Why no US ground invasion in Yemen?

Much smaller than AFG
Much less disseminated population so easier to control in theory.
Easier logistics because you can stage attacks from Saudi Arabia and run supplies or from offshore.
Israel will have your back from the air.
Houthis are a much smaller force in terms of men under arms.
Deal a significant blow to Iranian ops in the area.

So what's the problem?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why when we can easily just bomb them? What is the k:d now? >100 to 3 and two ships?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Killing 3 US soldiers makes thirdies feel like they’ve won, they could kill another 3 at the cost of several million of their own and they’d declare victory

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Killing 3 US soldiers makes thirdies feel like they’ve won, they could kill another 3 at the cost of several million of their own and they’d declare victory
        Good, they'll be extinct at this rate and it'd only cost about 6-9 yanks.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They made God bleed, of course that's a victory in and of itself. A pyrrhic one nonetheless.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thats what they and Iran want. Just bomb them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would they want to get BTFO?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because even 10 lives lost to them it too much, American lives are too valuable compared to their desert home.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because that would be stupid and you know it. Leveraging tech to destroy lesser tech is better than fighting at near parity on the ground.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's an election year

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not airdrop the combined populations of Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore and St. Louis on them?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Memphis too. And Albuquerque just cuz

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That would be a warcrime.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its cultural enrichment, bigot.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah man!

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Much less disseminated population so easier to control in theory.
    If you stay in the cities then the events of AFG repeat (loss)
    >Easier logistics because you can stage attacks from Saudi Arabia and run supplies or from offshore.
    Saudis wont let that happen or their oil fields get 404'd by drones
    >Israel will have your back from the air.
    lmao, even
    >Houthis are a much smaller force in terms of men under arms.
    they have much more combat experience fighting tanks and using drones & missiles
    >Deal a significant blow to Iranian ops in the area.
    Not necessarily

    >So what's the problem?
    The problem is that you would be risking American lives simply to save Israel from the economic blockade, so that Israel can keep killing civilians en masse in Gaza, we should we risk doing that when Israel intentionally attacked the USS Liberty in 1967 and killed dozens of US soldiers? Are you really that cucked?

    The Houthis have ATGMS and can strike anywhere in Yemen with drones, we've seen countless Saudi merc APCs and Tanks get BTFO before, it's not going to be a cakewalk and to root them out of every nook and cranny in the desert mountains you would need WW2 levels of mobilization.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >simply to save Israel from the economic blockade
      most shipborne trade to or from israel is through the mediterranean ports, and eilat on the red sea has not received oil for 4 years. so no, it isn't about saving israeli trade.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >drone moves towards them
        >panic
        Pavlovian response.
        I wonder if the operator was doing it intentionally.
        I probably would.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We all know houthis are little prostitutes, they are in bed with China despite the CCP genociding the uyghurs, only a moron would believe they are anything but hired thugs, and let's not even start Iran has no problems trading and working with the chinese despite what they are doing to a muslim minority.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Houthis spend 10 years butchering Sunni Muslims in Yemen
          >we are supposed to believe they care about Palis (also Sunnis)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is that Texas?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > Masses of ragheads on sandy ground around tents
          > A camouflage pattern that doesn't match anything the US has ever fielded
          > Is this Texas?
          I don't know, why don't you tell me what you think?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >USS Liberty
      >babby's first green on blue
      Let me guess, we should nuke the French because of the Quasi War?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That’s a dogshit comparison, one that would only be made by someone with a child’s understanding of history.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >we should nuke the French
        yes
        >because of the Quasi War
        I don't know what that is but I'm not too picky for reasons

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Quasi War
          The French, Spanish and Dutch fought and funded the War of Independence for the USA. The loans that the French gave to the USA were due to be repaid over decades. In late 1780, the US suspended repayment of the loans and said 'tough shit'. The French, in return, started to raid American trading ships to get their money back. The US then sent forces to protect them. They regularly fought each other but no official war was declared.

          The meme that the American Revolutionaries defeated a global spanning empire all of their own is modern mythology (aka, anti-historical nonsense). Ignoring the US military outnumbered the British (total, not just North America) the French, Dutch and Spanish handed over tens of thousands of soldiers. Even the fricking Poles helped. France and Spain were the big empires.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The US suspended loan payments in 1794 because the French guillotined the guy who had lent us the money and because the French ambassador was violating the 1793 Neutrality Proclamation and the Neutrality Act of 1794 by recruiting privateers on our soil as well as actively supporting American dissident groups (which played a minor part in sparking the Whiskey Rebellion).

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not to mention France was actively trying to pull the US into a war against Britain and the Dutch that the French themselves started.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah kinda hilarious for the French to think they were owed anything when they killed the guy who loaned the money.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally everything you said is wrong.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nice opinion pussy homie.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Correct on every point. Seething Israeli shills and their pets will be quite butt blasted however.

      >NOOOO UNCLE SAM PLEASE HELP CLEAN UP OUR MESS BOMBING THE USS LIBERTY WAS A PRANK BIBI WAS JOKING ABOUT NOT WANTING A TWO STATE SOLUTION NOOOOO

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Israel has just transitioned to moving their shipment overland through Jordan, the Houthis are accomplishing nothing.
      >muh innocent /misc/estinians
      if a hostage taker runs home to hide behind their family, who gets charged with a crime if their hostages die - the cops or the criminals? Pretty difficult to reconcile the fact that Israel has a modern military and could completely level all of Gaza and the fact that daily losses in Gaza remain 5 times lower than Israeli civi losses on 10/7. As the /misc/estinian population tripled in the last 70 years and their obesity rate hit 20%. Frick outta here with this weak ass taqbir terrorsimp

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >overland through Jordan, the Houthis are accomplishing nothing.

        Oh yeah, I'm sure paying off Abdullah and his 12 cousins for "transit" is a lot a cheaper.

        israelite kope. Lmao.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >"we didn't need that blockade anyway"
          tell us all about cope, /misc/estinian, is there an arabic word for when you happily martyr your own civilians by using them as human shields for rocket launch sites and military fortifications, then surrender en masse when you're about to be rewarded with paradise?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >US attacking the saudis

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

      You're seriously deluded if you think that would happen. The US let 9/11 happen over accusing the Saudi's of harboring terrorists.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    same reason the cops don't invade Detroit, there is literally nothing there. it is a wasteland, with some oil already spoken, full of violent cultureless inbred ape men.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why no US ground invasion in Yemen?
    frick off McCain

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I agree. Since we've left Afghanistan and we're barely active in Syria and Iraq it's gotten too boring. We should totally invade Yemen alongside the Saudis it'll be fun.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because no one wants to spend 20 years trying to nag a shithole functional yet again

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After losing a 20 year war against the taliban, plus not being able to defeat assad in Syria- the ameriburger govt isn’t too keen on committing to another middle eastern war. It’ll be limited air strikes until America loses its geopolitical clout completely.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you even know what grass looks like?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, ignore him, that sort of comment reveals how awful his life must be.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I imagine he can probably recall what he had for dinner, yea.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Assad's country has been carved up America, it's proxy allies, and it's friend Turkey. Assad has lost. The only reason he's alive is because he's Putin's wiener sleeve.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >So what's the problem?
    1) The inevitable conflict with China is currently the focus of military planning. A conflict with Yemen would distract from this and may give China the impression that the US is to busy with yet another boondoggle in the middle east to come to the aid of the RoC. Not to mention that the US military as a whole is attempting to reform into a force designed to counter peer level threats and decisively move away from being an occupation/anti-insurgency force.
    2) An invasion of Yemen would be seen as extremely provocative and generally destabilizing. Given the already unstable nature of basically the entire greater middle east, this risks runaway conflict and spillover. Effectively trading nominal stability in an occupied Yemen for potentially the governments of Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon etc. This is not even mentioning the very real possibility of this acting as a trigger for a resurgence of ISIS.
    3) The public would never accept it. Due to Iraq and Afghanistan being considered failed, pointless wars, there exists zero desire amongst the American public to invade yet another middle eastern shithole. Any attempt to trade American blood for Yemen would result in anti-war protests/riots that dwarf anything seen before. Perhaps to the level of threatening the stability of the US government itself.
    4) Due to the links between the Houthis and Iran, retaliatory actions from Iran are a real threat. Closing shipping across the strait of hormuz for example. Given just how fully Iran has been investing in anti-ship missiles, this makes the possibility of America being able to cleanly pressure an emboldened Iran doubtful.
    5) For much the same reason that US occupation forces were never able to actually get rid of the Taliban, the actual damage that could be done to the Houthi movement would limited exclusively to the period of occupation. As soon as the US leaves, the Houthis come back, just with US equipment and training this time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This is not even mentioning the very real possibility of this acting as a trigger for a resurgence of ISIS.

      It's well known the US uses ISIS to counter the enemies of Israel: look at ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Only attacked Israel's adversaries and in fact shared a truce with Israel when ISIS held land on the border of Israel.

      Nice "Jihad" organization bro.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's well known the US uses ISIS to counter the enemies of Israel: look at ISIS in Syria and Iraq.
        The Gulf countries created jihadist groups and Al Qaeda like America created or ramped up the Contras and other fake insurgencies. It works as way to corrode state systems which are slow, expensive and cannot retain top down institutionalized knowledge or talent. Rebel, jihadi and other groups rely on chaos, created by a three-level system: intellectuals, backers and cannon fodder. Creates an asymmetric crippling impact on state systems. But really all you need to know is that Al Qaeda were the frickheads left over from Saudi intel money in Pakistan when we teamed up against the Soviets. Today Al Qaeda and ISIS compete for oxygen and are enemies, and ISIS only exists because of the U.S. entry into Iraq. It's called Blowback.

        The U.S. had embraced this system in the 80s but failed terribly with Timber Sycamore in Syria. Now the U.S. seems to be in the worst position of still owning or pursuing wars but unable to win anything other than retreat. To make a long story short, U.S. missteps helped create Al Qaeda, ISIS and dozens of raggedy ass insurgent groups ever since Reagan. But Hamas was on the side of the rebels in Syria too, which is why they became alienated from Syria for years. But conflict is a normal part of human existence. We can only help manage the level of violence and aggression. You show me a world at peace and I will buy you a flower.

        We need to have a reboot in which we leave behind the 1945 model and even the GWOT model to reassess what America's role in the world is. What is our self interest and how do we intend to secure resources, influence, trade access and security in the next decades.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Realistically, how would the US conduct an invasion of Houthi-occupied Yemen? Discuss.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you fricking ruined it.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It will end up giving Houthis the moral high ground in the region just like what had happened in Afghanistan. Taliban could barely control half of the state back in 2001 but they conquered Panjshir in less than one week in 2021. SandBlack folk are extremely moron and cannot be understood rationally.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ground invasion
    To what end? What political or strategic goal will boots on the ground achieve that air power alone can't? What is your end goal / exit stratergy?
    Carriers are always deployed so keeping one near Yemen for the next few years isn't a big deal or extra expence and you can bomb everything you see endangering shipping.
    This way you kill the people attacking ships and destroy the weapons they are using without needing to overthrow the government, deal with an insurgency or risk killing civilians that leads to more people joining the insurgency.
    The only reason to invade is if you care about MIC stock more than US security.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't have any money so don't get anything from winning,
    Huge number of already starving people US will become responsible for (aid budget diverted from Israel)
    No oil
    Shitty hilly country with impenetrable culture worse than Afghanistan
    Always fighting, they won't even notice there is a war because war is usual state of affairs.

    Only some of the worst African countries would be more of a liability. Congo maybe.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Wilsonian intervention is a complete fricking waste of time and resources unless done on a country with a unified national identity, generally homogeneous population lacking tribal divisions, and an already secular state. Yemen has none of these things. The only way an invasion has any value is if it's the precursor to a genocide of whichever religious/tribal/ethnic group is stirring up shit and as much as thirdies screech about how evil the US is that's not in the playbook.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Israel will have your back
    Israel has literally never had our back. I don't recall Israel helping the US in any of the sandbox wars.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The US literally doesn't want Israel's help. It would just inflame whatever situation.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why don't you come down here and fight me like a man

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Israel will have your back from the air.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Israel will have your back
    I get that this is a comedy joke thread but come on.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    without intent to genocide ground invasions simply dont work
    with intent they still seldom do

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one gains anything when air and naval strikes do the trick. There's bigger problems to worry about anyway. Russia and China would absolutely love America to get sucked into another clusterfrick insurgency.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why no US ground invasion in Yemen?
    Why the frick would the US get involved in such a manner? Right now, the vast majority of trade being affected by the Houthis is coming from or going to the Med (there is some knock-on effect to the cost of global shipping). This is largely a European and Southeast Asian problem. For the US, it just means that moving certain supply chains to North America has become more cost effective.

    The Houthis have little to no air defense. If we really cared, we'd have carpet bombed them into the Whouthis long ago.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the goal? To cause damage? No need for a land invasion if so.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Israel will have your back from the air.

    [X]

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Israel should perform a ground invasion of Yemen. They made this mess, they should clean it up.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no need
    just bomb and blockade its
    its far from self-sufficient even in peacetime

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For what purpose? There is no goal to establish control over the territory, we just want to keep them low.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why no US ground invasion in Yemen?

    Because the US does not want troops tied up in yemen with the iran war scheduled for 2025. Americans are tired of war and there is a presiduncial election this year, so no more invasions before the 15h of november.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Iran is only going to happen if Biden wins. Trump will reach a peace deal.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        by killing another iranian general?

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is that a bradley wreck in the front, followed by a M113, a pickup, another pickup and then a humvee?

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Politically toxic. They're Yemen Rebels inside Yemen. Yemen would take issue with the US landing an army on their shores for the same reason you wouldn't want some stranger to park a tank in your front lawn. Yes, even if we pinkie promise we're there to help. There's also a greater risk of US casaulties and throwing lives away for lives lost is a Sunk Cost fallacy at it's most tragic.

    So...we bomb them. And keep bombing them. And feed Yemen details of their hideouts and movements. And then bomb the rebels some more for the hell of it.

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