The US did a lot of delta wing aircraft and realized there's a better way.
The F102, F106, B58 and A4 were all decent and the Russians built the most numerous delta wing ever made in the form of the MiG-21.
The cropped delta that the F15, F22, F35, Su27, MiG29, etc use is superior. It provides most of the benefits without any of the drawbacks.
brainlet here, what were the primary drawbacks?
Was it mainly material costs and weight?
Did it affect how efficiently you could position the control surfaces or something of the like?
Delta wing is good realisation of drag reduction by area rule for supersonic flight, with much better low speed performance, however it kinda sucks at high AoA due to energy bleed, where a straight slender wing is decent at it.
A cranked delta splits the difference between the two very efficiently
Takeoff/landing is a b***h.
Delta, particularly tailless delta is mostly for efficiency at going fast. Anything from transonic to literal re-entry speeds, assuming your airframe could survive it.
Any modifications to the basic tailless delta configuration like compound/ogival/cropped wing shape or a tail is to improve handling.
If you ever have to ask a question about why an aircraft was designed the way it was, the answer is almost always, "the design was easy to sell to dumbfrick investors"
Not true, there are a scattering of deltas everywhere. In case of the US how now came to be where - strike requirements were/are for high lift loadable aircraft. Prior to F-16 was the A-7, it was basically a mini transport aircraft aerodynamically. Deltas need to AoA to load - a fundamental problem.
Because the froggy rafail sucks ass and you should stop making this thread.
The Eurofighter is much superior to this shit frog design.
You obviously know nothing about modern fighters if you need to ask the question.
They banked on the F-35 being overpriced shit, but serial production brought costs down too much and having an honest to god current gen fighter beats out saving a few dollars buying last gen's model.
Because it is an attempt at indigenous production. Export (prospects) are left as an exercise for the reader's imagination.
Who the frick wants a plane whose sole reason for existence is so the maker in question (India) can unfrick its way through development of a mature fighter jet in all areas, at home like a big boy, from air conditioning to engine passing through material science.
Also it's a discount Mirage 2000. And if you want a discount Mirage 2000 buy one, they're good planes which are coming onto the second hand market in good nick as we speak.
Because the froggy rafail sucks ass and you should stop making this thread.
The Eurofighter is much superior to this shit frog design.
You obviously know nothing about modern fighters if you need to ask the question.
It's a HAL Tejas, not a Mirage, nor a Rafale. It's in the damn filename. >You obviously know nothing about modern fighters if you need to ask the question.
They built an advanced trainer. It was a clever way to build design experience, and get multiple aircraft types out of one design, but indians think this thing is a real fighter jet. Theyre grandoise and delusional, there are only 3 countries that would want a supersonic carrier trainer, Canada, Australia, and Indonesia. That's their entire market.
>why isn't anyone buying it?
Because it's french shit and Daussult are scamming liars who lie constantly. This turd known as the Rafael is underpowered with only 2 engines, can't climb, can't run, can't pass mach 1.1, and the airframe can't last more than 750 hours I've read. That's why the french are trying to sell used jets which nobody else does.
How these dumb cheese eaters still think they know how to make fighter jets is beyond me. Don't they see they're totally lagging behind most superior jets like Gripen and JF-17 or even superior Korean Golden Eagle? No one wants to buy their smelly Rafail for good reasons.
/k/ is so based for not caring about the feelings of dumb frogs and stating the truth about their shitty Dusslaut aircrafts.
The J-20 is the best anyway. Pic related.
Okay first problem. That's not a Rafale you moron. It's a HAL Jeja, made in India. Secondly, the J20 is basically the dog eater equivalent of the SU-57. Stats that aren't that impressive compared to American 5th gen aircraft and a crippling lack of parts that'll essentially relegate it to airshows and parade flyovers. Finally, and this is the most important thing, you're a homosexual
bad
this isnt pol frick off glow israelite
>fighter jets is /misc/ also muh israelites
ok
Feces found in body.
Why are delta wings so numerous outside of US and Russian designs?
Way easier to mathematically simulate, probably helps a ton at the beginning.
Generally more manoeuvrable, able to carry more load faster. The US was the same till it started prioritising stealth jets.
The US did a lot of delta wing aircraft and realized there's a better way.
The F102, F106, B58 and A4 were all decent and the Russians built the most numerous delta wing ever made in the form of the MiG-21.
The cropped delta that the F15, F22, F35, Su27, MiG29, etc use is superior. It provides most of the benefits without any of the drawbacks.
brainlet here, what were the primary drawbacks?
Was it mainly material costs and weight?
Did it affect how efficiently you could position the control surfaces or something of the like?
They tend to stall easily at high AOA. Also shittier flight characteristics at low speeds in general.
Delta wing is good realisation of drag reduction by area rule for supersonic flight, with much better low speed performance, however it kinda sucks at high AoA due to energy bleed, where a straight slender wing is decent at it.
A cranked delta splits the difference between the two very efficiently
Takeoff/landing is a b***h.
Delta, particularly tailless delta is mostly for efficiency at going fast. Anything from transonic to literal re-entry speeds, assuming your airframe could survive it.
Any modifications to the basic tailless delta configuration like compound/ogival/cropped wing shape or a tail is to improve handling.
1967
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_XF-92
1948
>discusses canard designs
>posts delta
k.
Ah yes, because the original picture was about canards.
If you ever have to ask a question about why an aircraft was designed the way it was, the answer is almost always, "the design was easy to sell to dumbfrick investors"
Not true, there are a scattering of deltas everywhere. In case of the US how now came to be where - strike requirements were/are for high lift loadable aircraft. Prior to F-16 was the A-7, it was basically a mini transport aircraft aerodynamically. Deltas need to AoA to load - a fundamental problem.
Are the frogs still selling Mirage?
absolute fricking morons.
What does it have above the FA-50? Is there an optional AESA radar and AMRAAM integration?
Because Pakistan is selling the much better JF-17
Because manned fighters are force-loss multipliers and for most users, a waste of money compared to other more advanced unmanned systems.
They banked on the F-35 being overpriced shit, but serial production brought costs down too much and having an honest to god current gen fighter beats out saving a few dollars buying last gen's model.
Even if the F-35 had been much more costly than now, Tejas would not have been picked anyways.
lol india
Built in curry and diarrhea smell in wienerpit
Because it is an attempt at indigenous production. Export (prospects) are left as an exercise for the reader's imagination.
Who the frick wants a plane whose sole reason for existence is so the maker in question (India) can unfrick its way through development of a mature fighter jet in all areas, at home like a big boy, from air conditioning to engine passing through material science.
Also it's a discount Mirage 2000. And if you want a discount Mirage 2000 buy one, they're good planes which are coming onto the second hand market in good nick as we speak.
Because the froggy rafail sucks ass and you should stop making this thread.
The Eurofighter is much superior to this shit frog design.
You obviously know nothing about modern fighters if you need to ask the question.
It's a HAL Tejas, not a Mirage, nor a Rafale. It's in the damn filename.
>You obviously know nothing about modern fighters if you need to ask the question.
Who would?
The only countries I can think of that even might want it would be central asia and maybe the middle east. What bids is it even making?
>delta
>not a double delta
General Elecshit power? no thanks
They built an advanced trainer. It was a clever way to build design experience, and get multiple aircraft types out of one design, but indians think this thing is a real fighter jet. Theyre grandoise and delusional, there are only 3 countries that would want a supersonic carrier trainer, Canada, Australia, and Indonesia. That's their entire market.
>supersonic carrier trainer
>lists 3 countries without carriers
you wot m8?
>why isn't anyone buying it?
Because it's french shit and Daussult are scamming liars who lie constantly. This turd known as the Rafael is underpowered with only 2 engines, can't climb, can't run, can't pass mach 1.1, and the airframe can't last more than 750 hours I've read. That's why the french are trying to sell used jets which nobody else does.
How these dumb cheese eaters still think they know how to make fighter jets is beyond me. Don't they see they're totally lagging behind most superior jets like Gripen and JF-17 or even superior Korean Golden Eagle? No one wants to buy their smelly Rafail for good reasons.
/k/ is so based for not caring about the feelings of dumb frogs and stating the truth about their shitty Dusslaut aircrafts.
The J-20 is the best anyway. Pic related.
Okay first problem. That's not a Rafale you moron. It's a HAL Jeja, made in India. Secondly, the J20 is basically the dog eater equivalent of the SU-57. Stats that aren't that impressive compared to American 5th gen aircraft and a crippling lack of parts that'll essentially relegate it to airshows and parade flyovers. Finally, and this is the most important thing, you're a homosexual
Indians are moronic
>59 minutes of combat endurance