Why doesn't the Mexican military use any Aztec symbols? Posted on March 9, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor Why doesn't the Mexican military use any Aztec symbols?
that worked out well
things change, hombre
Aztecs were only one native group and when they had hegemony were so despised by the others they joined the Spanish in a massive revolt
It would be like the Arab League using Asyrian heraldry
Pretty good comparison
>were so despised
This, but a lot of Mexicans see Aztecs as their tribal identity. Some larp as Spaniards. It's actually a common insult in Mexico to call someone a "Mayate" which means Mayan.
Way back when, both the Aztecs and Mayans were hated because they kidnapped other tribes, children and all, and ate them, or condemned their own subjects to be eaten for losing sports games and such. These were cannibal warlord tribes that kept their power by feeding the masses meat. That meat came from human flesh. They didn't just let the meat from the hundreds of people they "sacrificed" a day go to waste. This is how a large population society with zero domesticated animals survived, they used humans as the domesticated animals. Look up "cannibalism in pre-Columbian America" if you don't believe me, because obviously they don't teach this since its not PC. Well documented by the Spanish and Portuguese.
IT IS ON THE MEXICAN FLAG ITS RIGHT FUCKING THERE IN THE MIDDLE THE AZTEC SYMBOL OF THEIR PEOPLE THE EAGEL ON A CACTUS EATING A SNAKE THAT IS THE AZTEC SYMBOL
>zero domestic animals
no, just no chickens, cows, etc. They did not have what we today think of as farm animals anon, but they had waterfowl like ducks, game birds like turkey, and deer. And fish was very important as well, given that they built their capital in the middle of a fucking lake.
Oh yeah and they also raised dogs for food like they do in asia.
Everyone in Mesoamerica committed sacrifice committed sacrifices you can even read this in Castillo's report when he chastises the Tlaxcalan for sacrificing the Cholulans
Where do turkeys and Muscovy ducks come from
You are retarded.
Anon we have their fucking bones, we know what they ate and how much. Those turkeys and the fish for that matter were a luxury item, they ate fucking brine fly eggs to supplement their diet. They were short on protein, whether it was a significant impetus for the raiding, or it started as such and became divorced from it and transitioned to an entirely political institution is unclear. They were eating too much corn I'll tell you that.
If you ask "why, why are they smart enough to build a ziggarut but not smart enough to do proper animal husbandry", well they are brown.
Zigurats are also just... EXTREMELY easy to build. There's a reason why every primitive empire that got large enough built similar things and its not any alien nonesense. It's because it's as simple as making a really, really big pile of rocks. So long as you have enough people to do it you don't need any braincells.
Oh and before someone asks "buh why did yurocucks not build any then?" Because piramids were built by very large empires without much engineering knowledge. By the time Rome had enough manpower, they had moved on to build way more useful things.
But this isn't actually why human sacrifices hapoened. And the human protein myth is pretty simple to dispell. Hey here's a question: Why did Pastoralism work? Well, that is because animals eat pastures, which humans can't digest, and humans eat the animal, which they can digest. This is the basis of all animal husbandry. You eat shit that eats shit you can't eat. And that's why Cannibalism doesn't fucking work. Because anything you feed your food is shit you could be eating, and indeed the canibalized human will waste a lot of the energy, so canibalism actually DECREASES nutritional value, on top of all the diseasds it spreads.
Not saying there are 0 cases of canibalism for food. We have historically seen some, but they were punctual due to crisis, not something that could hold up enough to keep a whole damn empire together.
No the Aztecs cannibalized people mostly because they had TOO MUCH food. Aztec fanboys will brag about how dense their cities were, that was precisely the issue, they were religious fanatics trying to keep a severely overpopulated empire together, so they justified the violence needed to do so through human sacrifice. Canibalism was just the excuse, the objective was population control.
This is also why they never figured out animal husbandry, they already had excess food with agriculture alone, the last thing they wanted was even more people to keep track of.
>>But this isn't actually why human sacrifices hapoened. And the human protein myth is pretty simple to dispell. Hey here's a question: Why did Pastoralism work? Well, that is because animals eat pastures, which humans can't digest, and humans eat the animal, which they can digest. This is the basis of all animal husbandry. You eat shit that eats shit you can't eat. And that's why Cannibalism doesn't fucking work. Because anything you feed your food is shit you could be eating, and indeed the canibalized human will waste a lot of the energy, so canibalism actually DECREASES nutritional value, on top of all the diseasds it spreads.
The reason cannibalism is stomped out is because every cannibalized person is a potential farmhand who could be feeding you via surplus. Only in places where farmland was limited or extremely inconsistent (Central Africa, Central/South American rainforests) did cannibalism manage to stick around. Aztec civilization is an extension of Mayan civilization, so you can imagine what happened.
You know corn and beans have plant proteins right?
Mayate comes from the Nahuatl
Word mayatl which means beatle it doesn’t mean mayan. It used in moder Mexican slang for black people.
They also had various types of animal protein sources from the domesticated muscovy duck, Turkey, dog to various wild game. Human flesh was really only consumed by a small few(prestigious warriors and the upper nobility)
There’s tons of indigenous groups in Mexico. The mexica were one of many. It’s like if greece revolved their identity around the Spartans and ignored everything else.
They domesticated turkeys from a central Mexican grouse. And by DNA analysis, it's shown that turkey was domesticated before the chicken was. Not only did everyone have turkeys, but you don't even need to farm them to have them. Their feathers were prized and are used in a lot of tribal Mexican fashion.
Both continents were full of cannibals and only a few tribes in north America didn't partake in cannibalism.
A lot of people don't realize that proto-indo-european groups also engaged in cannibalism thousands of years ago. It shouldn't be too surprising that groups that were migratory hunter-gatherers for thousands of more years didn't go through a lot of social changes more sedentary groups went through. That said, Cortez did nothing wrong. Spain made Mexico speedrun thousands of years of social development and brought the natives out of the stage where eating people is acceptable behavior.
>"Mayate" which means Mayan.
mayate means gay retard
My brother in christ there's literally one on every piece of Mexican gear.
That is a Catholic conspiracy.
Mexico is closer to Spain culturally than it is to the Aztecs for obvious reasons.
Still it would be cool to have native regiments with Aztec names and whatnot
some mexicans with an iq over 90 understand how cringe the Aztec LARP is
proponents of perpetual warfare, mass murder and losing the wars that matters because you can't make friends
not a good role model for anyone it's like Spartan LARP
Mexico is tan by European elite class and wouldn’t stoop so low as to emblazoning moron shit on their uniforms
The Aztecs were short-sighted retards who were already on their way out by the time the Spaniards arrived. That coupled with their sacrificing, flaying and cannibalization of even children and other demented customs makes them attractive only to contrarians and the most brainwashed of western hippies. Cortes did the world a favor.
>The Aztecs were short-sighted retards who were already on their way out by the time the Spaniards arrived.
Not so. They were a young empire on the ascent.
While human sacrifice is repellent to us today, so is the Spanish Inquisition.
The Inquisition was absolutely nothing compared to the Aztec death cult in terms of violence and murder. Less than 5000 people were killed by the Inquisition for the 300 years it existed. Leftist history has turned the Inquisition into some kind of rampant boogeyman.
>The Inquisition was absolutely nothing compared to the Aztec death cult in terms of violence and murder. Less than 5000 people were killed by the Inquisition for the 300 years it existed. Leftist history has turned the Inquisition into some kind of rampant boogeyman.
this this this the modern conception of the Spanish inquisition was crafted by apologists for Elizabethan England were tens of thousands of Catholics died under torture because of an insane north Korean tier paranoid absolute monarch
>Leftist history has turned the Inquisition
the Inquisition was a meme for evil Spaniards centuries before leftism was invented
only one thing matters to the Spanish
For a bunch of gays, they sure have tiny dicks.
>only one thing matters to the Spanish
>hey you say you are part of our group but go against the rules of our group
>we will explain to you why and how you are wrong and that is a danger not just to you but others around you
>if you come to agree with us and say you are sorry you are free to go
>if you don't want to you can leave our group, sure it will make you a social outcast but that's it
>if you refuse to change your way and refuse to stop saying you are part of our group we will hand you over to the secular power along with our findings
>hey I know we killed half you village in that raid
>but we need you to be calm as we carve you up for the sun god
>so have some maize booze
>oh and we will honour you by letting the guy that captured you eat you with his friends and family
>While human sacrifice is repellent to us today
I don't know bro the death penalty is still a thing in the US and Japan
A more apt comparison would be abortion. About 400,000 people die every day and half are still in their mothers womb.
Most of them are morons so it's ok
? Have you actually read about the spanish inquisition apart of some tired anglo memes? It existed for about 300 years and actually condemned 3000 people (wich only ended sentenced 1500), an that was mostly done early (be people like Torquemada, the converso). For the rest it mainly stopped people from burning others, had fair trials than people blasphemed because they prefered to be trialed be the Inquisitors than be normal justice, and was used most an intelligence agency for hunting crypto-muslims/garden gnomes than usually helped the Barbary pirates (wich only where destroyed in the 19th century) and protestants than wanted to start shit.
They had rules for torture, no more than 15 minutes and it couldn't maim or give sequels, and even then it was hardly used because the majority of inquisitors tought it useless for trials.
Hell, the Spanish inquisition actually protected people than protestants would call witches after the Zuggarramundi trial, where Pierre de Lancre started all kind of witch trials from in southern France and started going to the Pyrenees, then they had to go two inquisitors,wich put to places all kinds of instances so that stuff didn't happen again.
*Condemned to death.
It's a lot of people and it was a very cruel institution, but people doesn't seem to remember what epoch it was and what everyone else was doing at the time. I read in this site than the inquisition killed millions...
The point is that Western religions were also fucked up -- and they claimed to represent a god of infinite love. Maybe I should have used the albigensian crusade as a better example.
You should read Destruction of the Indes by Bartolomé de las Casas and Conquest of New SPain by Bernal Diaz.
Lmao, only the tlaloc cult is worse than any other religion stuff than is based on christianity. If you read about the Albigensian crusade you would know than what, a saqued city? It was thursday, you can go to China of those times, battles between the Song and Jin and whole cities of thousands passed to the knife, or when a tribe of Steppe nomads won vs a city, saqued ensued.
But the people than tortured and killed kids for the rain were the Nahuas/Aztecs. The people than took the daughter send to strength the bonds between the new and the old aristocracy and then flayed her and used the skin to dance for they gods in front of the father where the aztecs.
so you are saying that westen religions are fucked up because their excesses are just as best as a normal day of sacrificing people to the sun god, canabelising their bodies, putting their heads on giant skull displays and when the fancy takes you turning their skin into a cape. No wait scratch that last one that's what they do to your daughter that you send them as part of an alliance
that's a huge cope
>I should have used the albigensian crusade as a better example.
Don't use the Catholic schismatics or the heretical protestants to blaspheme the Lord.
> I should have used the albigensian crusade
Anon, there was no cathar in southern France. It was just Philip II doing a landgrab.
>Westerners JUSTASBAD as Aztecs
No, and everyone else in South America agreed with the Europeans on this
>Destruction of the Indes by Bartolomé de las Casas
While I'm no Spanish Empire apologist, this is probably the most biased source you could recommend.
I mean, he's very opinionated. But I don't see why he's more biased than anyone else.
>the Spanish Inquisition
>.3 people killed per day
Get fucked, garden gnome.
>so is the Spanish Inquisition
Long nose detected.
Cope, Spanish Inquisition would even provide you with a lawyer to defend your rights before tribunal and meticulously record the proceedings. Unironically much more humane than contemporary secular courts. They werent nice guys by any means, being basically a political police in disguise of churchmen, but rational and restrained, unlike jaguar morons. For example were you aware that Spain had almost no mass persecution of witches and devil worshippers, because Inquisition early on decided that majority of witchraft cases were in fact caused by hysterical delusions and not supernatural forces, so they flat out refused to accept most denunciations. This is hilarious to the point of one of the manuals for inquisitors elaborated that admitting to having given one's soul to the devil at night is not tantamount to heresy, for it can be inferred that the person acted under the sexual arousal caused by the succubus or incubus, therefore not being sane at the moment, so he or she deserves only simple ecclesiastical penance for lewd thoughts.
People also don't realize that the Inquisition was essentially the counterinsurgency following the Reconquista, and their primary responsibility was rooting out recidivists hiding among the Muslim and gnomish converts after Spain was liberated.
Also, if you're wondering why the organization is so aggressively slandered in popular media, there's your answer.
>They were a young empire on the ascent.
They were in deep political turmoil when the Spanish arrived, constantly suppressing rebellions and raids. Independent city states in the region hated the Aztecs so much they sided with white people they had never seen before to help topple the Aztecs.
True, but resentful Italian city sates sided with Hannibal for similar reasons, and Rome survived. I wouldn't assume the Aztecs would have fallen without outside forces shaking things up. It was an empire at the height of power going out in a doomed blaze of glory.
Fun fact, Charles II everyone thinks was an inbred retard neutered the Spanish Inquisition by packing the court with his goons and embarrassing the head inquisitor so hard his life fell apart and everyone laughed to the point the organization then fell apart.
I remember reading that Torquemada likely had schizophrenia and Carlos used to bully him kek
The natives who retained power and titles in Mexico after the Spanish conquest were all those that allied with them against the Aztecs.
Modern Mexican elites are basically descendants of European/castizo+ and anti-Aztec Nahuatl cities.
This is why the Mexican state has to fight a Mayan/Zapotec insurgency in the South and a Norteno/cartel problem in the North. Its three different civilizational cultures
Shut the fuck up gringo gays. You don't know anything
You're Chicano. The funny thing is high IQ gringos know more about your parents/grandparents culture than you do. Go back to eating burritos and wearing Dickies, puta.
Lol white people hardly know their own culture, fucking trailer park pagans.
The entire world called it awesome and stole it.
I'll remember that next time I see you wearing a flannel, paco
At least we ain't brown. Or worse.
IT'S LATINX Mexichud
Cartel still does human sacrifice
I prefer the Coahuiltecan and Apache.
Aztecs are super cool. I don't care about how their society was in real life, it's a great aesthetic. Nothing wrong with larping occasionally.
Also I think people are a bit harsh on them. Their society seems to have been fairly developed considering the fact that they weren't around for that long, they had no Horses or Cattle and almost no calorie dense food.
You know what corn is anon? What kind of shit do you learn in your country than you shit stuff like that.
Can't you read? What do you think
means you stupid retard? They had a much lower caloric intake compared to European nations
One of the reasons the USA and Mexico are some of fatesst people on earth is the amount of corn they eat, as its full of easy to digest sugars (heck, USA companies put corn syrup to anything), and have lots of very useful plants like avocados/paltas and beans, caloric surpluss wasn't a problem.
Not even in the top 10 bro. All the fatties are elsewhere
Chew you havisfaction a singlelicious satisfaction to snack that up?
There is a difference between HFCS and corn that wasn't selectively bred and had to be farmed without domesticated animals.
>Why doesn't the Mexican military use any Aztec symbols?
Look at the Mexican flag you dolt
Nobody here has mentioned the mexican service rifle and how its just a G36 but with an aztec snake on the magazine well lmao
>mexican service rifle and how its just a G36
Its actually a complete rebuild of the G36 that fixed all the extremely German problems with it and made it into a serviceable modern battle rifle. best thing the Mexicans have done in small arms since the Mondragon and i wish to christ they'd make a civilian version and ship some north for me
Shut up, Miguel.
I really wish we could get their various G3 type rifles too, or at least parts. I like the long boy sniper one.
That's actually a 'mountain rifle'. It's basically a cross between a battle rifle, DMR and LMG. Basically so troops in mountainous environments can provide sustained fire from across valleys and out range combatants. Some of them are semi auto only.
Neat. Now I want it more.
The Mexican air force does.
That's a civilian airliner, Anon.
Not in Mexico
im pretty sure its civilian
I heard it was insulting to a Mexican to imply that he had any 'native' blood in him.
On the contrary, I've seen blue-eyed Mayan Larpers claiming to be 100% native. The reality is that opinions are mixed about the racial make up of Mexico.
the racial make up of mexico and any other latin american country is mix, some more than others but all mix
the only ones who refuse to acept this are larpers indigenistas and high class man babys, both of them are low iq sub humans, so they have that in common
I intentionally used the term 'mixed' to imply that.
first cheeked and second it pass over my head
That's because Mexican law will consider you Mayan even if you are not full blooded Mayan (or even Maya majority for that matter) as long as you can speak Mayan. There are literally some ethnic Germans in Chiapas and parts of the Yucatan peninsula who can legally be considered Mayan due to this. They migrated to Mexico in the 1800s to be polygamists and run coffee farms. Some of them semi integrated with the Mayas and learned the language. There are also some ethnic Koreans who can speak Maya in Yucatan too. They were imported as farm laborers back when Mexico was friendly with Imperial Japan. Some fought in the Mexican revolution too. Additonally a full blooded Mayan would not ve considered Maya by the government if they don't speak the language or practice the culture. Mexico is weird.
> Mexico is weird.
Not really it’s pretty logical. In a country where everyone is mixed to a certain extent the biggest way to see if someone is considered indigenous is if they have continued their culture alive. The US is the weird one where people thing they’re Italian cause they’re great grandma is even though they don’t speak the language.
>Mayan guy can't speak Mayan and doesn't worshp deer god
>Is considered a Spaniard
That's like saying a Japanese person stops being Asian and becomes Caucasian if they speak French and eats snails.
Funny that you mention it. Because japanese ambassadors became stranded in Spain in the 1600s and pretty much became spaniards, with their descendants still being alive in a little town:
Culture is both stronger and different from Race, and the sooner the retarded idea of both being the same is erased from history the better.
Another example is black american businessmen going to Africa and realizing they have more in common with american whites than with the local third worlders, no matter how much they try to larp as "african american".
That's literally how it ALWAYS worked until the 19th century constitutionalist reforms started fixating on nationality. And even then Race wouldn't matter until the frigging Jim Crow era.
For example many, and I mean MANY Hispanic names relate to the ethnicity of their parents or even they, but they were still considered spaniard.
Already mentioned Los Japón.
> The Golfines were german.
> The De Mora family were moorish nobility.
> El Greco was greek
etc, etc, etc.
And even on the first consitution, La Pepa, AFRICANS, as in african nationals, were considered a distinct subgroup, but Blacks, as in ethnically blacks not born in africa, were considered full spanish citizens no matter their race.
Literally no one but the anglos gave a shit about race before the 20th century totalitarians adopted it as an excuse to fuck over people.
>no one but the anglos gave a shit about race before the 20th century
Let's not go too far. Until the XIXth century Spain had racial "Clean Blood" laws to keep people with gnomish or muslim ancestry out of goverment and any important roles.
But it's true that we spaniards are usually chill about race and value much more people speaking our language and being socially integrated.
The statutes were fairly localized (often applying only to individual orders) and had plenty of detractors.
To put in context how much of an utter nothingburger these statutes were, both the Santa Hermandad (the police force that was formed by Isabella I by uniting the Santas Hermandades and would later be reformed into the Guardia Civil) and the Spanish Inquisition were founded by conversos. (And yes, btw, you read that right, Torquemada had gnomish ancestry. He wasn't even ashamed of it, talked about it when justifying the founding of the Inquisition.)
I mean when the 2 bodies in charge of applying the law not only weren't affected by the statutes but both were openly against it (for being against the more common dogma of baptism and millenialism, which was anti-racist) you know that was at best a historical curiosity.
Also 2 of the names I mentioned, De Mora and the Golfines, were extremely powerful nobiliary families, so, again, that's how little the blood purity shit mattered in Spain. Only real application we see of them is in some extremist monacal orders, aside from that it was wet paper.
They aren’t considered “Spaniard”. They’re considered mestizo. Ethnicity in Mexico is more based on culture than muh ancestry and no that doesn’t mean if I learn mayan tomorrow I would be considered maya. More to it than that. You have to belong to a community.
Mexicans using Aztec symbols is as retarded as Americans using Indian symbols n stuff. ‘Mexicans’ and the Spanish fucking slaughtered the Aztecs.
The mexican flag literally has the aztec symbol in the midle of it
oh no did the mean spaniards show up and make the flesh eating mongoloid cannibals stop razing the land of resources
oh geez did they do a heckin oopsies and extinguish a genocidal tribe of retarded polygamist sun worshippers that thought the sun wouldn't rise if they didn't kill more slaves than there were hours in a day?
OH NO how terrible
Isn't the amount of cannibalism and sacrifice vastly overstated? It seemed the majority of them were prisoners who would have been executed in other societies of the time anyway.
Lol no, they had semi defeated tribes like the Otomies and Tlaxcalans cut out of the best obsidian and cotton to make armor so they could harvest them every x years for example.
>shitty plastic overheats
> short-stroke piston
I don't have personal experience just reporting what field users have said
>long stroke piston
>new lug/locking system
>switch to carbon fiber
>sights don't suck
sumerge mi miembro, cabron
> Already modular
> Commonly used with piccotiny instead of the optics so it can have good optics
> One of the most exported rifles today
> Harder to maintain
> Has almost no exports
> So shit even Mexico has bought multiple packages of G36s since its firat adoption
They didn't fix shit, Anon. And taking into account how many export variant G36s are made in Spanish factories... Lets just say there's something poetic about Mexico importing them to fix their shitty copypastas.
Even HK said they improved some things when they review their rifle in the legal case anon. The G36 just isn't the wunderwaffle it tried to be so the platform wasn't ever going to overthrow the AR anyway.
>seething german hands typed this post
watch a takedown video, its objectively superior, easier to maintain, and they don't want to export it, it's a government project
Ah yes, because obviously the Mexican government just hates making money. It's totally not because the loader keeps breaking if you try to load 30 bullets at once (something you'll find mexican soldiers being mad about online all the time) and the "poligonal rifling) isn't just a meme, it's actually dangerous for the operators. (Glock-KABoom everyone?!)
Keep coping. You simply can't change the fact that FX05 is so shit even the Mexicans have restarted buying G36 by now.
> you'll find mexican soldiers being mad about online all the time
spend a lot of time following Mexican Army personnel on social media, do you?
its the same rifling as the G36 dummy
>restarted buying G36
no they haven't.
the last G36s came in in 2009 and went to corrupt local policia and HK got reamed for arms trafficking for that, the Mexican Army is sick of their shit and definitely not buying more shitty german machineguns when they have better ones
Mexico doesn't use Spanish kits. It's also not a G36 mod. They look very different internally. German courts used to term "improved beyond commonality"
>Isn't the amount of cannibalism and sacrifice vastly overstated? It seemed the majority of them were prisoners who would have been executed in other societies of the time anyway.
Cannibalism was very rare and only in the context of religious ceremonies.
Their human sacrifice was really over the top. Everyone who wanted to join the elite had to capture an enemy for sacrifice, and it was a city of a million people. Weirdly, they didn't sacrifice criminals, because they were unworthy. Thieves got 'Wood and Stone', i.e. their heads bashed in with rocks or clubs.
Another good one would be if he was blocking a head going thru the hoop like packing a basketball shot
Oxford University pre dates the Aztec Empire by 400 years and had lasted 500 years after it was defeated.
Well, the military college was insired in the aztec architecture.
The fx-05 has an aztec name the "fx" mean "Fusil Xiuhcoatl" (Fire Snake in Nahuatl) and has an aztec snake engraving.
Also the Mexican International Military competition is called "Chimaltlalli" wich means "battlefield" in Nahuatl, and has a Macuahuitl (Aztec sword) in the logo
Also they have a vehicle named in mayan
Also, they recently publish this logo for the army, kind of ugly tbh
This is the only interesting answer in this whole thread.
tanto te costaba poner una foto del fusil cucaracho?
MIS COSTADOS ESTAN EN ORBITA, KEK
>we wuz kings
>mfw I have this face
Its like roblox Mexico.
>Why doesn't the Mexican military use any Aztec symbols?
Probably because the cartels use them.
Yeah, this reply section is slowly turning into 4chan...
>slowly turning into
>Yeah, this reply section is slowly turning into 4chan...
please return to reddit
You have to type "return to reddit" like an aristocrat because "go b*ck to r*ddit" hits the spam filter lmao
Oh of course it's not mere censorship. I shall let you know PrepHole is a dignified board full of gentlemen (and ladies) who wouldn't stoop so low as to use the same terminology as those untermensch in 4chan and /b/. Ça ne fait rien how much their agents provocateurs try to raid us.
You did good work here, anon. Have a (You)
you dont use Comanche iconography on all your weapons, neither do most latin americans
its all a mix, european and american culture
tough there are some people pushing for "indigenismo" basically putting native american culture way above european or even post-colonial culture
because you know we are all evil because one of my grand-grand-grand-grand-grand parents probably killed or oppressed some natives
>we are all evil because one of my grand-grand-grand-grand-grand parents probably killed or oppressed some natives
Those idiots think the Spanish empire worked like the British one or the French, lasting until after WW2. In reality Spain lost almost all before the XXth century when the local colonial elites made up of mixed spaniards broke away, and almost nobody in Spain saw any benefit from the empire. That's why Spain began the last century so poor and underdeveloped: almost all the riches were wasted away in retarded european religious wars or kept by the local colonial elites. Nothing was really used to make the iberian spaniards better.
If you're spanish, the chances of your ancestors being involved in the conquest of America are almost nil, because they all remained there.
Only the Western Sahara people, Equatorial Guinea, and maybe Cuba have any right to complain today, and only because the spanish families and companies involved still exist in some way.
Ironically if you’re from Mexico your ancestors are probably more likely to be a conquistador than if you were from Spain.
>If you're spanish
im latin american, thats the problem with these people, the mere fact i exist implies im an oppressor or some shit like that
granted not every latin american country is like this, each has different degrees of "indigenismo", but here in chile, shit is unbearable
native americans and europeans are part of who we are, i dont see why one has to condemn or idolize one part more than the other
You can like existing while despising half of your gene pool. We do it all the time in America.
Afortunadamente nunca me toco toparme con algun indigenista, de que region eres?
santiago, you see mapuche flags everywhere, and well, you know what happened to the statue of general Baquedano
also santiago, at least were i live other than flags i dont see anyone screaming indigenist shit
Aztecs are the closest thing possible to an evil cabalistic empire that ever existed. Everyone basically teamed up with the Spaniards to kill them off. All that whiny leftist narrative drivel goes out the window when you read up on the firsthand accounts of the Spanish.
But muh European imperialists.....natives dindu nuffin
>"the rain god Tlaloc required the sacrifice of children to honor him, and it was believed that the tears of the doomed children would ensure rain in the coming year, so the Mexica went to great lengths to have the children destined to die for Tlaloc to cry as much as possible before their hearts were ripped out"
>"At the pyramid, she was laid on a slab facing the sky, had her mouth bound so she could not scream and she was sacrificed by having her head slowly sawed off by using an obsidian knife as she was laid there bound, staring upwards at the stars, so the crops might grow in the next season."
>"Then, still in darkness, silence, and urgent haste, her body was flayed, and a naked priest, a 'very strong man, very powerful, very tall', struggled into the wet skin, with its slack breasts and pouched genitalia: a double nakedness of layered, ambiguous sexuality. The skin of one thigh was reserved to be fashioned into a face-mask for the man impersonating Centeotl, Young Lord Maize Cob, the son of Toci"
>mfw I have to get my heart torn out before I even turn 10 because otherwise the rain might stop
>mfw the priests torture me for the entire journey to the execution site because my tears ensure it will keep raining
>mfw the priest takes his sweet time tearing my heart out because more suffering means more tears
That sounds comically evil. There's no way this was a thing.
Wich part? The towers made of skulls?
"Los niños y mujeres no iban a la guerra. Está pasando algo que no está registrado y esto es muy nuevo, una primicia en el Huey Tzompantli", subrayo Bolaños.
Basically the Huey Tzompantli were suposed to be made with the skulls of YOUNG WARRIORS, but after analizing them, they found the skulls of womans and kids.
These are the same dudes who made sure to constantly maintain literal skull-racks by replacing old skulls with new ones. The entire Aztec way of life revolved around reenacting the creation of the world, and since the gods had made the world by sacrificing themselves, the Aztecs sought to emulate them in all aspects of life. It didn't matter what you did or who you were. You spilled blood on the daily, even if it only meant to prick your finger on a cactus spine. Birth, Death and War. Those were the only constants, and everything bought and paid for by oceans of human blood.
Oh yes its real, and it got so widespread they've found remainders of rain sacrifices done that way as far away as Peru. And as for the skin, let me tell you a bit of history. You know how the Aztecs had this massive migration period because everyone hated them. Have you ever wondered how it started?
Before they started migrating the Mexica were a Vassal state of the larger amd more powerful Colhua tribe. And for whatever reason I can't concieve of, the Colhua chieftain decided to unite both tribes through political union. His daughter would marry the Aztec's leader. And the Aztecs accepted so the Colhua sent the girl to the Aztecs to be prepared for the marriage as was custom.
Now, I need to drop a bit of info here for this to make sense. See, most tribes at that point were religous but still mostly feudal. So they had a basic understanding on how marriages worked. The Aztecs however were firmly a theocracy, they thought Huitzilopochtli, god of war, was their true leader, and the man in charge was merely an aspect of him. So when the Colhua told them to prepare a marriage... They greatly misunderstood who the woman was supposed to be married with.
And that's why come the day of the ceremony where the Colhua expected a nice show, some fancy party and all around good times, what they found was the Aztec's high priest came literally wearing the girl's skin, including using her face as a mask, claiming to be channeling her spirit to tell them about how happy she was with Huitzilopochtli, the god, in the sky. Needless to say the Colhua dind't appreciate the gesture. Indeed in response they tried to genocyde the Aztecs, the only reason the tribe survived was because it ran for the hills and didn't stop.
Now you might think they were deliberately insulting the Colhua, but they were clearly unprepared for the response, lost most of their leadership. So no, they weren't intentionally triggering their lord, they were THAT FUCKING INSANE.
Was it autism.
More like schizo. I mean, I know autismos are unaware of societal norm. But there's "reeing inappropiately" and then there's "thinking skinning a chick alive and using her face as a mask to go visit her father while larping as her and thinking he'll love you for doing so". That ain't just autism anon. That's some grade A coo coo for coco puffs shit.
Aztecs and their culture deserve total annihilation and relegation to history more than communism does in terms of cruelty
there is literally nothing morally wrong with canibalism your just gay
>Everyone basically teamed up with the Spaniards to kill them off.
The irony of you mentioning the firsthand accounts when you clearly haven't read them yourself.
>mexicunts are doing the similar shit to this very day