why is the Kriss Vector more OP than the MP5 and PN90? there are all PDW and SMG. I thought EU made better firearms than the americans
why is the Kriss Vector more OP than the MP5 and PN90? there are all PDW and SMG. I thought EU made better firearms than the americans
It's not though?
Its not. The massive number of low quality and shit posts today does make me curious what you gays are trying to slide though.
I don't consider them to be OP over anything
It's just a good an fun gun. I am getting one later this year though I still haven't picked what it's going to be chambered in.
It's OK to be a pricy but good and fun gun.
Get one in 45 or 10mm. Don't listen to Vector detractors they're great guns, look into a binary trigger for one too.
Why do I keep hearing this? What makes the .45 or the 10mm so much better than 9mm? or is it because of autism on this board?
I shot the 9mm version a while back and it had a ton of jamming issues, which seem to be pretty common searching around online.
I have a 10mm and 9mm. The 9mm runs like a top with a suppressor with all ammo types. I noticed it will jam with non-US blaster ammo such as Sellier and Bellot or getload. Seems to be mostly eastern european mfgs that are underpowered
It runs great unsurpressed with any US ammo I’ve tried. I noticed the Federal 115g blaster shit was louder and had more recoil than the same weight from S&B.
I also changed out the extractor spring for an AR15 spring and also put the AR gasket underneath for added pressure. The ejection goes about 3 feet in the air now as opposed to dribbling out the side.
10mm runs great with all ammo I’ve tried so far including hollowpoints. The only problem is with the mag extensions. Some of the stock glock mags have over molding on the inner front side which will cause the follower to get stuck once you get about half way through the mag. The Kriss extension is actually made really well and the problem is lack of QC from glock. I fixed the issue by taking a large center punch to act as file to remove the overmolding as it was the easiest way to get the right amount of pressure
>I also changed out the extractor spring for an AR15 spring and also put the AR gasket underneath for added pressure. The ejection goes about 3 feet in the air now as opposed to dribbling out the side.
I've never had a problem with any vector extracting but I still want to try this
.45 is what the gun is designed for, and 10mm is just bigger bullet. 9mm vector seems like a waste
>”What makes the .45 or the 10mm so much better than 9mm?”
>but y da bigger bulet or the mo powerful bullit bedda??
We should’ve stuck with .32 acp, what makes the 9mm better?
Because what's lying beneath the surface here is that getting one in 9mm opens the Vector up to a shitload of more practical and often less expensive competing options that shine a light on the whole shebang being a pretty big meme. In the PCC world at the moment, .45 and 10mm options are few and far between.
Probably because the Vector is cool suppressed and .45 is a good subsonic round
I strongly considered a Vector, friend has one and I agree with a binary trigger it's a hoot to shoot. Weird meme recoil system and feel but still a blast. Problem though is that by the time all is said and done it's a pretty big gun despite the 6.5" barrel, and it's expensive enough that other pricey options also start to come into reach. In the end I went with an MDRX that I can SBR instead. Micron is literally shorter in shooting configuration then the SBR Vector (granted the Vector can collapse the stock for transport), despite an 11.5" barrel. 5.56 is plenty fun to shoot. If it was cheaper I'd probably have one already but eh. On my "someday" list. Just too much for a range toy right now.
I think it's more that if you're paying for that silly meme expensive complex momentum alteration system that was made for an SMG config you can't buy, might as well use a bigboolet with it instead. Being able to use 45/10mm is also a concrete difference vs a bunch of otherwise more compelling PCCs.
Against that is "might as well use the cheapest ammo 9mm since most of its life will be funblasting at a range." Your call.
I had an mdrx in 308 for a while and was just plagued with various issues. Both mag releases were gummy and it just wouldn't take certain sr25 mags which really bothered me, then one day the charging handle just snapped so I traded it for a Beryl.
If you're gonna vector you might as well try to take advantage of the funky recoil system with a larger caliber and put a binary in it so you can at least simulate the burst mode in the FA version of the gun.
>I had an mdrx in 308 for a while and was just plagued with various issues. Both mag releases were gummy and it just wouldn't take certain sr25 mags which really bothered me, then one day the charging handle just snapped so I traded it for a Beryl.
Fair enough, my first one was absolutely perfect and still is for thousands of rounds, but my second one broke after one fucking shot, though I will say their warranty support was as good as it gets imo. But there is no doubt they had plenty of QC problems, and in particular that charging handle thing from a bad subcontractor during coof was bad.
Then again same thing has been true of the Vector. I more focus these days on how well companies deal with issues and whether they are making concrete efforts to get better, then weigh that again how interesting a given gun is. Even "reliable old" manufacturers seem to turn out turds with some frequency nowadays.
.45
It simply isn't and anyone saying it is hasn't tried the other two or is on Kriss's payroll.
>OP than the MP5 and PN90? t
Aha
What a fucking retarded thread
Cmmg 10mm. Smd vector fags.
Based vector frens
.45 “pistol” with a binary trigger is the only way to go
nice mp9 style grip
>common searching around online
Who needs that? Is that for random hotel- or club-cleansing?
>Americans
You know the Vector is Swiss right?
Disregard, seems I'm only half right
Not sure where else to ask, so I'm gonna consider this the designated PCC thread:
Does anyone know of a reflex suppressor that's got enough length over the barrel to fit under the stock Scorpion EVO3 Carbine handguard? Even if it's just a little bit, it's fine, I just would like it to not have any gaps and look like it's a whole integral thing, but not have to deal with mounting issues for MLOK and whatnot.
We should do away with the Hughes Amendment.
>Hughes Amendment.
Why, the founding fathers had personal high tech weapons themselves. They'd be OK with the status quo concerning this question
Hughmungous what?
> 45ACP
> 3 feet long and weighs 39 pounds
what a pile of shit.
shit thread