: Russia. And Russia, is fricking incompetent and far weaker than what all the damn memes say.
The USA, meanwhile, is allies with at least 75% of the countries that actually fricking matter.
It would be WW2 all over again, with China taking the place of the Nazi's as the lone nation with useless allies fighting the entire world.
No matter how powerful one nation is, picking a fight with the world is a bad fricking idea.
If we're making comparisons to the Axis powers then China is most comparable to Italy.
China is far more likely to drag their feet to declare war should a WW3 scenario happen, while Russia is already annexing smaller countries in our present day thus making Russia most comparable to Nazi Germany.
When China finally does declare war they'll inevitably embarass themselves and subsequently enter some kind of civil war - which would be between a Xi Jinping faction and a Jiang Zemin faction - and then exit the global conflict entirely, or flip sides.
in all fairness judea picked a fight with germany first, they just cried out as they struck germany and all the good moral WASP nations pitched in to help poor moishe.
yeah or maybe they read the fricking main kampf and saw what was coming?
read that book again today. same people, same organizations, same problems. nothing has changed. mustache man was right
Is that why Hitler declared war on all of the countries himself? Oh let me guess, the israelites made him do it in a 71d chess move with their space magic
>remilitarize Rhineland
>alright cool, the treaty of versailles was pretty harsh anyway
>annex Austria
>okay... as long as that's the last thing you annex
>annex Czechoslovakia (immediately after promising not to)
>okay, stop, if you annex another country we're going to war
>annex Poland
>WTF WHY ARE THEY DECLARING WAR ON ME
>why not just give our soldiers food like the PLA?
chinese have the benefit of using field kitchens to serve personnel in the field like the wehrmacht did in WW2 because they are mostly geared for combat close to the mainland with short supply lines or for short but vigorous campaigns off coastal islands (or taiwan)
so they have no real battle-need for an MRE, the ones you see that nearly killed steve are because they are just for show
they are just there because a modern army is expected to have MREs
the US experience across the 20th century was different, largely fighting overseas wars
so their men would often get worn down with monotony from eating nothing but C rations for weeks
so MREs have to be at least halfway edible if you are going to fight protracted campaigns with no easy access to field kitchens or are fighting arty-spamming enemies who will light up your field kitchens if they so much as make an egg fried rice
>chinese have the benefit of using field kitchens to serve personnel in the field like the wehrmacht did in WW2 because they are mostly geared for combat close to the mainland with short supply lines or for short but vigorous campaigns off coastal islands (or taiwan)
>so they have no real battle-need for an MRE, the ones you see that nearly killed steve are because they are just for show
>they are just there because a modern army is expected to have MREs
So in other words, every single PLA unit has a glaring weakness ripe for attack in the event of a modern war against the US, I mean seriously how long do you think these field kitchens right up at the front will last if the enemy knows intrinsically that destroying them = starving the opps
Real food is too great of a risk for the US. Grunt I know came back from his first go around with a massive, just hideous scar up his arm. I assumed the worst, knife-fight with a sand-Black person, lightning strike, shrapnel, clearly something serious had made this massive, disgusting 15+ inch scar.
So apparently he ended up at a base somewhere working in the kitchen, and one night he tossed a bag of trash with some kind of seafood/shellfish or something I don't know, bag tore and a piece of rotting bone/fish gave him a teeny scratch up the length of his arm. So he did absolutely nothing about it for several days, it got horrifically infected, and now he looks like someone tried to fricking debone his arm from wrist to bicep.
Hey, probably landed him a few cozy weeks in sick bay. Totally worth it.
I still want to understand the shellfish of it all. Where the frick were the crab legs? I never got any fricking crab legs. Chipped oyster shell? Whatever part of a lobster is sharp? I just don't know.
Them crab legs were never meant for the enlisted brutes. Only COs are able appreciate such delicacy.
With young recruits suffering the horrific disfigurement that comes from crab handling, apparently.
Probably the Navy, my friend was on a CVN and they had lobster or crab legs and steak on special occasions
Frickin' Navy
>Accurate.
Remember grunts, go to Air-force bases for chow. Always better.
Someone needs to add a million eggs to the Marine one
I had them at certain points in the army, all depended on where you got deployed too. In Kunduz in Afghanistan certain meals close to resupply time were pretty obviously just a bunch of specific MREs dumped in a pot, Camp Taji in Iraq on the other hand had a fricking insanely good defac. The fun part was when you went to posts run by allied militaries, like a Norwegian camp I got posted too that had fish all the time and reindeer occasionally
>like a Norwegian camp I got posted too that had fish all the time and reindeer occasionally
bullshit, we never had fish, even in Norway where the supply is local and fresh. too many people can't stand it. never had reindeer either although I do like it, too expensive. no way they flew stuff like that all the fricking way to afghanistan
This is "America made a thousand dollar space pen, Russia just used a pencil" tier. The benefits may not be immediately obvious, but the yanks make their stuff the way they do for a reason.
Tiny bits of graphite just floating around a spacecraft filled with electronics dedicated to making you not dead during the journey. Seems fine.
They were grease and paper pencils, not graphite and wood pencils.
Also the Sovs switched to pens too.
Didn't the burgers use crayons in pen form for a while also?
both the US and soviets used plain old wooden pencils in the very first missions, because a mission wouldnt last long enough for sharpening the pencil to be an issue
later on, the americans switched to mechanical pencils while the soviets switched to a special type of dermatagraph to write on plastic tablets
mechanical pencils didnt need sharpening and dermatagraphs use coiled-wood wrapping so can simply be peeled off in a single stroke
and finally as stated above, both the US and the soviets use the space pen now
>Also the Sovs switched to pens too.
They didn't just switch to pens, they switched to the same pen that NASA was using. Some astronauts showed some cosmonauts the pen, the Russians immediately bought 100 of them with a few thousand refills.
That Jap MRE Steve reviewed was rice-heavy, but it looked top-notch. I'd rather have that than something that nearly killed him.
Did you see the North Korean ones?
I don't know if he was trolling us or what.
They were in crusty boxes tied with string and misery but had some fantastic looking fried chicken and shrimp in the packets.
Seems like he said it was some of the best fried chicken he ever had. Looked like it just came out of a Churches.
Check the date on that vid bro
Someone post the cargo plane unloading the mobile Burger King.
I fricking love this picture, to me this says "We're not surviving out here, we're living."
Russian soldiers are eating expired MREs and stealing eggs literally within walking distance of their own border. Meanwhile the US csn make a tactical Burger King insertion anywhere in the world.
Wasn't there some Japanese admiral in WW2 who said something to the effect of
>I knew we'd already lost once I learned the Americans had ice cream ships
You're thinking of the German who was shocked to find out all Americans got a standard chocolate ration. Japanese POWs were stunned to discover that the US had ice cream ships, though.
There's also the story of how Boris Jeltsin walked into a random grocery store in Texas and spent the next few days trying to figure out how the CIA figured out he planned to do that, because his communism addled brain literally could not conceive of the fact that the sheer amount of plenty on display in any random US grocery store was anything but a complete setup. After going to a few more, he finally reached the conclusion that it wasn't a setup, it was all real, and that the Soviet Union had lost the Cold War decades ago, because of the sheer raw GDP difference.
no it was the King of Siam
King of logistics.
>Russians starving six miles from their motherland
>Chinksects eating MREs that expired before they were shipped
>Americans dropping tactical burger joints to feed their troops on the other side of the globe
U S A
U S A
U S A
American excellence.
I think that's because Yeltsin was a hardcore ideologue who sincerely believed in Communism, which is why that shattered his world view.
why dont they just give them onions? it would probably be cheaper to mass produce and they wouldnt have to waste money making a bunch of different mre products
pic related onions, not actual onions
Because moral would plummet harder than the twin towers
Because they'd shoot their COs.
why not make a small microwave that can also be used for electronic warfare ?
modular AESA panels and easy to use software for combined platoon level comms, radar, and microwave when?
basically Starlink's dish with a firmware upgrade
Frick you, the pizza is the best one along with an apple cinnamon or cran raspberry energy bar. You can keep your moldy ass green pork.
Would it work if you maxx with pemmican, dry meats, dry fish/squid, hard cheeses, fermented vegs (sauerkraut), canned sardines, dried fruits? Those are the OG long foods and very nutrient dense. Probably won't be commonly liked though because it's so different to normie food habits.
>OG long foods and very nutrient dense
>Boring ancient europoor diet
It's almost like there's some sort of connection there.
Have a bit more respect for your impoverished ancestors.
I'm sold on the dry squid and most of the other shit, but the canned deenz can get the frick out.
I ate the pizza MRE recently and it was fricking awful lol
Blueberry cobbler is good tho
Damn bro how about we just say frick you to any service person's morale.. you know, the c**ts we wanna keep as long as possible.. service retention attrition would go through the roof if we didn't provide food even remotely similar to what they can get at home
I always liked the vegetable crackers, plz no bully
Why don't they just eat the bugs instead of getting 30s of normalcy while eating the pizza simulacrum?
I like the MRE pizza, its like a lunchable and combos mixed together. I heat them up and that makes it a little better
God damn you might be on to something here. We could have spent so much developing the MRE Pizza that we won't be able to afford that 12th Aircraft Carrier oh my god what will we do?
>Why don't we give the guys fighting for their fricking lives the shittiest fricking MealBlocks™ that we possibly can?
>Why are we wasting money on food that is comparatively very good, morale boosting, and flavorful?
>Why haven't I figured out a lesson that hte Romans learned over a thousand years ago?
Gee billy I dunno maybe you should have a nice day and find out
Third world MREs are literally a trip to the grocery store worth of cans and some shit they literally cooked in a giant vat
>literally a trip to the grocery store worth of cans and some shit they literally cooked in a giant vat
that literally describes most NATO rations literally used by literal militaries, you literal moron
yo that literally literally'd the literal literallies literally
That's still better than Chinese field rations.
Having much of field rations be made up of commercial foodstuffs procured at a low bulk cost is an economical way to have field rations.
Not perfect, stuff like tinned foods tend to have excessive bulk and weight compared to a more professional modern MRE like what they give out in the US Army, so having a lot of that can be mildly obnoxious, but it's at least viable food. Some countries compromise and have a couple of tinned things like that in a daily ration to fill things out but then still have a meal you can prepare with some water and a heater (flameless or not).
The pizza extends life, the pizza expands waistlines, the pizza is vital to modern war.
Probably just to see if they could. I imagine that whatever sorcery they pulled to make pizza shelf stable is translatable to other long term food storage.
Because it's not like Elios frozen pizza is so amazing that troops couldn't just wait till they get back to base to have some.
I remember there was an article about it when it came out, iirc it said that they already tried to make MRE pizza in the 80s and the biggest problem was keeping the tomato sauce from turning brown over time
I got some MRE food items for backpacking and do not like any of them.
pizza - sucked
bbq wrap - sucked but the most tolerable
mexican taco wrap - horrible
Cinnamon bun - just get poptarts
Best US military one is the chili.
It still tastes a billion times better than the old Tuna Casserole MRE.
I liked those but worth remembering is that ALL G.I.s do is complain. I've done base housing inspections and MREs would be an upgrade over some of the horrors they eat on their own.
Food taste really is not critical unless you're weak or outright mentally ill. Nutrients etc matter in real life so Natick etc design MREs accordingly.
You ain't wrong on either point.I remember doing morale and wellness inspections on base housing for my Marines when I was an O-2 and the absolute disgusting state of those dependapotami depots made me miss finding fi-fi's in the barracks
>Food taste really is not critical unless you're weak or outright mentally ill.
Food taste is an incredibly easy way to keep morale up. Eating and drinking, especially collectively, are fundamental to the human social experience.
>eat MRE
>shit a football
>rip my ass open
Take Metamucil packets with you in the field.
>there are countries so poorstupid and pooor pee skinned that cant make shelf stable pizza
get fricked smelly foreign people
pic unrelated
Speaking of MREs, what's the actually good shit you'd want to have handy? As in, good shelf life, tastes good, and nutritious. Preferably in both meat and non-meat/vegetarian options.
bong ORP sounds comfy
>all day breakfast
>curry and rice
>pasta bolognese
>chocolate pudding
>biccies
>fruit bar
>nuts
>peanut butter, jam, more biccies
>fruit drink, choccy drink, tea, coffee
all it's really missing is some actual whole fruit, instead of dried
Again, as with the space pen, the US didn't pay for this it was the company that sells it to them.
MRE pizza was developed by Natick Army labs
I didn't want to believe it QQ
even in basic when you know you'll probaly get something decent at least one time a week food fricking sucks. Getting a pizza MRE is a godsend its not pizza, but its close enough if you close your eyes
>so much money on MRE pizza
>its the same budget shit that has been served in school cafeterias for 30+ years
Yeah, I don't think Uncle Sam is breaking the bank on this pie...
I don't think you understand the significance of MRE's and food preservation. They're not there to be some 5 star meal. The very fact that they are able to taste like lunchables is beyond amazing already. I'd like you to point out a lunchable or something from a school cafeteria that can be stored for 5 years and still be perfectly edible for that entire time. And likely will STILL be edible for at least a decade past that.
I haven't gone as far back as Steve1989, but I've been able to eat some food components from the Korean war, Vietnam war & Gulf War that were perfectly fine. Food preservation is one of the most underrated techniques for supplying militaries. It's something that's been done for millennia to allow armies to be able to march further and further.
Food science in general is one of those sciences like medicine where the past 100 years of advances are fricking mindblowing. Have an arm chopped off today, and there's very good chances they can reattach it so it can heal, if you have access to some basic 1st world medical care, but back in 1922, that shit was a non-starter, they could clean and seal the wound for you and that was that.
MRE's is another of those technologies, a meal that tastes alright and which has the incredible shelf life that it does, or things like a small bag of dried and powdered vegetables turning into a whole pot of soup with some water and heat, or frozen lump heating up in a microwave into something that's actually pretty edible (be that your own homecooked leftover meal or a storebought ready made one), and this soup or other meal actually tastes pretty nice.
A lot of this technology isn't even very new, it goes back a long time. It's like how the best rifles and pistols aren't actually very new, at most they're improved/"improved" takes on something that's 30, 40, 50, even 60 years old or more.
lunchables probably wouldn't survive being airdropped either
Morale. Simple as that. Pizza is something you get at home, it a reminder of where you are from and, possibly to the more motivated, why you are here. Also, it breaks up the monotony of eating the same shit all the time, which leave you bored and less motivated.
The morale factor of the food can't be understated, which is why any decent field ration package usually comes with some sort of snack and dessert item.
the snacks are also important ways to cram calories in
that's what I discovered when I tried to make a healthier, reduced-sugar version of an MRE menu. take out all the choccy bars and suddenly it looks quite a bit leaner
Well if you're basically hiking all day you're actually putting those calories to use, so it makes sense to have them just as boosters.
Exactly, the Romans had a basic ration, but it was augmented by camp followers. Sure they'd pay for it, but damn they'd but it. But let's go with a more recent idea, I'm going to bastardize it, but it proves a point. What would you rather have, cooked food or canned? Cooked, failing that you'll have canned.
That was part of the logistical trains throughout modern wars, at least if you had a country that could do it. Hot, reasonably fresh food is preferable then something uncooked from the can.
The MRE may not be truly revolutionary, since soldiers can and will heat their food from whatever means, but flameless heater is a god-send.
Variety of food, which is warm and comforting is massively important, which many forget about.
>flameless heater is a god-send
Eh, it's only true advantage is not having to lug those blue gas cans around, otherwise one of those mega-portable mini camp stoves are more efficient
>the Romans had a basic ration, but it was augmented by camp followers
Only in garrison towns. Typically they were expected to cook it themselves. Mention is made of one of the emperors, I forget whom, cooking his own meals when in the field "like a common legionary"
It smell like /misc/ in this b***h
>muh /misc/ boogyman
have a nice day.
The PLA doesn't have the best MRE either. Maybe they've gotten better in recent years, idk.
comes with the blueberry cobler which is ace
I dont know, why did the PLA break down into tears over being sent to fight poos in a border dispute while the us military spent 20 years getting mutilated fighting mudslimes in the desert and still had to be physically restrained to keep from continuing on indefinitely
We are advanced enough that we have the time, energy and money to make MRE food that passes for our favorite comfort foods.
Plus this shit is a morale boost.
Palestinian Liberation Army?
Because pizza is a trivial matter when you can also make an MRE Burger King