Why doesn't human fat stop bullets like with bears and elks?

Why doesn't human fat stop bullets like with bears and elks?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    less connective tissue because humans are not well engineered to carry so much fat, but really fat people will stop *some* small caliber rounds, especially the kinds that expand easily on impact.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >really fat people

      20 extra pounds is fat. I am a fat person.
      40 extra pounds is obese. Obese people are really fat.
      The kind of "shape not a person" level of fat required to significantly affect survival chances is hideously, comically, beyond circus freakshow tier of fat.

      This is not normal and fat people are disgusting.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fat doesnt stop the rounds , the skin does

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it will if the round fragments or expands enough going through skin, but *intact* rounds do tend to just sail through fat

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but *intact* rounds do tend to just sail through fat
        This. It's the same if you've ever cut up meat in the kitchen. Fat puts up much less resistance to a knife than muscle or connective tissue. Big animals are tough because of their muscle, bones, and tendons, not fat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fat does. skin does too. it depends on sturdiness and thickness.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        even air stops bullets when u make it thick enuf

        >mind == blown

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      less connective tissue because humans are not well engineered to carry so much fat, but really fat people will stop *some* small caliber rounds, especially the kinds that expand easily on impact.

      Corporal Mark Coates would like a word. Seriously, he would like one. He's fricking dead because the other guy took 5x .357s to his chest fat and it didn't do the job.

      >Killed by a fat piece of shit with a .22

      It's the adrenaline. You could shoot someone's arm off and he'll run away at the speed of a car for a solid 5 minutes before dying of blood loss

      https://i.imgur.com/sdFI0th.jpeg

      Why doesn't human fat stop bullets like with bears and elks?

      >Like bears and elks
      What?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Poor guy. Died because an old boomer felt bored that day

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you saying something about this specific case or are you just a cuck who hates hunting?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nta but some animals are dishonorable to hunt, they should be left as God intended. I suspect most common bears are fine though

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Absolute brainlet take, the entire concept of trophy hunting comes from the cultures that invented codes of honor, specifically as a way to prove your honor or your manhood due to tue prey's danger or difficulty. In fact, the less likely someone would hunt an animal to eat it, the more likely they hunted it for sport. Literally the most brainlet take on trophy hunting I've ever seen
              >inb4 your example is an animal nobody hunts anyways

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            only cucks hunt you moron
            you are using a gun you massive moronic pussy

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Here's the bait.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think trophy hunting at least is gay, taking a life to stroke your ego. Subsistence hunting is fair game, man's gotta eat

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why not both?

              That said, if i was rich i would fly out to africa with an 2 bore and go frick up some hippos. Why not?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, i'm 100 percent in favor of hunting, used to back when I could walk unassisted. I just think that the caliber should be high enough and shot placement good enough to give the animal a quick, clean death. The amount of blood near the mouth and the small trail of it leading towards the back makes me think that this guy lived long enough to run for a bit with blood filling its lungs before it passed from blood loss. Not a good way to go.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Nah, i'm 100 percent in favor of hunting, used to back when I could walk unassisted. I just think that the caliber should be high enough and shot placement good enough to give the animal a quick, clean death
              most people who believe this will simultaneously not hesitate to support bow hunting or traditional spear hunting among primitive cultures

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >most people who believe this will simultaneously not hesitate to support bow hunting or traditional spear hunting among primitive cultures
                Wrong

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                He said most people not "you"

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why can you no longer walk unassisted?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Trophy hunting is dumb (Unless it's for population control like I've heard they do on Botswana for Elephants). I get much more enjoying enacting Total Hog Death because they are crop destroying parasites

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think trophy hunting at least is gay, taking a life to stroke your ego. Subsistence hunting is fair game, man's gotta eat

              Ultimately hunting should prepare people better for killing and operating outside.
              Everything important becomes a game, a competition, etc, so there's no reason men wouldn't take trophies and feel happy to hit a target and do well at a task.

              Now, only a Black person wastes food he's already bought, so even if you were hunting because you want to put a big gay pair of antlers on your wall you should be eating what you killed (unless it's riddled with parasites or whatever, I understand why people doing population control on boar rarely bother to eat them).

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Are you saying something about this specific case or are you just a cuck who hates hunting?

        This is an Alaskan guide and a famous self defense use case against a bear. The only thing hunting that day was the bear.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you learn there are racial differences to subcutaneous and visceral fat composition
      >you now carry different rounds depending on the local color

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      human skin is more durable than alot of animals. bees for instance can sting multiple times on most animals, it's the tougher human skin their stingers get stuck in(do people believe that they evolved to sting once for hive protection and then just fricking die? lmao) that includes beer and elk skin. a fatass would be more bullet resistant than the average bear, though in the grand scheme of things not by much

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why doesn't human fat stop bullets like with bears and elks?

    actually it does stop. you just need thicker fat..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When has that not been the case.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fat makes bullets even more lethal. Most bullets are oversized for thin people human targets.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also fixing a gunshot wound on a fatty is like digging a hole in wet mud

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >digging a hole in wet mud
        Imagine the smell.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also fixing a gunshot wound on a fatty is like digging a hole in wet mud

      I can see an XXXXL gunt being a lifesaver if you're getting shot with meme ammo.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Surviving the surgery/anaesthetic at that BMI would be tricky even if they hadn't just been shot

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The FUPA is not a vital organ and stitches don't need anaesthesia.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >be fat
          >get shot
          >bulled doesn't do much damage
          >die of a heart attack because the sound startled you

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I feel like I read this in a local news story IRL.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Who gives a shit? They only need to stop a bullet, for which fat people are decent.
          If I'm out in the open and only things to take cover behind are either a fat person or a starving ghoul stickman I am diving behind the fatty, them surviving doesn matter becuse they weren't moving around at useful speed anyway.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The base of those rounds penetrates basically the same as a normal hollowpoint of it's caliber.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one really knows if it does or doesn’t stop bullets… the police only shoot if you run and no fat person is gonna run.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      uh...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tl;dw

        less connective tissue because humans are not well engineered to carry so much fat, but really fat people will stop *some* small caliber rounds, especially the kinds that expand easily on impact.

        is right, takes a .22 magnum to go through about a foot of fat

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the real question is if you're stopping bullets with fat, are you living a life worth living?

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bear and Elk have thick tough hides and strong bones. Elk have very minimal fat in general they're very lean animals

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine shooting a 5 gal bucket of room temp butter. Without the bucket, just a block of butter that size. Fat is pretty much the same thing, especially in obese humans. It's just sheets of body temperature butter hanging off muscle tissue.

    Yeah, that's pretty much what big boobs are, too.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Explains why I like butter so much.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Skill issue

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why doesn't human fat stop bullets like with bears and elks?

    Animals not being affected by bullets is largely a myth/boomer fudd lore. Like .45 blowing a human to pieces while 9mm is like being shot by a BB gun, boomers really have no idea what they are talking about.

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    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the adrenaline. You could shoot someone's arm off and he'll run away at the speed of a car for a solid 5 minutes before dying of blood loss

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rittenhouse says otherwise

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, being fat can stop bears and elks?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It'll probably stop the first bear after a while.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not fat that protects bears you massive fricking homosexual it's MUSCLE

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Corporal Mark Coates would like a word. Seriously, he would like one. He's fricking dead because the other guy took 5x .357s to his chest fat and it didn't do the job.

    >Killed by a fat piece of shit with a .22

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Drink 40 gallons of ballistic gel

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nice hourglass figure on the left there

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, 24 hourglass.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yeah, god forbid an animal get killed prematurely. That doesn't happen too often in nature.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I thought you vegans hated an excess of carnivores. I've only ever heard vegans yak about invasive felid species.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    people need to eat man. Hunting is definitely better than oversized industrial livestock farms

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >people need to eat man
      Not really, people can subsist on animal just fine.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Okay, Jonathan Swift.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Man is an animal though...
        >meats_back_on_the_menu_boys.gif

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >hunting a man for their hot meat
          I want it on my menu ~~

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    That's even better.
    >not vegan
    >which means eats either meat or dairy
    >doesn't speak against domesticating wildlife to be bred and killed on farms
    >hates hunting for reasons of murder
    Worse than a vegan, you're a conscientious objector.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why are you responding to bait?

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >doesn't think of manipulating once-wild animals over time as unnatural
    >thinks of killing a wild animal suddenly as not only unnatural but inhumane
    I pegged you right. Conscientious objector.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      again, you're supposing things about me and projecting them onto your posts.
      i am not against the domestication of species, or GMOs, or eugenetics. i am against disrupting the ecosystem, which is something hunters routinely do for their own amusement, even when they have all the tools acquired over centuries to subsist without having to kill the dwindling wild populations already endangered by mass anthropization, pollution and climate change.. you're being facetious, dishonest and false. also, giving animals human rights and calling their deaths "inhumane" is an insult to animals.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Legal hunters contribute more money to the preservation of species and natural environments than all other groups combined, globally.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You seem to think that the only form of hunting is trophy hunting, which is not true. You can hunt purely to survive. Nor are all animals hunted on the brink of extinction, those tend to be off-limits. You seem to "suppose" things yourself.

        Legal hunters contribute more money to the preservation of species and natural environments than all other groups combined, globally.

        That may be true but that is more a quirk of law and policy mandating this financial support, not because of anything hunting related. Unless you mean culling invasive species or the like

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >dwindling wild populations
        There are more white tail deer in the US than at any point in recorded history. Hunters are the best conservationists bar none.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >hunters are the best conservationists
          Lol. No, the government is the greatest conservationist. Deer were nearly wiped by hunters only in it for themselves. Whole bunch of states had to implement total deer hunting bans in the early 20th cent. The reason deer have rebounded is because of strict regulation enforcement by the government on hunters.

          This applies to nearly every animal that gets hunted. Hunters will take and destroy until the population collapses if the government doesn't have law enforcement continually keeping hunters in check.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Who the frick was keeping track of deer populations in 1500? Was the position of Informer of Deer a legit job?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Its better when you realize its US populations.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Same people who recorded the global temperature in 1500.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Tonto Many Fingers.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              We did in 2000s. You can guesstimate this shit based on remains, genetics and assorted stuff. It's not very accurate but generally gives you an idea of whether there was "a frickton of deer" or "very few deer".

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lying israelite
            hunters pay more money to conserve wildlife than all wildlife charities combined

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah because they're required to.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >No, the government is the greatest conservationist.
            The government spends money stolen from humans.

            Post your gun with timestamp.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >muh government
            Know-nothing communist detected. Teddy Roosevelt did the national park act and is possibly the most recognizable american hunter after Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett. FDR signed the Pittman-Bowes act and was a hunter, though he focused more on fishing after becoming wheelchair bound. They did the two most fundamental acts for wildlife management by, with, and for hunters.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >says it wasn't government
              >cites laws passed by the government that restricted individuals and granted the government power to regulate them
              >talks about how government officials acting in their official capacity were the greatest conservationists
              Yes. Thank you for making my point lol.

              >No, the government is the greatest conservationist.
              The government spends money stolen from humans.

              Post your gun with timestamp.

              >angsty libertarian noises
              lol, anarchism (and its diet flavors) is for morons. All hunters acting on their own without strict government enforcement are able to accomplish is appending the phrase "extinction was caused by overhunting" to the end of a species's wiki article.

              lying israelite
              hunters pay more money to conserve wildlife than all wildlife charities combined

              And they don't contribute out of the kindness of their hearts. They are taxed and charged money for their hunting permits and equipment. The government then uses that money.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lol, anarchism (and its diet flavors) is for morons
                Post gun with timestamp

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did something happen in the early 1900's that wpuld lead to people killing more dear, even poaching? Must have been something great, probably depressing to see that kind of desperation.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Lelno, the graph reflects the population boom from the industrial revolution leading to overhunting.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            They are the greatest conservationist because they put the most money into the regulating body through the tags and equipment they buy and most aren't too upset by the idea of it. The overall idea of how the US uses the tagging method is probably the best in the world for conservation. Sometimes there's a janky implementation like unclear boundaries and difficulty getting the tag depending on the state but the idea is solid.
            >have designated employees for counting and enforcing wildlife law to get a rough estimate of specie in a zone
            >use historical data to determine how much of that population is excess
            >issue tags for projected elimination results
            >if too many hunters not enough tags begin raffle + point system for buying tags where if you don't get drawn for the tags then next issuing you have a preference point for drawing over those who don't.
            >If too many tags not enough hunters then open access to tags and reduce price. If even more than that introduce single stamp with a daily limit.
            >all proceeds go to preventing poaching, counting again, and incentivizing keeping public land open.
            >I don't remember which equipment taxes specifically go toward the same fund but I know it's shooting related.
            It's a good idea. The large full time organized body does the job individual hunters can't of keeping track of game then pre-setup the rules and limits. Sometimes there's buttholes wardens and dumb laws but overall a good idea.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    we kill and eat wild animals because we want to eat them. There aren't a lot of mental gymnastics to make

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I already have to worry about winter jackets, which are more resistive than corpulent, morally bad, fat people.

    Expansion is pretty much a meme tbh.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fat thread?

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I worked with a really weird fat tall guy that was always pissed, on edge and carried. If he went postal anyone would've needed FMJs.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Humans also dont have thick fur and skin, and bears have denser muscle, really fat people barely have any muscle

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If it did, most of as anons would be bulletproof

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