Why isn't the Robinson Arms XCR more popular?

Why isn't the Robinson Arms XCR more popular?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >developed by Robinson Armament Co. for U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) to satisfy the requirements of the SOF Combat Assault Rifle, or SCAR competition, but was disqualified on a technicality due to late delivery of blank firing adapters.
    Because it lost the SCAR competition for a fucking dumb reason?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lol... so awful they avoided the competition by refusing to send blank adapters

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No they sent them in another box. The guy opened the first box, oops no bfa ur dqed, may as well throw this other box from Robinson out too. Basically they simply weren't interested in a submission by some literal who. Pity, because it's a much nicer rifle than the fn.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          wow very gay didn’t know that part

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, the original mid-2000s XCR is kind of lacking compared to the current-gen ones; I'd be tempted to pick the FN SCAR over it as well. But now that they have a nice adjustable stock, ambi safety and mag release and dickmod or MLOK handguards I think it compares pretty favorably.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Barrel is worse

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i kinda feel like they didnt bother with xcr just because its robinson vs fucking fn. best robinson could get out of it probably was selling fn or other big boi company rights to make them for usa

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i kinda feel like they didnt bother with xcr just because its robinson vs fucking fn. best robinson could get out of it probably was selling fn or other big boi company rights to make them for usa

      i mean not like they could deliver them and pull off high quality control even if they won

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Something about lead times, there’s one guy who has three of them and I just want one

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Photo title is based. I want one so bad XCRbros, already have a skeleton stock fetish.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/M7vUvl3.png

      Why isn't the Robinson Arms XCR more popular?

      >8 different versions that change daily
      >little to no aftermarket
      >retarded schizo owner
      yeah, I wonder OP

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/pAlfvJ7.png

        Oh hey it's the seething pedo
        >posts this image every time XCR is mentioned but doesn't post the replies where I addressed a2s lack of knowledge and experience with the platform

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    looks retarded

  5. 2 months ago
    IL4DD

    Just goanna leave this here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most of these points dont matter much, some of them are just straight wrong.
      >inferior CH placement
      What. Just what, its literally, LITERALLY the best placement for a non reciprocating CH, it even has a built in forward assist

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh hey it's the seething pedo
      >posts this image every time XCR is mentioned but doesn't post the replies where I addressed a2s lack of knowledge and experience with the platform

      • 2 months ago
        IL4DD

        Looks like you're the one who's seething rn

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Someone has to have one of those screenshots saved because I don't feel like refuting that retarded pedo's bullshit again

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I guess it was 2 months ago the last time this came up

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly the one I was thinking about, blessed anon

          • 2 months ago
            A2Grip

            >No aftermarket
            >Ive ordered all these parts from the mfg!
            Hmmm I see quite the case we have here
            >No idea what the difference between regulators and jets are
            Not sure what all I can do about this one!

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >not as tested
              Yes. It's never been adopted or professionally used. Which makes the xcr nothing more than a range toy.

              now kith

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Position unclear, pls tune gas jets and try again.
              First party vs third party I'm not really sure what the issue is. FN ignored customer feedback, so now there's a cottage industry making SCAR bits for edge cases where FN refuses to change. Other than wait time for spares, I don't really feel squeezed by RA. I'd like to see them become successful enough to acquire a barrel forge, or contract with someone for CHF barrels.

              >not as tested
              Yes. It's never been adopted or professionally used. Which makes the xcr nothing more than a range toy.

              Maybe a sig product is more your speed? I know the XCR has seen use with police/SWAT, but I really don't care about that. Many shitty guns have been adopted, doesn't mean you should rush out to buy it.
              Your point actually makes me more impressed with RA/XCR, people have been saying they will go out of business since I first saw the rifle around 2007. Yet it's still here, being produced and for some reason people are buying them. For a range toy, mine have been nearing barrel shot out round counts with only an extractor swap.

              I personally would have ordered the XCR in 308. At $2600, that's kind of surprising considering I can easily see it being $3000.
              But the lead time on rifles AND SPARE PARTS is very off putting. The canadian ban probably doesn't help the company either.

              I waited 11 months for a big barrel and spare parts kits order for some buddies. They are pretty on top of it if you have an actual parts breakage/warranty, but spares orders get put in the JIT line. I wasn't super hyped about the 308, but managed to score one about 1k under current pricing. Couldn't pass it up. I think their big limitation is sourcing barrels.

              • 2 months ago
                A2Grip

                >Position unclear, pls tune gas jets and try again.
                Unless you are constantly swapping between suppressors on the same gun the jetting is optimal and honestly superior to XCR simplified FAL.
                >FN didnt listen to customers
                And when they do we get the NRCH!
                >First vs Third im not sure what the issue is
                Thats not really an aftermarket, its just spare parts. I dont get giddy about sig offering to sell someone spare firing pins as an aftermarket lol.
                Every single XCR part that will ever exist, exists right now. Thats the entirety of the platform. The MCX is eating its lunch in terms of stupid widgets and zoomer street cred.
                >CHF
                Never happening

                https://i.imgur.com/xAFRzwa.jpg

                I like that tripfag #1 immediately got on the horn to tripfag #2 [...] once the screenshot of him getting bootyblasted from two months ago got posted. Tripfag #2 charged in ready to explain how he isn’t wrong on half of the points listed here , just retarded (“the SCAR is superior because boutique manufacturers popped up to supply, at exorbitant cost, the demand FN refused to fulfill”)
                Tripfags go and stay go

                He dialed me on the tripphone

                https://i.imgur.com/FF0YrmN.jpg

                Kek

                The PSA Crackl?
                Tune into gen 3 to see if its real

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                XCR still gives you better adjustment for winter vs summer conditions without swapping components. You can chase the minimum amount of recoil for whatever setup your running, or to suit the weather. The difference is the "jet" is on a dial that moves. Yes it's a part that moves, so I guess it could fail by getting filled with carbon/lead etc. I just don't see it as a failure mode with my usage. I've cleaned the gas block on my 7.62x39 barrel once, and its the dirtiest shooter
                >parts
                Are you implying RA is shutting it's doors and never producing spares? People said this even before I bought my first one over 10yrs ago. Regardless I purchased enough spares to last a lifetime of shooting, which anyone should do for their platform of choice.

              • 2 months ago
                A2Grip

                Unless you are shooting winter mousefarts vs summer proof loads you dont need to play with conditional settings with any load. Ive shot tula at -30 and tula at 115f with the same jetting without issue. And hey if you do end up shooting mousefarts with SCAR just throw the lever and call it a day.
                SCAR has superior "oh shit give me more gas" lever imo vs rolling numbers up and down.
                >Are you implying xyz
                No im saying that spare parts are not an aftermarket dude. I dont care how many spares you have, I take those as a given. If the XCR was hudson levels of no spare parts we wouldnt be even having this conversation.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ok so what answers would the aftermarket provide for the XCR? Only thing that immediately comes to mind would be chf barrels, or alternate sources for spares.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                To play devil’s advocate: triggers. But t b h, beyond that idk. Maybe more/different stock adapters? The XCR match trigger is basically the Larue MBT2S anyway so I love it

              • 2 months ago
                A2Grip

                90 degree safety options
                Modularity in receiver length
                Weight loss parts (poly lower, swap some steel for ti, etc)
                AR bolt release lower
                Extended controls
                Retained barrel screw
                More ports on regulator
                Flash hiding regulator
                Some sort of device that vaporizes people who paint them awful like the color schemes in their gallery

                With more time on them im sure I can generate a couple more complaints but its one of those things

                https://i.imgur.com/i3RAGMo.jpg

                > Unless you are shooting winter mousefarts vs summer proof loads you dont need to play with conditional settings with any load
                Are you seriously arguing that a binary gas lever is superior to the granularity of a seven position dial? Dude, come on. I reload, and 100% every time no question I’d rather have 5-10 discrete gas settings than the “more gas, less gas” of the SCAR (which is also what my Brens have + a “no gas” which I’ve drilled out)

                >Are you seriously arguing that a binary gas lever is superior to the granularity of a seven position dial?
                Absolutely, once the gun is set for the load youre using you shouldnt be monkey with it unless you have a suppressor malfunction or fouling/environment restriction that requires more gas.
                >Granularity of a seven position dial
                Thats what jets are for, Like 1-2mm in 0.01mm steps is infinity tuning.
                >I reload
                Why are you walking up loads in boutique gas guns?
                >Brens
                No jets

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >90 degree safety options
                Other than manual of arms I don't see the benefit over 60 degree throw
                >Modularity in receiver length
                Maybe a large diameter rail to fit a buried can, on the shorter side
                >Weight loss parts (poly lower, swap some steel for ti, etc)
                Some of this is compatible with ar parts, I was thinking about milling some ti but the weight savings would have only been a couple ounces. Magazine release, selector, gas tube, fasteners? Lightening cuts in the receivers could be a thing, though
                >AR bolt release lower
                I could see it for the triggers, but the bolt catch is one of the best features of the rifle. No need to change this beyond manual of arms
                >Extended controls
                >Retained barrel screw
                It's a helicoil, it doesn't move. I guess you could design a trap for it, but I don't see the need beyond witness marking
                >More ports on regulator
                >Flash hiding regulator
                The gas block "vents" into the gas tube with some drain holes, which contains the oprod. There's no port flash to speak of
                >Some sort of device that vaporizes people who paint them awful like the color schemes in their gallery
                Kek, the best part about that is somebody actually ordered that shit. They did have a 2 tone green that was kind of neat a couple years ago

              • 2 months ago
                A2Grip

                >Manual of arms
                Is important if you are trying to sell it as an upgrade over the M4. Im not a fan of trigger guard controls for all sorts of reasons. But not making the lower as AR centric as possible was a mistake. The MCX has the right idea in terms of being AR15+short stroke piston with captured recoil, its just executed by penny pinchers.
                >ordered that shit.
                So its an accessory that burns the factory down? Deal

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >trying to sell it as an upgrade over the M4
                This isn't about it being a replacement to the M4 (which the SCAR is clearly not, either.) The XCR bolt release has objectively superior manual of arms, no amount of "WELL ITS NOT WHAT I GREW UP WITH, YOUNG'N" is going to change that.

                https://i.imgur.com/k95vS0j.jpg

                >As if monolithic receivers aren’t preferable
                Flexibility is nice if your upper is the regulated part. Being stuck with barrel lengths to receivers is sort of lame
                >You’re really reaching on this one
                Idk if thats the case on rifles designed for military use where most people arent playing with sub v super constantly.
                >Close margins
                SCAR is the only one that gets all the things right. Everything else has one or two glaring holes in it that just kneecap it to a point that makes you wonder why you would buy it.
                >Multi position
                Fal multigas just sucks and nothing will let it live it down.

                XCR upper isn't the regulated part, pedo. You're making an argument for a feature the SCAR needs that the XCR doesn't. You can easily change the XCR's barrel in 30 seconds, and that's if we're talking about a barrel change. If you want to swap uppers, which - again - aren't the serialized part, it's obviously even faster.
                >Flexibility
                >Isn't even taking advantage of that flexibility
                >Because many of those systems require you to melt the red locktite holding the lower rail onto the barrel and to remove the side rails, a PITA process that basically makes whatever you settle with a permanent choice.

                You're shilling the SCAR so hard it's making me ashamed to own one. Cool SVT, though.

              • 2 months ago
                A2Grip

                >Confusing me with the anime pedos
                Nah dude

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're a tripfag, that's just the default and justified assumption. You should go to a different site if you want to have a name.

              • 2 months ago
                A2Grip

                Not an argument

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I know! I'll go someplace, then in my insecurity, demand attention in an otherwise anonymous setting! I could go to reddit, arfcom, youtube, or anywhere else that attaches posts to names, but what if I made myself a constant disruption while hanging out in discord with pedos instead?

              • 2 months ago
                IL4DD

                A2 isn't in any k discords that I am aware of. Hasn't been in the either as well.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're aware that the site has a built in function of a namefield and you're just choosing not to fill it in, right?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >poly lower
                Just lol
                >modularity in receiver length
                As if monolithic receivers aren’t preferable
                >AR bolt release
                Dude the XCR bolt release is the best around. Easily one of the best features
                >Absolutely, once the gun is set for the load youre using
                Dawg I have a gajillion loads I like to use and monkey around with. Has nothing to do with ladder loads. I don’t wanna pop the fucking regulator out and fuck with the jets whenever I wanna shoot 220gr subs or 110gr VMAX or 147gr shitters or 125gr TNT etc etc. It’s awesome to be able to just roll the regulator over to the perfect setting for soft shooting and minimal gas/noise. You’re really reaching on this one
                >Brens
                >No jets
                This is true, and jets would be preferable to nothing, but there are aftermarket regulators now with more positions available.

                Listen, obviously the SCAR is a fantastic gun, one of the best around. I’m probably going to pick up a 17 next year. But the differences between XCR, SCAR, Bren are all at the margins and they are all great guns with unique benefits/features. I do think it’s nuts to hate on a multi position gas reg tho

              • 2 months ago
                A2Grip

                >As if monolithic receivers aren’t preferable
                Flexibility is nice if your upper is the regulated part. Being stuck with barrel lengths to receivers is sort of lame
                >You’re really reaching on this one
                Idk if thats the case on rifles designed for military use where most people arent playing with sub v super constantly.
                >Close margins
                SCAR is the only one that gets all the things right. Everything else has one or two glaring holes in it that just kneecap it to a point that makes you wonder why you would buy it.
                >Multi position
                Fal multigas just sucks and nothing will let it live it down.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >preferable
                Meant to expand on that and say preferable to like half the community. Some want monolithic, some modular, can’t have both. The bolt on handguard extension dingus for the SCAR is cool but it’s kind of a gimmick — the receiver is still monolithic and I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone mount something on it. Maybe a LAM?
                >glaring holes
                I don’t think you’ve made a good case for that. Again, it seems like you’re noting basically marginal differences (several of which are related to user preference) and declaring one option unequivocally superior.
                >FAL sucks
                Don’t you dare

              • 2 months ago
                A2Grip

                >Extension thingy
                Being able to throw an extension on there is nice
                For lams and clips
                >marginal differences
                And thats the thing, once you are out of the "look it works!" tier it becomes micro optimizations. Like any diminishing returns it gets very close and that small priority you put on chf vs no chf becomes a big thing when they all hover around the same set of pros/cons.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if your upper is the regulated part
                xcr lower is regulated part btw

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is it? I've been looking at them for years and always thought it was the upper.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, 100%. This is my SBR

                https://i.imgur.com/KFHSWUv.jpg

                Wait times, uncertainty over whether the company would stick around, the loss in the SCAR competition. Sucks, because it’s a fantastic rifle.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >SCAR is the only one that gets all the things right.
                SCAR gets almost nothing right. it's a fucking train wreck, and it's not getting any better.

              • 2 months ago
                A2Grip

                It causes immeasurable asshurt from people who dont own them without fail. So id say that part o the program is on track.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it also causes immeasurable aggravation from those of us who do own them. if that was FN's goal then job well done.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >namefag pretending his purchase puts him into a different class of people that others simply hate due to their superiority, rather than the truth that others just hate him and his retarded opinions.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Unless you are shooting winter mousefarts vs summer proof loads you dont need to play with conditional settings with any load
                Are you seriously arguing that a binary gas lever is superior to the granularity of a seven position dial? Dude, come on. I reload, and 100% every time no question I’d rather have 5-10 discrete gas settings than the “more gas, less gas” of the SCAR (which is also what my Brens have + a “no gas” which I’ve drilled out)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I reload, and 100% every time no question I’d rather have 5-10 discrete gas settings than the “more gas, less gas” of the SCAR
                Do you reload for the SCAR? Because in my experience the "more gas, less gas" works fine. I've left mine on "less gas" since I bought it and never had a malfunction aside from issues with a HANDL Defense lower.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, but I reload for other 5.56 guns where I would like to be able to tune the gas for certain loads. It’s not that extra gas induces a malfunction, just that it’s gassier when suppressed and I know it’s harder on the rifle, reducing the lifespan of the parts. Flexibility is rarely a detriment

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Wat

          • 2 months ago
            IL4DD

            >not as tested
            Yes. It's never been adopted or professionally used. Which makes the xcr nothing more than a range toy.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yo bought your first gun in 2020, your opinion on anything firearms related literally does not matter.

              • 2 months ago
                IL4DD

                Right, so when a two-year-old tells you that the sky is blue that's not true according to you. So fucking stupid

                fat

                Not fat

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Post your gun outside

              • 2 months ago
                IL4DD
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I didn’t screenshot it but I was in that thread. He was completely btfo

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >/arg/ namegay, quoting another /arg/ namegay
      hard pass reading that

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like that tripfag #1 immediately got on the horn to tripfag #2

      https://i.imgur.com/tdxNQNh.jpg

      >No aftermarket
      >Ive ordered all these parts from the mfg!
      Hmmm I see quite the case we have here
      >No idea what the difference between regulators and jets are
      Not sure what all I can do about this one!

      once the screenshot of him getting bootyblasted from two months ago got posted. Tripfag #2 charged in ready to explain how he isn’t wrong on half of the points listed here , just retarded (“the SCAR is superior because boutique manufacturers popped up to supply, at exorbitant cost, the demand FN refused to fulfill”)
      Tripfags go and stay go

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is peak seething. Seems as if you are trying to cope with your purchase.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >coping is when you point out the triptards retardation
          Trips back on fatties, come on now

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He literally did that though. You’re both gays

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            can someone add this to the screencap of IL4DD talking about the xcr, i didn’t think it could get better than the screenshot of him talking about how he regretted buying the scar and wanted an xcr

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'll do it tomorrow, lol

              >Robinson arms thread
              I get to post it again, it's time

              https://www.xcrforum.com/threads/changes-at-robinson-armament-co.8624/

              Alex has a temper. I'm glad he's focusing on the business instead. There was a lot of shitposting going on at the time about it, and some valid criticism about customer service. There were a couple guys with a hate boner for it that just wouldn't give up on arfcom.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tripfags hate it? Gonna buy one now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fat

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bad luck mostly.
    Its a relatively expensive gun that missed out on the SCAR trials advertisement or being featured in any video games or TV shows like the Masada/ACR were.
    So it ended up in a limbo of being popular enough to stick around and be liked, but never breaking through to mass popularity or being known.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >or being featured in any video games or TV shows like the Masada/ACR were.
      It was in Uncharted 4

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Small shop, long wait times due to JIT manufacturing, not much marketing because they are already slammed with orders. It seems like their barrel supplier is a limiting factor.
    They had some early QC issues and the owner liked to argue with people online which might have turned some people off. Not much of an issue now.
    It's my favorite carbine. A step above the AR in ergos and reliability in shitty conditions.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    These things look good in short form. Kind of excited for the PCC version

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >magpul and bushnell
      You can see where the budget ran out

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bushnell aside there is literally nothing wrong with Magpul products

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You missed the mag
        I just saved it because you don't find pics of the short version with a can often

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lancers cost more than PMAGs even though they aren’t as reliable

          Bushnell aside there is literally nothing wrong with Magpul products

          Yeah but the pros are better

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lancers aren’t bad. I bought a couple for my 450 Bushmaster. The plastic doesn’t feel as durable as Magpul but I haven’t had any reliability/durability problems so far (in 5.56 or 450)

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Most common complaint seems to be double feeds

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >tfw have some lancers but basically never use them
                I have a mess of (likely stolen) USGIs I got cheap as fuck and replaced the followers with magpuls, I always reach for those when I shoot my ARs

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's everything I want from a firearm, but sadly near unobtainium in Europe. There's apparently one importer on the whole continent and they're in France, and France is notoriously shitty about selling guns to foreign customers
    >the EU is about free trade and movement of goods
    >but not guns you fucking terrorist

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Trudeau banned them by name

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wait times, uncertainty over whether the company would stick around, the loss in the SCAR competition. Sucks, because it’s a fantastic rifle.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they only make half of a single rifle per year.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Becauase they're finally going to close up shop after King Trudeau banned their rifles.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If he was mein Fuhrer I'd have purpose for sure

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    got any pictures of it in тhe future when the stocks broken the rails are dented and chipped the grip is deteriorated magwel scratched to shit paint missing and sights replaced and broken for the 5th times in its life, flash suppressor thick and grey from caked on lead and carbon also dented sights lost and or broken years ago

    >That thing is a pices of shit dude where you find it in your dead uncles closet?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well mine is like 12yrs old but it's not that bad yet

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because AR-18s kinda suck besides for a few niche uses.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The XCR is one of the few modern rifles that's not an AR-18 you dip shit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Both wrong and retarded

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      As if calling all short strokes AR-18s wasn't bad enough, now long strokes are AR-18s too. Blow your brains out you fucking retard.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have one of the first XCRs. It’s my favorite carbine. About 3k through it. Not one hiccup. It’s a little heavy (I have the heavy barrel), but it shoots very smooth. I will never sell it. If they could build enough of them and get them out there they’d be more popular.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      my oldest XCR was from the first run after they changed the trigger. you should have gotten the pencil barrel. they don't make them anymore, and it does wonders for the balance. it's actually a little thinner than the barrel on my Colt SP1.

  17. 2 months ago
    A2Grip

    Its got no boots!

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I personally would have ordered the XCR in 308. At $2600, that's kind of surprising considering I can easily see it being $3000.
    But the lead time on rifles AND SPARE PARTS is very off putting. The canadian ban probably doesn't help the company either.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The leaf ban should free up some factory space to make guns for amerifats.

    • 2 months ago
      IL4DD

      Why tf wouldn't you just spend $500 more and get a SCAR, a superior rifle. Fucking morons I swear to god

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >replace stock immediately
        >replace optic every 500 rounds
        >barrel replacement/swap costs 6 gorillion dollars
        >adding nrch cost a grand
        >can’t warranty it because you put a suppressor on it
        yeah I wonder why

        • 2 months ago
          IL4DD

          >replace stock immediately
          No
          >replace optic every 500 rounds
          No again
          >barrel replacement/swap costs 6 gorillion dollars
          After 50k rounds the cost of a new barrel is nothing
          >adding nrch cost a grand
          Then don't. Just buy the nrch model.

          You should be banned for posting fuddlore

          >$2600+$500=$3500??
          >pay $3500
          >void warranty if you use suppressor
          >need to buy gas jet to pair with suppressor like a good boy so you don't make FN mad
          >needs certain SCAR rated mount and optics or else the recoil impulse will destroy them

          You're paying fucking $3500 in order to pay more, I'd rather add another $500 and get an HK MR762 or say fuck it and save for an SR-25. There's a line between flexing and just paying top $ to get fucked in the ass.

          >need to buy gas jet to pair with suppressor like a good boy so you don't make FN mad
          You don't need to do that. Should you? Yes, but it's not a need.
          >needs certain SCAR rated mount and optics or else the recoil impulse will destroy them
          Yes. This issue doesn't exist on the nrch models. Why would you even buy crap optics in the first place though.

          >I'd rather add another $500 and get an HK MR762
          Why would you do that if the xcr is so good? I think in actuality you are lying through your teeth.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >this issue doesn’t exist on the nrch models
            Why wouldn’t it lmao? It’s the size of the bolt carrier/piston assembly that causes the problem, did they redesign those parts 20 years after the fact?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why would you do that if the xcr is so good? I think in actuality you are lying through your teeth.
            I'm not the one slurping up Robinson semen left and right here. You're the one hyping up the SCAR here. Did you forget that or are you getting brain damage from choking on too much of FN's cock AND paying to suck it?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You don't need to do that. Should you? Yes, but it's not a need.
            yes you do or else you will crack the PLASTIC end plate that holds everything in the receiver and the stock and if you swap it to an aluminum endplate it fucks up the gun

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >$2600+$500=$3500??
        >pay $3500
        >void warranty if you use suppressor
        >need to buy gas jet to pair with suppressor like a good boy so you don't make FN mad
        >needs certain SCAR rated mount and optics or else the recoil impulse will destroy them

        You're paying fucking $3500 in order to pay more, I'd rather add another $500 and get an HK MR762 or say fuck it and save for an SR-25. There's a line between flexing and just paying top $ to get fucked in the ass.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >add another $500 and get an HK MR762
          lol, the only places I've physically seen them, they've been in their own league price wise. First result on google has it for more than 2x the price of a SCAR. SR25 is no better. Maybe you were just mindbroken by squid like the rest of PrepHole. Feel free to post your $7k rifle though.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should I sbr? Yes or no? If so, what should I go for? 11.5ish?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I find 12" to be pretty comfy, outside of 300blk. You get the full length gas system, a couple inches to eliminate port pop, and decent velocity for 5.56. You can always go shorter or get custom length for a specific application. The hand guard is a bit small for burying a can.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        When you said “full length gas system” I assumed you meant mid and had a stroke. Is 11.5 known for port pop?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The XCR has 2 common gas system lengths, blackout, which is about 4" long and made for 9.5" barrels/subsonic stuff, and standard, which is about 9" long. You can swap pistons/barrels between them.
          The 308 has slightly longer lengths, I think around 8" and 13"

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Where does the gas tube fit in the rifle? Those lengths don’t add up?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Where does the gas tube fit in the rifle? Those lengths don’t add up?

          On the subject of port pop, it's minimal with these due to the gas block/tube being enclosed (except for the drain holes). The system keeps excess gas in the barrel, other than what's needed to cycle the action. No vents. I don't have any gas tube pics handy, but it's a pretty simple tube that rides in the upper and contains the oprod.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Robinson arms thread
    I get to post it again, it's time

    https://www.xcrforum.com/threads/changes-at-robinson-armament-co.8624/

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek
      https://www.xcrforum.com/threads/attention-serfs.9198/
      Looks like I missed some drama since I had barely bought my first AR15 back then, and eventually stopped screwing around with crap and got a SCAR, but this is gold.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Was going to order a 308 version but the 6+ month lead time put me off, built an ar-10 instead. Neat looking rifle though.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ah time to bump this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hey XCRbro, does the XCR have a free floating firing pin?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No it's captured by a spring, which is overcome by the hammer

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is the best pic I have handy
            If you look at the round thingy at the base of the bolt, that contains the firing pin spring and roll pin which captures the firing pin. The small pin below it captures the whole assembly in the bolt

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >3 thousand doll hairs on an AK
              >Not a 553
              Oof.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lets see Paul Allen's sig import with barrel swaps, monolithic receiver and adjustable gas

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ecosystem doesn't matter
                >LMAO where is SIGs ecosystem?
                There's legitimately more 55x guns and barrels from chopped parts kits in country than the total production run of XCRs. Doesn't matter since like two people in country have actually done the swap/are competent enough to do so.

                It's a shame Robinson didn't follow through with their Swiss police contracts and add improvements to the gun based on their feedback. We'd have probably gotten a bad ass B&T knockoff if they got traction with the only people who have them a chance rather than giving them the bird.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                B&T APC is a SCAR knockoff

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know. They also have a 416 clone coming soon. An XCR clone would be nice.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, but where's yours?
                What Swiss improvements?

                I just coped so much about not being able to fold my stock that I started to like it.
                I enjoy the tube. DI? Tube. Piston? Still got the tube. Blowback? Still need dat tube, man, that mass has to go somewhere. Delayed blowback? Well of course the design has to make use of the tube. Don't fold your rifle, let it have the tube.

                Tube is in the oprod my man

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather have a PSA Jakl than this dumpster fire.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kek

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Heavy, not particularly accurate, lots of iterative updates, and a less-than-robust barrel attachment system

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Get a cvlife for your psa bro

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dislike the right-folding buttstock.
    Russian morons got it correct by folding to the left.
    Everyone else, not so much.
    I suppose the XCR gets a pass because the charging handle is on the left.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just coped so much about not being able to fold my stock that I started to like it.
    I enjoy the tube. DI? Tube. Piston? Still got the tube. Blowback? Still need dat tube, man, that mass has to go somewhere. Delayed blowback? Well of course the design has to make use of the tube. Don't fold your rifle, let it have the tube.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's ok, but there are better options. If I could go back in time to when I bought it, I probably would've got a pof p308 for $1200 when they were getting discontinued. Alex Robinson is a fucking moron, and that combined with the lack of 3rd party support is the primary reason to avoid. REPR much cooler. IL4DD is a pedophile.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >POF
      wew

  28. 2 months ago
    A2Grip

    [...]

    Spuhr

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Audere, don't buy, heavy as fuck. I only got it because badger/reptilia didn't have 34mm t2 top mount ring halves.

    [...]
    Spuhr

    Heavier

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    love me long bastard, simple as

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus Christ that's the most Canadian XCR I have ever seen

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      5.56?

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