Why does HIMARS get all the publicity?

Why does HIMARS get all the publicity? Tornado is definitely better than it and Uragan, Smerch and TOS-1 are comparably good rocket artillery systems.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vatnik cope post, please move on

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the PrepHole makes a difference

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Underrated

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine
          >no tigers
          Apologize

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But does the Tiger has aids?
            I think (you) need to apologize

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they're not Rossiyan T-I-G-E-R-S that's for sure(

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >accurate to 5 to 10km
        The worst part is
        I can't even tell if this is shitposting or not

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It’s a shitpost but is more truthful than the stated specs. In all honesty if they claimed it was 500-1000m that wouldn’t be terrible for what they intended it for. If your bombarded a large area or a city than some dispersion isn’t the worst thing. There’s no excuse for why it couldn’t be more accurate but it would still work

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You cheeky cunt

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Subtlety, a rare bird in these parts.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't see what I'm supposed to be seeing

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they slipped a k into the accuracy
        so the joke is that the russian missiles can only hit a target the size of a state fair

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well the state fair was full of nazi's and needed to be denazified.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vatniks are basically white morons so it's good.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    himars gps duided rockets actually getting used and reliably hit their targets

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      8 wheels > 6 wheels
      Checkmate gay.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Enjoy your 45-ton behemoth struggling to cross bridges that HIMARS can zip right across and being slower than a tracked vehicle like the M270.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tornado accurate 5-10m

    Lol, lmao.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No he's right.
      Within a rage of 5 to 10 meters from the TEL, they're very accurate.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, he's lying vatmoron.

        Tornado sucking HIMAR ass.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Reread it gay.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You’re reading comprehension isn’t very good

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Like all Russian paper specs sheets, they're bullshit add a 0 on the end of the accuracy distance and it's probably more accurate.
        50-100 meters if they're lucky.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Another person who lacks reading comprehension.
          >accurate 5 meters form the TEL
          >not accuracy of 5m CEP

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Such a good shitpost gone unappreciated. I enjoyed it anon.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because if Russians had access to such gear, they could simply copy the tactics Ukrainians have been employing as of lately

    but they haven't, so they don't have access to such gear

    *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~))

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where are they tho.

      is it actually deployed and in use, or just vaporware?

      No, he's lying vatmoron.

      Tornado sucking HIMAR ass.

      >Glonass
      >accurate
      Lol, lmao even.
      t. surveyor

      Glonass is more accurate than GPS in far northern hemisphere.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No it isn't retard 😀

        Why are Russian lies always like this? X is clearly better than Y, the vatnik: "Actually Y is better if Z applies (it isn't)".

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're the fucking retard, I'm guessing muh Russians took over Wikipedia from chud shills like you?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            to be fair, when talking military equipment, the signal those HIMARS are using are likely the super sekret ultra precision GPS signal, just like I imagine the slavs copied so the true accuracy of these systems is probably unknown.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The source for that is bbc article from 10+ years ago... and its just a quote from russian official
            >"We now use a two-signal receiver that supports both GPS and Glonass. For instance, in the northern latitudes getting a GPS signal is problematic - we therefore use the Russian system," Anatoly Perminov, the chief of Roscosmos, said in an exclusive interview with BBC News
            Other source is some book by whatever irish author about "rebirth" of russian space program from 2007
            >...primary degree in History and Political Science from Dublin University (Trinity College) and a MA in economic and social history from University College Dublin...

            I guess thats its hato-bros, glonass is just better in the north

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >WAAAHHHH TRANNIESSS
            And the vatmoron reveals himself as he always does. Can't help it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Glonass is more accurate than GPS in far northern hemisphere.
          maybe? but most of the GIS info in the world, and the same shit Russians are using when they carry around their civvie tier Garmins, are all WGS84 and built for GPS.

          >Glonass is more accurate than GPS in far northern hemisphere.
          Wow. You are so fucking stupid.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS

          Read first and fourth paragraphs, then apologize for your insults. It's just your ignorance speaking, after all.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Spec Pooster has joined the chat.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            again, this is based on a theoretical model of the shape of the earth though. ideally one would use both to exploit their different orbitals, but for military application, that's retarded as fuck given all these spook systems have some cryptographically encrypted subchannel that gives much more precise information to the point that these subtleties matter little, assuming they map well.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, our military GPS is more accurate than civilian, and they can "shift" it for civilian devices.

              >WAAAHHHH TRANNIESSS
              And the vatmoron reveals himself as he always does. Can't help it.

              American, retired USMC. Don't like legit technical info and evidence on a weapons board? Go shill somewhere else. Super organic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >American, retired USMC
                from ohio oblast

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/qy7Cfuo.png

                [...]
                [...]

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS

                Read first and fourth paragraphs, then apologize for your insults. It's just your ignorance speaking, after all.

                >seething over "discord trannies"
                You realise 4chan has a discord, that they use to coordinate posting and it's also populated with large numbers of chuds, right?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Some schizo been seething because some meming "NAFO" discord has discords rules as its rules so it doesn't get banned, and like 2 of them talked about raiding /chug/.
                Since open invite servers with no rules and moron spam end up deleted in hours usually, most server owners either private that shit, or have rules just like discords.

                Some 4chanmoron schizoid keeps spamming the posts of some random open discord so hard and saying LOOK LOOK GLOWmoronS ARE PRO UKRAINE SPAMMERS, and linking open fucking discord server where literally anyone can post.
                They spammed it so hard even the mods started deleting the threads lmao. /chug/gers have been desperately trying to narrative control over there, claiming even the mods are in on it. Completely insane retardation.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i've suspected NAFO was a psyop for a while but triggering poltards makes me approve. tax dollars well spent.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >American, retired USMC.
                Sure thing, fellow "American". From which Oblast?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >American, retired USMC.
                No you aren’t. You are too grammatically correct for a marine

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I was a marine from Ohio oblast therefore I'm qualified to speak about GPS

                fuck off gay and say you're from the space force next time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/LiVVe2R.png

                the best part of this is that you can see very clearly that it is not a direct hit
                muh glonass accuracy best in world xaxaxaxa
                have a nice day dumb vatnik

                >IIRC the last one they built was the T34
                >T-64
                >Malyshev Factory, Kharkiv, Ukraine
                >T-80UD
                >Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building Design Bureau
                you're marine alright, in sense you're retarded

                >IIRC the last one they built was the T34
                >T-64
                >Malyshev Factory, Kharkiv, Ukraine
                >T-80UD
                >Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building Design Bureau
                you're marine alright, in sense you're retarded

                picrel, kys
                >Malyshev Factory, Kharkiv, Ukraine
                "Finished tanks were assembled in several plants, but Soviet industrial planning prevented any region from being able to establish independent arms production. Components and sub-assemblies were produced in different factories, the Malyshev Factory specializing in engines and transmissions."

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >In parallel with the T-80U and Russia in general, the Morozov Bureau in Ukraine developed a diesel-powered version, the T-80UD
                b-but that doesn't count because Soviets didn't allow all parts to be created in one place, therefore all Soviet tanks are actually Russian!
                KYS moron

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Builds engine and transmission
                >We build tanks here!
                My Chevy truck has an engine from Thailand, is the truck considered to be built in thailand?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >design a tank, produce parts of it, create variations of it after Soviet union broke up
                >no, it doesn't count, it's Russian tank, RUSSIAAAAAN

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >design a tank, produce parts of it, create variations of it after Soviet union broke up
                >no, it doesn't count, it's Russian tank, RUSSIAAAAAN

                Shit's funnier. T-80 was originally created by just stealing components developed for contemporary versions of T-64 because muscovites wanted to have their own good tank. T-80U was different because T-64 was completely shelved by then but still basically builds on the same foundation.

                Meanwhile T-80UD is an updated T-80U with a good engine, so it's basically gone full circle. Fyi, ukrainians chose the tank because the only chioce they had was either T-80s or T-80UDs.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My C6 corvette uses the same rod bearings as my first gen Camaro, HA THEY STOLE THEM SO FUNNY

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                most mentally stable Vatnik

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rod bearings
                >entire systems
                same thing really.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes, our military GPS is more accurate than civilian, and they can "shift" it for civilian devices.

                They stopped introducing artificial errors into civilian GPS in 2000.
                Yes, 22 years ago, get with the times, retard boot.
                >In May 2000, at the direction of President Bill Clinton, the U.S. government ended its use of Selective Availability in order to make GPS more responsive to civil and commercial users worldwide.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks Slick Willie, didn't know that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Huh I hope they still are following that

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are. Before that change civvy GPS was +/-10m. Now you can see better accuracy than that on your phone or car/truck GPS app.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which, incidentally, is why Russian aircraft use civilian GPS devices instead of Glonass.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The data accessible by civilians is the coarse-acquisition (C/A) code on the L1 (1575.42MHz) frequency. And actually lesser known is that all of the GPS satellites launched since 2005 also transmit the new civilian-accessible L2C code on the L2 (1227.60) MHz frequency. (It's also worth mentioning that even before the L2C signal became available, some civilian GPS modules used techniques that help improve accuracy by using the L2 transmission. They don't have to decrypt the signal, but just measuring the signal itself can help improve positioning.)

                The military have a few more toys to play with, in addition to C/A on L1, and L2C on L2, they also have access to the encrypted P(Y) data being sent on both the L1 and the L2 frequencies. And this allows them to perform ionosphere correction as mentioned by other answers. Since 2005, the military also get access to their new M-code signals being transmitted on both L1 and L2, which will increase accuracy and reliability further.

                In the future, the GPS system will get a few more features. In addition to more L2C satellites, the C/A signal on L1 will be upgraded to what's called L1C, which increases performance and reliability. The L5 frequency (1176.45MHz) will also start to be used for a new civilian-accessible "Safety of Life" signal. For the military, new GPS satellites will have an additional directional antenna which can be rotated to selectively increase the strength of the M-code signal in a particular location on earth.

                Further on, perhaps the L4 frequency (1379.913MHz) might even be used for additional ionosphere correction.

                So you can see that the military get access to quite a lot more data than civilians, and therefore military GPS can achieve better accuracy and reliability.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sauce on this?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://t.me/archirai_art/430

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Much appreciated anon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ty anon. That image he posted irritated me.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/Xez9Qsb.jpg

            You're the fucking retard, I'm guessing muh Russians took over Wikipedia from chud shills like you?

            >wikipedia
            No. Now I'm laughing even fucking harder.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >cannot into public knowledge and basic geometry
              not my problem

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >give website money
                >now I can edit things
                There's a reason it's not allowed as a credible source of information, books are. I don't apologize to pathological liars.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >GLONASS position accuracy is 5-10m
            >GPS 3.5-7.8m.
            Are you ok, retard?

            And before you reply to me with more vatnik delusion, you might want to double check your latitudes.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I didn't post that. But i'm glad you pulled it out of your ass to show everyone.

              >https://www.e3s-conferences.org/articles/e3sconf/pdf/2019/20/e3sconf_isgnss2018_01019.pdf

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Glonass can sometimes be more accurate at sea at high latitudes - I know that for a fact. However, is it useful for this conflict or relevant given a lack of guided munitions that can use it - No. Do I trust its reliability versus other guidance options - No. Would I actually try to use it versus Galileo / GPS - No.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Glonass is more accurate than GPS in far northern hemisphere.
        maybe? but most of the GIS info in the world, and the same shit Russians are using when they carry around their civvie tier Garmins, are all WGS84 and built for GPS.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Glonass is more accurate than GPS in far northern hemisphere.
        Wow. You are so fucking stupid.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous


        how can you tell its not just smerch firing normal rockets?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >one of the few guided munitions russia both has and actually uses
            >still a wide area dispersal cluster munition
            Lol. Sure shows a lot of confidence in that guidance

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              we've gone from
              >huh stupid russian mlrs doesnt exist
              to
              >ha stupid guided munition has bomblets

              Want some videos of it wiping out a football field sized area of hohols from 50 miles away? Or would that get the thread nuked?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                delusional

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My point was more that if you're aiming to drop cluster bomblets over a wide area, the benefit of precision guided munitions is somewhat lessened.
                Not really aiming to avoid collateral with that, are you?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Correct. There are multiple types but the one i've seen hard evidence of was the cluster type. I could speculate like all the other tards ITT (who probably will still shill that it doesn't exist) but haven't seen proof.

                I like TOS-1 the best https://files.catbox.moe/yh1hei.MP4

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Want some videos of it wiping out a football field sized area of hohols from 50 miles away?
                Yes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                hey vatnik, try to not use the word Nuke in every post you make.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I asked about video you posted as a proof first, if you werent sure about video why not just post this pic right away?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I couldn't find it right away, I've archived a lot of photos and video.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                AAAAAAAAHHH MOTHERLAND

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ha ha, Motherland!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, the AliExpress special? LMAO
            https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/one_of_a_kind_russian_guidance_system_of_the_tornado_s_missile_is_based_on_chips_acquired_via_aliexpress_photo-3766.html

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wake me up when they blow up anything, HIMARS accuracy is clearly a lie, it's not 5-10 meters, 1-2 meters

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's artillery, the kill radius is very large. 3 meters doesn't really matter.
          We've seen lots of videos of drone guided artillery from the Russian side, pretending it doesn't exist means you haven't been paying attention.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >3 meters doesn't really matter
            matters when you're trying to hit a bridge
            >We've seen lots of videos of drone guided artillery
            And HIMRAS works on Russians 80km behind lines where Ukraine has no drones

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Matters if it's a warhead that can't take out a bridge, yes. Russia has Kalibr for that, with a 1000lb warhead and 2000+km range.

              Russia is using its artillery for its traditional purpose, clearing out large swathes of infantry and light armor.

              Ukraine is using HIMARS as a makeshift ballistic missile with a small 90lb warhead.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia has Kalibr for that, with a 1000lb warhead and 2000+km range.
                don't forget 200m CEP lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia has Kalibr for that, with a 1000lb warhead and 2000+km range
                and it can't destroy single small bridge near Odessa

                seems to work fine. Vidrel

                Tornado takes forever to reload, tubes need to be loaded individually. HIMARS takes like 10 minutes, pod can be loaded all at once. Also, at least according to Russian telegram sources, Tornado doesn't achieve anything like that accuracy in practice.

                Yes, it's much older tech. It needs to be aimed manually also. However there are a lot more of them than Ukies have HIMARS

                >American, retired USMC.
                No you aren’t. You are too grammatically correct for a marine

                My favorite flavor of crayon is grape

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                seems to work fine when they have functioning ones
                otherwise they'd be using them right now quite a lot, innit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I believe that was an Iskander. Cruise missiles don't attack straight down. My point was; nyet, accuracy is fine.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >My favorite flavor of crayon is grape
                Fuck me. A literate marine

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the best part of this is that you can see very clearly that it is not a direct hit
                muh glonass accuracy best in world xaxaxaxa
                have a nice day dumb vatnik

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It wasn't a miss, it was a direct hit right in the fucking middle. Picrel. Ukie MLRS was under the canopy out front. It was fucking leveled, and the garden gnomes on CNN kvetched about the "sports center" for days.
                >xaxaxaxa
                what?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The missile missed. Explosions generally don't care if you're a few meters off.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ukraine had a pretty lit breakthrough in kharkov and you are coping over a 5 month old video

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >vatnik in charge of understanding CEP

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia has Kalibr for that, with a 1000lb warhead and 2000+km range
                and it can't destroy single small bridge near Odessa

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Imprecise artillery of any sort is a thing of past.
                GMLRS and ATACMS are the a new tradition.
                Embrace it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ukraine has US satellites for guidance.
              (and, we learned yesterday; super secret Harpoon missiles for sinking Russkie ships)
              Who's fighting this war, anyways?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >(and, we learned yesterday; super secret Harpoon missiles for sinking Russkie ships)
                what is this?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/how-the-u-s-rushed-harpoon-anti-ship-missiles-to-ukraine

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/pVz13FE.jpg

                https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/how-the-u-s-rushed-harpoon-anti-ship-missiles-to-ukraine

                >Russians STILL don't have a counter to 80s American equipment

                loving every laugh

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                STop war

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                who the fuck created this motherfucking chart? he should be hanged for that
                t. equity research associate

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Forgot success rate:
                THAAD: 90%+
                S-400: LMAO IT'S GARBAGE

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can I see the S-400 hit a target at 400km, please? Or ANY test footage? I can show multiple THAAD tests, and actual confirmed combat hits. The rebadged S-300MV known as the S-400 is shit. And its paper specs mean nothing.

                THAAD:

                A THAAD in Alaska intercepted a missile launched just north of Hawaii. Flight Test THAAD (FTT)-18: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGEdLW5ddcE

                THAAD Terminal High Altitude Area Defense missile system 14th TEST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S65JESDwUTU

                The U.S. Missile Defense Agency, Ballistic Missile Defense System Operational Test Agency, and U.S. Army soldiers of the E-62 Battery, 11th Air Defense Artillery Brigade, conducted an intercept test of the THAAD. This was flight test THAAD-23 on August 30, 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0zqSUqUuCI

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >US Missile Defense Test Record

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Operational intercepts by US systems.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It can probably hit an airliner at FL360 flying straight at it at 400km. The missile will get to it with 0KE left, but probably just kinetically possible. If the pilot turns more than one degree the range drops by 3/4s though.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly.
                Here are some very early THAAD tests during DEMVAL in the mid-90s. The spiral right after launch is an energy bleeding maneuver, and not the missile going out of control. You can see just how maneuverable the missile is, though.

                More tests:

                THAAD and Patriot PAC-3 working together to intercept a target: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SHWxbZE7k8

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why does it need to bleed energy at launch?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For targets not at maximum range it burns off excess propellant to reduce weight so that it will be at maximum velocity at intercept.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > targets down to 10 meters off the ground
                Is this counting the times the missile boomerangs back into the TEL?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                S-400 only has a range of 60 km against ballistic missiles. THAAD missiles have a maximum speed of mach 8.24 and can engage targets at reentry speed (mach 23).

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              STOP

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Implessive. All HIMARS destroyed by
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      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Glonass is more accurate than GPS in far northern hemisphere
        Even if that’s true, who cares? Who is fighting there? It doesn’t matter in mainland Europe. Where they currently can’t beat a country a fraction of their size

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Glonass
        Take your meds, even Ladas dont use glonass

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Majority of consumer electronics have software to support both. Depending on where you are, one is better than the other,

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one uses glonass
            Even russian army use tourist graded garmins in their choppers
            Go have a nice day

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I use glonass. In my consumer grade Garmin.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Glonass is more accurate than GPS in far northern hemisphere.
        Maybe north pole lmao. In Europe its unusable. Even fucking BeiDou is more accurate.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        did we hit anything?!?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >we
          ?
          Plenty of well cooked long pork from TOS-1
          https://files.catbox.moe/yh1hei.MP4

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >?
            its what the gunner asked the commander after firing that salvo

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thats not how GPS works you utter retard, it has the same accuracy everywhere.

        https://i.imgur.com/xIIsA2D.jpg

        Yes, our military GPS is more accurate than civilian, and they can "shift" it for civilian devices.
        [...]
        American, retired USMC. Don't like legit technical info and evidence on a weapons board? Go shill somewhere else. Super organic.

        >our military GPS is more accurate than civilian
        Is that why your fighter pilots are using western GPS and your missiles can't hit shit?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          GPS IS western. Alphabet bois can shift the civilian band to make it inaccurate, kind of like a self-spoof.
          >your fighter pilots
          read again. "OUR"
          Russians may be hiding in your closet, but i'm not one of them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Russians may be hiding in your closet, but i'm not one of them
            Calm down moron. We're just making fun of you since you like /chug/ging vatnik cum come so much.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        indeed it is

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what's the app on the smartphone?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Glonass is more accurate than GPS in the far bother hemisphere.

        Russians confirmed best counter battery at the north pole. Canadians worry briefly until they remember Russian logistics

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >GLONASS-"""guided"""
    at least its an appropriate acronym

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where are they tho.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is no point in this bait anymore. There is no longer any discussion of "look look the spec sheet says!" any more. The on the ground results have already been shown and you can't hide behind tired lines about "not underestimating our enemies" anymore.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Glonass
    >accurate
    Lol, lmao even.
    t. surveyor

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is it actually deployed and in use, or just vaporware?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is a weak Armatard type post.
    The reality is HIMARS is better and uke doctrine is better. That's why Russians obsess over HIMARS.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    updated

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tornado is definitely better than it and Uragan, Smerch and TOS-1 are comparably good rocket artillery systems.
    Yeah, think about the number of wheels.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >weight in combat position 43.700kg
      say sike right now

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So, where are they?

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the expensive hinars toy is an american toy designed in the capitalistic interest of generating income. the american dollar is the main exportation with such senseless systems

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >GLONASs
    Found your problem.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    isn't it funny that the weapons the USA sent Ukraine unironically turned out to be wunderwaffen after the vatniks kept calling them that for months?
    Guess 10-20 year old tech actually is a wunderwaffe against cold war technology and vapor wave

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tornado takes forever to reload, tubes need to be loaded individually. HIMARS takes like 10 minutes, pod can be loaded all at once. Also, at least according to Russian telegram sources, Tornado doesn't achieve anything like that accuracy in practice.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/kjWPX6L.jpg

      Why does HIMARS get all the publicity? Tornado is definitely better than it and Uragan, Smerch and TOS-1 are comparably good rocket artillery systems.

      Also Russian ISTAR C4 seems to be shit. Can't shoot at very much if it takes you too long to acquire targets and go sensor-to-shooter.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trolling is supposed to be subtle.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >https://www.newsweek.com/russia-missile-launch-malfunction-belgorod-video-1739075
    >"The Russian army launched six S-300 air defense missiles in the direction of Kharkiv in northeast Ukraine, however, one of the missiles deviated off-course, and hit a district in the Russian city of Belgorod, near the Ukrainian border."
    muh specs

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No video of event, trust me guys
      muh specs

      >Export model, right? Lol

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tornado is better!
    so why aren't they using it alongside their su57s and armatas? why are they sending t62s?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They aren't sending T62's, those are coming from DPR/LPR
      Both of my deployments in Afghanistan, not a single F22 was ever seen in theatre. Maybe you can draw the logical conclusion between that and why the SU57 isn't in Ukraine.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They aren't sending T62's, those are coming from DPR/LPR
        > those are coming from DPR/LPR
        Russia gives LDNR those tanks not that they have those tanks by themselves

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Same could be said for Ukraine's tanks. IIRC the last one they built was the T34

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >IIRC the last one they built was the T34
            >T-64
            >Malyshev Factory, Kharkiv, Ukraine
            >T-80UD
            >Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building Design Bureau
            you're marine alright, in sense you're retarded

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why would you need to see f22 in afghan coin? su57 isnt in ukraine simply because they arent combat ready and even if they were there are barely any of them and they are irreplaceable by now, losing just one can be devastating propaganda loss aswell. same goes for t14 and other meme shit from recent victory parades

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not a single F22 was ever seen in theatre
        Are you implying America DIDN'T have complete air dominance in Afghanistan you fucking retard? Why would they need a dedicated ASF vs an opponent that didn't have any aircraft at all?

        Meanwhile in Ukraine hilariously Russia doesn't even have air dominance at all and the Ukrainian AF is actually getting stuff done on the battlefield! If Russia was capable of doing air to air or SEAD they would be. They just aren't.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Maybe you can draw the logical conclusion between that and why the SU57 isn't in Ukraine.

        >russia does not have air superiority otherwise htey would be sending bombers to kiev
        >the su-57 is supposed to be multirole
        >the su-57 is supposed to be stealthy
        >dropping bombs in air space with lots of air defenses is the purpose of multirole stealth aircraft
        >su-57 is not being used
        >therefore it's incapable of doing the job it was designed to do

        embarrassing

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >supposed to
          >supposed to
          >I'm completely familiar with russian tactics
          >it's incapable
          no, moron.
          It's
          Not
          Needed

          and i'm sure they don't want one falling into NATO hands.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i'm sure they don't want one falling into NATO hands.
            Since Su-57 is supposed to be unbeatable stealth fighter of fifth generation type, logically the only way that NATO would get their hands on one is if the pilot defects. Are you saying that the pilots would immediately defect if they’re deployed over Ukraine? Because that’s a GULAGing

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              NATO already tried that. Funny story.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >osint website trying to bribe pilots
                why your bullshit always have to be that unreal?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are voice recordings of the communications lol. They got played. How have you not heard of this?
                http://web.archive.org/web/20220725075044/https://www.rt.com/russia/559528-fsb-ukraine-spies-hijack-warplanes/
                >but but muh RT propaganda
                kek

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There are voice recordings of the communications lol
                yeah it means it's legit lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>but but muh RT propaganda
                Yes. It's the same reason nobody posts CNN shit here. They're poZZed af

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
            just unreal cope

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >w-we di-didn't want a-air superiority anyway!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and i'm sure they don't want one falling into NATO hands.

            Yes it would be a shame to see a repeat of the MiG-25 situation

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              NATO already tried that. Funny story.

              >i'm sure they don't want one falling into NATO hands.
              Since Su-57 is supposed to be unbeatable stealth fighter of fifth generation type, logically the only way that NATO would get their hands on one is if the pilot defects. Are you saying that the pilots would immediately defect if they’re deployed over Ukraine? Because that’s a GULAGing

              here's the play-by-play for you
              >ukrop recruiters try to recruit russkie pilot
              >pilot pretends to be a defector, but acts wary of just flying across the front line, what if the ukrop antiair shoots him?
              >ukrop recruiters bite the hook and tell him all about the map and the locations of antiair installations, and show a few safe paths that will be made on certain times
              >pilot tells all of that to his superiors, superiors plan operation to artillery the ukrop antiair

              Now the westside media publishes this cope about how Ukraine knew it all along.
              Unfortunately the proof of who fucked who is in the pudding.

              Russian air force and artillery used the intel gathered do destroy Ukrainian defensive positions and the intel chief In charge of the operation (as well as the head of the SBU) are fired.

              They also published the audio of the SBU spooks detailing everything including their photos before the article in my previous post came out.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Source: Trust me bro

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are voice recordings of the communications lol. They got played. How have you not heard of this?
                http://web.archive.org/web/20220725075044/https://www.rt.com/russia/559528-fsb-ukraine-spies-hijack-warplanes/
                >but but muh RT propaganda
                kek

                >voice recordings

                Lmao imagine being this gullible
                But I bet when the """recordings""" of """Russian soldiers calling home""" surfaced, you were the first to call bullshit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you hear? There is a restless Ukrainian fighter pilot that has shot down over 30 Russian jets, she is going with the nickname “Ghost of Kyiv”

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                last known location: your head, living rent free

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >makes fun of others for believing reddit tier marvel hero stories
                >immediately believes convoluted Tom Clancy tier novel plots from RT, no questions asked

                What did vatniksister mean by this

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They literally posted offerings all over the internet before it happened.
                >https://cis.org/Arthur/Ukraine-Offers-Cash-and-Freedom-Defecting-Russian-Pilots
                Then a month or so later a russian pilot did a bait and switch. Not too hard to believe, sounds like typical glowie shit. I saw a pretty extensive video, including interview with pilot.. Not gonna go digging for it, ~~*NAFO*~~ and nuPrepHole is going to talk shit anyways.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >event A happened, therefore sequence of events B, C, D, E and F happened as well, no I don't have a source trust me bro
                Step up your shill game.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                he goes by the name CANDYMAN now, you best watch your tongue

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >pilot tells all of that to his superiors, superiors plan operation to artillery the ukrop antiair
                Lmao

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Here's how it really went:
                >Russomoron shills make up dumb fanfiction.
                >Try to spread it around.
                >Nobody with two braincells to rub together believes it for a second.

                Many such cases.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Both sides are retarded so I can see this Mickey Mouse shit happening

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oooooooh i get it, you guys just need to switch the names of the countries and then we get why one of the players doesnt have AA anymore :V

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >bombing bases and other strategic targets within ukraine that are covered by SAMs isn't needed
            >while ukrops keep flying sorties and their logistics hubs are undamaged

            weird cope

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Cruise missiles don't exist
              for Ukraine, maybe. They should totally send pilots into a warzone absolutely littered with NATO-delivered MANPADS though, i'll call Putler right now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                russian cruise missile spam has become virtually nil for months now, they resorted to throwing s300s at targets with even worse results than the 50m+ cep we were seeing with kalibr. an actual aircraft would undeniably be superior

                >NATO-delivered MANPADS
                the entire point of stealth is that you don't need to fly that low. is su-57 not stealthy??

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            consider the fact that losing even an SU57, any other wunderwaffel, or mobilizing is all considered too high a price for winning this war next time you buy "w-we'll use the nukes!" cope

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They have the world's best AA systems, why send an air superiority fighter (that doesn't carry bombs(?) to an AA heavy zone just to battle it out with a rapidly dwindling supply of old MIGs?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They have the world's best AA systems
                they're spectacularly good at making a show when they pop on the ground, I'll give you that much, but in actually achieving desired results? well maybe it's the russian between instrument and chair that's the problem

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Patriot AA missile
                2 friendly aircraft shot down
                1 enemy aircraft shot down (used by isrealis)
                Stellar.

                >Meanwhile we see S300 blowing bayraktar and MIGs out of the sky weekly, 1960'S S200 shoots down F117 stealth fighter..
                One is proven, the other is vaporware.
                thus, "Best"
                t. former zogbot, NATO hater

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >not needed
            Yeah bombing key enemy targets with zero risk isn’t important at all. Taking our HIMARS so you can advance again doesn’t matter.
            >and i'm sure they don't want one falling into NATO hands.
            If they are as good as they claim, why would any get shot down? How would nato find one? Are they even better than western planes? (they aren't better)

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Same reason Turkey isn't getting F35's with their S400 package. Nothing is truly stealth. All are vulnerable to low frequency radar, and extremely vulnerable to IR seekers.
              >No, must use all cards in the deck!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Same reason Turkey isn't getting F35's with their S400 package.
                That’s not the same reason at all. It’s that we don’t trust turkroaches with state of the art fighters.
                >must use all the cards in the deck
                When you are fighting a costly stalemate at best and losing at worst, keeping your best items in reserve doesn’t make sense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That’s not the same reason at all. It’s that we don’t trust turkroaches with state of the art fighters.

                Who is "we", Greek and Armenian diaspora? Since they're the ones that scrap or block everything else involving Turkey.
                An F-35 with strings attached is functionally useless at the end of the day. Turkey's domestic industry can handle any threat that doesn't already involve NATO stepping in.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Who is "we",
                Anyone with a brain. Why would you trust Turkey?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>No, must use all cards in the deck!
                when you lose this war, you're gonna ask yourself "man, why didnt we use all the options we had while we still had them?"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                weird cope. do ukronazis have s400 and super iads now? that's integrated air defense system, not the super aids that russia has

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            bro we have F-22s and F-35s we don't fucking need to examine any SU57 wreckage, besides to collectively point and laugh at it, as is time honored American Aerospace RnD tradition.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Both of my deployments in Afghanistan, not a single F22 was ever seen in theatre
        We didn’t need F22s because of complete air superiority. Older planes were fine. Hell we probably could have air superiority in Afghanistan using F86 Sabres with modern munitions.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't be too hard : he said he was ex-USMC. Keep it simple.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Afghanistan didn't have a fucking air force you retard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the gloves are still on

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >TOS-1
    Whooping range of 5 (five) kilometers
    Impressive indeed

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Goood !!!

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    STOP WAR

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can someone please tell me why we are supposed to trust what russians say when they were unable to intercept HIMARS despite pinky promising so?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They have, Ukraine figured out how to get them through; they shoot a bunch of unguided rockets to overwhelm the AA.

      >give website money
      >now I can edit things
      There's a reason it's not allowed as a credible source of information, books are. I don't apologize to pathological liars.

      For normies like you, it's generally accepted to be the truth. I included a scientific paper as well, feel free to read it.
      >Pathological liar
      point one out.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They have
        do you have any proof to back it up?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          last one i'm uploading..

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >bridge is already smoking from hits before AA starts working

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >GLONASS guided accurate to 5-10m
    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't believe the russgear fanboys still dare to show their faces around these parts. You clowns have been utterly humiliated and no specposting will save you.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >TOS-1
    pure trash

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >weld some scrap metal together
    >copy specs of comparable nato system and up the numbers a bit
    >see, russia strong!!!

    Pathetic

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Right, they should be buying K-239 instead, which is double the fire at 1/3 the price of HIMARS.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They should be hanging Zelenskyy on a lamppost and agreeing to terms.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're really begging for it, aren't you, vata?

        My C6 corvette uses the same rod bearings as my first gen Camaro, HA THEY STOLE THEM SO FUNNY

        T-80, T-80B were created by literally transplanting T-64's systems into it from years prior. Ease up on russian cum, you've had enough.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And Putin should back down like his CIA handlers want him to lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They should be exterminating the russian vemrin to the last man, womand and child.

        FTFY.

        I'm a moderate.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The northern hemisphere should be turned into a nuclear wasteland and cleaned off of human life so the Global South can recolonize it with proper humans this time.

          I'm a moderate.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Tell me you're a garden gnome without telling me you're a garden gnome
            kill all vatniks, return to khazaria!!!one!
            It's all so tiresome.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              bro go outside, youre wasting your life whiteknighting a pathetic dictatorship on the internet

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >so the Global South can recolonize it with proper humans
            Yeah, Africans, Indians, South Americans, Arabs and South East Asians....you didn't think your comment through did you?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Africans and poos
            >repopulate humanity
            Pick one

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They should be planting many MANY more sunflowers.

        Fertilizer is the only thing vatniks are good for, the bloody lot of you.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >TOS-1

    You do realize that thing has a range of like 3km right? Its barely considered artillery

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    quit watching fakenews

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wouldn’t be weird if US gear just is better than Rus gear
    that’s after all where russian entrepreneurs go

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We've talked about this before. Glonass sucks and
    >reloading tubes manually in 2022

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > TOS-1 are comparably good rocket artillery systems.
    moron, TOS-1 have a fucking 2 (two, II) km range

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >GLONASS guided
    yeah its shit. might as well guide it using the stars

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s something that Ukraine has and Russia doesn’t so propagandists emphasize its effectiveness
    If they were to talk about how effective Ukrainian grads are then the propaganda would backfire when people remember that Russia has 5x as many grads as Ukraine

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Hellfires are something that Ukraine has and Russia doesn’t so propagandists emphasize its effectiveness
      >If they were to talk about how effective S-13s are then the propaganda would backfire when people remember that Russia has 5x as many S-13s as Ukraine

      This is how retarded you fucking tourists sound.
      Hint: you can't blow up a barn that glowies point out on your map from 90km away and be out of dodge in 3 minutes with a GRAD.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    except none of your russian rockets are actually guided, by all indication GLONASS doesn't work, otherwise your pilots wouldn't be strapping commercial garmins to their dashboards

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >by all indication GLONASS doesn't work
      It works, it just has utter dogshit accuracy and reliability.
      Just like any other Russian knockoff of western shit, really.
      >Perst-3, JUSTASGOOD as the PEQ-15
      >at 50% extra weight
      >maybe a bit of a fuzzy laser
      >oh and don't let it rain on it or it'll die

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If Tornado is so much better and they have so many more systems, why haven't Russia been able to use it to devastate Ukrainian military infrastructure to such a point they can't organize let alone resist?

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >russian made
    >GLONASS guided
    found the problem

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The TOS-1A Sunburner thermobaric launchers are fucking deathtraps that even the Russians don't actually want to use because they're such deathtraps. They're relatively short range weapons (~10 km max) so they need to be heavily protected, but if any of those missiles takes a hit from anything they will incinerate the whole BTC.

    The Russians had one hit with an ATGM in Syria and it turned into a fucking mushroom cloud.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >height: 320cm vs 162cm
      >weight in combat configuration: 13696kg vs 58kg
      >number of guided: 6 vs 2
      >ammunition: GMLRSvs fists, spit
      >salvo length: 6/min vs 1.5s
      >navigation system: GPS vs optical, built-in computer
      >cost: >$5m vs $53/day
      >fuel type: gasoline vs spaghetti, chips
      >ecological standard: euro-3 vs russo-7
      >russification: no vs factory
      >amount: no more than 1500 vs 68m
      >trust in defense ministry press releases: no vs colossal

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Smerch and TOS-1 are comparably good

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >GLONASS guided
    LMAO, that system is like 40-50 years old anon. Most of its satellites fell down into atmosphere and got annihilated.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BTW the Tornado isn’t the direct competitor of HIMARS. The Russians made a similar containerized guided rocket launcher which I forget the name of right now. Anyone?

    Also the way they designate these things confuse the shit out of me. Ie, Tornado can refer to a whole vehicle system but also other systems which have been upgraded with new rockets?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are suffixes you can use to tell what is being referred to eg tornado-g and tornado-s

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Club-k, I think.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You Russians are so pathetic.

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