why is everybody running multicam

all the people i see posting here or on yt reviews run multicam even tho for the majority of environments a green based camo is better since multicam caters more to semi arid or desert, ofc it still works in forests or flatland plains but it doesnt seem a sensible choice for most people

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    multicam is the best all-terrain camo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      British MTP is better

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >MC
        >OCP
        >MTP

        >vanilla
        >french vanilla
        >vanilla custard

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        MTP doesn't work in Atlantic Heathlands ; politicians better not fuck up again in Northern Ireland. DPM was better in that regard.
        Still better than Centre-Europe, though : The large patches of tans stick out like a sore thumb in heathlands.
        Old Tiger Stripe works surprisingly well

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because it looks cool and the most likely place for me to get shot while wearing it is standing at my front door, so the particular pattern doesn't really matter.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its good enough and offering products in 50 different cooler esoteric patterns isn't viable for most manufacturers. Most people making shit don't want to make it Flecktarn and Alpenflage and M81 and Brushstroke and Tiger Stripe and Peadot and Jigsaw and so on.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this is a serious question and i want you to answer it seriously. what is the malfunction in your cognition that makes you incapable of understanding that 75%+ of the landmass on earth is not temperate deciduous forests? are midwesterners completely fucking retarded? even in temperate forests the understory is heavily influenced by brown colors. explain to me why you are incapable of understanding this concept.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      im aware of that but since larpers wont be projecting power overseas the place they live in will most likely be europe, the us, canada, australia, japan or korea, or se asia, or at most south america, and the majority of that is vegetated environment, either tropical, deciduous or coniferous, with some arid parts in the us and south america and south europe, so yes i stand by my statement

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Multicam is literally the best camo for every place you listed

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Multicam and multicam tropic
        ez

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >looks cool
    >the only camo pattern that every relevant manufacturer makes gear in

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i like paying more for my stuff just because of a brand name so that i can flex on poors

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So I can also wear it to field exercises

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I live inna high desert that's why. Also I wanna be able to join the stack on my own house.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Also I wanna be able to join the stack on my own house.
      This anon fucks

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because works very well in many environments, and works pretty well in almost every other environment. As much as SOVL fags bitch, its just objectively superior in practice to woodland/flecktarn/alpinflage/whatever niche shit they got their hands on in 2003

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not talking old camos, I compare it with other modern camos that fit a green environment better, such as pencott greenzone, concamo, atacs ix and fgx, dpm, marpat,

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And vegetato, Slocam,

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The woods aren't really a "green" environment, aside from rainforests and the deepest parts of tropical jungles.

        Unless you're in the canopy itself, you'll be mostly surrounded by browns with a bit of green foliage around you. IE multicam.

        But more importantly, remember than military camo isn't about blending in under scrutiny. That's what things like ghillie suits are for. Military camo is there to reduce your profile at distance, which is inherently easier in a forest with lots of cover.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I know but its full of dark brown, green, some light brown in autumn and winter and sone yellow sometimes, so dpm, penc green, marpat etc a better than multicam there

          Btw arktis has a bdu in digital dpm its so good

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    WW3 will be in Yurop

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wear Multicam Tropic when I hunt

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Looks cool
    >Works well
    >Usually the only camo pattern that gear comes in
    Usually the options are multicam, green, grey, black. If you want camo you get multicam.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It works better in forests than actual woodand patterns because they're all dark as shit and just blob up at distance.

    It works better in the great plains because have you seen them? Bright as he'll and actually mostly brown.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It works for corn fields, suburban lawns, and forest margins.

  15. 1 month ago
    BigC

    daily multicam seethe post
    seethe more

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm fairly confident that the Multicam passed trials in the U.S. to be fielded by the Army and literally everyone else saw "the-new-thing™" from American and chose to just copy it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      UK adopted MTP while US army was still in UCP

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      UK adopted MTP while US army was still in UCP

      Adoption by the U.S Army of a camo pattern means jackshit about its efficiency.
      Consider the UCP.

      France is just adopting BME (Bariolage Multi Environnement) after its own field trials, which is basically its own Multicam, blending MTP and Scorpion.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why did they adopt it?
        Same for UK.
        How did they come at this conclusion that they want it?
        Is it just 3 independent researches that came at the same conclusion or the later 2 were influenced by the first that adopted it?
        Or maybe they all 3 adopted it bc they do stuff overseas so they prefer having a general purpose camo?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Or maybe they all 3 adopted it bc they do stuff overseas so they prefer having a general purpose camo?
          This. For France, it's gonna be one pattern for the average travelling grunt, and another one for winter/arctic/alpine conditions (CE was not awful, but it was a shittier M81 Woodland)

          Also we are going to have a starking contrast between Multicam-like equipped NATO and Digicam-like Eastern Forces (China, Russia), easy friend-foe identification (CADPAT-MT becoming the last western digital pattern).

          Bonus reason for France to change camo : a shitton of surplus already in decomissoned/civilian hands, which if you plan on fighting domestic militias/full blown civil war in the nearby future is not a good thing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why does France plan on fighting internal militias?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    nobody here is running at all

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >why is everybody running multicam
    I'm not

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >running this
    >running that
    >running peepeepoopoo

    shut the fuck up, why do you talk like that? You're not "running" shit, it sits in your fucking closet

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's everyones opinion on multicam black?

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    do people not realize how mass adopted woodland and derivatives were adopted? retards bitch about muh guhloboh homo (read I’m a retard and don’t understand anything) but forgot how woodland was basically everywhere.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lol no globohomo talk here I'm just saying that in my opinion multicam isnt a good fit (but decent at least) for most of the envs that there are in Europe or the us/canada and theres lots of patterns that are better, and even this less widely available theres uf pro and artistic that make quilty clothes in other patterns
      Look Brent 0331 effectiveness video on multicam

      It can make sense for an army that doesnt know exactly were it will deploy so it uses a camo that works decently in the various envs they will be in, but still couldn't the us army just buy a set in multicam and one in a green/brown camo and issue just one and then when you deploy issue the other if needed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. Woodland was so widely adopted that if you say camo to the average normie 80% will describe woodland.

      Multicam is basically woodland camp without the excess black anyway.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like the image people have in mind for their LARP. It's all expensive toys anyhow, but if you enjoy the process you should bear in mind that masking IR is way more important than pattern.

    Next most important is breaking up the human silhouette without hindering movement. This will become more key as drone use steps up. Modern armor will move with drone screens overhead. If they don't have munitions they will still have autonomous detection to give operators of the tank or AFV a heads up to check out their feed. If you want to avoid getting blasted way out or a smart mortar getting fired at your position while you're half a mile out you'll do good to think about form.

    Those IDF helmet covers look gay as shit but are an increasingly good idea.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Attacking armored advances the way the Ukrainians were early in the war is going to become increasingly suicidal and futile against modernized militaries employing new tech and doctrine.

      The new way to hit them as light infantry won't be to wait by the road with an ATGM, it will be to hunker down under cover and scout for their advance by trying to detect coms transmissions and using drones. Cheap, small dirigibles offer a means of having extremely long loiter time. Hell, strap a solar panel on them and you can keep them up there and live a decent amount of time.

      When you spot an advance you'll pop out of cover and fire off some loitering munitions from a few miles away while their operators stay hunkered down.

      Your classic ambush might still work in some settings, but it'll be tough in open areas. If you have the resources, it would be better to seed and area with ATGM "mines" that can have targeting data sent to them by light UAVs and can remain buried save an antenna until there is shit to hit.

      Places with heavy tree cover will be better for ambushes but long term, 10-30 years out, little shits like pic related will be able to swarm beneath the canopy and pick up movement and signatures.

      Comms jamming a using signals for targeting will become a bigger deal as networked battle spaces become a full reality I'm sure.

      How useless infantry becomes will depend on how good autonomous threat detection gets. Work with adversarial networks and Bayseian frameworks doesn't make it look good for people though. It could get really easy for the eyes buzzing around the sky to pick out targets with advances in "AI," especially with full EM spectrum sensors.

      But infantry will still have a role even into 2100 I'd imagine. Getting a drone to drive or fly itself around, spot targets, discriminate the right ones, and shoot them, is still light years from any sort of abstract real thinking about mission goals and how best to use those capabilities in an operation.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because it just works

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I basically just do whatever is cheap and popular. Sometimes I see a post about some random piece of kit on PrepHole and I immediately run to Amazon to buy the $20 Chinese version of it. And I don't even larp it all just goes into the closet never to be seen again

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Flektarn is the best in the southeast US forests

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe in the summer, in Winter you better be running something brown as fuck.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all the people i see posting here or on yt reviews run multicam
    I tried to have woodland or real tree gear, but nothing I wanted was in that pattern. Only mutt-cam, Ranger Green and Black. I was forced into multicam for parity's sake. Do you want a tan helmet, a green plate carrier and black clothing underneath? That would be stupid. Style and utility trumps your personal taste here my friend.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone else feel like camo as a concept is a meme?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you've let the ongoing Slavic Special Needs Shitfest influence your ideas of western warfare, then you got memed hard. What you're witnessing is generations of retardation finally playing out on a grand scale with their retarded descendants taking the fall.
      Camo does work to an extent at concealing you, it's usually a matter of the right pattern for the right place, which most militaries don't seem to like the idea of since that requires them to maintain a diverse arsenal of shit. I maintain that most reasons why militaries shift away from camo and replace them isn't because said camo somehow became less effective or that we can do better now, it's because they buy into the "one thing for every situation" meme (which is partly due to money saving too). You'll never have a camo pattern that's actually good for every environment like they want, the jack of all trades is the master of none. UCP is fucking dogshit and that was meant to work for everything. OCP is less shit but it's not as good for everything, and clearly favors certain environments more than others. Universal camo is a meme concept, but camo itself is a real and useful application when used right.
      In urban combat sure, camo kinda isn't going to work. Urban environments aren't like the randomness of nature that you can try to blend in with, so you'll probably just be best off with some flat colors. But I've seen pictures where it took me an actual minute to find the camouflaged dude with a gun aimed at the camera. If it was a real battlefield I would be dead before I saw him. I don't have the one I'm thinking of saved, but there's plenty of them out there, I advise you look at some and see how legitimately useful it is.
      Pic kinda related, this one's mostly autism.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's what I still have from the U.S. Army, and besides Multicam, I have OD and Ranger Green. Not to mention in any environment you are taking foliage from around you and adding it to your kit to help blend in.

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