why has there been an uptick in the number of Shaheds being found fully intact

electronic warfare? i thought these things used INS. also could it just be these ones suffered a malfunction and crashed. only that we're seeing more of them now because russia fires so many

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    another

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/55sf9Tc.jpg

      one more

      These Slavs are so horrible at the intelligence game. Yeah let's post pics online of us all posing with the unexploded ordnance. What's stopping the enemy from rigging things to explode that are tempting to take selfies with? They could set up a trap to take out 4+ of them right there.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sneed drone isn't rated to work in cold weather

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is there an uptick?

      >Icing in flight
      Interesting theory.

      Russia started making them

      LMAO.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    one more

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    didn't zelensky do a video where he stood next to one when Russia had just started using them? I feel like they probably have a high failure rate in the first place

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My cat showing me the mouse they killed

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My cat showing me the mouse they killed

        I kek.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          My cat showing me the mouse they killed

          >here is gift
          >please give me cuddles and food
          my god zelensky is a house cat

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He's that annoying house cat which won't stop whining until you feed it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              to be fair he is starving and we're dangling a packet of F-16s in front of him

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                biden keeps shaking the ABCT bag and he's just getting sick of it now while the cat next door is so fat on shitty cheap food he can barely walk. makes sense honestly.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >we're dangling a packet of F-16s in front of him
                America is providing zero F-16

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I am from PrepHole and what in the FRICK is going on with that joinery on the right
          Bolts AND screws?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >bolts for take down
            >screws for stability
            anon probably built it with the bolts first and left space for screws if it was wobbly

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the joinery is on the left

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Aww good kitty good kitty who’s a good boy awww pspspspsp good boy did you catch that hello hello aww kitty would you like my spare glock 19 so you can kill all the rest of the mice?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >pspspspsp

            who tf says this to cats? Are you a Fingol?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          GOOD CAT

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the strongest manlet in the world

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        theworstneighbourintheworld.jpg

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russia started making them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      unironically this, Iranians have a long history of decently successful reverse engineering, unlike perpetually drunk unknown technology cavemen

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cheap disposable small 2 cycle motors do not like cold wet weather. Wouldn't be surprised if the failure rat was due to shit motors.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah if the cooling fins were designed for Iranian summer (reminder that the highest temperatures ever measured were likely in an Iranian desert) the engines will be running much too cold in sub-freezing temps.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >were likely
        wat

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          IIRC it was a kinda coincidental reading from a satellite that was not originally designed to do those kinds of measurements but still got it right most of the times. It was over 70°C in the shade.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wrap some tape around half the fins?
        Are they that moronic? You'd think they'd know how to run shitty engines in winter.
        >imagine paying $13.5k for this shit
        They were selling for a few hundred American pesos before the happening

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >They were selling for a few hundred American pesos before the happening
          [expresses doubt]

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >damage drone with AAA/small arms
    >drones falls on the ground
    >drone doesn't explode because warhead doesn't arm until it enters target area
    >...
    >profit!

    Its consequences of Ukrainians employing mass numbers of mobile HMG teams to shoot down drones.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >drone doesn't explode because warhead doesn't arm until it enters target area
      thinking that shitskins or puccia has tech in it that activates the warhead at xyz location instead of instantly armed on launch

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >puccia has tech in it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          let's be real you don't need the lastet and greatest tech to make these things work or they aren't hard to come by

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >lastet and greatest tech
            russian wunderwaffle, inside is the cheapest china crap

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I want Ukies to refit some Shaheds, send them back against Russian targets, and Russian air defense to start shooting them down just in case.

    >WAR CRI-
    Proofs they aren't Russian? Or maybe it's the perfidious Persians trying to undermine their """ally"""? :^)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That would be hilarious.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If Ignat is to believed, Ukraine has stepped up their EW game. While I feel that in missiles case it is easy cope (yeah, we don't shoot all of them but a decent chunk get jammed), for the mopeds it seems a lot more possible.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >manufactured in iran
    >works perfectly
    >manufactured in russia
    >starts failing en masse
    pottery

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      in iran
      perfectly
      in russia
      failing en masse
      >pottery
      mullah are scum but vatBlack folk can only make garbage now

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Persians are a decently competent race, held back entirely by Islam and making themselves adversaries of the USA. They'd be the Germans of the Middle East if the Revolution hadn't happened.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          And whose fault was it that the Revolution happened? British Petroleum. If only the West knew when to rein in their greedy corpos.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The perfidious albion strikes again.
            To be fair though, it was mostly their moronic leader, his corrupt cronies and the baseline islamism of the rural population that brought them down.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The Shah did nothing wrong.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >And whose fault was it that the Revolution happened?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I...I honestly do not know who he's talking about.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You know in your heart because you know exactly who /misc/ would be screeching about. DA ______!!!one!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            weak characters never take ownership of their shortcomings.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They're mostly outbred by islamic invaders, pure blood persians areabout 5 million left

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >gib gibs and sell shit to turdies so they can attack the west for moar shit
          EVERY SINGLE TIME
          When will you morons learn?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because Shaheds built in Volgograd by trafficked african female slave labour apparently have some QC issues.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    GPS jamming and GPS spoofing making it fly around never reaching its target until it runs out of fuel.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If Ignat is to believed, Ukraine has stepped up their EW game. While I feel that in missiles case it is easy cope (yeah, we don't shoot all of them but a decent chunk get jammed), for the mopeds it seems a lot more possible.

      i thought they have INS?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, the single most expensive component of a Shaheed is an 8 core high precision Motorola GPS receiver. These receivers are the number one way to tell that the mythical $20,000 Shaheed is a myth, as it costs almost $16,000 on its own, for people who aren’t sanctioned. For the sanction dodging Iranians buying them with several middlemen between them and Motorola, it’s probably at least 50% more than that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A variety of GPS systems have been used at different times, but no, never an INS system.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they're made by sleep-deprived teenagers in Tatarstan
    https://protokol.band/2023/07/03/alabuga-iranskie-drony/

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >why has there been an uptick in the number of Shaheds being found fully intact

    this is what russia would like to know

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ew has been getting better,

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shaheds apparently have a simple but somewhat effective way to negate jamming.
    >loose GPS signal
    >keep flying in a straight line until you are out of the jammed area
    >set course for the target again
    The upside is that it's cheap.
    The downside is that if your target is in the jammed area they just keep flying back and forth until they run out of fuel.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so it has nothing against spoofing?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Apparently not.
        I'm not a knower, but I can't see how it would counter spoofing without a secondary independent navigation system.

  17. 1 month ago
    äää

    the black carbon-fibre shaheds involve more russian graft and incompetence than the regular ones. they're also being flown at night, at colder temperatures and in worse weather. and since someone managed to convince the russian MOD that the black ones are stealth, they're also being flown in erratic patterns. this change in tactics was introduced in late december and now it's widespread.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's can't fly below 0c without freezing up or building up ice on wings. Lol

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When the Ukies first took apart crashed Shaheeds they found that the GPS units had been replaced with GLONASS. I assume that was because the civilian-grade GPS that Iran had access to wouldn’t have the hardening against frickery I assume GLONASS’ military application would(?) have. But that was back before they started mass-producing them so who knows maybe they just stuck with the Iranian GPS because they’re short on electronics for making GLONASS modules. I read their electronics imports had reached pre-war level thanks to evading sanctions BUT we’re talking about production WAY beyond pre-war levels.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >i thought these things used INS
    AFAIK they actually use GPS

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty good shot build quality is getting notably worse as this goes on. Safe bet that the lion's share of Russian made shaheds made before sanctions were already launched. Now they're launching more Iranian and post-sanction Russian builds that might as well be using potatoes wired together for a computer including "IT'S BLACK SO IT'S STEALTH!" versions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's black to be less easy to notice visually when they send waves of them at night

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's obvious but I wouldn't even be the slightest bit shocked if they really did think black makes it so radar can't see it either.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >air force and army drone squadrons not understanding how radars work
          Anon, the Russians aren’t cartoon villains.
          The only reason any of these drones are getting made is because the Russians are clearly pretty adept at sanction dodging with complicit western companies by the assload.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the Russians are not cartoon villains
            They sure are trying to be. I don't doubt there's some smart people still there but they're horribly outnumbered by slavebrains that just want to be able to tell daddy Putin they did something amazing for headpats (plz no send to front).

            I'd wager continued production is more reliant on the same sort of product shuffling/laundering Iran does, China, and heavy corner cutting. The first shahed they made is probably significantly higher quality than the ones being made today. Western part flow is guaranteed very slow because shuffling does that. Chinese parts have to avoid notice and get from eastern Russia to the factories MUCH farther west which can be fricked by saboteurs anywhere along the rail lines. If quality isn't dropping then the number made must be.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Anon, this isn’t 1939. There are regular cargo flights to and from China. Not to mention Russia is by most definitions a police state; ergo, the only people touching those railways would be corrupt officials not some kind of meme saboteur LARP.

              If Sneed drones are dropping in quality it’ll because they’ve gone down the route of mass production over quality control, not because suddenly 2 and a half years into the war the sanctooons have taken their devastating effect. It’s literally just a flying lawnmower with an HEAT warhead after all.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the only people touching those railways would be corrupt officials not some kind of meme saboteur LARP.
                Are we already memory holing it? Really?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Did you already forget that Ukrainian saboteurs blew up some important rail lines impacting Nork garbage shipments?

                It's a safe bet the Russians had a parts stockpile put together before sanctions. As the war goes on they use those parts in various products like drones and tanks. As those parts are used they need to replace them one way or another or even go without the system that needs that part. Previous stocks are one of the many ways sanctions can look like they're taking longer than they actually are to have an effect. Bootleg parts often lead to notably subpar quality and smuggling is slow. Also, a freight train can carry WAY more freight than aircraft can per sitting. Rail freight is still absolutely critical to Russia which is why the Ukies even bothered hitting it.

                >the only people touching those railways would be corrupt officials not some kind of meme saboteur LARP.
                Are we already memory holing it? Really?

                Well, a least we know who we're talking to right? lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The Russians had a 2 + year parts stockpile for a drone they hadn’t even been manufacturing pre war?
                It sounds like there’s a narrative of Russian incompetence you want to push here that just isn’t adding up.

                The sneed is, once again, a flying Iranian lawnmower you could make with parts from a dishwasher.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He was clearly saying that they were stockpiling various electronic parts before the sanctions hit and have had to jury rig and modify things as the war went on. Also the Shahed is not something you can make with "parts from a dishwasher" you stupid frick.
                >The Russian-manufactured Geran-2 is believed to have a "state-of-art antenna interference suppression" system that suppresses jamming of the GNSS position signal, designed by Iran using seven transceivers for input and an FPGA and three microcontrollers to analyse and suppress any electronic warfare emissions.[38]
                Does your dishwasher have an FPGA? No? Shut your mouth.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thank you for saving me some time anon.

    • 1 month ago
      äää

      pre-sanctions, russia-made shaheds don't exist. their closest domestic analogue that predates 2022 is zala's kub / kub-bla.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >why has there been an uptick in the number of Shaheds being found fully intact
    is this a trick question?
    russians are using them, one of the very few human populations ever recorded to become measurably stupider in 2 generations
    https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3417/11/13/5864

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why has there been an downtick in the number of ukrainian advances or strategic successes? at this rate the war won't ever be over in 2 weeks 🙂

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because the Ukrainians are smart enough to realize sending wave after wave through defended minefields is stupid.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >second army in the world can occupy 10% of an Eastern European shithole and that’s something to brag about.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why do they need to? Russia will continue to slam it's face into a brick wall and eventually spend itself to the point of being incapable of fighting off the Ukrainians. Russia cannot advance without horrific casualties and their gains are measured in meters and will absolutely expend themselves before the Ukrainians run out of men and equipment. All Ukraine has to do is hold the lines.

    I know you /misc/acks aren't the brightest to begin with but you really have zero understanding of strategy and warfare.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >3.5
    Good thing they’re attriting more than twice that per Ukrainian

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      proof?

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So Ukraine only has to kill 3.6 Russians per Ukrainian lost. Thing is they're probably doing better than that by a notable margin. They've adopted a clearly solid defensive doctrine while the Russians just keep sending death marches at the lines and gloating about moving the lines forward a few meters. The way the Russians are running their side of the war is hilariously bad and comes with obscene casualties so bad any western military would have stopped and tried something else. At this point I'd expect the norks to have better doctrine than the Russians.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Russians
    >competent engineering
    >being human

    kek.

    >Depleted foreign reserves
    >Vatnik central bank aggressively hiking interest rates and it's not even working

    Almost 2 years of an operation that supposed to be over in days.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nta but Forbes says Russia loses 14 vehicles to every Ukrainian vehicle lost. If you extrapolate that to all casualties, even ignoring that Russians are likely to kill themselves even injured while Ukrainians actually attempt MEDEVAC/CASEVAC, the picture looks grim for Russia
    Oryx has a far more conservative estimate of about 3:1 Russian vehicles lost to every Ukrainian vehicle

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Do you really need more? Is it really so hard for you to believe with all the footage showing exactly how Russia is fighting the war? How many videos of armored columns and infantry charges getting obliterated do you need? How many photos of fields full of dead mobiks? Also look at the lines. They're not moving even though Russia is pulling so many large (and costly) attacks. This means Ukraine's defense is effective and working. Turns out when you charge heavily defended lines you lose a lot of people and equipment. The Ukrainian numbers are believable for a reason. The Ukrainians learned that lesson last spring after running into the one legitimately smart thing the Russians have done so far, the minefield. The Russians on the other hand refuse to learn the same lesson and it's costing them. If nothing major changes in Russia's favor there is no path to victory for them, which is why they so desperately hope foreign aid gets cut off.

    How this is going for Russia might as well be a great big neon sign flashing over the battlefield but you idiots just can't figure it out because you're worshipers, not thinkers, and again, you have no understanding of strategy or warfare.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >i thought these things used INS
    Good IMU is more expensive than the entire drone and you would need something like optical TERCOM anyway to be accurate after a multi hour long flight

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reverse engineer, repurpose, return fire.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    are you going to post this in every thread? what are you hoping to achieve?

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