apprently ukrainians changed their tactics and advance slowly with small units instead of massed vehicle attacks, force russian arty to react and destroy them with counterbattery fire, similar shit with other russian vehicles. pidorashkas can't do the same because of longer range and precision of western artillery in ukrainian hands. something like that.
Because they've decided to have political wisdom supersede military wisdom, so they are only focused on short-term gains, not withdrawing from lost ground and avoiding anything that would give them bad PR on the homefront.
Because of this, they will never actually utilise their defences as they should be and will leave themselves even more undermanned and under-armed when winter sets in.
Their current strategy is all they have left. Dig in and launch counterattacks at every village to try to prolong the war to where their western 5th columns can convince their populations to stop supporting Ukraine.
>Literally, unironically, metaphysically, genuinely, what could Russia even do at this point to win?
their strategy now is to wait for western support to stop, they wait for US elections and hope that western allies will be tired of supporting ukraine. so their best bet is pure defence until some kinda agreement could be forced on ukraine to freeze the war on present frontlines.
>cockteased the MIC with all of those juicy warbucks >expects it to go flaccid
America runs on war, you're expecting that it will let it self get cockblocked ?
Russia did it to herself, look what she wore when she invaded
1. Immediate ceasefire, followed by moving all troops back to russia.
2. Send monke and other top war criminals to Hague.
3. Transfer all foreign reserves to Ukraine as reparations.
4. Adopt a Japan-like antiwar constitution.
5. Beg for forgiveness.
6. Become a civilized country in like 2 generations
This will never happen obviously, but it would be a massive win for the overwhelming majority of russians.
Defeat is inevitable at this point, so the attempting to sue for peace by withdrawing all forces from Ukraine, except Crimea, and begging Zelenskyy for peace talks (complete retreat from Ukraine is a show of good faith)
Fully Mobilize and throw 2 million soldiers at them
Right now Russians are just sitting in trenches trapped getting blown up. They think they have infinite manpower or less competition for Russian women, but Russian women have been fleeing west for weeks lately just to avoid the fall and winter.
Unless they're going to score artillery tubes from China or NK it wouldn't matter. They're going to lose Zap Oblast by losing the Tokmak bottleneck, stuffing 2 million mouths on the front would only make it worse.
Pumping a few millions into foreign election to shitty the the world. and hope trump het impeached again for holding back support to get Hunter Biden to pay rent
do not discount north korean and iranian materiel support. both have fairly decent ballistic missiles that could seriously hurt ukraine if both countries decide to go all-in with russia,
The war is lost but monke will lose power if he sues for peace. It was retarded for him in 2022 to go around assassinating oligarchs, politicians, etc who were more moderate, so now all that's left is the ultranationalist faction that will literally murder him if he sues for peace
Its literally the same reason why the US lost so much more equipment than the north vietnamese. The russians are using more equipment, so they are losing more equipment.
that's what you're not getting, nobody gives a shit, you're the one treating it like you just killed a demigod, sounds like a depressing worldview to me, i don't even chuckle anymore when i see russian tanks blown up near-daily.
>3d worlder still randomly mentioning bongs in every thread
how did those perfidious albions manage to generate so much envy? bongs aren't even that influential anymore and they're still generating indian seethe daily.
I honestly don't know why they think we're superior to them. We're just over here, doing are thing, and these funny foriegn types keep attributing these amazing miracles to us.
I mean, I don't mind being worshipped as a God, but there's plenty of better Deities to choose from. The Flying Spaghetti Monster, for one.
They aren't. All supposed losses are lies propagated by anti-Hindu conspirators intent on dividing the greatest friendship in history which goes back tens of centuries.
>russians started their usual firehouse of falsehood out of nowhere
Thanks for confirming that they're alive. Loosing Robotne don't go well for their sanity.
>the airport is that close to the line still
They better not retreat when the Ukies get that far in.
A lot of blood was split over that airport.
I will be rather disappointed if the Russians aren't forced to spill just as much of theirs over it.
>Who gets the blessed rain?
It was described as a "military warehouse".
Didn't explode like an ammo dump or fuel depot but still went boom a bit I think.
A thing I've been noticing is more helicopter and fixed wing losses in the south being brought up. I think they're having to compensate for the difference in artillery. But they're back to losing a helicopter every week like in the last months of Bakhmut.
well RUSI had a whole paper about it, pretty much Ukraine fight in a really conservative manner focusing on small offensive to occupy a strategically significant outpost insteed Russia has a really aggresive denfensive doctrine and that's create a paradoxical scenario where Russia despite being of the offensive is often the one having to attack fortified positions
Do we really need a thread for everything Russia does poorly, when the answer is always the same?
They are: >incompetent >ignorant >alcoholics >drug addicted >liars >corrupt >AIDS infected >hypocrites >lazy >and goddamn proud about it
Russia unironically has nothing to contribute to the world, their main export for the past two centuries has been misery.
They are not a nation, they are a horde of thieves, rapists, murderers, terrorists, liars and hypocrites that do nothing but drag the rest of humanity down
1. They’re not. Orynx is very biased and has been caught multiple times failing to count Ukie losses or double-counting RU losses. Also he only counts visual losses and Ukr strictly controls info leakage. So unless a RU drone gets a clear view of a loss it’s unlikely to be reported. The Chally2 loss is a prime example; it was reported ONLY because an Ukr serviceman accidentally showed the loss in a video.
2. Ukr benefits TREMENDOUSLY from real-time NATO intel. This allows a drone team to quickly put eyes on a target which also allows them to take video of the kill.
So in short the losses are much closer that you believe and NATO intel support is what even puts them in competition.
>Orynx is very biased and has been caught multiple times failing to count Ukie losses or double-counting RU losses.
Eighteen months of this bullshit accusation, never offered with solid evidence of a significant miscount. The team behind Oryx have been transparent and publicly corrected errors brought to their attention. >Also he only counts visual losses
Yes, and his decision to exclude the Russian MOD's fanfic by insisting on geolocated photo or video evidence must strike you as terribly unfair, but that's his decision to make. Picrel, go start your own fucking OSINT blog and see what sort of a reputation for integrity you can generate. >So unless a RU drone gets a clear view of a loss it’s unlikely to be reported
Russia has a whole network of milbloggers and affiliated Telegram channels and they spam every bit of flattering footage they can get to boost morale. But first: there needs to BE a loss to photograph. The simplest explanation isn't a conspiracy of NATO satellites guiding AFU drones to get the best angles for battlefield surveillance. It's that Russia scores fewer kills than Ukraine.
Or, let me guess, you're going to argue that when the Russian forces put their tails between their legs and fled Kharkiv in a panic there were TONS of AFU casualties that the Russians just couldn't seem to take clear photos of during their hasty retreat?
>The team behind Oryx have been transparent and publicly corrected errors brought to their attention.
Openly admitting and correcting an error made in good faith is a sign of weakness. We are dealing with creatures that live in a society in which for generations the only way to deal with a fuckup was to lie and if the lie is found out you simply lie some more.
If someone admits to a failure or mistake he was forced to do so and is simply the public scapegoat. The loss of face that goes with such an action is already part of the punishment, no matter what other forms of punishment may follow.
They simply can't grasp the concept of admitting a mistake as a sign of integrity and strength.
>has been caught multiple times failing to count Ukie losses or double-counting RU losses.
No there wasn't such instances, in fact Russoids were caught multiple times passing different angles of vehicles as different vehicles >Also he only counts visual losses and Ukr strictly controls info leakage. So unless a RU drone gets a clear view of a loss it’s unlikely to be reported.
So is Puccia >The Chally2 loss is a prime example; it was reported ONLY because an Ukr serviceman accidentally showed the loss in a video.
Ukrainian drone once flew over Belgorod region showing depo where Russians brings their lost and damaged vehicles, a single depo had several hundred destroyed beyond repair tanks, Ifvs and trucks none of which were recorded on Oryx >2. Ukr benefits TREMENDOUSLY from real-time NATO intel. This allows a drone team to quickly put eyes on a target which also allows them to take video of the kill.
This real time data also allows them to make that kill in first place >losses are much closer
Cope
The funniest thing about this "double counted vehicles" cope is that they could just make their own site where they point out all the mistakes. All the images are freely available
Even if we charitably assume they're correct about the double counting, they're arguing whether Russia lost 5000 or 4999 tanks
They'll always say Oryx double counts/lies but can never provide a single example. Any time someone has pointed out an inaccuracy, Oryx immediately fixed it.
With the app jailbroke we can see your flag and your posts you deletes you stupid fuck stop that shit. Why do you always delete your own posts you gay. Stop being a bigger dick sucker than janny atlreast admit you delete your own shit constantly
Bad leadership and a lack of NCOs. The Russian Army was designed for massive armored pushes to overrun the enemy. However, in current year there's enough ATGMs that a well planned ambush can wipe an entire company of tanks. With incompetent Senior Officers and no effective NCOs you get cases where entire brigades just keep waltzing into the same killbox again and again and get mauled.
Because Russia a shit
because god hates ziggers
fun fact, it was the same in WWII
apprently ukrainians changed their tactics and advance slowly with small units instead of massed vehicle attacks, force russian arty to react and destroy them with counterbattery fire, similar shit with other russian vehicles. pidorashkas can't do the same because of longer range and precision of western artillery in ukrainian hands. something like that.
russia have way more trash to lose
Because they've decided to have political wisdom supersede military wisdom, so they are only focused on short-term gains, not withdrawing from lost ground and avoiding anything that would give them bad PR on the homefront.
Because of this, they will never actually utilise their defences as they should be and will leave themselves even more undermanned and under-armed when winter sets in.
Real answer is incompetent leadership.
>Why is Russia losing so much more vehicles than Ukraine?
As comrade Stalin used to say:
>It doesn't matter how they vote, it only matters how we count
>vatmorons STILL seething about Oryx' count
Damn shame he's quiting
List will still be updated by Jakub.
Also mention have the disproportional losses for the artillery.
Western equipment is really superior, isn't it?
Did you somehow learn nothing from Desert Storm?
Literally, unironically, metaphysically, genuinely, what could Russia even do at this point to win?
Their current strategy is all they have left. Dig in and launch counterattacks at every village to try to prolong the war to where their western 5th columns can convince their populations to stop supporting Ukraine.
>Literally, unironically, metaphysically, genuinely, what could Russia even do at this point to win?
their strategy now is to wait for western support to stop, they wait for US elections and hope that western allies will be tired of supporting ukraine. so their best bet is pure defence until some kinda agreement could be forced on ukraine to freeze the war on present frontlines.
>Waiting for the MIC to get tired after it gets going
lmao good luck to them I suppose
>cockteased the MIC with all of those juicy warbucks
>expects it to go flaccid
America runs on war, you're expecting that it will let it self get cockblocked ?
Russia did it to herself, look what she wore when she invaded
chuddies are anti war isolationists again now
try to keep up
>chuddies
The deep state is sure to listen to them now they're openly shilling for a committed enemy of America!
They uniron do not have a way to win
They should have pulled out back in march 2022 when this became obvious
Change their win conditions to something more realistically achievable within their current means, for example not losing luganda/donbanwe/crimea
Pray that the horse will learn to sing.
1. Immediate ceasefire, followed by moving all troops back to russia.
2. Send monke and other top war criminals to Hague.
3. Transfer all foreign reserves to Ukraine as reparations.
4. Adopt a Japan-like antiwar constitution.
5. Beg for forgiveness.
6. Become a civilized country in like 2 generations
This will never happen obviously, but it would be a massive win for the overwhelming majority of russians.
>4. Adopt a Japan-like antiwar constitution.
They don't even need to go that far. Just pledge support against the West's enemies.
Defeat is inevitable at this point, so the attempting to sue for peace by withdrawing all forces from Ukraine, except Crimea, and begging Zelenskyy for peace talks (complete retreat from Ukraine is a show of good faith)
>withdrawing all forces from Ukraine, except Crimea
Why is Crimea excluded?
because my ex lives there and I hate that bitch and I want her to suffer the miserable life with no hope at all that only a russian could understand.
Understandable.
Makes sense
Russia will never release Sevastopol *~~*~~
Fully Mobilize and throw 2 million soldiers at them
Right now Russians are just sitting in trenches trapped getting blown up. They think they have infinite manpower or less competition for Russian women, but Russian women have been fleeing west for weeks lately just to avoid the fall and winter.
Unless they're going to score artillery tubes from China or NK it wouldn't matter. They're going to lose Zap Oblast by losing the Tokmak bottleneck, stuffing 2 million mouths on the front would only make it worse.
Russian women already have bearded gentlemen to comfort them.
Pumping a few millions into foreign election to shitty the the world. and hope trump het impeached again for holding back support to get Hunter Biden to pay rent
do not discount north korean and iranian materiel support. both have fairly decent ballistic missiles that could seriously hurt ukraine if both countries decide to go all-in with russia,
The war is lost but monke will lose power if he sues for peace. It was retarded for him in 2022 to go around assassinating oligarchs, politicians, etc who were more moderate, so now all that's left is the ultranationalist faction that will literally murder him if he sues for peace
Because they are on the defen...huh....
Gets your almonds activated doesn't it
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/image/SAHCHBG58PcjKUNtPvb-1g/
Meh, a pretty pathetic showing so far. Please spam more
Anon I...
Anon...I hate to be the one to tell you this...
Only 1 destroyed by a kornet. This is just a different angle of the first one
>he wants to get into a destroyed vehicle spaming contest
silly zigger, when will you learn?
>webm
fucking kek
>tfw you will never watch jerma stream himself piloting suicide drones
I can't wait for the absolute gigakino anime about this war that will come out in 50 years
>If only Slav Kircheis was here.
we live in a cyberpunk dystopia but without the only good part, the aesthetics
do you have the one where the russian tank column runs into their own mines and then friendly fires their commander
lmao
Nice Arma footage, what unit are you playing in?
>>>/vr/
These Twitch livestreams are getting wild
Maybe in some 3rdl world era mind who thinks western powers are some sort of gods.
Holy ESL. What point are you trying to convey
I'm having a stroke here!
I was trying to say
>Maybe in some 3rd worlders mind who thinks western powers are some sort of gods.
You mean like the T-90M?
>impact
>cut
>different wreck
tiresome.jpeg
HMMMMMMMMMMM I WONDER WHY THIS SUICIDE DRONE CUT ITS FOOTAGE UPON IMPACT
holy fucking retard
it's in the same place rajesh
Why is it funny? It was undefeated, not unkillable.
Why?
A tank being destroyed by an anti tank weapon is surprising to you?
What exactly do you think happens in a war zone??
Kind of hard to be defeated when you've never seen real peer to peer action
SHITSHITSHITSHITSHIT
T-90M lost to Swedish recoilless rifle made in 1949
Oh they're over 12k now lmao
2874 captured is pretty mindblowing imo...
Ukrainian tractors putting in the work!
Its literally the same reason why the US lost so much more equipment than the north vietnamese. The russians are using more equipment, so they are losing more equipment.
I don't remember North Vietnam blowing up Golden Bridge, blowing up B-52 on American airbases in Ohio or attacking White house
I don't see what that has to do with anything
Russia is losing more because they suck
that's what you're not getting, nobody gives a shit, you're the one treating it like you just killed a demigod, sounds like a depressing worldview to me, i don't even chuckle anymore when i see russian tanks blown up near-daily.
> 35 T-90M: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged) (3, damaged) (4, damaged) (5, damaged) (6, damaged) (1, damaged and abandoned) (2, damaged and abandoned) (3, damaged and abandoned) (4 and 5, damaged and abandoned) (6, damaged and abandoned) (1, captured) (2, captured)
lmao you're so fucking mad
>3d worlder still randomly mentioning bongs in every thread
how did those perfidious albions manage to generate so much envy? bongs aren't even that influential anymore and they're still generating indian seethe daily.
I honestly don't know why they think we're superior to them. We're just over here, doing are thing, and these funny foriegn types keep attributing these amazing miracles to us.
I mean, I don't mind being worshipped as a God, but there's plenty of better Deities to choose from. The Flying Spaghetti Monster, for one.
They aren't. All supposed losses are lies propagated by anti-Hindu conspirators intent on dividing the greatest friendship in history which goes back tens of centuries.
Should we tell the Indians that the only reason we bothered with Afghanistan was to prevent the Russians from invading them?
>russians started their usual firehouse of falsehood out of nowhere
Thanks for confirming that they're alive. Loosing Robotne don't go well for their sanity.
You think that guy invented the term or something? It's literally your employer's strategy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood
because they are constantly on the attack in this area but those attacks aren't really doing anything
>The same cope arrows as the ones from 12 months ago
LMAO
Their greatest achievement in this area was taking piss key, even Marinka isn't taken despite it being literally flattened.
>the airport is that close to the line still
They better not retreat when the Ukies get that far in.
A lot of blood was split over that airport.
I will be rather disappointed if the Russians aren't forced to spill just as much of theirs over it.
The funny part is the Ukrainians took some ground back there today lmao
>it's getting closer
Been waiting nearly a decade for this shit.
This is gonna be an interesting month.
Hyperdimensional fortress Pisky soon?
Wait, the uki are advancing on donetsk?
Just a tactical goodwill feint, cumrade, nothing to worry about.
Soon the evil genetically modified nazi gay garden gnomes will be inside the ass of the ass and the gloves will measure the eggs, two more weeks*~~))
So many more you shitskin esl scum
Simple skill issue.
Why is mental illness so prevalent on this board
They get triggered by facts and logic.
If you only knew how bad things really are.
What am I looking at?
Milliseconds before a healthy dose of tungsten rain
The small white smudge at the top in the middle?
Who gets the blessed rain? Someone important?
>Who gets the blessed rain?
It was described as a "military warehouse".
Didn't explode like an ammo dump or fuel depot but still went boom a bit I think.
That footage is of a warehouse with Ka-52 helo whirlwind missiles being lit the fuck up.
Nice, thanks!
A thing I've been noticing is more helicopter and fixed wing losses in the south being brought up. I think they're having to compensate for the difference in artillery. But they're back to losing a helicopter every week like in the last months of Bakhmut.
>Unknown Truck
it's all a part of the plan.
>Lesser quality
>Initial offensive in the north being a disaster
>Attackers generally have higher casualties
Three main points really
>Attackers generally have higher casualties
That's Russian losses right now, on a defensive
well RUSI had a whole paper about it, pretty much Ukraine fight in a really conservative manner focusing on small offensive to occupy a strategically significant outpost insteed Russia has a really aggresive denfensive doctrine and that's create a paradoxical scenario where Russia despite being of the offensive is often the one having to attack fortified positions
Because Russia is on the offensive against an entren-wait… oh no zister bros
>why are Russians bad at X?
Do we really need a thread for everything Russia does poorly, when the answer is always the same?
They are:
>incompetent
>ignorant
>alcoholics
>drug addicted
>liars
>corrupt
>AIDS infected
>hypocrites
>lazy
>and goddamn proud about it
Russia unironically has nothing to contribute to the world, their main export for the past two centuries has been misery.
They are not a nation, they are a horde of thieves, rapists, murderers, terrorists, liars and hypocrites that do nothing but drag the rest of humanity down
Anon you should get into politics, I would vote for you
1. They’re not. Orynx is very biased and has been caught multiple times failing to count Ukie losses or double-counting RU losses. Also he only counts visual losses and Ukr strictly controls info leakage. So unless a RU drone gets a clear view of a loss it’s unlikely to be reported. The Chally2 loss is a prime example; it was reported ONLY because an Ukr serviceman accidentally showed the loss in a video.
2. Ukr benefits TREMENDOUSLY from real-time NATO intel. This allows a drone team to quickly put eyes on a target which also allows them to take video of the kill.
So in short the losses are much closer that you believe and NATO intel support is what even puts them in competition.
>Orynx is very biased and has been caught multiple times failing to count Ukie losses or double-counting RU losses.
May we see it?
>Orynx is very biased and has been caught multiple times failing to count Ukie losses or double-counting RU losses.
Eighteen months of this bullshit accusation, never offered with solid evidence of a significant miscount. The team behind Oryx have been transparent and publicly corrected errors brought to their attention.
>Also he only counts visual losses
Yes, and his decision to exclude the Russian MOD's fanfic by insisting on geolocated photo or video evidence must strike you as terribly unfair, but that's his decision to make. Picrel, go start your own fucking OSINT blog and see what sort of a reputation for integrity you can generate.
>So unless a RU drone gets a clear view of a loss it’s unlikely to be reported
Russia has a whole network of milbloggers and affiliated Telegram channels and they spam every bit of flattering footage they can get to boost morale. But first: there needs to BE a loss to photograph. The simplest explanation isn't a conspiracy of NATO satellites guiding AFU drones to get the best angles for battlefield surveillance. It's that Russia scores fewer kills than Ukraine.
Or, let me guess, you're going to argue that when the Russian forces put their tails between their legs and fled Kharkiv in a panic there were TONS of AFU casualties that the Russians just couldn't seem to take clear photos of during their hasty retreat?
>The team behind Oryx have been transparent and publicly corrected errors brought to their attention.
Openly admitting and correcting an error made in good faith is a sign of weakness. We are dealing with creatures that live in a society in which for generations the only way to deal with a fuckup was to lie and if the lie is found out you simply lie some more.
If someone admits to a failure or mistake he was forced to do so and is simply the public scapegoat. The loss of face that goes with such an action is already part of the punishment, no matter what other forms of punishment may follow.
They simply can't grasp the concept of admitting a mistake as a sign of integrity and strength.
>has been caught multiple times failing to count Ukie losses or double-counting RU losses.
No there wasn't such instances, in fact Russoids were caught multiple times passing different angles of vehicles as different vehicles
>Also he only counts visual losses and Ukr strictly controls info leakage. So unless a RU drone gets a clear view of a loss it’s unlikely to be reported.
So is Puccia
>The Chally2 loss is a prime example; it was reported ONLY because an Ukr serviceman accidentally showed the loss in a video.
Ukrainian drone once flew over Belgorod region showing depo where Russians brings their lost and damaged vehicles, a single depo had several hundred destroyed beyond repair tanks, Ifvs and trucks none of which were recorded on Oryx
>2. Ukr benefits TREMENDOUSLY from real-time NATO intel. This allows a drone team to quickly put eyes on a target which also allows them to take video of the kill.
This real time data also allows them to make that kill in first place
>losses are much closer
Cope
The funniest thing about this "double counted vehicles" cope is that they could just make their own site where they point out all the mistakes. All the images are freely available
Even if we charitably assume they're correct about the double counting, they're arguing whether Russia lost 5000 or 4999 tanks
They'll always say Oryx double counts/lies but can never provide a single example. Any time someone has pointed out an inaccuracy, Oryx immediately fixed it.
With the app jailbroke we can see your flag and your posts you deletes you stupid fuck stop that shit. Why do you always delete your own posts you gay. Stop being a bigger dick sucker than janny atlreast admit you delete your own shit constantly
Bad leadership and a lack of NCOs. The Russian Army was designed for massive armored pushes to overrun the enemy. However, in current year there's enough ATGMs that a well planned ambush can wipe an entire company of tanks. With incompetent Senior Officers and no effective NCOs you get cases where entire brigades just keep waltzing into the same killbox again and again and get mauled.
russia is winning
winning what
The HIV infection contest