Hamas released a video of their anti-tank teams targeting Israeli tanks by running up to the tanks, placing mines on the tanks then detonating them. If the IDF gave their tanks infantry support this attack would be impossible. How does a professional military fuck up combined arms this badly?
>ziggers don’t use infantry support
>hohols don’t use infantry support
>israel doesn’t use infantry support
how many more “modern armies” are going to have their armor pointlessly btfo
But most of the time Slavs are using some infantry cover with their tanks, in GAZA its just tanks and no infantry. I honestly am shocked at how big of a fuck up Israel is making. If they don't change this, this could fuck up.
First, the ability of a guy to run out of a hole concealed by brush and move 8 feet through the dust does not entail that Israel "isn't using infantry." Other videos show the opposite.
All it shows is that tank visibility is not perfect, which everyone knows.
They finished the encirclement and began taking urban areas and pushing towards downtown Gaza City and so far I am aware of one (1) Namer destroyed, with the crew, to an ATGM, and a few other fatalities in the infantry.
Doesn't seem like a "huge fuck up," by any confirmed losses.
This video shows a tiny homemade gas can hitting a tank and doing... what exactly?
We don't see.
Then we see an RPG fired into a cloud and detonate on something.
The only aftermath imagery we have is someone picking up a small, chest sized price of armor, no burning tank, to knocked out tank. It's not even clear if the tank was even knocked out or hit by the second weapon.
If there was "no infantry," and tanks are "operating alone," why not show your victory, having destroyed the lone tank?
I think thirdies unironically deify western forces, so whenever they manage to inflict any losses they feel as if they slain a god
The israeli INFANTry are too scared
He should have used ‘yids’ to keep it in line with the others.
>infantry support
>1 vehicle maybe damaged
Did that stop the complete encirclement of Gaza?
No because encircling Gaza doesn't matter, what matter is how many tanks Israel loses per tunnel destroyed. Hamas's logistics are all underground. And their tactics.
>being completely cut off means you are winning
that would be good if we were seeing Grozny 1 levels of losses
but they aren't cut off, HAMAS is supplied by tunnels that go underneath the Israeli salient.
>many tanks Israel loses
can we see them?
>Muh encirclement
The IDF cope and shill stinks like early Vatnik shills claiming all of Ukraine will fall in two weeks thanks to the might VDV. Only to be later replaced with hohol cope and shill about retaking Crimea. It's all so tiresome.
if we were seeing collumns of armored vehicles burning overnight like we saw in Ukraine, than you'd have a point
They are likely going to cut off tunnels in the ground they control.
these aren't vietcong tunnels a few feet below the ground, these are sixty stories underground and renforced with concreate walls. To destroy these tunnels you have to destroy the entrenches.
>Did that stop the complete encirclement of Gaza?
Do you think this is what stops Hamas?
The only thing that stops Hamas in the long run is TPD, which is not going to happen without full-on WW3 breaking out and giving cover to a true campaign of ethnic cleansing/genocide.
It sets the stage for clearing the area, this isn't Vietnam, they don't have a large porous border with a friendly or neutral country, it's a small isolated pocket.
>they don't have a large porous border with a friendly or neutral country
They got a border with an incompetent country, Egypt
Was true 20 years ago. Now the Egyptian army literally opens fire on any Hamas incursion
Shit happens in a fight, infantry get pinned down in the open, tanks move forward to relieve them, one or two wind up unlucky next to some guys in a duck blind with some AT. Sometimes you zig and you get zagged.
Basically this, casualties are going to happen, IDF still managed to cut Gaza in two.
lol, the bounty of cope explanations that happen whenever we see tanks caught without infantry support is always entertaining. Wasn't expecting to see this outside of the retard war that is happening in Ukraine but that's life I guess.
Yeah, I thought the IDF actually had smart officers.
>cut off city
>bomb city
>enemy has underground tunnels and bunkers, all of their logistics are underground
>has no effect on hamas military campaign
Get it through your thick head. Hamas has ALL of their supply lines and depos underground.
>why yes, dumb israelites who dealt with them hamas tunnels for decades are actually oblivious and wont do anything about them, they will roll merkavas on the surface for fun until they will lose all of them. heres your 2 lucky sneak attack videos as a proof!
Is this the new version of
>Russian reserves haven't been committed yet! They're being held back for the REAL battle when they decide to stop being so merciful!
Hamas will raise its unibrow and everyone will know everything
Except thats not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that underground supply lines can't be cut tanks alone. You need physical soldiers to destroy tunnel entrances.
They cut off gaza and wait. Just like in the middle ages. 6 months or a year. Water will be the real problem, since the grown water will obviously be salty.
*gaza city
Before you scream "they already did that!!" no they haven't. This is the first time they only surround a part of Gaza. There aren't any tunnels going from one part of Gaza to the other. All tunnels are into and out of Israel and Egypt. Good luck smuggling supplies into Israel and then under the tunnel to Gaza city lmao
>A tank happened to pass near a tunnel and a guy could move all of 5 feet through heavy dust to attack it.
>This means the tank is operating alone.
>anti-tank teams targeting Israeli tanks by running up to the tanks, placing mines on the tanks then detonating them
Why have you made these all plural?
"Combined arms" doesn't equate with having infantry by the side of the tank every second. When the enemy has numerous tunnels waiting within 50 meters of your advance, it's impossible to prevent all close-range infantry attacks on armor.
These anti tank attacks HAMAS is using would be very easily stopped by a few guys with AKs.
No military would demand that every movement by a tank in open terrain must be screened by a wall of infantry. That something can be a counter doesn't mean it's wise to implement.
I'm not aware of any vehicle losses thus far beyond a Namer that might have been penetrated (and can probably be salvaged). The infantry losses have been reasonably low overall. The advance keeps advancing. I wouldn't look to drop a real critique here.
>These anti tank attacks HAMAS is using would be very easily stopped by a few guys with AKs.
No it's opposite. Few guys with AKs can be easily countred by Hamas shooters.
See there is no points of covering tanks with infantry in this case. "Infantry support" in large part is Soveit command memem who better lose hundred troops (comes for free) then one tank (costs 100000 1944 rubles). Infantry itself is very vulnerable, one $0.15 bullet and it's over for Infantry. How do you countrr Merkava tank? Oops even trusty RPG7 doesn't work anymore you need to cosplay Japs.
Infantry is much more easier to counter and trakes much more losses than tanks so in this context there is no sense to have exposed infantry sit in the open next to tanks.
There are use for a infantry, uses that tanks can't do (like clearing buildings) but this is not the case.
Americans seldom use tanks like these armies. American tanks use Apache helicopters with FLIR and 20mm guns and missles above the tanks just behind the ridge, Bradleys between the tanks and a few humvees and all of it is connected. What we dont do is drive a tank into a urban environment without and support.
But there is nothing proving anything happened to the tank.
A guy at the end took back a piece of the aps system. I don't think the tank was destroyed, but the APS was.
So far they have three tanks hit (in different videos I saw on TG). I don't think all three were destroyed, but they all had damaged components.
I've only seen this one tank being hit by anything. But either way, there aren't any reported tanks destroyed. And if/when it happens, it won't matter. Israel has some 550 Merkava IVs and some 800 Merkava IIIs (along with a handful of retired Merkava IIs in storage if they really wanted).
A tank loss or an APC loss only seems impressive to cave-dwelling sandnaggers drooling for some kind of propaganda win.
Well in two days three tanks have been destroyed/significantly damaged, so if this continues for a year than Israel will have no Merkava IVs.
If this continues for a year, there won't be any Gaza left
inshyaweh.
>a year
Nigga there are 30,000 Hamas and they’re dying by the hundreds without even slowing down Israeli war plans. If they keep this up they’ll literally all be exterminated within 100 days. And we still don’t know how many are dying in bombing runs and tunnel collapses
Except Hamas isn't dying by the hundreds. Hamas is sitting comfy in their tunnels.
Putting aside the fact that there are consistent videos of Hamas squads getting vaporized and building being cleared, it would be hilarious if they were dumb enough to not even contest Israeli control of the territory. The guys in the tunnels might just all die without firing a shot. Truly a unusable of the moslem tactical style
>Destroyed/significantly damaged
Based on what?
This video doesn't show any damage. Maybe the charge did something. It's not even clear if the second explosion did anything, and the first would have been small.
> Well in two days three tanks have been destroyed/significantly damaged
May I see them?
>HA israelites btfo! look at them based hamas paragliders! mossad sleepin? iron dome sleepin? israel is so over
>they start devastating air campaign and killing hamas hvts daily
>pfff, desperate israelite rats, they will never dare to enter festung gaza!
>they raid and probe and then actually go in
>pffff cope again! better look at those epic hezbollah videos, if israelites go further they will join in!
>they complete encirclement of northern gaza. hezbollah is quiet and its only moral support from other muslim "brothers"
>pfff better look at that one merkava getting btfo! no infantry support! and good luck with tunnels, moshe!
>...
Didn't he put this shaped charge in the wrong position?
he turns it towards the turret
Israel is incredibly incompetent and lucky that it only ever fights arabs.
Did you miss the part where they popped out of a hidden trap door behind some bushes? the infantry had already swept through the area and were ahead.
did you miss the part there was no infantry support?
>what is overwatch
Fitting the guy defending the guys without basic infantry tactics doesn't understand basic infantry tactics either.
How many tanks could the IDF possibly have?
10?
Sharia shills hoping for a protracted engagement Ukraine-style, you're going to be sorely disappointed.
Here I thought Israel had a modern army but the IDF is hilariously incompetent. And apparently sometimes incontinent.
>Yet another hamas video with the part of the tank after the smoke clears is conveniently not shown
I think the IDF are just lucky that they are up against literal retards
do you really expect the jihadi to stick around waiting for the smoke to clear for your viewing pleasure?
I mean yes you moron.. they would come back and show the aftermath if there were actually anything notable to show.
When they actually disabled a Merkava on Oct 7, they had plenty of footage to show of them pulling the crew out. It's good propaganda.
That's the reason they're uploading these videos in the first place.
>this cope again
Nah I'm going with Occam's Razor here, the video cuts off because they failed to destroy the tanks/APCs, almost certainly the explanation every single time.
Pretty sure Merkavas use a shotgun style APS that will blast any friendly infantry nearby, thats probably why
1. IDF armored units are still organized as pure armored brigades without organic infantry attached. Support infantry needs to be called in from other units.
2.Activation of Trophy APS would cause serious injuries or death to supporting infantry caught in intercept arc.
3. IDF despite claiming to be an elite organization actually rarely practices combined armor and infantry movement due to years of counter-insurgency style warfare, and also due to budgetary constraints with most of the budget going to IAF.
In all of my many hours of trying to ninjaneer every tank I possibly could in battlefield games I never imagined I'd see footage of people doing the exact same shit irl. Much less it actually working.
Israeli soldiers report that they wiped out multiple squads which attempted to run up to tanks with explosives. This is was the lucky one that managed to get through.
Video doesn't show a """destroyed""" tank. Hamas cope.
the vehicle behind it is a namer i'm pretty sure
so the (mechanized) infantry is there
So what's the actual point of doing this?
Is it an actual mine that can't be fired, or is it an RPG projectile that is too big to be fired accurately by their shitty RPGs?
Or is it a normal RPG projectile, and they are afraid the Trophy System would intercept it?
Or maybe the Merkava has strong enough armor, plus all the in-field modifications (like cope cages and those anti shaped charged "foams" I've seen) made the chance of penetrating too low so they first do this shit to stop the tank?
Or is it just brainwashed fanatics playing martyr?
Propaganda/morale booster
All the Palis have atm are propaganda vids of them supposedly massacring israelites that always cut away before you see any results OR them crying they’re being genocided
That seems kinda unlikely to me though. HAMAS/PIJ/whatever have limited manpower, so I'd doubt they'd be sending their actual fighters (I'm assuming this is an actual fighter due to all the censorship) to completely pointless deaths and then releasing the vids also. So I'm assuming there is some kinda logic behind manually placing a shaped charge to penetrate turrets.
Unless a video like this is meant for retweets on Twitter by civilian supporters, not other Islamic fighters so idk, you could be right.
All these mullahs remind me of Palpatine. Like, I bet even as we speak there are some Hamas boys who lost their limbs and are half-charred to death.
Shoutout to Hamas or PIJ or whoever the fuck this is: the editing finally doesn't suck. The Slavs on both sides of the Russo-Ukrainian War should take notes.