Why doesnt Russia place their carrier strike groups in the Black Sea to gain total air superiority over ukraine?
Why doesnt Russia place their carrier strike groups in the Black Sea to gain total air superiority over ukraine?
Why doesnt Russia place their carrier strike groups in the Black Sea to gain total air superiority over ukraine?
Great idea! It'll also gain total undersea superiority too.
>Russia
>Carriers
you are telling me that the second army in the world doesnt have operational carriers?
Define operational. They can't do carrier counter air operations, carrier air strike operations etc. They can probably so some training evolutions and some straight maritime operations ike FONOP that don't require you safely launch and recover planes.
>Russia
>CSG
I, uh... OP...
Uh I thought Turkey and Russia are friends though?
Turkey shot down a russian fighter jet. And then like cucks Russia sold them anti air missiles.
Turks and Russians being friends is more laughable than anyone being china's friend.
China has more military allies than the US.
>China has more military allies than the US.
No you don't.
How many of those allies have a blue water fleet?
oh that's neat, and how many of them are capable of supporting the PRC in a military conflict?
They have military allies?
Its allies consist of:
-Brazil
-Russia
-Iran
-Saudi Arabia
-South Africa (if we count barely functioning states)
-Cambodia
-Pakistan
Quite a list.
>Russia
With China having voted to condemn Russia pretty recently, it seems like a fairly tenuous alliance to me
You are mad if you think Brazil or for that matter anyone in Latin America would move a finger if push comes to shove in a war between China and USA.
The chinese know quite well they are only tolerated worldwide because they are cheap, corrupt and willing to work with anyone in the political spectrum, but by the end of the day the average latin country has only loyalty to itself and will drop them the moment they become more of a trouble than an asset.
Yeah let me know how the entire Eritrean navy stacks up against a single American patrol patrol
bro nobody cares about the Togolese military
China has more military allies than the US [in mainland China]
>(You)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fuck no
Why not? They've been building their armed forces for twenty years.
>I, uh... OP...
>also newfags
newfags detected.
almost like nato controls the entrance to the black sea or something
>groups
>plural
Also I'm pretty sure Turkey's closed the Bosporus to any Russian warships that weren't based in the Black Sea before their invasion
>pretty sure Turkey's closed the Bosporus to any Russian warships
Turkey closed the Bosphorus to ALL military-related ships 10.000 tons or more. NOBODY can sail anything military through right now, unless they are the size of a Ticonderoga or smaller.
(You) (Massive) (Retarded) (gay)
>vatmoronstan
> has "carrier strike groups"
OP, (You) are probably the most retarded fuckwit on all of PrepHole. Why don't (You) go ahead and list these "carrier strike groups" in your head. Are these "carrier strike groups" in the thread with us? Right now?
Perhaps the vatmoron stealth technology is so perfect that nobody in the world can see these "carrier strike groups." Except for OP.
Russia doesn't have CSGs. Russia doesn't even have functioning carriers or functioning carrier air wings. They had to cancel carrier flight ops against insurgents because of spud ins.
The real question is why didn't they send it there before the invasion? Did they think Turkey would just let them in?
are you joking? It's basically a totaled hulk, it caught fire in drydock, there is no way it could make it there to begin with
surely the other carrier groups Russia has could've made it there oh wait
Jesus Christ Americans relax your tits you don't need so many.
Also Admiral Kuznetsov, the Russian one, can't even leave the port until 2024 (and that was the schedule before the war, now probably around 2030)
>you don't need so many.
Executive bonuses say differently.
This image is well out of date.
At least eight of the American ships in the image have been destroyed. To date one aircraft carrier and two amphibious ships have been built to replace the losses.
>Jesus Christ Americans relax your tits you don't need so many
> F-16s
> F-22s
> F-35s
> carriers
> destroyers
> submarines
> nukes
> soldiers
> sailors
> marines
> pilots
> HIMARS
> Abrams
> M777s
> Bradleys
> cruise missiles
> guns
> bullets
> artillery shells
> drones
> anti-tank missiles
> ice cream ships
Counterpoint: February 24th, 2022.
Yes, we do. In fact, we need more. A fuckton more. vatmoronstan is the warm-up act. bugmoronstan hasn't got the memo. Yet.
Russia has one "Carrier" and I used the quotes because the Kuznetsov has never been combat capable in any serious sense, and never will be in any sense ever again.
But I think you knew that already.
1- because you're a fucking idiot
2- because the Montreux Convention explicitly prohibits the presence of aircraft carriers transiting the Bosphorus
3- because Russia are successfully such fucking idiots that Turkey is refusing to allow any of their warships to transit
4- because Russia does not possess sufficient serviceable escort ships to ensure that a carrier would not conduct a close-reconnaissance of the Moskva
5- because Russia does not possess sufficient carrierborne fighters to affect the air battle over Ukraine and does not possess any carrier borne tankers or AEW aircraft
6- because Russia's only carrier is currently six months overdue from being released from heavy maintenance due to the sinking of a dry dock, the toppling of a crane into the flight deck, and a fire onboard
7- because that does not include the fact that the carrier in question is barely serviceable in peacetime much less wartime
8- because last time that carrier did a deployment they lost not one but two fighters in a period of weeks while conducting "combat" operations in a permissive environment
9- because irrespective of the above, the long period of heavy maintenance has resulted in Russia not having a full crew of sailors onboard or even available for Kuznetsov, and their carrier fighter pilot cohort is now out of currency and depleted
There's a bunch of reasons - pick your favorite.
>floating oven
>lol lmao ramps
>lol lmao pilot hours
>lol lmao Turkey
Mostly Turkey and Russia being balls deep in Iran. Bosphorus security goes out the window if nUSSR pushes through Romania.