Why isnt this a thing yet?

Why isnt this a thing yet?

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Feel like it'd be really likely to jam and a pain in the ass to load.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      As likely to jam as any straight spring anon.
      Springs can be formed circular pretty easy.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    have you heard about Calico?

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    That's literally just a helical mag.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    it is

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/aLWSlGk.png

      this thing got 99 camera vibes

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        lets be real, they have like 10 rounds in that drum and their weekly bread rations

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >pp-19 bizon
    >replaced by pp-19 vityaz, feeding from standard box magazines
    >calico pistols and carbines
    >commercial failure due to weight, expense, and complexity of magazines leading to unreliability

    It's been a thing. You can still find Calicos on Gunbroker (hell, I've been thinking about picking one up for USPSA PCC as a meme) it's just that a 30-40 round double stack double feed box mag is cheaper to manufacture and more reliable, and the extra ~20 rounds of mag capacity isn't really worth the added weight, complexity and expense.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Calico is still in business and recently got a boost in sales when Ian escaped karls kum dungeon to tell everyone about it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >commercial failure
      They haven't filed for bankruptcy once.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >AK-pattern rifles use rock in magazines
      >massive helical magazines are essentially flush with the barrel
      How do you rock in the magazine?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        the front lug is on the bayonet mount not in the mag well

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Those look like they'd be really heavy.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's complex, an average mutt failed to rotate the lever on m110 for the required number of revolutions

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You'd need to somehow push those rounds in the helical fashion multiple times. You could use a rotary spring moving a shaft, which itself contains a block which slides along that shaft lengthwise so as to move through the helical magazine, but then you'd need a strong enough rotary spring, and the block can't be allowed to jam along the shaft, or in the magazine, and the bullets can't be allowed to get wedged either, and you'd have to load the thing somehow...
    You basically took a rotary magazine and added an extra axis of complexity. Bad idea.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What if we used an electric motor instead of the notoriously unreliable torsion spring?
    >way easier to load
    >insanely simple circuit
    >a 1oz LiPo battery could power dozens of fully loaded mags
    >possibly saves weight from not needing the extra material to contain spring tension
    Find a flaw that's not "muh electronics in guns".

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Electronics in guns that's related to it's proper function. The Remington etronx had electrically primed ammo that could be reloaded and even the primers could be replaced (not that they'd need replacing all that much) should something happen. The trigger pull was essentially a mouse click. People don't like electronics in guns. On guns is totally different.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I maintain that the Etronx could have been huge if used on anything but a Rem 700. Imagine how much of an improvement that trigger would be on an AUG. You could also make extremely short bolts, making the entire gun a lot shorter, if you didn't have to consider hammer placement. Rapid fire would be faster with better accuracy. Electronic primers could be the future if only someone would take the chance on it.

        In this day and age, electronics are reliable enough to trust your life to. Electric cars are everywhere, and new aircraft like the F-35 fly entirely through electrical inputs. We're at the point now where you could make an electronic gun that would be as reliable if not more reliable than a traditional mechanical autoloading firearm. We could eventually even see partially motorized actions. 100k PSI cartridges would be viable if your gun had a motorized falling block autoloader similar to what's found in some modern tanks.

        Mechanical firearm design is solved. We will never beat the AR-15 or AR-18 centric mechanisms. The only way forward is to radically move away from current design principles.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >I NEED THE HECKIN SPYWARE IN MY GUN SO MY HECKIN REDDITPUP WORKS!
          cringe

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Lmao go check for spyware in your ceiling fan, retard.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I don't have pointless electronics in my ceiling fan and the government doesn't have any reason to shut off my fans.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This seems to stem from a gross misunderstanding of electronics. You can't remote control shit if it doesn't have an antenna. A closed circuit battery operated device is untouchable by anything that isn't physically jacked into it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                ah so if something doesnt say it has an antenna then it definitely doesnt have an antenna

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >if it doesn't have an antenna
                Every conductive medium is an antenna.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/j1TkCAV.png

                >You can't remote control shit if it doesn't have an antenna. A closed circuit battery operated device is untouchable by anything that isn't physically jacked into it.

                Give me the slightest theory on how you would remote shutoff an electric toothbrush and I will entertain the idea that you're not clinically retarded.

                ah so if something doesnt say it has an antenna then it definitely doesnt have an antenna

                Yes, because all it takes is one dude that halfway knows what he's looking at to audit your circuits, then your company is instantly vilified by every gun owner in the world when it's found you've been putting government kill switches in your guns. It's not hard to find something like that.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Give me the slightest theory on how you would remote shutoff an electric toothbrush and I will entertain the idea that you're not clinically retarded.
                1. Electric toothbrushes are now IoT devices because the NSA doesn't have shit on advertising agencies.
                2. A nuclear bomb.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Give me the slightest theory on how you would remote shutoff an electric toothbrush
                Detonate a nuclear bomb in the upper ionosphere

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      electric motors are way less reliable than springs. they break more often, run out of battery juice, etc.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Standard springs, yes. Torsion springs are the big weak point in rotary mag designs.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >arranging your ammo in the shape of a Judenstern

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >You can't remote control shit if it doesn't have an antenna. A closed circuit battery operated device is untouchable by anything that isn't physically jacked into it.

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