I've shot the m231, and the hk21/23 have magazine adapters.
The feed system is not constrained at all.
When you hit the bolt release on your AR you're preforming the same function.
being a machine gun, i don't complain about being belt feed but about lacking fire from open bolt.
with optic sight and good accuracy for the class is a bit mg meeting the psg1, a gun that allow to take aimed shot strings forever, but is not as machine gun as it would have been if it was open bolt.
That isn't true, youngling. To quote two ready examples, the Ma Deuce fires from the closed bolt and the old Sten gun fires from the open. I don't know where you heard this but it is 100% bullshit.
The m249 is 70% heavier (17lb) which makes the recoil good enough off the bipod.
The ultimax shines off hand, but as released didn't have a quickchange barrel. And they didn't fix it until the MKIII many years later.
Maybe the drums are fragile compared to a belt.
As it takes mags it makes more sense the than the IAR at least.
>Made by the switzerland of asia where the majority still speak english and have a higher standard of living that all but yhe richest countries >3rd world
No wonder this fat frick freely to operated in Singapore and fricking up allies USN Pacific Fleet. Wonder how much he paid Singapore PM and his PAP personally to ignore it.
And still a fascist dictatorial country who preferring Chinese than others like Indian, Eurasian or Malay. Only Chinese allowed to served in their armed forces command and government administration. Other races were banned from join even though they're born there.
No wonder this fat frick freely to operated in Singapore and fricking up allies USN Pacific Fleet. Wonder how much he paid Singapore PM and his PAP personally to ignore it.
When was the last time Singaporeans saw combat?
Exactly.
Singapore has literal indentured servants.
>Indonpig/Malayshit
Of course you guys are sore chaffing loser seeing Singaporeans are having much higher living standards than you Indon and Malay who still living on a tree wearing leaves for clothes. Our mighty Singapore Armed Forces can simply destroying your pathetic military with ease.
Singapore isn't a trusted ally that we know is going to defend F-35 design secrets and they're way too close to China's sphere of influence.
Singapore has no need for F-35 fighters. The value lies chiefly in being able to compromise the technology to the PLA. Singapore is a sanctuary for Chinese billionaires & PLA spies.
My experience with Singaporians is that they are barely more trustworthy than Mainland Chinks. The 4 qty order is a giveaway:
1 for the PLAAF labs for study
1 for their own labs for study
1 for sending on exercises with international "allies".
1 for domestic use to "show" the taxpayers.
Nothing good will come of this. >t. Shitposting Ausgay.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Singaporeans are Chinese in the end. They'll co-operate with the CCP if given a better offer. That's Chinese for you, switching morals based on opportunity.
I lived in the region for 20 years including 10 in Singapore and the amount of ingrained anti-white racism and hate of the west in every citizen is palpable. I have zero doubts Singapore will side with CCP in the inevitable war.
Not to mention the entire country was built and financed with CCP resources. If a foreigner is born in Singapore the Singapore govt will immediately grant 3 citizenships to mainland Chinese to maintain the race balance. The big 4 families that built Singapore were all CCP members.
I'm curious what Singaporean anon has to say. I didn't ask you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Singapore will bend over for China the moment they ask. I am still surprised at how many people are unaware that the ethnic Han Chinese Singapore people have 100% loyalty to China.
I laughed hard when I saw news that the US is going to sell F-35s to Singapore. The moment those jets land in Singapore there is going to be an army of Chinese spies ready to dig into whatever areas they haven't stolen already.
2 years ago
Anonymous
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2 years ago
Anonymous
He asked the singaporean not you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>My experience with Singaporians is that they are barely more trustworthy than Mainland Chinks.
exactly this, and they dislike westerners too
Singaporeans are Chinese in the end. They'll co-operate with the CCP if given a better offer. That's Chinese for you, switching morals based on opportunity.
I lived in the region for 20 years including 10 in Singapore and the amount of ingrained anti-white racism and hate of the west in every citizen is palpable. I have zero doubts Singapore will side with CCP in the inevitable war.
Not to mention the entire country was built and financed with CCP resources. If a foreigner is born in Singapore the Singapore govt will immediately grant 3 citizenships to mainland Chinese to maintain the race balance. The big 4 families that built Singapore were all CCP members.
Being mag fed is a knock against it.
And being very light weight in barrel and receiver construction is another.
That puts its use-case in a pretty slim area as an 'assault machine gun', that is used either for quick fire-fights or attacking a position where its then supplemented by more sustained fire-capable LMGs.
The constant recoil system is fantastic from an engineering perspective, but doesn't make up for other issues with the design itself.
because open bolt must be belt fed
and magazine feed must be closed bolt
this answer for both ultimax an hk21
I've shot the m231, and the hk21/23 have magazine adapters.
The feed system is not constrained at all.
When you hit the bolt release on your AR you're preforming the same function.
being a machine gun, i don't complain about being belt feed but about lacking fire from open bolt.
with optic sight and good accuracy for the class is a bit mg meeting the psg1, a gun that allow to take aimed shot strings forever, but is not as machine gun as it would have been if it was open bolt.
I'll let Gun Jesus explain:
That isn't true, youngling. To quote two ready examples, the Ma Deuce fires from the closed bolt and the old Sten gun fires from the open. I don't know where you heard this but it is 100% bullshit.
drums without feed towers are fine
no more awkward than mg3 trommels, SAW boxes, or the very rpd carriers he mentions
thats not how mechanics work
what mechanics has to to do in this?
belt feed = plenty of ammo = need open bolt
magazine feed = few ammo = closed bolt is fine.
uzi fires from open bolt.
m60 fires from close bolt
m1919 30.06 cloth belt dunno
uzi is a smg
m60 fires from open bolt
we're talking about modern lmg
The m249 is 70% heavier (17lb) which makes the recoil good enough off the bipod.
The ultimax shines off hand, but as released didn't have a quickchange barrel. And they didn't fix it until the MKIII many years later.
Maybe the drums are fragile compared to a belt.
As it takes mags it makes more sense the than the IAR at least.
>Made by the switzerland of asia where the majority still speak english and have a higher standard of living that all but yhe richest countries
>3rd world
Man you perpetuate the stereotype badly.
Meant for
>switzerland of asia
No wonder this fat frick freely to operated in Singapore and fricking up allies USN Pacific Fleet. Wonder how much he paid Singapore PM and his PAP personally to ignore it.
He freely operated in Malaysia too.
Because its made by a literal third world country and is vastly inferior to Western equivalents like the M249
Singapore has a higher standard of living than most of the EU.
And still a fascist dictatorial country who preferring Chinese than others like Indian, Eurasian or Malay. Only Chinese allowed to served in their armed forces command and government administration. Other races were banned from join even though they're born there.
>Indonpig/Malayshit
Of course you guys are sore chaffing loser seeing Singaporeans are having much higher living standards than you Indon and Malay who still living on a tree wearing leaves for clothes. Our mighty Singapore Armed Forces can simply destroying your pathetic military with ease.
You Will Never See Combat.
What is the average Singaporean's opinion about mainland China, the CCP, anf their recent military buildup?
Singapore isn't a trusted ally that we know is going to defend F-35 design secrets and they're way too close to China's sphere of influence.
Singapore has no need for F-35 fighters. The value lies chiefly in being able to compromise the technology to the PLA. Singapore is a sanctuary for Chinese billionaires & PLA spies.
My experience with Singaporians is that they are barely more trustworthy than Mainland Chinks. The 4 qty order is a giveaway:
1 for the PLAAF labs for study
1 for their own labs for study
1 for sending on exercises with international "allies".
1 for domestic use to "show" the taxpayers.
Nothing good will come of this.
>t. Shitposting Ausgay.
I'm curious what Singaporean anon has to say. I didn't ask you.
Singapore will bend over for China the moment they ask. I am still surprised at how many people are unaware that the ethnic Han Chinese Singapore people have 100% loyalty to China.
I laughed hard when I saw news that the US is going to sell F-35s to Singapore. The moment those jets land in Singapore there is going to be an army of Chinese spies ready to dig into whatever areas they haven't stolen already.
I'd heard that blonde american women love creaming pussy on Chinese dick
He asked the singaporean not you.
>My experience with Singaporians is that they are barely more trustworthy than Mainland Chinks.
exactly this, and they dislike westerners too
t. works with them
Singaporeans are Chinese in the end. They'll co-operate with the CCP if given a better offer. That's Chinese for you, switching morals based on opportunity.
I lived in the region for 20 years including 10 in Singapore and the amount of ingrained anti-white racism and hate of the west in every citizen is palpable. I have zero doubts Singapore will side with CCP in the inevitable war.
Not to mention the entire country was built and financed with CCP resources. If a foreigner is born in Singapore the Singapore govt will immediately grant 3 citizenships to mainland Chinese to maintain the race balance. The big 4 families that built Singapore were all CCP members.
>Our mighty Singapore Armed Forces can simply destroying your pathetic military with ease.
Has Singapore been in any wars lately?
More than Malonshit
like what?
Cuma Malingshit yg masih bermimpi Malon hebat sekawasan. Tapi sekarang terlemah sekawasan Malon lom bisa terima kenyataan.lol
I don't speak monkey
Post guns, monke
bahkan dibandingkan singapork, posisi malon lebih LEMAH wkwkwk
Apapun yang dikomen MALON ngak ada artinya /k/....mestinya mereka MALU diri
Busyeeeeet malon malon saking miskinya sampai jual sabu barang haram,,, untung aja g di dor TNI
https://www.viva.co.id/amp/militer/militer-indonesia/1507935-terkepung-prajurit-tni-di-gubuk-bandar-sabu-malaysia-kontak-tembak
Third worlders fighting over who is the least monkey is so fricking funny
Falseflagging Malingshit using the same pics as always. Go back to begging for F-35s for your bankrupt shithole
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/pdX9osP_bhlZVkw31daOGw/
Singapore has literal indentured servants.
S*ngapore has no freedoms whatsoever and the "people" living there willingly suck LKY's rotten wiener
Because as cool as it is most of the places that might want one already have something good enough so it would be stupid to buy new shit
Belt fed is better
Its old
Poorly compatible with AR-15 mags.
Americans like to do everything wrong and chose worse 5.56 machinegun possible.
there's a variant of it fully compatible with AR-15 magazines, all you have to do is ask the manufacturer to make it
>lets use heavier per round 60 rounds drum instead of 100rds drum to make compatibility with shitty AR-15 magwell design
That's not an American weapon you utter fricking moron.
I mean americans choosing Minimi
We wanted an LMG and the Minimi was the most reliable offering available at the time.
Obsessed.
Being mag fed is a knock against it.
And being very light weight in barrel and receiver construction is another.
That puts its use-case in a pretty slim area as an 'assault machine gun', that is used either for quick fire-fights or attacking a position where its then supplemented by more sustained fire-capable LMGs.
The constant recoil system is fantastic from an engineering perspective, but doesn't make up for other issues with the design itself.
But in case of Ultimax mag fed is advantage not a problem.
In a way.
When was the last time Singaporeans saw combat?
Exactly.
Too long. Can't do cqb so there is no point.
Looks like a identity crisis.
its good enough for delta force apparently