Why do some countries retain Foreign Legions?

Is there any military reasons for nations such as France & Spain have a separate unit comprised of foreigners?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there any military reasons for nations such as France & Spain have a separate unit comprised of foreigners?

    the voting population typically doesn't care about dead foreigner serving in the army.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you want your own people to die when you can use thirdies as a proxy? The countries with foreign legions tend to be ex-colonial powers who have colonies they can tap into for manpower in exchange for citizenship. Foreign legions are an entirely sensible concept, but they cant be your whole military because then you get roman empire problems and also moronic thirdies struggle with complex equipment.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >thirdies struggle with complex equipment
      All enlisted do this because they're moronic

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Remembering that video where people ranked themselves by IQ, and the white marine turned out to have a higher IQ than the ethnic looking university student. They need white men to die in their wars because war is actually complex, especially modern warfare.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the asvab is an iq test. If you have a high iq you go into something useful not combat roles.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he doesn't know

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Roman empire foreigners often performed better than actual romans by the end, and then the romans like usual decided to frick around. Not like the romans really had a choice of having a majority barbar army because there wasn't enough citizens signing up to deal with all the threats.

      Love the guys, but holy shit they were the cause of their own problems 90% of the time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Republic collapsed because the Senate didn't want to do tax and land reforms the Gracchi brothers promoted. Augustus would then do the tax and land reform anyways.

        It's fricking moronic.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The thing about the Roman army and foreigners is that Rome was incompetent at numerous forms of warfare that weren't native to Italy. Hoplite warfare it could do (early on), disciplined heavy infantry it could do, but stuff like cavalry it was hopelessly incompetent at. So it farmed out all those specialist jobs to foreigners who were good at it, and never bothered to pick up any lessons from them.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It limits foreign influence in the military and they're less scrutinized and more disposable. In France's case, they can keep them around their totally not colonies and it doesn't really matter to the French public exactly what they're doing there.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    LONG LIVE THE LEGION

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Spanish Legion aka "El Tercio de Extranjeros" gets more deployments abroad than the regular army, they have done anti-terrorism in north africa. Its different than the French Legion in that it only takes Foreigners from the former Spanish colonies of the Empire. All LATAM Spanish countries apply except Puerto Rico because its now a US territory. But from what I remember native Spaniards still make up a bulk of the Legion.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Its different than the French Legion in that it only takes Foreigners from the former Spanish colonies of the Empire. All LATAM Spanish countries apply except Puerto Rico
      That's an awfully big pool of recruits, I feel like they're not limiting themselves much and get native speakers into the bargain.

      https://i.imgur.com/eSXr4Lv.jpeg

      Is there any military reasons for nations such as France & Spain have a separate unit comprised of foreigners?

      >a separate unit comprised of foreigners
      If have willing migrants to your country who are somewhat resourceful and can pass a few basic exams and really want to live in your country and love fighting and killing...
      ...do you let them be students and cab drivers who cause trouble or do you make them professional killers who do what they couldn't stop themselves from doing anyway?

      For most of these people, it would be a French prison or a French uniform, the latter does more for France than costing money.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can people from Texas join?
      Cool way to get more gud with my Spanish.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OMG WHY ARE YOU SENDING OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO DIE FOR $thing
    vs
    >hey have you heard the news? a bunch of brown people from our foreign legion got bombed in... i'm not actually sure where that is, somewhere in asia I think? i never even knew we had land there

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Whats wrong with it? Basically Russia uses Foreign Legion right now, to evade full-scale mobilization like in Ukraine

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spain might have a military unit called "foreign legion" but you need to be a legal resident of the country to join. It's not really a "foreign legion" like france's.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I could be wrong but i remember anyone from LATAM could join but you had to show up physically in spain at a certain base to start the recruitment. So i guess youd need a visa at least.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not a foreign legion, its just called the Spanish Legion and allows citizens of the former empire to join (Excluding the US, Africa and Asia). So basically just Latin Americans.

      Can people from Texas join?
      Cool way to get more gud with my Spanish.

      No, just join the US Army lol

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The French Foreign Legion boasts a long and storied history, dating back to 1831. Here's a glimpse into its past:

    Origins (1831):Founded by King Louis-Philippe to bolster French forces in Algeria. Initially, it served as a way to integrate foreign nationals into the French military, especially those who fled neighboring countries or were unemployed soldiers.
    Early Deployments (1830s-1870s): The Legion played a crucial role in French colonial expansion, particularly in North Africa. They fought in the Algerian War, the Carlist Wars in Spain, and the Franco-Prussian War, where they were one of the few French units to achieve victories.
    World Wars (1914-1945):The Legion distinguished itself in both World Wars. During WWI, they suffered heavy casualties but played a key role in major battles like Verdun. In WWII, they fought bravely against Nazi Germany, most notably at the Battle of Narvik.
    Post-War Era (1945-present):The Legion participated in various Indochina and Cold War conflicts. Following the end of French Algeria in 1962, the Legion continued to serve France's global interests, taking part in operations in places like Bosnia, the Congo, and Afghanistan.

    Key Characteristics: Throughout its history, the Legion has been known for its elite training, strong sense of camaraderie (based on the motto "Legionnaire by Blood, Foreign by Law"), and willingness to fight for France regardless of nationality. Traditionally, recruits were offered anonymity, but this practice has been phased out in recent times.

    Today, the French Foreign Legion remains an active and respected unit of the French Army, attracting recruits from around the world.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've always considered the FFL to basically be the French version of Marv but for immigrants.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AI sludge posting should result in an instant permaban.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My grandfather was born as a french citizen ( french means white in the context of this time period ) in north africa colonies.

      Told me that when he was a kid he used to have to run past the legion base when he was going from his work at the bar to his house. Because the legion was still full of hard criminals.

      Unlike today where they added some scrutiny into their recruits past.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mainly to fight low intensity neocolonial conflicts and give the empty promise of gaining citizenship to dirt people. Granted, given what I've heard about the FFL, anyone able to handle that much bullshit and not frag their officer definitely has the patience and competence to become a citizen

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spain maintains a unit made up of Spanish-Moroccans called the Regulares stationed in Spanish cities in Morocco

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