Pretty much. Britain has an ingrained problem of refusing short term disruptions to enable long term profits. It got even worse with the EU membership and unmitigated migration since automation was starting to catch up from the 90s until the mid 00s when we got all the subhuman labour we needed from the third world and then massive numbers of Polacks/Romanians that made it profitable to run on systems designed in the 60s through minimum wage labour.
The only places that didn't really fall for this was MIC and Aerospace due to the inherent competitiveness and required capability/security issues.
I only know aviation and automotive/motorcycle British stuff, but I'd assume the same tracks for everything else. Look of the history of British automotive/motor companies, and it's just never ending bankruptcies and mergers and sales and mergers and sales until you reach the point that nothing historically British is British anymore even if the name carries on. All their luxury cars are German owned, hell Ford owned a big chunk of it for awhile, Indians own some of it. I don't know what causes this, but it's something I've just observed researching Post War Britain. Hell, the iconic Mini was made by how many different brands before it went out of production?
80s? Fuck try since the 50s. Multiple broke governments have cut spending for decades for military research and development in the UK.
The 1957 defence white paper gutted the UKs aviation industry. Aviation companies folding, leading to a huge brain drain in Britain. The 80s were just a culmination of that.
1) Money, money, money. Since WW2 we've been happy to outsource most of our defense to NATO (i.e. to the US taxpayer) and spend most of our public money on social shit.
Despite that
2) Considering the size of Britain as a country, and the British population, the British MIC (and economy in general) is still operating orders of magnitude better than it ought to.
>Considering the size of Britain as a country, and the British population, the British MIC (and economy in general) is still operating orders of magnitude better than it ought to
/thread
>gutted the sate industry
You misspelled introduced trickle down economics. Glory to the Tories, and God save Baroness Thatcher.
It hasn't. It's been lacking since the 80s since the UK government gutted the entire state owned industry and sold it off.
True, but Americans feel they need to trash Britain as often as possible. It makes the little post-colonial dears feel a little better for a few minutes each time they do it.
Americans by and large don't think about the British at all.
Now and then we get something about your totals on the news or Prince Harry and Megan markle and that's about it.
The British MIC is one of the few examples of a relatively open free market in the defence sector, with the obsessiveness over chasing "value for money". Naturally not good for local industry. Even the US is far more restrictive and it took BAE opening a US branch under an American executive just to enter their market.
Because the British government chose to commit geopolitical suicide which resulted in massive war debt that destroyed the empire and the turning of most of Europe into American puppet states instead of having peace with Germany
They make some decent stuff for people who can't afford German. I have kef speakers and a briefcase from a UK company that is nice. Range Rovers are ok.
They used to make the best steel in the world.
Because Britain itself has been a sinking ship since the end of WW2, they never really bounced back. Anybody worth a shit leaves, likely for the US. Those which remains produce mediocrity. I suspect the core issue lies in bureaucracy, if bongs are given the opportunity to think too much about something; theyll fuck it up. The Supacat MRAPs are apparently solid, well liked and successfully exported to several countries, and I think those stand alone as one of their only successful domestic designs specifically because it was an UOR; so its production was fastracked and streamlined. Similarly, the Arctic Warfare rifles were good specifically because they were designed by two guys with zero oversight. Inversely, the Ajax has languished between several trials and committees and is appropriately a comical overbudget fuckup on every level.
Americans by and large don't think about the British at all.
Now and then we get something about your totals on the news or Prince Harry and Megan markle and that's about it.
I only know aviation and automotive/motorcycle British stuff, but I'd assume the same tracks for everything else. Look of the history of British automotive/motor companies, and it's just never ending bankruptcies and mergers and sales and mergers and sales until you reach the point that nothing historically British is British anymore even if the name carries on. All their luxury cars are German owned, hell Ford owned a big chunk of it for awhile, Indians own some of it. I don't know what causes this, but it's something I've just observed researching Post War Britain. Hell, the iconic Mini was made by how many different brands before it went out of production?
Pretty much. Britain has an ingrained problem of refusing short term disruptions to enable long term profits. It got even worse with the EU membership and unmitigated migration since automation was starting to catch up from the 90s until the mid 00s when we got all the subhuman labour we needed from the third world and then massive numbers of Polacks/Romanians that made it profitable to run on systems designed in the 60s through minimum wage labour.
The only places that didn't really fall for this was MIC and Aerospace due to the inherent competitiveness and required capability/security issues.
???
So you don't understand what that means, on top of being retardedly British.
You're like picrelated, a soft, feminine stereotype wading into an unfamiliar jungle waiting to be touched.
>Anybody worth a shit leaves, likely for the US.
That's interesting you say that because every Brit I've met here has been some high performer that makes me feel like an idiot, but online all I see are Norf FC memes when people talk about Britain.
Because the British empire has been in decline since world war one and is now basically just a vassal state of the American empire that comes along for the ride when they go shoot third worlders. The fact that they manage to be militarily competent is actually pretty impressive when you remember that they went from controlling a quarter of the world to just their home islands plus a few remote tax havens.
the whole country has been lacking, arguably MIC outperformed the rest of it
Pretty much. Britain has an ingrained problem of refusing short term disruptions to enable long term profits. It got even worse with the EU membership and unmitigated migration since automation was starting to catch up from the 90s until the mid 00s when we got all the subhuman labour we needed from the third world and then massive numbers of Polacks/Romanians that made it profitable to run on systems designed in the 60s through minimum wage labour.
The only places that didn't really fall for this was MIC and Aerospace due to the inherent competitiveness and required capability/security issues.
The EU was the best think to happen to the UK in the last 80 years you dumb fuck.
I only know aviation and automotive/motorcycle British stuff, but I'd assume the same tracks for everything else. Look of the history of British automotive/motor companies, and it's just never ending bankruptcies and mergers and sales and mergers and sales until you reach the point that nothing historically British is British anymore even if the name carries on. All their luxury cars are German owned, hell Ford owned a big chunk of it for awhile, Indians own some of it. I don't know what causes this, but it's something I've just observed researching Post War Britain. Hell, the iconic Mini was made by how many different brands before it went out of production?
It hasn't. It's been lacking since the 80s since the UK government gutted the entire state owned industry and sold it off.
>gutted the sate industry
You misspelled introduced trickle down economics. Glory to the Tories, and God save Baroness Thatcher.
80s? Fuck try since the 50s. Multiple broke governments have cut spending for decades for military research and development in the UK.
The 1957 defence white paper gutted the UKs aviation industry. Aviation companies folding, leading to a huge brain drain in Britain. The 80s were just a culmination of that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_Defence_White_Paper
Fuck off, farthuffer. Don't pretend this isn't all you.
money
> navy
> flies
Managed decline.
1) Money, money, money. Since WW2 we've been happy to outsource most of our defense to NATO (i.e. to the US taxpayer) and spend most of our public money on social shit.
Despite that
2) Considering the size of Britain as a country, and the British population, the British MIC (and economy in general) is still operating orders of magnitude better than it ought to.
>Considering the size of Britain as a country, and the British population, the British MIC (and economy in general) is still operating orders of magnitude better than it ought to
/thread
Couldn't fucking afford to keep it, morons
They buy american, simple as.
Isn't the Astute submarine a world-class hunter killer? That's all an island needs along with SSBNs.
True, but Americans feel they need to trash Britain as often as possible. It makes the little post-colonial dears feel a little better for a few minutes each time they do it.
Americans by and large don't think about the British at all.
Now and then we get something about your totals on the news or Prince Harry and Megan markle and that's about it.
The British MIC is one of the few examples of a relatively open free market in the defence sector, with the obsessiveness over chasing "value for money". Naturally not good for local industry. Even the US is far more restrictive and it took BAE opening a US branch under an American executive just to enter their market.
Because the British government chose to commit geopolitical suicide which resulted in massive war debt that destroyed the empire and the turning of most of Europe into American puppet states instead of having peace with Germany
Yeah because having a unified hostile Europe would be great for their geopolitcal situation.
I mean the British are still paying their war bills from WW2 and the NAPOLEONIC WARS.
These guys are strapped for cash.
Source?
When was the last time anything good came from this country?
Can’t think of a single product or service in my life that has come from there. UK might as well be another african country.
They make some decent stuff for people who can't afford German. I have kef speakers and a briefcase from a UK company that is nice. Range Rovers are ok.
They used to make the best steel in the world.
They let neoliberals have their way, which killed their entire industry and the rest that was left was bought by the Chinese, Germans and pajeets.
Their cuck mentality of following the US foreign policy doesn't help either.
>warriortard cope thread
Russia lost
Because Britain itself has been a sinking ship since the end of WW2, they never really bounced back. Anybody worth a shit leaves, likely for the US. Those which remains produce mediocrity. I suspect the core issue lies in bureaucracy, if bongs are given the opportunity to think too much about something; theyll fuck it up. The Supacat MRAPs are apparently solid, well liked and successfully exported to several countries, and I think those stand alone as one of their only successful domestic designs specifically because it was an UOR; so its production was fastracked and streamlined. Similarly, the Arctic Warfare rifles were good specifically because they were designed by two guys with zero oversight. Inversely, the Ajax has languished between several trials and committees and is appropriately a comical overbudget fuckup on every level.
60 iq nagger
Before projecting yourself, don't type like retards do
>Sperg has sperg attack for no explicable reason
>Schizo sperg is projecting itself for being in a state of sperg
Can you elaborate on what "reddit typing" even is here?
inb4 no.
When you think reddit spacing is real and/or got dropped plenty of times on the ground
uh oh
stinky
???
So you don't understand what that means, on top of being retardedly British.
You're like picrelated, a soft, feminine stereotype wading into an unfamiliar jungle waiting to be touched.
>Anybody worth a shit leaves, likely for the US.
That's interesting you say that because every Brit I've met here has been some high performer that makes me feel like an idiot, but online all I see are Norf FC memes when people talk about Britain.
Empire falling apart, dying economy and industry and falling behind its former colonies (USA, India etc).
>British military spending during the Korean War
>~10% gdp
>Spending During Falklands War
>~5.5%
>Spending at the end of the Cold War
>~4%
>Spending now
>~2%
Well in WW2 they were this now they are just an island for starters.
They lost the economies of scale needed for it.
Intense competition. Same reason the US had dozens of major defense firms 60 years ago and only a handful today.
Because the British empire has been in decline since world war one and is now basically just a vassal state of the American empire that comes along for the ride when they go shoot third worlders. The fact that they manage to be militarily competent is actually pretty impressive when you remember that they went from controlling a quarter of the world to just their home islands plus a few remote tax havens.