why is paint so hard ?

I know how to build and do everything in a house, except electricity. And painting fucking walls, apparently.
>buy premium extra thick paints bullshit to avoid doing 50 thousand passes
>still have to do multiple passes
>broke my fucking pole
>cleaned and sanded the walls, paint still cracks and comes off
>bought enough oaint for 144 squared meters, barely manage to do 70
what the fuck am I missing ?
am I retarded ?
how do people enjoy painting walls for a living ? is it the dullest job in the world ?
how do I get good ?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    have to do multiple passes
    my fucking pole
    Are you thinning your paint or something?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, I just put too much pressure on the roll, the paint refuses to be tamed and to go where I want it to go, I have to put pressure to spread it

      that's the first primer pass
      gonna kms, I hope I can unfuck it with the coat of actual paint

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/Xu9UWDC.jpg

        I know how to build and do everything in a house, except electricity. And painting fucking walls, apparently.
        >buy premium extra thick paints bullshit to avoid doing 50 thousand passes
        >still have to do multiple passes
        >broke my fucking pole
        >cleaned and sanded the walls, paint still cracks and comes off
        >bought enough oaint for 144 squared meters, barely manage to do 70
        what the fuck am I missing ?
        am I retarded ?
        how do people enjoy painting walls for a living ? is it the dullest job in the world ?
        how do I get good ?

        Did you wipe down the walls with a damp rag before painting?

        Are you painting with a drywall primer first? (PVA)

        Did you mix the paint before rolling it on?

        Seriously it should take little effort.
        >First day wipe all walls with damp towel to remove dust
        >Second day, prime with PVA primer, wait 30 min, paint first coat of latex based paint, wait 1-2 hours, paint second coat, done.

        Sanding between paint layers is a meme. you're painting a wall not a car.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          PVA primer is for brand new unpainted drywall, not general purpose painting.
          Also unless you are in the desert, doing primer + 2 topcoats in the space of 1.5- 2.5 hrs is a recipe for all kinds of problems from bubbles to uneven sheen to peeling the underlying coats as you roll and/or brush out over them.
          Your time management proposal of waiting overnight after washing is stupid ; if anything you prime one day and let it dry overnight and if conditions are right you * might* be able to push two coats the next day, but not 1-2 hours apart unless there's zero humidity and it's warm AF and you're spraying.

          You're also wrong about sanding in between- it may not be necessary 100% of the time and there's better things than sandpaper to do it with, but scuffing between coats and knocking down dust tits and gloss isn't just for cars and isn't just a meme.
          You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did you clean your walls after sanding and use primer? If not, kiss my ass!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yessssss
      fuck me I feel like I'm in limbo

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >use primer?
      If you're just repainting you do not need to prime interior walls or trim (or most exterior repaints either), and you can repaint with ordinary paint. Use a primer or blocker for water stains or other difficult stains like in a kitchen. If you are changing the color at all you will need two coats of paint, no matter what they claim.

      And remember that shot of black when you repaint a ceiling or white trim.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you need to use special pre paint cleaners, or are they a meme?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In some cases like kitchens where grease is an issue sanding alone isn't enough to prep for recoating.
        TSP acts both as a cleaner/ degreaser and also etches and softens existing paint for maximum adhesion/bonding when you paint within the proper time frame after using it.
        You may not *need* to do it with every situation but it's good insurance and saves lots of time where textures and grooves and such might trap and hide greasy/glossy spots that cause problems.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The paint is challenging your authority. Point a gun at it and swear a bunch. After that you can open carry as a reminder to the paint.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    painting is literally the easiest trade. Always thought it would be hard. tried it. outdoor, indoor, ceilings, anything
    all easy. Just get an even coat, give it a quick 2nd coat.
    mental retards could do it no idea why people fuck it up so much. messy cunts too, paint everywhere. over running edges.

    im convinced I can do any trade now with 2 weeks training

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know, that's why I'm infuriated

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >im convinced I can do any trade now with 2 weeks training

      Yes, anyone can. It's called apprenticing.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just hire a mexican, he'll run through with 5 of his cousins and paint your entire house perfectly in a single day for $500.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The biggest obstacle to quality painting results with any degree of reliability is impatience, period.
    There's nothing wrongvwith not having the patience to do it as methodically as needed for as long as it takes to know what you are doing, but if you don't and don't hire someone who has it's entirely on you when you get shitty results, and not the fault of the materials or the tools or the surface or anything else.

    The problem is compounded by the fact that marketers have a built in angle of catering to that impatience and create tools and materials that take you the exact opposite direction from where you get good results.
    Then when it all fails they offer another magic bullet.
    That may seem to contradict the part about not blaming the tools or materials, but the point is that you chose them for the wrong reasons and without understanding the tradeoffs that come from trying to cut corners and not put in the work.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not OP but I'm interested in painting some vertical exterior tiles. What's the best way to go about creating texture for the primer to hold?
    Or is it an overall terrible idea that I should scrap altogether?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What's the best way to go about creating texture for the primer to hold?
      Either mechanically (abrasive blast) or chemically etch them.
      >Or is it an overall terrible idea that I should scrap altogether?
      you dont say what kind of tiles...some substrate materials will hold paint better than others, and some coatings are more permanent...
      bottom line is that it can work but it will be an ongoing maintenance matter and if the surface is porous and can absorb water even the best most aggressive epoxy coatings may delaminate and peel/crack forcing you to start again from scratch.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Use more paint on the roller you cheap fuck

    Or get a roller with a heavier napp

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bro, your primer???

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all the painters I know can do their job while completely baked
    >somehow OP manages to fuck it up
    You must be buying the cheapest paint possible. I repainted my bathroom because the house is old and the dumb pattern they put on the walls looks both ugly and was peeling off after years. I tried using the paint the landlord provided and it was absolute garbage
    >3 layers and didn't do shit

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did you have the girl at the paint counter add the shot of black?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PrepHole has gone to shit if it took this long

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did you have the girl at the paint counter add the shot of black?

        https://duckduckgo.com/?q=shot+of+black

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PrepHole has gone to shit if it took this long

      https://i.imgur.com/IlRwrDv.jpg

      [...]
      https://duckduckgo.com/?q=shot+of+black

      shitty forced meme
      one like two fuckers actually think it's funny, and they take turns posting it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Welcome newfag.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    sage

    Cheap paint? Just did a room painted over dark blue with a latex green color and barely even needed a 2nd coat
    Latex paint seems so easy, only problem I saw was putting too much on
    Only wiped down the wall before hand and taped the trim, couldn't give a shit about sanding since I'm not autistic enough to care about slight bumps you can't even see 2 feet away

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP spent too much on paint and didn't buy Kilz

    Expensive paint is a meme, cheap paint works just fine since you need to do multiple coats anyway

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Load the rollers and wall up before you roll and you shouldn’t have to put so much pressure while rolling.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >extra thick paints bullshit cracks and comes off
    >bought enough oaint for 144 squared meters, still have to do multiple passes, barely manage to do 70
    Well here's your answer.

    >what the fuck am I missing ?
    Patience apparently. Painting walls is a long job no matter how you hurry, and if you can't even do one thing for an hour without flipping out you should probably visit a doctor to get whatever shit they give to hyperactive kids prescribed.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe you didn't prep well
    Maybe your nap is a poor choice
    Maybe your technique is trash

    Painting is both detail and labor. It's hard work, but if things aren't going smooth then you're doing something wrong. You will be punished every time for thinking you can race through the job. You're fucking up rolling walls, don't even think you can hang with the guys doing high end paint work.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I take all of your advice, I managed to get a somewhat clean coat of paint, while being very patient
      Painting is just unbearably dull, I don't get it

      next time I won't rush it as much, but I still don't get why I used so much primer, maybe my walls were too absorbant (there was concrete, brick, and drywall)

      >don't even think you can hang with the guys doing high end paint work.
      never said I could or even wanted

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