Cons:
-Limited aftermarket (but it's improving slowly, ily Cajun)
-Later models suffer from poor QC
-If you're a sissy you'll complain about the weight but for me it's perfectly fine (I am modestly fit)
-long DA trigger pull, not horrible but if you're used to shorter LOPs then it's worth mentioning
Pros:
-Extremely reliable, built like a tank by nature.
-low recoil thanks to full steel frame
-many different calibers to pick most commonly in 9mm but others are .40SW, .45ACP, and .41AE (rare)
-very accurate, low bore axis and a polygonal rifled barrel Yada Yada
-takes CZ mags
-Makes for a great hammer
Only reason PrepHole bashes on them is solely political reasons. I'd avoid the polymer versions tho, there's better options.
Based garden gnome pew enjoyer, I too use the sling of David with Solomons problem solver.
Oh another big con that's super fucking retarded is finding information on which specific parts on the Jericho are compatible with Tanfoglio/CZ parts. For whatever reason Jericho owners just do not accurately state WHAT works with what not even the "gurus" can articulate themselves clearly.
It took forever to find out slide release levers out of EAA Witnesses work in small frame jerichos for the off chance I can get an extended lever.
Did someone say IWI
PrepHole only seethes over these garden gnome guns because they did not make money on PrepHole like many of us did to afford a rifle manufactured by our greatest ally
I have one and around 2000 rounds through it
SUPER accurate, low recoiling
but in terms of manual of arms, the slide is a bitch because how narrow and smol it be.
put a hogue grip on it, points well and feels great in the hands. definitely a shooter. but remedying IAs/stoppages in the shit or adverse conditions like if it was wet or cold might be kinda dubious, at least slightly more so than something else with a more full size slide
No, I suggest a Beretta 92X Centurion like I did if you want DA/SA. For striker-fired, I suggest checking out Smith&Wesson M&P or perhaps Shadow Systems.
Cons:
-Its a cringe gun that reddit weebs like because cowboy bebop spun it around his finger for a famous scene
-Contrary to previous claims it is actually not very reliable, has spotty QC, and needs replacement parts immediately out of the box since it is based off a CZ
-also based off a CZ means the slide is fucking tiny, you only get like 10% surface area on the slide to actually grip the gun
-Its particularly heavy, more than most guns of the same type and size
-the controls and ergonomics are terrible. Switches are too smooth, have bad detents, are placed awkwardly (some have safeties on the already impossibly small slide), trigger reach is strange and the trigger pull is terrible.
Pros:
lmao no
also
If you buy the smaller barrel version thinking its more compact you'll notice the sights are just entirely off and you have to file them down otherwise you'll be hitting the kneecaps of your targets at 20 yards.
>If you buy the smaller barrel version thinking its more compact you'll notice the sights are just entirely off and you have to file them down otherwise you'll be hitting the kneecaps of your targets at 20 yards.
>mfw after I read this having this problem
A-a-a-at least I got the bebop gun 🙁
>If you buy the smaller barrel version thinking its more compact you'll notice the sights are just entirely off and you have to file them down otherwise you'll be hitting the kneecaps of your targets at 20 yards.
>mfw after I read this having this problem
A-a-a-at least I got the bebop gun 🙁
gotta be fucking kidding me. I really thought shooting my friend's poly framed 941, we just weren't used to the trigger. it's only the 4" not even the smallest one. is this really a fucking thing? we both had low groups, both novices so I just chalked it up to user error.
its a problem with the Baby Eagles and Jerichos. I've experienced it myself when i borrowed my friend's baby eagle, he also thought it was just shooting wrong and eventually traded it, then a professional shill on youtube also had a problem. (honest outlaw's video on the baby eagle)
Counting those three, and your two, and that other anon in this thread, thats enough to raise an eyebrow.
The fact that it's not common knowledge basically proves that people dont buy these guns to actually use, they buy them to have LE EPIC SPACE COWBOY stashed away in their gun drawer.
Yes, and the problem is still present on the Jericho II. I know because I owned one and sold it a while back because aftermarket was almost non-existent until recently. This is because According to the manual the factory sights are zeroed to 25 meters (yes meters) so ~80 ft. You are going to have a lot of hold over at shorter distances and will have to aim at the very center of the dots instead of the tip like other firearms.
>If you buy the smaller barrel version thinking its more compact you'll notice the sights are just entirely off and you have to file them down otherwise you'll be hitting the kneecaps of your targets at 20 yards.
>mfw after I read this having this problem
A-a-a-at least I got the bebop gun 🙁
Its because the factory sights on post-2007 models are too low, if you replace them with night sights the grouping corrects itself bc theyre taller sights. I had this issue with my baby eagle 3 but after new sights it fixed the issue. I'm currently waiting on sights for my Baby eagle 1 compact to confirm if this is the case for older models as well.
As for the slide, probably just training scars. I find the easiest way to operate the action is a slingshot-like pull picrel
These are great pistols, but admittingly they do have weird quirks to iron out.
annoying to look through 10 gorillion ads to find an original norailz one
Then when you see one it's some fuckwit with his beat to shit Israeli police trade in advertising it like it single-handedly ended Palestine and Vicious
A Cz 75 or Beretta 92 would be better for parts availability but a 941 is solid. If you like it more than the Cz or Beretta I'd go for it.
>funding israel any more than you are required to
uuh honestly based. Why do you think I own a Tavor and Jericho.
Cons:
-Limited aftermarket (but it's improving slowly, ily Cajun)
-Later models suffer from poor QC
-If you're a sissy you'll complain about the weight but for me it's perfectly fine (I am modestly fit)
-long DA trigger pull, not horrible but if you're used to shorter LOPs then it's worth mentioning
Pros:
-Extremely reliable, built like a tank by nature.
-low recoil thanks to full steel frame
-many different calibers to pick most commonly in 9mm but others are .40SW, .45ACP, and .41AE (rare)
-very accurate, low bore axis and a polygonal rifled barrel Yada Yada
-takes CZ mags
-Makes for a great hammer
Only reason PrepHole bashes on them is solely political reasons. I'd avoid the polymer versions tho, there's better options.
Based garden gnome pew enjoyer, I too use the sling of David with Solomons problem solver.
Oh another big con that's super fucking retarded is finding information on which specific parts on the Jericho are compatible with Tanfoglio/CZ parts. For whatever reason Jericho owners just do not accurately state WHAT works with what not even the "gurus" can articulate themselves clearly.
It took forever to find out slide release levers out of EAA Witnesses work in small frame jerichos for the off chance I can get an extended lever.
Did someone say IWI
PrepHole only seethes over these garden gnome guns because they did not make money on PrepHole like many of us did to afford a rifle manufactured by our greatest ally
PrepHole is full of retards lying about how much money they make while peddling crypto bullshit and shit coins. Fuck off.
I own a garden gnome pistol so I can blend in with them and maybe strike before we are all destroyed.
>shouldn't
unless you need to go into debt for it do whatever the fuck you want.
I have one and around 2000 rounds through it
SUPER accurate, low recoiling
but in terms of manual of arms, the slide is a bitch because how narrow and smol it be.
put a hogue grip on it, points well and feels great in the hands. definitely a shooter. but remedying IAs/stoppages in the shit or adverse conditions like if it was wet or cold might be kinda dubious, at least slightly more so than something else with a more full size slide
I’ll look at those Hough grips. Thanks anon
because the baby eagle is better
No, I suggest a Beretta 92X Centurion like I did if you want DA/SA. For striker-fired, I suggest checking out Smith&Wesson M&P or perhaps Shadow Systems.
Cons:
-Its a cringe gun that reddit weebs like because cowboy bebop spun it around his finger for a famous scene
-Contrary to previous claims it is actually not very reliable, has spotty QC, and needs replacement parts immediately out of the box since it is based off a CZ
-also based off a CZ means the slide is fucking tiny, you only get like 10% surface area on the slide to actually grip the gun
-Its particularly heavy, more than most guns of the same type and size
-the controls and ergonomics are terrible. Switches are too smooth, have bad detents, are placed awkwardly (some have safeties on the already impossibly small slide), trigger reach is strange and the trigger pull is terrible.
Pros:
lmao no
also
If you buy the smaller barrel version thinking its more compact you'll notice the sights are just entirely off and you have to file them down otherwise you'll be hitting the kneecaps of your targets at 20 yards.
>If you buy the smaller barrel version thinking its more compact you'll notice the sights are just entirely off and you have to file them down otherwise you'll be hitting the kneecaps of your targets at 20 yards.
>mfw after I read this having this problem
A-a-a-at least I got the bebop gun 🙁
Has the little bit of hair just below her right hand always been missed on this edit?
gotta be fucking kidding me. I really thought shooting my friend's poly framed 941, we just weren't used to the trigger. it's only the 4" not even the smallest one. is this really a fucking thing? we both had low groups, both novices so I just chalked it up to user error.
its a problem with the Baby Eagles and Jerichos. I've experienced it myself when i borrowed my friend's baby eagle, he also thought it was just shooting wrong and eventually traded it, then a professional shill on youtube also had a problem. (honest outlaw's video on the baby eagle)
Counting those three, and your two, and that other anon in this thread, thats enough to raise an eyebrow.
The fact that it's not common knowledge basically proves that people dont buy these guns to actually use, they buy them to have LE EPIC SPACE COWBOY stashed away in their gun drawer.
Yes, and the problem is still present on the Jericho II. I know because I owned one and sold it a while back because aftermarket was almost non-existent until recently. This is because According to the manual the factory sights are zeroed to 25 meters (yes meters) so ~80 ft. You are going to have a lot of hold over at shorter distances and will have to aim at the very center of the dots instead of the tip like other firearms.
Its because the factory sights on post-2007 models are too low, if you replace them with night sights the grouping corrects itself bc theyre taller sights. I had this issue with my baby eagle 3 but after new sights it fixed the issue. I'm currently waiting on sights for my Baby eagle 1 compact to confirm if this is the case for older models as well.
As for the slide, probably just training scars. I find the easiest way to operate the action is a slingshot-like pull picrel
These are great pistols, but admittingly they do have weird quirks to iron out.
Only if it’s railless
They're made in Vietnam now at the Z111 factory.
Because you're not gonna carry that weight and no one will see you, space cowboy
I got a parts kit without the (polymer) frame. Anybody know where I could grab one?
annoying to look through 10 gorillion ads to find an original norailz one
Then when you see one it's some fuckwit with his beat to shit Israeli police trade in advertising it like it single-handedly ended Palestine and Vicious
bc guns are for insecure gays and criminals
satan would say that
Buy an ad moishe. It's getting so tiresome.
Ads are expensive, goyim