why is the MP5 so expensive? its a tiny submachine gun, and you cant even buy the full auto version.

why is the MP5 so expensive? it’s a tiny submachine gun, and you can’t even buy the full auto version. what’s the point when ARs and AKs are multitudes cheaper? I don’t get it

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    supply and demand moron. It is an icon in addition to simply being a masterful work of art and craftsmanship.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Now THIS is shilling!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      but you could say that about any gun, that doesn’t make it true. why is a MP5 superior to an AK or AR, other than some weird icon cope meme gays come up with to justify their purchases?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        double replying, mad? Yea, that is true of everything, thats how a market economy works homosexual, I answered OPs question as written. OP wrote asking why it costs what is does, not why people are willing to pay said cost. You need to work on reading comprehension and OP needs to work on question formulation, frick both you welfare consuming brainlet Black person morons

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          lmao cope harder you filthy Black person, H&K is laughing their way to the bank as morons like you fork over $3k for a semiautomatic MP5

          >but…but it’s an ICON okay?!?! that’s what EVERY normalgay told me
          >I totally didn’t get cucked by a company that gives zero fricks about anything other than their military contracts

          I revel in your tears of anger you pathetic homosexual. cry harder

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            nobody actually buys the HK version, you dumb moron basedposter

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              never owned anthing h&k, kys

              >shilling for a company you can't even afford to purchase from
              Capitalism was a mistake.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              basedposter? what the frick is that?
              ohh. I get it.
              >he doesn’t know PrepHole doesn’t let you type the s word
              lurk moar you pathetic filthy homosexual. or go back to sodomizing your butthole with your fake MP5’s barrel, doesn’t matter to me. Redditors aren’t allowed on my board

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            never owned anthing h&k, kys

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            you’re the definition of a cuck, heckler and koch does zero marketing solely because people like you will just do it for them for free

            Now THIS is shilling!

            why are poor people always so bitter

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              The eternal /k/ sour grapes. They can't have it, so they'll scream at the top of their lungs that it must be shit. It's why this board, as much as I love it, will always suck. It's infested with poverty stricken peasants.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            t. poorgay

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you’re the definition of a cuck, heckler and koch does zero marketing solely because people like you will just do it for them for free

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        word of mouth is the best form of advertisement you can have

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          [...]
          why are poor people always so bitter

          >Heckler and Koch does zero marketing solely because people like you will just do it for them for free
          Literally the best form of advertisement is no advertisement. What's the problem here.

          you are projecting you pathetic cucklord did it not occur to your moronic brain that maybe he just likes the fricking gun?

          https://i.imgur.com/f7FlkLy.png

          >NOOOOOO you are not allowed to tell people you like a gun unless BRAND® pays for marketing REEEEEE

          look at these triggered brand Black folk, just accept that H&K gives zero shits about you and that you have a humiliation fetish by throwing $3k on a SP5 that ISN’T EVEN THE REAL THING LMAO. cope and seethe, gays

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous
            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I wouldn't call the SP5 shit. It's just antiquated and SP5 owners can't pull their heads out of their ass for two seconds to accept it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Somebody once said that there's no such thing as a bad product, just a bad price point. The SP5 has a really bad price point since it's less authentic than turkshit clones that cost half as much and not as nice as a comparably-priced boutique clone like a Dakota Tactical—unless you believe that HK has some secret sauce that makes their guns unique in the market somehow, you're literally just paying for the HK rollmark (which isn't even on the correct side of the receiver)

              • 1 year ago
                MilSurpDude

                Yeah the SP5 pricepoint is nothing short of laughable. The HK rollmark is even more subdued considering it's overshadowed by that glaring "READ MANUAL BEFORE USE" engraving on the magwell.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Heckler and Koch does zero marketing solely because people like you will just do it for them for free
        Literally the best form of advertisement is no advertisement. What's the problem here.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        you are projecting you pathetic cucklord did it not occur to your moronic brain that maybe he just likes the fricking gun?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          anyone who buys a HK MP5 without a select fire option is a chud and deserves to get cucked. Yes, that includes you homosexual.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >NOOOOOO you are not allowed to tell people you like a gun unless BRAND® pays for marketing REEEEEE

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      A stamped sheet metal, spot-welded, work of art..

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The stampings are intricate, and don't have much margin of error. Particularly the locking shoulders, if they aren't to spec then you either have a direct blowback gun or a paperweight.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    tooling costs. stamping is cheap to run, but fricking expensive to start.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >why is the mp5 so expensive
    i bought mine for 1k, thats cheaper than most imported full size AK style rifles
    I could buy two of these for the price of one B&T APC9 or a Sig MPX
    other similarly priced weapons would be something cringe like a cheap parted out AR9 or a PSA JAKL, or a fricking CZ scorpion EVO

    For a 9mm PCC its at a perfect price

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >brace is a felony now
      >still hasn’t dropped a stock on it
      Come on anon wtf

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        stocks are 300 dollars and dont do anything better than this brace so frick you too, gay

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Fricking poorgays. I swear to God.
          You can get a B&T UMP style stock for like 120, that is a direct replacement for the brace you have on it currently, and is much better at being a stock than a brace ever could be.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >stocks are 300 dollars
          Did you even try to look? Even then, $300 is nothing.
          >and dont do anything better than this brace
          They don't look like complete shit for starters.

          I could sympathize with bracegays for the law aspect of the matter but now that that's gone all I feel like doing is mocking.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      whats the point of this gun when you can just use a 12 gauge with buckshot?

      submachine guns with pistol rounds are moronic

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >submachine guns with pistol rounds are moronic
        The only thing moronic here is you, noguns.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Something something 1989
    Try being older and knowing things

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They stopped making them anon. Clones are cheap but actual HK MP5's were solely for military and police purchases and making a line for some autists isn't profitable unless you jack the price through the roof.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >you can’t even buy the full auto version
    You don't understand firearms law. A lot of people get filtered from full auto ownership because they just don't know how the system works.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of people get filtered from Full-auto firearm ownership because it costs fricking $30k

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Shilling aside people pay more for a brand than the product. H&K is le ebin German space gun manufacturer and have made le ebin SAS guns for the better part of 50 years.

    Same way people pay moronic amounts for AR companies full builds instead of spending way less to build their own that functions either at the same level or higher than some top market manufacturers. It's all about the logo - just look at the poors in black neighborhoods and their clothes/cars

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Shilling aside people pay more for a brand than the product. H&K is le ebin German space gun manufacturer and have made le ebin SAS guns for the better part of 50 years.
      Did you have a stroke typing this? I understand you hate what in your eyes are "ebin redditors" or whatever but you don't have to be so full of hatred all the time. Some people just want it because that's what they used in a videogame 10 years ago.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No so much having a stroke but you can't discredit that a lot of public adoration for H&K comes from their extensive military contracts and them surfacing in many games and movies. Part of their expensive pricetag boils down to branding, as the above mentioned enforces their "quality German manufacturing/engineering"

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Without full auto, there is no practical point to owning one of these. People buy the gimped version because they're cool and they remember them from vidya. The entire PCC class of firearms was designed as a cope because we can't get real submachine guns. Prices are high because they're expensive to build well and there isn't much market for a semi-auto only version. If the NFA ever gets overturned it's one of the first things I'm getting

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >If the NFA ever gets overturned it's one of the first things I'm getting
      The dollar itself will collapse and the US balkanize before the fed lets the goyim have actual small arms again.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I shot a friend's MP5 suppressed with a binary trigger pack and subsonic ammo.
      It honestly made me consider selling a bunch of shit to immediately go out and buy an exact clone.
      It was the coolest fricking thing.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >I shot a friend's MP5 suppressed with a binary trigger pack and subsonic ammo.
        >It honestly made me consider selling a bunch of shit to immediately go out and buy an exact clone.
        >It was the coolest fricking thing

        Its cool in an AR15 too, with either 5.56 or .22lr.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The same thing can be said for the AR15, or any weapon chambered in 5.56 as the round was designed to be controllable under full-auto, not a one shot drop. SEALs are taught to fire in 5 round bursts to make sure the target is taken down.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because you suck and we hate you.

    look at you OP. a piece of shit poorgay civilian who doesn't even load his mags backwards.

    Pathetic.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >$3000 for a gun the SIG MCX Rattler has all but fully replaced
    If you're the type of person who wipes their ass with $3000, then sure, I get it; it's a toy to you. But for most people who would need to save to get one, why not just buy a modern, better PCC for 50%-65% the cost? Or a SBR for that matter?

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Germany tax

  13. 1 year ago
    Resident Wumbologist

    As far as SMGs go, the MP5 is a bit more complex than a run of the mill stamped steel open bolt direct blowback UZI or MAC-10. Because it uses roller delay the trunnion and roller assembly need to be made to pretty exacting specs and the trigger assembly is a bit more sophisticated. That said they aren't that expensive or hard to make (just not as simple as an open bolt pipe gun) and production was licensed to multiple other countries by HK. Besides which any patents on it are long dead so anyone who has the tools and knowledge can freely make them now.

    On the civilian market here in the US, the receiver and trigger assemblies have to be different in order to not permit the installation of select fire trigger packs. The civilian guns can use some original MP5 parts but they need a dedicated production line with unique tooling and setup, which adds cost.
    Add to it HK in general getting cucked by US import regs and then getting an attitude that we're not worthy of their guns anyway and when they do sell a civilian version of one of their long guns it's always low volume and exorbitantly expensive. They can get away with it too because they have fanboys and collectors with deep pockets who will pay whatever they ask, so there's no incentive to sell anything cheap. They do sell less overpriced pistols though.
    Can't get a real G-36, so an SL-8 is the best you can do.
    Can't get a real UMP, you overpay for a USC.
    Can't get a real MP-5? Guess you're buying a $3000 PCC.

    Now the obvious question is why are Turkish or PTR clones also expensive? HK and import/export frickery set the precedent that even as a pistol or PCC an MP5 clone here in the US is a premium unicorn tier expensive collector gun. Anyone else cashing in is going to charge a slightly lower premium, but still a premium. They sell as many as they can make at the $1000+ price point so why change less.
    Want a cheaper PCC? Buy a Ruger or a Kel-Tec, but it won't look or feel like an MP5.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I don't even think the Turk, Paki and PTR versions are particularly expensive, it's just that AR-15s are very inexpensive now because the production techniques favor small to medium sized precision manufacturers. Like the cost of an MP5 is broadly in like with most other stamped firearms because stamping requires a pretty hefty amount of physical capital to do economically. AKs were inexpensive when they could be made with surplus eastern bloc parts but now that they can't, they aren't.
      H&K still charges whatever they want because they can't get them out the door fast enough to keep pace with demand.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >only person in this whole fricking thread who actually answered the question
      >it's a trip
      I guess you're alright

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's an H&K which means that it is inherently overpriced.
    It's also probably overengineered.

  15. 1 year ago
    Resident Wumbologist

    [...]

    An MP5 is probably not the most complicated SMG ever made, but it you don't understand simplicity until you have looked inside an open bolt F/A only SMG. There is so little going on inside that it suddenly makes sense why people have made them in garages and basements out of plumbing pipe.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Every time I shoot a 9mm SMG/PCC its a total joke compared to the MP5. AK9, Vector, any 9mm AR, Scorpion, Flux Raider, its surprising how many people have this type of gun and think its great so they offer to let me shoot it. And every time its a tremendous disappointment. The roller delay system is fricking stupid for rifles and the 223/308 guns shouldn't even exist, but its wonderful for 9mm.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The roller delay system is fricking stupid for rifles and the 223/308 guns shouldn't even exist, but its wonderful for 9mm.
      As much as I hate to admit it, you're probably right.

      • 1 year ago
        MilSurpDude

        I was kinda blown away with how shit my HK53 was.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah my 93 is garbage. I went on a big roller gun kick after falling so in love with my MP5s and it's the least impressive out of all of them. Big and heavy for a 5.56, and pretty unreliable to boot. The PTR-91 is actually alright in some aspects, as it is reliable, not too heavy for a .308, and surprisingly accurate. The manual of arms is the worst for the 91 and the charging handle sucks absolute donkey balls.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            i built a 53 with a friend off the brand new LSC/PTR/whoever flats and it was a nightmare. Nothing made sense, nothing worked right. the magwell is so flimsy and floppy and the location of the mag catch was ??? Every time i leave the tried and true mp5 9mm formula its a mess. the mp5/10 i built was ok but a lot of the stuff and parts were questionable.

          • 1 year ago
            MilSurpDude

            I like the '93/'33 for its looks, but as has been said it seems RDB just doesn't jive if it's not in an MG42 or a pistol-caliber weapon.

            The '53, however, is just utter misery.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What's the intended use of the backwards hook thing on the MP5's magwell and the 5.56's handguard?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          HK sling

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's expensive because in it's 60 years of service, there hasn't been a single gun that outright beats it. there are sidegrades and guns that do some things better while doing others worse, but there is nothing that tops it. MP5s still make a large percentage of HK's annual income.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Take a black paint marker to your NFA info, wipe off the excess, and viola! no more needing to do a ugly MSpaint scribble to blur it out.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I use black gaffer tape, works well and doesn't leave residue. It works for grip tape as well.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/buQ4JC9.jpg

      Every time I shoot a 9mm SMG/PCC its a total joke compared to the MP5. AK9, Vector, any 9mm AR, Scorpion, Flux Raider, its surprising how many people have this type of gun and think its great so they offer to let me shoot it. And every time its a tremendous disappointment. The roller delay system is fricking stupid for rifles and the 223/308 guns shouldn't even exist, but its wonderful for 9mm.

      https://i.imgur.com/Qtiy8cs.jpg

      because it's better. that's an objective fact. if it weren't then we'd see more of the UMP, but all that gets is screentime because it's just not as good.

      and there's reason also a reason why everyone mostly buys from HK instead of going for cheaper copies, the same reason as the UMP: they just aren't good enough.

      Lol. Lmao even. The MP5 is being phased out for .300 BLACKED SBRs like the Rattler. The MP5 became obsolete the moment some engineer realized you can take a short-stroke rifle and give it an 8in barrel (ie. 20 years ago). I commend your cope, but your Hollywood gun is effectively dead l.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah cool I still enjoy the shit out of it. Feel free to post your Rattler. You do have one, right?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The eternal /k/ sour grapes. They can't have it, so they'll scream at the top of their lungs that it must be shit. It's why this board, as much as I love it, will always suck. It's infested with poverty stricken peasants.

          [...]
          [...]
          why are poor people always so bitter

          Still waiting to see your HK brand SP5.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I don't have an SP5. I bought an APC9, since I'm a B&T brand prostitute, and I like common controls between my main guns.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Bought an overpriced hipoint
              Amazing

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/rhy4T3f.jpg

            lmao cope harder you filthy Black person, H&K is laughing their way to the bank as morons like you fork over $3k for a semiautomatic MP5

            >but…but it’s an ICON okay?!?! that’s what EVERY normalgay told me
            >I totally didn’t get cucked by a company that gives zero fricks about anything other than their military contracts

            I revel in your tears of anger you pathetic homosexual. cry harder

            Maybe one day you'll be able to afford the shit you want and will stop being so bitter.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I can afford what I want. Which isn't a 60yo carbine chambered in 9mm. You really need to stop riding the copercoaster whenever someone points out your gimped Hollywood gun that can't even accept a ln auto sear is 20 years out of date. Cry.

              AK ammo is cheaper, and the gun has actual soul compared to some gay rattler.

              >muh SOVL
              Ah, the guy who makes purchases based exclusively on aesthetics has arrived. I'm sure your 6909 is having fun collecting dust.

              >You should actually research what special forces units and anti-terrorism/hostage rescue are actually adopting instead of referencing the latest Warzone meta build for your gun knowledge.
              >MUH RATTLER
              wow you got me it's definitely not a meme round at all.

              It's not when it's seeing use in actual battlefields. And the Rattler is just my prime example becuase it's the hottest .300 Blackout platform at the moment. Nearly every AR manufacturer with a military contract has a .300 Blackout rifle in their catalog.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Just goes to show you don’t understand sovl. Is in no way just about aesthetics. The AK series are a joy to look at, work on, build, and most importantly, shoot.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/rhy4T3f.jpg

            lmao cope harder you filthy Black person, H&K is laughing their way to the bank as morons like you fork over $3k for a semiautomatic MP5

            >but…but it’s an ICON okay?!?! that’s what EVERY normalgay told me
            >I totally didn’t get cucked by a company that gives zero fricks about anything other than their military contracts

            I revel in your tears of anger you pathetic homosexual. cry harder

            OOF

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >The MP5 became obsolete the moment some engineer realized you can take a short-stroke rifle and give it an 8in barrel
        Black person do you think the SBR was invented by SIG?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >The MP5 is being phased out for .300 BLACKED SBRs like the Rattler.
          lol, the mp5 was effectively phased out 20yrs ago when the gwot kicked off and the mk18 came out. Rattler is nothing new, and no it isn’t.
          Fricking zoomies.

          >the moment some engineer realized you can take a short-stroke rifle and give it an 8in barrel (ie. 20 years ago).
          Glad to see this board still can't read, God Bless.

          yeah man this is definitely the yeah that .300 blackout becomes a thing and not just a meme round.

          Never mind the last ten or twelve years people have said that shit, this is the year!!

          You should actually research what special forces units and anti-terrorism/hostage rescue are actually adopting instead of referencing the latest Warzone meta build for your gun knowledge.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >You should actually research what special forces units and anti-terrorism/hostage rescue are actually adopting instead of referencing the latest Warzone meta build for your gun knowledge.
            >MUH RATTLER
            wow you got me it's definitely not a meme round at all.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >definitely not a meme round at all.
              Supersonic sig 125 grain 300 blackout out of a ten inch barrel yields 2150 fps as per.
              7.62x39 golden tiger 125 grain out of a yugo m92 with a ten inch barrel yields 2200.
              Is 7.62x39 a meme caliber anon?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                AK ammo is cheaper, and the gun has actual soul compared to some gay rattler.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >AK ammo is cheaper
                Have you SEEN what golden tiger goes for now anon?
                It's the best one so of course it's going to be a little more but the gap isn't what it used to be.
                I even saw federal m193 for cheaper than x39 now.
                Shit is wack.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yes.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >The MP5 is being phased out for .300 BLACKED SBRs like the Rattler.
        lol, the mp5 was effectively phased out 20yrs ago when the gwot kicked off and the mk18 came out. Rattler is nothing new, and no it isn’t.
        Fricking zoomies.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yeah man this is definitely the yeah that .300 blackout becomes a thing and not just a meme round.

        Never mind the last ten or twelve years people have said that shit, this is the year!!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't get the rationale behind outing yourself like this...attention?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This post is delusional, any modern day roller delayed SMG (Ep9, SP9A3, etc) beats the MP5 for the sole reason they don't have to pull the terribly placed charging handle back to reload. Not to mention the terrible magwell on the MP5, shit stock fire selector, and the lack of proper integrated rails. The Mp5 is a total dinosaur, and has been for decades.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >waahh, muh reloads
        skill issue

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Unironic skill issue.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >reloads
        literal skill issue
        >shit stock fire selector
        SP5 has a stock extended fire selector. non issue
        >rails
        referencing a post with an optic, IR laser and foregrip
        yeah, the MP5 is old but that doesn't mean it can't keep up.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think having normal-sized hands that can't reach the mag release button is technically a skill issue. Impressive reload, though.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            here's proper a HK SOP reload. please ignore the beard. sure, it's not USPSA race gun fast but it's disingenuous to act like MP5s are akin to reloading a musket

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          here's proper a HK SOP reload. please ignore the beard. sure, it's not USPSA race gun fast but it's disingenuous to act like MP5s are akin to reloading a musket

          >no slap

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            thumbing it down out of the hold-open notch is faster and works just as well, sorry

      • 1 year ago
        MilSurpDude

        I've rarely seen a post so deserving of a "git gud" reply.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >all the cope replies
        laffed. MP5 ergos are shit and everyone is coping.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Don't drop your mags, gay

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Stribog
            >Glock mags
            >Trashcan
            >PERST
            brave of you to accuse others of coping

            seethe Black folk. enjoy your 8lb 9mm and charging handle that takes up half of the railspace.

            mp5 is just aesthetics chasing. get a banshee or stribog.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >t. can't afford any of the options, and owns no PCCs
              Sad tbh
              >t. Real man who has used all the market PCCs, and owned more than needed

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >you will never have last round bolt hold open
                >you will never mount optics properly (forced to use a claw or heavy welded on bullshit)
                >you will never have full ambi controls or change charging handle
                >you will never mount force-multiplying devices (charging handle blocks it)
                >you will never not weigh 8+ lbs
                >you WILL be forced to choose between cucked overpriced H&K and turkroach guns
                >you WILL justify all of this by clinging to the past and SOVLposting
                it's OK to like the MP5. It's not OK to pretend it's the best in current year.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >you will never have full auto
                >you will never have less recoil than an mp5
                >you will never be as reliable as an mp5
                >you will have to mess with your gun out of the box to get it to cycle

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >full auto
                ...........

                do you own a full auto mp5?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >.........
                owns a glawk mag'd stribog and posts like a fricking redditor, pottery

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Awful strange, confirmed she eats soft armor, confirmed she has a flashlight, confirmed I can lift 8lbs (lmao lift more homosexual), and confirmed that everyone always wants to shoot it and always smiles and looks shocked at how easy it is to ring gongs. Next you're going to post some cope about how you need a uniform control layout, no bolt hold open will get me killed, and oh yeah something about optics, something about you loving wiener.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What?
                Your gun goes click, you pull the charging handle back, you check your window in the same movement, you see that your mag is empty, you change your mag and you slap the handle.

                It's so easy because your reload is literally the same drill as all jam cleaning drills.

                The MP5 just needs some training but it's excellent.
                The only downside to the MP5 and the reason why most LEOs are replacing it is that it shoots lmao 9mm.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not having LRBHO because you're going to inspect the chamber to diagnose the "malfunction" anyway is the one of the most Teutonically autistic things I've ever heard, but there is a certain bent logic to it.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/BtZVJ62.png

              >you will never have last round bolt hold open
              >you will never mount optics properly (forced to use a claw or heavy welded on bullshit)
              >you will never have full ambi controls or change charging handle
              >you will never mount force-multiplying devices (charging handle blocks it)
              >you will never not weigh 8+ lbs
              >you WILL be forced to choose between cucked overpriced H&K and turkroach guns
              >you WILL justify all of this by clinging to the past and SOVLposting
              it's OK to like the MP5. It's not OK to pretend it's the best in current year.

              Do you even have a PCC or are you just being annoying?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                pretty sure he's just moronic, acting like a claw mount isn't fine for optics or that you can't mount a light or laser to an mp5 reeks of a pseud trying to cope with his financial straits

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yes i own a stribog sp9a3g. the roller delayed one that takes glock mags.

                pretty sure he's just moronic, acting like a claw mount isn't fine for optics or that you can't mount a light or laser to an mp5 reeks of a pseud trying to cope with his financial straits

                >i--i-iit's fine i s-s-swear!!
                solid cope friend. you can stick with your cold war technology if you want to. i dont care. I only care when mp5 gays relentlessly shill it to newbies while also glossing over all of the mp5's downsides.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                explain how it's not fine

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                i just did, homosexual. you are missing out on many great features.
                >inb4 "it's still fine, it goes bang"
                by your logic a hi-point carbine is "fine" too.

                So let me get this straight, you own the Payless MP5 PCC that can't go a couple rounds without a misfeed, and you unironically use Glock mags in it. And you still think you can act superior to anyone.

                I own the pcc with a reversable non reciprocating charging handle, full mlok and optics stack, with a magazine that is not only compatible with my pistols, but is also more proven than mp5 magazines. plus last round bolt open and ambi controls.

                https://i.imgur.com/VuuG4zC.jpg

                He's probably moronic and likely poor.
                [...]
                >takes glock mags.
                Scratch that, he's certified moronic.

                >you will never have full auto
                >you will never have less recoil than an mp5
                >you will never be as reliable as an mp5
                >you will have to mess with your gun out of the box to get it to cycle

                cope and fake news. suck my dick MP5 SOVL gays.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >a magazine that is not only compatible with my pistols, but is also more proven than mp5 magazines
                Holy fricking shit you're genuinely stupid

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                there are way more glock mags than mp5 mags in the world. And more glock mags in use by LEO/MIL

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The MP5 magazine is quite possibly the best SMG mag ever made, but since you're moronic enough to slave yourself to a double stack single feed pistol mag for your PCC I don't expect you to comprehend that

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                im just happy i dont have to "slave myself" into owning yet another type of magazine. I already have about 15 types of magazines in my fricking house.

                none of you own a real SMG, get off my balls

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                so you're too broke to own more mags?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                it's more of space/organizational issue. and cleaning too. i have all the tools to support glock mags logistically, including takedown tools, cleaning brushes, spare springs, etc.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                so you can't keep gun mags organized and you...clean them? like, you fricking clean your magazines? are you autistic?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you either dont shoot enough or dont own a suppressor

                >I already have about 15 types of magazines in my fricking house.
                Yeah me too, I'm still not gimping myself with pistol mags that are a pain in the dick to load, feed less reliably, and explode if you drop them when fully loaded onto a hard surface. You spend as much on a OEM Glock mag that's actually suited for PCC use as you would a KCI MP5 mag that is going to be less bulky, easier to load, and more appropriate for the weapon it's in.

                glock mags.... explode? really? huh weird, i guess we should notify all law enforcement around the country.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                my dude i think you're just stupid, no one cleans their fricking glock magazines holy shit

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >you either dont shoot enough or dont own a suppressor
                Bud your abortion in

                https://i.imgur.com/00Qh3lF.jpg

                >all the cope replies
                laffed. MP5 ergos are shit and everyone is coping.

                is fricking spotless, don't even try to front.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Do you think LEOs use 33 round magazines in their handguns you neanderthal?

              • 1 year ago
                MilSurpDude

                Why the actual frick do you need specialized tools to clean and take apart your Glock magazines? How often are you cleaning them? I don't know how many tens of thousands of rounds my Glock and MP5 mags have shat out into chambers over the years but not once have I ever cleaned them and even if I did I wouldn't need to use implements I couldn't interchange between them.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                my dude i think you're just stupid, no one cleans their fricking glock magazines holy shit

                they get really dirty on the inside when you shoot them suppressed. this is true of any magazine. after awhile lubricants from the host weapon get in there as well, mags are supposed to be dry. i dont clean my mags often, maybe every 1000 rounds or so when the follower gets fricking filthy.

                >you either dont shoot enough or dont own a suppressor
                Bud your abortion in [...] is fricking spotless, don't even try to front.

                i could be a nogunz euro gay and still be objectively correct about what i said about the mp5. that said i have about 2k rounds through my bog suppressed and unsuppressed

              • 1 year ago
                MilSurpDude

                >they get really dirty on the inside when you shoot them suppressed.
                And they still would require an obscene amount of round count before having reliability impacted because of how much clearance there is. Lubricants? A complete nonissue, my OKAY mags in my ARs soak up lubricant while shooting suppressed so much that there's black runoff streaks, with absolutely zero impact. That probably actually *helps* with shooting while suppressed.
                >i dont clean my mags often, maybe every 1000 rounds or so
                What the frick dude, that is so hilariously unnecessary it hurts.

                >that said i have about 2k rounds through my bog
                B R U H

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >calls me wrong
                >posts his hilariously clean glock
                you should be cleaning your mags once a year if you shoot suppressed in any reasonable volume. take them apart in hot soapy water, scrub, rinse, dry.

                i shouldnt need to tell you this, i thought tripgays were all giga knowledgeable

              • 1 year ago
                MilSurpDude

                his hilariously clean glock
                Anon, let me make something clear to you. My Glock's *brake* alone, which was only installed last year, has had more than three times your Stribog's round count put through it
                >i dont clean my mags often, maybe every 1000 rounds or so
                So you're doing that every thousand rounds total or are you actually keeping track of each mag's round count? Big ol' X.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                ok thats fine, dont act like your e-dick is so much bigger than mine, i've been shooting with glock mags for decades. my stribog is relatively new, yes.

                >you should be cleaning your mags once a year if you shoot suppressed in any reasonable volume.
                Literally shoot comps with a can more often than not and I've never done this. No one else does this either.

                you are supposed to clean mags every once and awhile, i like once a year. does this seem like a controversial or unusual opinion to you? i shoot filthy ammo that has tons of that filler crap in it.

                You're dodging the question about the tools. What tools do you need to clean glock magz that you can't clean other mags with?

                glock mag disassembly tool? try google. ive tried using punches but it doesnt work that well. regardless idont want more types of mags. hard pass

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                > regardless idont want more types of mags
                Why? They just sit in wherever you store them. What's the problem?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >glock mag disassembly tool
                >ive tried using punches but it doesnt work that wel
                FFS this is just sad now.

                > regardless idont want more types of mags
                Why? They just sit in wherever you store them. What's the problem?

                >What's the problem?
                He fell for the mag commonality meme, blew his cash on the Glock mag Stribog, and can't go back.

                That's the problem.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you've been shooting with glock magazines for decades and you can't take them apart without a snake oil tool?

                ?t=46

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >glock mag disassembly tool
                >ive tried using punches but it doesnt work that wel
                FFS this is just sad now.
                [...]
                >What's the problem?
                He fell for the mag commonality meme, blew his cash on the Glock mag Stribog, and can't go back.

                That's the problem.

                nah you cant convince me, Black folk. not about the stribog thing (idc about that).. the glock mag thing

                i sat there and fricked with one of the newer gen 5 mags and punch for like an hour, it was a serious pain the dick. after a long time the floorplate gets a pretty serious friction fit. i use pic rel

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                smack it against a cutting board. dont do it on a dresser or table you care about

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >mummy the mean glock mag is too haarrrddd, that's why my widdle hands need a whole new tool and why I won't get demonstrably better mags for my ratfricked PCC build
                Got it, you're inept and a pussy who talks a big game.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you try it then, tough guy

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                People who shoot more than you are telling you you don't need to and in the same post you admit to needing a specialized tool just to take apart a fricking pistol mag, this shit is just too much

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                it seems silly, but let me assure you, it's a pain in the ass to dissemble

                what shocks me is you guys dont clean your mags. please guys.... if you have 5+ year old mags and you shoot a lot: clean them!!! i dont care if you think im moronic, you can discard my other opinions, but please heed this one and clean them.
                >tl;dr wash your penis

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I'll second cleaning your mags. Surplus and used mags should be cleaned before use.

              • 1 year ago
                MilSurpDude

                Absolutely, and this holds true the more a mag is aged. Cleaning your new fab'd mags after 1000 rounds? Nah.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >you should be cleaning your mags once a year if you shoot suppressed in any reasonable volume.
                Literally shoot comps with a can more often than not and I've never done this. No one else does this either.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >2k rounds
                lol Black person that is a casual hour for my MP5. Shoot moar

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You're dodging the question about the tools. What tools do you need to clean glock magz that you can't clean other mags with?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                > i have all the tools to support glock mags logistically
                ....A punch for the floorplate detent and an oily rag to run through the body once or twice?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I already have about 15 types of magazines in my fricking house.
                So? Do you take all of your guns with you on range trips? Do you have trouble discerning magazines apart?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I already have about 15 types of magazines in my fricking house.
                Yeah me too, I'm still not gimping myself with pistol mags that are a pain in the dick to load, feed less reliably, and explode if you drop them when fully loaded onto a hard surface. You spend as much on a OEM Glock mag that's actually suited for PCC use as you would a KCI MP5 mag that is going to be less bulky, easier to load, and more appropriate for the weapon it's in.

              • 1 year ago
                MilSurpDude

                >magazine that is not only compatible with my pistols
                Another poor soul falls for the meme.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So let me get this straight, you own the Payless MP5 PCC that can't go a couple rounds without a misfeed, and you unironically use Glock mags in it. And you still think you can act superior to anyone.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >i own a stribog takes glock mags.
                Lmfao

              • 1 year ago
                MilSurpDude

                He's probably moronic and likely poor.

                yes i own a stribog sp9a3g. the roller delayed one that takes glock mags.

                [...]
                >i--i-iit's fine i s-s-swear!!
                solid cope friend. you can stick with your cold war technology if you want to. i dont care. I only care when mp5 gays relentlessly shill it to newbies while also glossing over all of the mp5's downsides.

                >takes glock mags.
                Scratch that, he's certified moronic.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/4TICiJD.jpg

                I've rarely seen a post so deserving of a "git gud" reply.

                what t2 mount is that

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Stribog
          >Glock mags
          >Trashcan
          >PERST
          brave of you to accuse others of coping

        • 1 year ago
          MilSurpDude

          Why would you post that pic?

          Each of my MP5 clones had well over 10k down the pipe in less than a year. It's because none of the meta gays shoot, but will cry all day about how their doll clothes look pretty.

          I often wonder how many MP5, particularly SP5, owners will experience an extractor spring going, or have to replace a roller retaining plate.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Over 20k down the pipe on each of my Turks, one got broken in the other eat 115gr from day 1. Each have done thousands of rounds without malfunction. Worst malfunction experienced was a double feed and required a total break down to free the parts. Extractor spring shit is for weaklings.

            • 1 year ago
              MilSurpDude

              I'm more talking about shooting to the extent that those parts would need replacing. I've gone through two extractor springs (switched to steel) and a retainer plate over the 4 years I've been shooting the absolute piss out mine.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Odd my two have gotten a lot of love, but nothing yet. They are notoriously reliable though.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's only 1k and it's well made, thats what well made stuff costs. But some cheap loose stampings shit of a factory line that only 1 in a 1000 units are inspected if you are poor, no shame in that 99% of the world is poor

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Should I just get the roach clone? They aren't exactly the most industrious people.

    • 1 year ago
      Resident Wumbologist

      You are always rolling dice with Turk guns to some extent, but they are definitely capable of making a good product and only a relatively small number of the bigger/better quality manufacturers in Turkey are allowed to make anything other than shotguns. Their gun laws are very favorable towards shotguns and restrictive about everything else.

      I'd go for it, but I'm a cheapskate and I take ill-advised risks with cheap sketchy guns which gives me some mixed results.
      My $500 M4 copycat is still running like a champ though so it's definitely not all bad.

      I don't even think the Turk, Paki and PTR versions are particularly expensive, it's just that AR-15s are very inexpensive now because the production techniques favor small to medium sized precision manufacturers. Like the cost of an MP5 is broadly in like with most other stamped firearms because stamping requires a pretty hefty amount of physical capital to do economically. AKs were inexpensive when they could be made with surplus eastern bloc parts but now that they can't, they aren't.
      H&K still charges whatever they want because they can't get them out the door fast enough to keep pace with demand.

      That is true, stamped guns get cheap when you're making them in the millions of units and civilian production is typically not that. Nowadays CNC made guns that can have their production scaled up or down to meet demand and have parts outsourced to a wide range of subcontractors end up being cheaper.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The same reason a Gucci bags and Maseratis cost more than the sum of their parts. HK is a luxury brand that gets by on reputation and slightly above average quality.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    $1k isn't that much especially when inflation is at like 16%
    If you're asking why HK wants almost $4k, that's because HK is full of israelites.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >If you're asking why HK wants almost $4k, that's because HK is full of israelites.
      1. Not that expensive, try getting into cars or an actual expensive hobby.
      2. Stop slandering a white and Germanic company just because you’re a poorgay who has never achieved anything, you bitter little c**t.
      >moron actually thinks he’s white.
      Your poor inbred middle america genes barely pass for white, despite what bs claim about “muh heritage” you fricking make you tourist.
      Don’t have a higher education?
      Aren’t a business or land owner?
      Don’t have investments?
      Not a family man?
      Not making at least a low six figure?
      Not involved in your community to some extent?
      Whine online about nice things you can’t afford?
      News flash then, homosexual, YOU are the Black folk.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Because H&K makes only so many and it's an iconic gun that's actually pretty fun to shoot, so people with the money will shell it out.

          Black person

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >le white and germanic company

        They’re run by fricking morons who skipped business class and need their employees to work for free every now and then to keep the business afloat. Honestly, selling $3k SP5s on machinery thats been paid off for decades is a wet dream - how do they frick that up? Super special Teutonic magic - that 417 is $7k! Lmfao

        https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/05/29/heckler-koch-continues-to-fight-their-red-numbers-q1-2019-financial-report/

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        SBR is better for room clearing because if you run out of flashbangs you can just use the muzzle blast instead.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Not that expensive, try getting into cars
        >full working M119 mercedes v8 on ~~*ebay*~~ is $2600

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You sound more bitter than anyone else in the thread, tbh.
        You have my pity.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >1. Not that expensive, try getting into cars or an actual expensive hobby.
        Not that expensive, try getting into private jets an actual expensive hobby
        Try getting into yacht collecting an actual expensive hobby.
        Try getting into human sex slaves while living on a private island and entertaining foreign dignitaries and blackmailing everyone into your satanic cult an actual expensive hobby.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    because it's better. that's an objective fact. if it weren't then we'd see more of the UMP, but all that gets is screentime because it's just not as good.

    and there's reason also a reason why everyone mostly buys from HK instead of going for cheaper copies, the same reason as the UMP: they just aren't good enough.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You can get a clone for like $1k, stop being poor

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      show me right now

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        MKE AP5 series. They have been around $1k for over 6 months now. You are a fricking moron if you like fun and don’t have one.
        OP I hate gays like you. Nobody cares if they are “outclassed” by some 300 BO ar15 homogat. The Mp5 is cool and really fun to shoot. That’s literally all that matters.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        MKE AP5 series. They have been around $1k for over 6 months now. You are a fricking moron if you like fun and don’t have one.
        OP I hate gays like you. Nobody cares if they are “outclassed” by some 300 BO ar15 homogat. The Mp5 is cool and really fun to shoot. That’s literally all that matters.

        Century Arms started selling the MKE-made AP5 for $1k last year, and since then the POF-made version has been reduced to $1k too.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    OP is being dumb, I won't tell him why.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    To OPs direct point of the AK and AR being so much cheaper:
    i have a $6k meta gun 11.5 AR. I built it right when ammo started going up in march 2020, so its got less than 1500 rounds (excluding 3500 rounds of sims) through it. I never shoot that b***h, can't stand paying 45c for ammo that used to be 25. But my home rolled MP5 clone (same invested cost as a turk/paki one) gets thousands of rounds a year because 9mm is 21c and lets me do carbine shooting on the cheap. 300 blackout guns are even worse. I know dozens of people with rattlers and none are shooting multiple mags a week through them because its prohibitive. Certainly those are better for Professional End Users tm and thats why every big budget unit uses short SBRs now, but the generic MP5 family is a fantastic practical range toy that you can afford to shoot and wont let you down. If you pay $3500 for an HK marked one because you love gucci rollmarks, more power to you, but that doesnt factor in to the equation for what the type is 'worth'.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >spend 6k on gun
      >don't shoot it
      man you "people" disgust me

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        idk 5000 rounds in under 3 years is beating the average here by a lot. i just got sick of M193 prices when i bought it on arfcom for 70c summer of 2020 and can't bring myself to exhaust my supply and have to buy more.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Each of my MP5 clones had well over 10k down the pipe in less than a year. It's because none of the meta gays shoot, but will cry all day about how their doll clothes look pretty.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It varies in price depending on how big your balls are , 4000-5000 if your a chad and wanna build it on your own , 40-50k if your a rich guy

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >"stamped = cheap" is bullshit, it only works when you stamp out 40 million of them in a Chink-tier industrial city dedicated to making said gun like the russians did, a non vatBlack person AK made with shitty american union hands costs like 3 PSA AR-15s
    >roller locked is inherently more particularly in design with material spec and dimensions, an mp5/G3/91 bolt head costs more than a chrome lined M16 BCG and bolt, and an m16 bolt assembly/carrier is pretty fricking eleborate compared to an AK
    >most are new production, the ones that arent, are literal collectors items with HK tax tacked on top
    >there is no giant surplus of them, unsellable collecting dust for 20 years and then sky rocketing in price magically like other shitty milsurp (though technically a $50 sks in the 80s is $450 with inflation)
    >its effectively a dead platform, its been outdated since GWOT, nobody is wasting money on a huge government contract for these things to knock prices down

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking stupid funny little ignorant idiot. You have never built an ar and have most definitley rver built anything that required actual headspacing to prevent an out of battery of explosion that could maim the user or welded anything. Shut the frick up you stupid loser educate yourself on fabrication in general google exists and frick off far away and be an idiot on reddit you hugbox needing negative iq imbecile.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    German shit is expensive.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's now so iconic people will still pay for it, even though it's outdated. I have one, and I paid $2,700 for it, but I'm rich.

    It's a high-end toy for sure. Outdated, and could be made better for cheaper if H&k cared, but they don't. The main reason, and I'm saying this because I was in your camp before I shot one, is how nice the recoil pulse and action is on this thing. It's buttery smooth. 9mm gives a little pop, 3 points of contact, no muzzle rise, little soft kick... It's unique and = fun. All the other downsides melt away when shooting a few rounds. I can't wait to get a silencer on it because I'm sure it's even better, and then you have FA versions...

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >what’s the point when ARs and AKs are multitudes cheaper? I don’t get it
    there is none
    lol
    the mp5 is good for controllable full auto with a small cartridge it doesnt make any sense for anyone but swat teams

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Too poor to afford both

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        you pay my salary
        konsoom

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          why are you poor?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Konsoom
          Yeah that's usually what you do with hobbies you dweeb

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >why
    They don't want you to have it
    >what's the point
    None, unless you're a larping moron pretending to be an operator. Admittedly it's a better case for 'muh carbine though' than most fake larper SMGs.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Made an offset tube today to make a surefire + Modlite head clear a 1.25" can. I was halfway into the project when i was given the KAC handguard, so this will never get used and I sold it 15 minutes after painting it. I'm going back to TLR-VIR2.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How much for one?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        200 painted and shipped for the adapter body, unless I end up making a batch. That might happen, and I could get them down much cheaper (and hard anodize). [email protected]

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The legit HKs are because HK. The domestic ones like PTR or cheap turkish ones are probably as cheap as is viable.
    Everyone knows historically stamping was a cost cutting cheap manufacturing method, but today it's actually very expensive and complicated in comparison to just a computer controlled milling machine and polymer molds pumping out parts.

  35. 1 year ago
    MilSurpDude

    The secret is to have man hands.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      how long did it take tho

      for some reason mine were like cold fused together, even tapping it with a flathead and hammer didnt free it and started to marr it

      • 1 year ago
        MilSurpDude

        20 seconds? Just have to squeeze and pull.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          fake news

          • 1 year ago
            MilSurpDude

            Look man you want me to do more than one? Hold on.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Probably the last thing you want to hear but he's a 60 something furgay and still managing to do that

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/e4oGJIt.jpg

            lmao wrecked. Stribog homosexual confirmed for baby fingers.

            i built a 53 with a friend off the brand new LSC/PTR/whoever flats and it was a nightmare. Nothing made sense, nothing worked right. the magwell is so flimsy and floppy and the location of the mag catch was ??? Every time i leave the tried and true mp5 9mm formula its a mess. the mp5/10 i built was ok but a lot of the stuff and parts were questionable.

            A 53 at least seems a little more sensible than a 33, but I agree the magic really is in the 9mm MP5. God it's a nice gun to shoot.

  36. 1 year ago
    MilSurpDude
  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Muh SAS used them

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    MP5s shoot better than most other sub guns and they are cool.
    That's reason enough to own one. Nobody buys one to be a serious tool. They buy them because they are toys. Anyone who is using a PCC for serious work when 300blk ARs exist is an idiot.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It looks cool

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >why is the MP5 so expensive?

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