because they're poor dumb morons with nothing else? what kind of stupid question is this? ask yourself why they don't use submarines and helicopters and battleships...because they're literal monkeys who don't have those things
The hohls have been tripping over their own feet up and down the line and loosing ground, NAFO is doing a lot of try and distract from that so we get threads like this one.
They do use large tankers as some sort of motherships, but if you're talking about larger combat ships then it's the same reason taliban/isis etc doesn't use their captured tanks: it simply doesn't fit their guerilla doctrine, they're too easy to spot
Why in the name of absolute fuck do you think they'd know how to effectively operate those? Secondly, I want you to tell me what they would gain from having big, conHispanicuous assets for their globally condemned operations.
They do but they don't attack with them, they're mother-ships for the speedboats and nearly always over the horizon so that they don't get taken by some navy. They're usually converted or stolen trawlers and similar vessels.
They wouldn't be useful on offense, it's not like they have deck guns or anything (and pirate doctrine requires switching to civilian mode when challenged by navies so anything you can't throw overboard is verboten) and the speedboats are fine against ships that are undefended or unawares. I don't know whether they'd have the speed to catch a freighter that's trying to zoom through pirate waters either.
The average light container ship is doing 20-25knots, some are up to 30 and a shipping company might prioritise fast container ships for those waters. Bulk carriers are way slower at 12-15knots but a fishing trawler isn't any faster than the bulk carrier, 15knots would be a fast trawler.
Speedboats can cruise at 25knots and easily do 40 knots, a good one will do 80knots in light seas.
So what heavier vessel would you want to use in the attack?
>Be captain inna cargo ship >pirates come up >they have AKs and a few RPGs >they demand you lower some rope ladders for them to scale up the side of your ship and board you
Literally what is stopping you from just floating away. The fuck are they gonna do? poke some tiny holes in your 30,000 ton ship?
The problem with RPG-ing a freighter is that once that happens. Operation Ocean Shield II happens and the entire world gets together to fuck yout shit up.
The hohls have been tripping over their own feet up and down the line and loosing ground, NAFO is doing a lot of try and distract from that so we get threads like this one.
>That was just a probe >More probing >We're probing so much >With all this probing info vatnicks are sooo done when the REAL counter offensive begins in two weeks
Do you have any idea of how few people work on a cargo ship? Or how little they are paid? It's like a gas station; the staff is paid in pennies, the company don't give a shit about them, and you expect them to actually defend the station or ship? If the company loses the unit they lose their job, but the necessary two weeks off to nurse the wound they got defending it will be unpaid.
Theres a ton of different jobs on mid/long haul cargo that pay like $20-$50+ usd an hour. Hardly pennies by most metrics. Extra if you're going through danger zones. Additionally they'll often hire extra security if there's significant cause, it wouldn't be a deck hands job to repel boarders. Hiring 7 or 8 guys and buying a few AK's and a couple crates of ammo to defend anywhere between like $50,000,000 to $500,000,000 in assets on a cargo ship is fucking peanuts.
Your nuts if you'd let psycho bro Islamic pirates take you without a fight. You'd end up chained in the wheel house buck broken on an hourly basis until you bleed out your bussy fuck that Gay shit sir.
Yeah right. Sure the pirates would damage the goods they were selling back to the shipping companies. As if they werent getting all the warm bodies they wanted from the locals, what with being the only actual money earners in the village. But, I guess everyone has a fantasy.
We use high pressure hoses, water cannons and barbed wire to keep them off. Some companies have outfitted their ships with sonic cannons and other fancy stuff but I've never seen them in person. In some routes, like ones that pass off the Somali coast, they hire security contractors that shoot the pirates when they get close. They don't do that everywhere though. In Nigeria for example, they have a law that only allows native Nigerian security personnel on board and most companies and crews would rather gamble with makeshift defenses than allowing incompetent at best and malicious at worse people to guard the ship and crew. Other than that, even if they do manage to come onboard, we barricade ourselves in the "citadel" which is usually the engine room or the steering gear room and they can't get in or seize control of the ship so they still some personal items from our cabins and shoot up the place in anger and fuck off. Crews that are taken hostage usually fucked up somewhere in the process.
Just cut the hook lines lmao
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Is that why the russians are losing robotnik?
Aks
Piracy has been massively decreasing though because a couple of cheap mercs or even armed crew with ARs from an elevated position can wipe out an entire boat of pirates before they can even realize whats happening, so theyve been doing that. A little open pirate boat is basically a sitting duck against anyone actually willing to fight back. Once again self defense wins the day
Something real large gets picked up by satellites. Anything that would be a remote threat on a firepower level would be immediately targeted by the US for destruction.
Pirates only get to be pirates by looking like they could be random fisherman until they start shooting.
Why don't we just hire privateers to go around sinking pirate ships and/or chinese fishing vessals which are basically the same thing but targeting the ocean stocks of fish instead of merchant shipping
Its captain planet-villain shit and needs to be stopped, China is basically an alien infestation on our world that is trying to strip it of all life to the point of self-destruction.
>Its captain planet-villain shit and needs to be stopped
No argument there but saying it's the same thing as dirt poor somalis being financed by rich somalis who escaped to Europe to hijack cargo ships and their crew is just nonsensical.
One is organised crime born out of poverty and lawlessness.
The other is literally a state actor performing hybrid warfare for both profit and long-term environmental advantage for their home waters and using both naval and merchant navy assets to do it.
>The other is literally a state actor performing hybrid warfare for both profit and long-term environmental advantage for their home waters and using both naval and merchant navy assets to do it.
>Why don't some of the most poor, retarded human beings on the planet just use things they don't have???
Are you genuinely this fucking stupid OP or are you bored?
because they're poor dumb morons with nothing else? what kind of stupid question is this? ask yourself why they don't use submarines and helicopters and battleships...because they're literal monkeys who don't have those things
And that's as far as I need to read on this thread
Awful lot of slide threads lately
And mods are deleting actual combat footage of russians dying but letting these retarded threads around.
Yeah, must have been another failed offensive push
The hohls have been tripping over their own feet up and down the line and loosing ground, NAFO is doing a lot of try and distract from that so we get threads like this one.
>Muh slide threads
What's being slid Rickey Retardo? Go on post the vital thread that was bumped down the catalogue by this.
>why dont pirates use larger ships at all?
money
>Awful lot of slide threads lately
yup russia is loosing embarrassingly somehow again I guess
Dumb threads like this have always been normal you fucking tourist.
i just like modern piracy, i wish there were more cases of it.
anyone who says shit like this really should clarify what topic is being slid. if its ukraine, threads only pop up if something interesting happens.
They do use large tankers as some sort of motherships, but if you're talking about larger combat ships then it's the same reason taliban/isis etc doesn't use their captured tanks: it simply doesn't fit their guerilla doctrine, they're too easy to spot
I was mainly thinking fishing trawlers/tankers
Why in the name of absolute fuck do you think they'd know how to effectively operate those? Secondly, I want you to tell me what they would gain from having big, conHispanicuous assets for their globally condemned operations.
They do but they don't attack with them, they're mother-ships for the speedboats and nearly always over the horizon so that they don't get taken by some navy. They're usually converted or stolen trawlers and similar vessels.
They wouldn't be useful on offense, it's not like they have deck guns or anything (and pirate doctrine requires switching to civilian mode when challenged by navies so anything you can't throw overboard is verboten) and the speedboats are fine against ships that are undefended or unawares. I don't know whether they'd have the speed to catch a freighter that's trying to zoom through pirate waters either.
The average light container ship is doing 20-25knots, some are up to 30 and a shipping company might prioritise fast container ships for those waters. Bulk carriers are way slower at 12-15knots but a fishing trawler isn't any faster than the bulk carrier, 15knots would be a fast trawler.
Speedboats can cruise at 25knots and easily do 40 knots, a good one will do 80knots in light seas.
So what heavier vessel would you want to use in the attack?
they need a beefed up toyota hilux of the sea.
>Be captain inna cargo ship
>pirates come up
>they have AKs and a few RPGs
>they demand you lower some rope ladders for them to scale up the side of your ship and board you
Literally what is stopping you from just floating away. The fuck are they gonna do? poke some tiny holes in your 30,000 ton ship?
The toss up grappling hooks and scale the side of the ship.
Just throw them back overboard
The rails are being suppressed by AKs, or will be if you try anything.
They also try and not be seen, at least at first.
I wonder if they can keep hedge trimmers or extra long bolt curtters on board for cutting lines without getting too close.
And an RPG round in your hull is no bueno for some types of cargo.
The problem with RPG-ing a freighter is that once that happens. Operation Ocean Shield II happens and the entire world gets together to fuck yout shit up.
Just cut the hook lines lmao
Is that why the russians are losing robotnik?
Does it matter when the "summer offensive" has done nothing but squander all the NATO weapons and good will?
>That was just a probe
>More probing
>We're probing so much
>With all this probing info vatnicks are sooo done when the REAL counter offensive begins in two weeks
Do you have any idea of how few people work on a cargo ship? Or how little they are paid? It's like a gas station; the staff is paid in pennies, the company don't give a shit about them, and you expect them to actually defend the station or ship? If the company loses the unit they lose their job, but the necessary two weeks off to nurse the wound they got defending it will be unpaid.
Theres a ton of different jobs on mid/long haul cargo that pay like $20-$50+ usd an hour. Hardly pennies by most metrics. Extra if you're going through danger zones. Additionally they'll often hire extra security if there's significant cause, it wouldn't be a deck hands job to repel boarders. Hiring 7 or 8 guys and buying a few AK's and a couple crates of ammo to defend anywhere between like $50,000,000 to $500,000,000 in assets on a cargo ship is fucking peanuts.
Your nuts if you'd let psycho bro Islamic pirates take you without a fight. You'd end up chained in the wheel house buck broken on an hourly basis until you bleed out your bussy fuck that Gay shit sir.
Yeah right. Sure the pirates would damage the goods they were selling back to the shipping companies. As if they werent getting all the warm bodies they wanted from the locals, what with being the only actual money earners in the village. But, I guess everyone has a fantasy.
We use high pressure hoses, water cannons and barbed wire to keep them off. Some companies have outfitted their ships with sonic cannons and other fancy stuff but I've never seen them in person. In some routes, like ones that pass off the Somali coast, they hire security contractors that shoot the pirates when they get close. They don't do that everywhere though. In Nigeria for example, they have a law that only allows native Nigerian security personnel on board and most companies and crews would rather gamble with makeshift defenses than allowing incompetent at best and malicious at worse people to guard the ship and crew. Other than that, even if they do manage to come onboard, we barricade ourselves in the "citadel" which is usually the engine room or the steering gear room and they can't get in or seize control of the ship so they still some personal items from our cabins and shoot up the place in anger and fuck off. Crews that are taken hostage usually fucked up somewhere in the process.
Any good stories from a life onnawater, anon?
rpgs
Aks
Piracy has been massively decreasing though because a couple of cheap mercs or even armed crew with ARs from an elevated position can wipe out an entire boat of pirates before they can even realize whats happening, so theyve been doing that. A little open pirate boat is basically a sitting duck against anyone actually willing to fight back. Once again self defense wins the day
Could it possibly get more kino than shooting at pirates with your friends?
Something real large gets picked up by satellites. Anything that would be a remote threat on a firepower level would be immediately targeted by the US for destruction.
Pirates only get to be pirates by looking like they could be random fisherman until they start shooting.
dex > str
Why don't we just hire privateers to go around sinking pirate ships and/or chinese fishing vessals which are basically the same thing but targeting the ocean stocks of fish instead of merchant shipping
You don't know anything about the hybrid warfare China is conducting with its fishing fleet.
Its captain planet-villain shit and needs to be stopped, China is basically an alien infestation on our world that is trying to strip it of all life to the point of self-destruction.
>Its captain planet-villain shit and needs to be stopped
No argument there but saying it's the same thing as dirt poor somalis being financed by rich somalis who escaped to Europe to hijack cargo ships and their crew is just nonsensical.
One is organised crime born out of poverty and lawlessness.
The other is literally a state actor performing hybrid warfare for both profit and long-term environmental advantage for their home waters and using both naval and merchant navy assets to do it.
>The other is literally a state actor performing hybrid warfare for both profit and long-term environmental advantage for their home waters and using both naval and merchant navy assets to do it.
Yes, and? We should shoot them both.
Why would they want to? How could they? Did you think at all before you made this asinine thread?
Money
>Why don't some of the most poor, retarded human beings on the planet just use things they don't have???
Are you genuinely this fucking stupid OP or are you bored?
>why don't thieves just ask their dads to buy them nicer things?
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