Why the frick are Switchblade drones $58,000 each when the AFU builds expedient drones which have longer ranger, higher flight ceilings, higher speed a...

Why the frick are Switchblade drones $58,000 each when the AFU builds expedient drones which have longer ranger, higher flight ceilings, higher speed and larger bomb payloads for "$200 to $700"?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because its an experimental design. I dont even think its being used anymore

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >first image on google
    >one (1) rhetorical question
    Yeah I'm thinkin it's a yeah

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're shit, the US gave basically their entire stock of Switchblade 300's to ukraine and said they wouldn't be ordering more based on the performance observed.

    They do appear to be buying Switchblade 600s though which use a modified Javelin ATGM warhead.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the purpose of switch blade is for high value targets or to be used when you're being ambushed. Its a fine drone, but the Ukrainians don't prefer it because of its payload. 300 was never meant to be for large crowds and 600 is for vehicles, which can be used against crowds if needed to.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Its a fine drone
        then why isn't the US Army buying more?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is buying more. The US military is spending 120 million for fiscal 2025 in the new start LASSO program for which Aerovironment is currently the sole supplier.
          The first tranche of kit includes about 500 switchblades plus 50 associated recon drones and controllers.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Those are Switchblade 600's, not 300's.
            Which I already said.

            Because they're shit, the US gave basically their entire stock of Switchblade 300's to ukraine and said they wouldn't be ordering more based on the performance observed.

            They do appear to be buying Switchblade 600s though which use a modified Javelin ATGM warhead.

            >They do appear to be buying Switchblade 600s though

            Like I said, if the Switchblade 300 is so good, why isn't the US army replacing them?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.avinc.com/resources/press-releases/view/aerovironment-awarded-64.6-million-contract-by-u.s-army-for-switchblade-300-loitering-missile-systems

              >ARLINGTON, Va., April 26, 2023 – AeroVironment, Inc. (NASDAQ: AVAV) received additional funding of $64,565,126 on March 24 from the U.S. Army Tactical Aviation and Ground Munitions (TAGM) project office for the procurement of Switchblade® 300 loitering missile systems.
              >the systems are scheduled to be delivered by July 2024.

              ?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn. Reality btfos the ignorant once again.
                FPV anons, what's your excuse for why the US Army is buying Switchblade 300s since you trust their judgement so much? Do they know something about its performance you don't?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn. Reality btfos the ignorant once again.
                FPV anons, what's your excuse for why the US Army is buying Switchblade 300s since you trust their judgement so much? Do they know something about its performance you don't?

                https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/07/the-u-s-army-wont-buy-anymore-switchblade-300-kamikaze-drones/

                That was FY23, there was no funding in FY24 and there is no planned funding for FY25.

                They're closing out the program and aren't buying more, like I fricking said, repeatedly now.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >LMAMS
                Anon it's called LASSO now.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, that's Switchblade 600, as we ALREADY FRICKING DISCUSSED

                Those are Switchblade 600's, not 300's.
                Which I already said. [...]
                >They do appear to be buying Switchblade 600s though

                Like I said, if the Switchblade 300 is so good, why isn't the US army replacing them?

                jesus, you're a moron

                https://i.imgur.com/suz9r01.png

                You lost the argument and thinking accusing me of being brown somehow means you're right.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                >why isn't the US army replacing them
                It's preparing for a big peer war. Switchblade 600 is the same as a 300, just with a Javelin warhead and more batteries for killing Chinese amphibious IFVs instead of Taliban PKM crews.

                and stop malding. Did a switchblade kill your babushka?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not malding, i'm a US citizen wondering why you dumb c**ts are so butthurt you can't admit Switchblade 300 is dogshit price/performance, and as such, it has been dropped faster than a $0.25 prostitute.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It performed very well in GWOT as it was designed to (as you'd know if you'd been there) and now the military is expanding its arsenal to meet the Chinese threat. Your Appalachian larper/highschool dropout complex is out of control.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lol no it's because they realize a $5000 FPV with an RPG strapped to it is 99% as effective, if not more so, at a fraction of the price.

                Even the US army can't defend that kind of waste to congress.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's 10-20% as effective according to Ukrainians.
                Think about it this way: if your gun fails to fire 80% of the time, who but a desperate poorgay would buy it when they can get a weapon which works reliably? Is that your complex? You're a poorgay projecting your justifications on the rest of the world?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's 10-20% as effective according to Ukrainians
                Can I see when they said this

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes:

                It's the Apple Store concept. Encrypted. Frequency hopping. Lock-on. Shared controls with an ecosystem of supporting radios and robots. Tested to work in arctic snow and desert heat 100% of the time. Multiple cameras. Thermal camera for night. Laser fuze for jamproofed airbursts. ESAD so soldiers don't blow themselves up when they drop it on their foot.

                Ukrainian style FPVs, according to Ukrainians, hit their targets 10% of the time on a bad day and 20% on a good one. In the first days there were also many casualties from careless launches with the bent-hangar contact fuzes. Switchblades, again according to Ukrainians, kill their targets over 90% of the time.

                That's the difference between MIC tech and home made tech.

                Frick off warriortard.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wait your citation for that "Ukraine says 10 to 20%" thing is your own previous post in this thread?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He already decided anyone who replies to him is warriortard, which means he conceded the argument.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >anyone who ID's me trolling has consneeded
                You've overused this tactic warriortard.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's 10-20% as effective according to Ukrainians
                in extremely heavy EW areas

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So, the battlefield?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i'm a US citizen
                >you dumb c**ts
                kys

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dual US/UK citizen you frickin c**t.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's warriorgay the farter
                This explains a lot.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nah he's a asiatic

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >fat knuckles
                oh noooooooooooooooooo

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >why isn't the US army replacing them
              It's preparing for a big peer war. Switchblade 600 is the same as a 300, just with a Javelin warhead and more batteries for killing Chinese amphibious IFVs instead of Taliban PKM crews.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We are buying more, moron. I think you're mistaking them not buying stocks for the UA military rather than buying stocks for domestic uses.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The previous thread asking just this, is still in the catalog.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's the Apple Store concept. Encrypted. Frequency hopping. Lock-on. Shared controls with an ecosystem of supporting radios and robots. Tested to work in arctic snow and desert heat 100% of the time. Multiple cameras. Thermal camera for night. Laser fuze for jamproofed airbursts. ESAD so soldiers don't blow themselves up when they drop it on their foot.

    Ukrainian style FPVs, according to Ukrainians, hit their targets 10% of the time on a bad day and 20% on a good one. In the first days there were also many casualties from careless launches with the bent-hangar contact fuzes. Switchblades, again according to Ukrainians, kill their targets over 90% of the time.

    That's the difference between MIC tech and home made tech.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >In the first days there were also many casualties from careless launches with the bent-hangar contact fuzes
      very not disingenuous to compare switchblade to first fpv drones and not current ones with thermal cameras, airburst detonation, AI tracking, prebuild ammo and for the cost of 1000$ instead of 58000$

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Switchblade is 10-15 years older than first fpv drones. I think you're the one being disingenuous.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Switchblade is 10-15 years older than first fpv drones
          and that justifies that price in 2024?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you put all that shit in an fpv drone its going to cost $50-60k just like the switchblade
        Remember that shaheds were recently revealed to be $200k a pop, most of the price data you see is bullshit
        Cheap drones are cheap because the lack capability, put the capability back in and they stop being cheap

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Cheap drones are cheap because the lack capability
          Price = Cost to make it real / number
          "make it real" implies far more than "material cost", "capability" is too fuzzy to do comparisons

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is like the third time I’ve seen this thread today.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Encrypted frequency hopping datalinks threaten the pro-brownoid/larper-friendly aesthetic which has been attached to craft built FPVs.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the government spends more than what I make in a year on ONE shitty drone to MAYBE kill a Russian or 2. we're 31 trillion dollars in debt and only a small fraction of our entire budget is on defense. why wouldn't we pay 100x as much for a shittier product?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >31 trillion in debt
      Doesn't mean what you think it means
      >t.economist

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Doesn't mean what you think it means
        what, the national debt? it's a debt we're obligated to pay back, the only reason nobody calls us on it is because we're the world's largest military power and they still value our dollar more than we do. wow anon you're so smart it didn't realize that it didn't mean what I thought it meant and it actually means what you think it means and not me. what does it mean?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    shill
    https://desuarchive.org/k/search/text/Switchblade/type/op/

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The reason is because the MIC bends the American taxpayer over and fricks you in the ass with no lube at every opportunity

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why the frick are Switchblade drones $58,000 each
    GDPmaxxxing

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Thats not evidence. Most of those arms trade corruption is usually small arms. As much as people like to believe, big western weapons are hard to sell/distribute without western oversight.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    China has been copying niches since 1950s (and even before that), it doesn't implies that they actually REed something.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We’ve had like 20 switchblade threads in the past 2 days what the frick is going on?

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    They received shaheds too? chinks are opportunistic. nothing new under the sun.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Anon, they literally sent people there to investigate. There hasn't been much to find because in ukraine, its really difficult to move western weapons around unless they are small arms. Because while you say that, the Ukrainians are also actively trying to get more aid and by doing so they are mitigating any potential of those aid being misuse for nefarious purposes.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >muh ukraine corruption
    Corruption in Ukraine's military has significantly dropped. There may be a few issues, but the military is one of the few things they reformed after kicking out the pro Russian puppet. As much as people love to prance around Ukrainian corruption, the Ukrainians themselves has been tackling this issue since 2014.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because MIC.
    You can witness in real life time economic effeciency or the state enforced monopoly and free market. Drone were developed and produced as to toys so they didn't have all red tape an monilpolosarion weapons manufacturing has.
    Glaring example how communism fails (in communism all goods have similar to Switchblade markup because of the inefficiency od the central planned economy).

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wtf is AFU?

    and no shit switchblades are expensive they use almost all custom radios and electronics and undergo milspec testing for certificates.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it was designed for being bought by the US army to kill terrorists in the ME and not for a real war.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not for real war
      Real war has nations targeting VIPs. Its meant to be a weapon that can be utilized against ambushes and also target high value targets.

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