Why do new revolvers keep coming out?
Why do they still exist at this point in history when we have so many better options and new technology that make them objectively worse?
Why do new revolvers keep coming out?
Why do new revolvers keep coming out?
Why do they still exist at this point in history when we have so many better options and new technology that make them objectively worse?
Me. I buy them. I like them.
All I want is a new production gas seal revolver, even single action, that I can put a can on but no, apparently I will own nothing and be happy
The pressure on magnum rounds would be too high for the cylinder and frame to endure reliably and would frick in a very short period of time, unless you made it so large that no one could reliably hold it
I'm fine even shooting 38spl +p or 45colt 15kPSI. But I can't even have that.
moron
Cast frame gun falls apart
>gas seal revolver impossible
Why not make it out of real forged steel?
Because the pressures will still eventually warp the frame where it is the most weak, in this case the top break latch
It would not be worth the investment to try and make anything other than a fancy gun you keep in your case that is super expensive per unit rather than making a shitload that are eventually all going to fall apart, much like
>hurr metallurgy hasn't advanced at all since the late 1800s
9mm has the same chamber pressure as .357 magnum (both are 35k PSI), and is slightly larger in diameter (.391" at the base vs .379") leading to slightly more force pushing back against the breech face at the same pressures. Swap in the comparable pressure 9mm in place of .357 magnum for any argument about how modern technology can't handle building a modernized version of a 100+ year old design in a modern cartridge, and it's clear how absolutely absurd those arguments are.
Well for one you are a fricking idiot in more ways than just being stupid, secondly revolvers have a small niche piece of the market and can never come back from that given they are objectively inferior to semi autos when it comes to doing what thy were literally made to do, there is a reason sidearms for military, police, isis etc are semi auto instead of revolvers, they are inferior weapons for offense and defense and really only exist for fuds and big game hunters who can't handle 10mm or shoulder a rifle/shotgun
>autistic shrieking about muh practicality
>post chain starts with someone talking about wanting a modern gas seal revolver specifically for fun purposes alone and not caring if it's single action only
The world would be better off if morons like you were banned from owning guns.
This looks like a star architects penthouse somehow.
Making a normal cylinder but which you just enclose with a rubber lined metal shell on each side seems like a far better solution. Slightly clunky reload, but it gets you past the dogshit trigger, and you wouldn't need special casings for best suppression.
1. The fricking action has no fricking bearing on this you fricking Slapper's Only, you can scale it with dimensions and metallurgy. Plausibly you may need to add a step to this for a high powered cartridge, as to make it work better, and you'd get a yet worse trigger in return, but it's ultimately a cylinder being cammed forward to let the chambers fit over the forcing cone, with extended brass casings providing a tight seal.
2. He's obviously not looking for Magnums
Become a decent hobby machinist then make one yourself. Not even kidding. John Browning had quite primitive equipment. Many of his designs predate even the Bridgeport milling machine, and you have a far greater variety of steels to work with.
It would be a fascinating project and could make you a famous guntuber with a nice long build video series. 45 Colt would be most mediagenic.
Browning tended to work in wood.
Once an idea was proven he worked with the company machinists to produce the type specimen.
>could make you a famous guntuber with a nice long build video series
Pretty much everything gun-related is kill on YT now. Building a whole gun from scratch would likely be an instaban. They banned that one guy for casting an AR lower out of soda cans, for example.
Doesn't hickhock still make bank or mitchuleck?
My biggest fear is that someone will bring one into production before I finish my b.eng and my design
the urbanite struggles to comprehend that there's animals larger than corgis
That is what rifles and shotguns are for, with larger magazines, bigger calibers and much MUCH more accuracy
This is so fricking stupid that I am just going to assume you have never held a firearm and are a child, you do know a compressed spring is under no wear, right?
Negligible wear, but still more sus than a revolver
>implying you can cc a shotgun or rifle
Want to know how I know you don't actually cc?
Pretty sure he was responding to the guy talking about hunting size calibers, moron-kun
>That is what rifles and shotguns are for
Why do handguns exist at all then? Rifles and shotguns are "better"
they exist to be less annoying to carry around, and the size of handgun you carry is directly proportional to how easily annoyed you are
in a just world i would holster carry an mp7 but every government everywhere is evil
You should most likely have a nice day
suck my dick Black person, post a gun you carry
Paul Harrell btfo you people
>you do know a compressed spring is under no wear, right?
They are, but it realistically takes 15+ years of being loaded before modern magazine springs start to fail at feeding. Unless it's some tiny 1911 spring or something, maybe. Shotgun tube springs wear much quicker under sustained loads of being fully depressed. Shotguns and rifles exists as well for big animals but I'm not camping with either when my gp100 fits in a holster.
Revolvers are still the best for home defense
>load
>throw in drawer near bed
>sleep soundly
doesnt put any wear on springs
no worries about malfunctions
Revolvers are still relevent for civilian use
>wear on springs
Opinion discarded
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>Revolvers are still the best for home defense
They certainly work, and most likely it's gonna cut it, but 6 or 7 shots of .38 Special, while usable, isn't really better than 17 shots of 9mm Luger, not to talk about a shotgun with No. 4 buckshot.
There's Magnum revolvers of course, but they are VERY loud, and if you're going to go for a powerful gun which is really loud, I want to suggest some sort of rifle and carbine instead.
>doesnt put any wear on springs
Springs wear from active compression and decompression, they don't wear when static, ergo when relaxed or when under pressure, that's thermodynamics. HOWEVER, there are some things to note, that with certain magazines, keeping those loaded has the potential of causing say, the feed lips to subtly and slowly deform from spring pressure over a long period of time, typically plastic ones of lower quality, but I've heard one or two anecdotes of Hi-Point magazines doing that.
>no worries about malfunctions
Kept in the hospitable conditions of a bedside drawer, I should expect any half decent handgun to manage that just fine, especially if you do clean it after taking it out for practice.
This isn't directly relevant to the bedside drawer example, but if you drop the average double-action hand-ejector revolver in muddy and sandy water, that's extremely likely to make the lockwork seize up, while something like a Glock 17 is very likely to manage that with few, if any malfunctions at all. The main advantage a revolver has for reliability is that it doesn't use the power of a cartridge to cycle, so it can be operated like normal with any underloaded ammo or even duds, but this is less big of a point where even pretty cheap ammo very rarely have those problems.
This isn't 1896, it's very easy to find consistently decent ammo for a decent price.
>Kept in the hospitable conditions of a bedside drawer, I should expect any half decent handgun to manage that just fine
Except autos have more ways to jam including holding it wrong...
Maybe in the fricking 60's that isn't a problem anymore for even decently maintained semi autos
>it can't happen to me
You must not watch many videos of shootings.
Are you going to drop your sperg list of YouTube videos showing malfunctions for both now? Or did you grow up a bit since two days ago?
Get a metal framed action then.
Polymer frames flex and are more liable to limp wristing. On the other hand steel or aluminum frames tend to be far harder to make malfunction like that.
That's why you use 357 motherfricker
Just no, honestly what a stupid recommendation
If all you shoot is 357 out of a revolver at the range and it is the only gun you own or are good with then fine, but you are better off using a semi auto or a shotgun for home defense
>but you are better off using a semi auto or a shotgun for home defense
Statistically, having a gun on your person or immediately within reach is more likely to make a difference in a home defense scenario than having a long gun. There's no reason not to opt for whatever handgun you normally practice with.
And that matters when hiding guns all over your house, but in that case you can hide longuns or handguns around in similar spots, and next to your bed there is no reason to not keep a shotgun/rifle instead of a handgun or in addition to
So yeah, having a gun is nice, but in your home there is no reason you can't keep a shotgun near where you might also keep a handgun
Or I can just set my carry gun in its holster down where ever I am at the time and always have the most effective option, because it's what I've practiced with the most. Cases where gun performance really matters over shooter skill basically don't exist.
Either you live a place where people are kicking in doors 24/7 or you imagine your life to be much more actiony than it is
Just get bars on your doors or windows if you are that paranoid to carry your fricking gun in your holster around your fricking house man, christ.
You're the one advocating for taking the time to set up places where you can hide long guns around your house, and insisting that you could totally find yourself in some over the top situation where gun performance matters over user skill. Picking up my carry gun and setting it somewhere else requires little effort, and it stays in the holster even when I'm not wearing it for safety reasons.
No, moron, I am saying you are better off keeping the outside of your home secure rather than carry your fricking piece all over the house with you like some fuddy homosexual, and if you do carry it around like some edgy dipshit you might as well just stash a few guns around the house instead so you don't look like a wanna be action hero moron
Oh no, I bring my carry gun into the bathroom when I shower. I'm too edgy and may as well play Crawling or Bodies on repeat as my theme song. Surely that's worse than thinking I need to constantly study spec sheets to min-max my EDC loadout like other posters here do.
You carry a gun all the time inside your house?
Beef with the cartel or someting?
There are several posible reasons to not keep a fricking rifle next to your bed. And we are not all americans.
I doubt any of them are very good unless you have a moronic child or wife
And if you aren't American you don't really have to worry about blacks, unless you live somewhere with browns then you are in deep shit
I had domestic terrorism, now brownpipo... but unlikely to see them storming my house.
There are more reasons than relatives. First is that outside america (and maybe also there) you will look to anyone that happens to see it as a fricking weirdo (no good), in the case of rifles it would be illegal here were i am also. If you life, as many people in many countries including Murrica do, in a flat/appartment/condo it may be a too big and deppending on amo/caliber, too powerful (noise, penetration)... there are millions of posible reasons, really.
I dont think that having a regular pistol in your nighstand is being undergunned by any means. Id rather have a carbine or shotgun? Sometimes yes, and sometimes no.
post guns you homosexual ass no gun
Because they are cool.
Lets me feel like a cowboy or a detective
Owing to your picture of big hunting revolvers there, it's because it's a LOT cheaper to make a high powered repeating handgun such as a revolver, especially on existing tooling and going on existing designs, than it is to develop and produce a proper automatic pistol.
The Desert Eagle is designed around mostly rimmed revolver cartridges, but it's a picky b***h when it comes to what kind of ammo it likes, and it only tolerates perfect shooting stance. The Coonan and Grizzly are probably the most practical Magnum autos ever, but they're expensive, and the latter hasn't been in production for many years, tragically, we're also up into Coonan's second revival.
The Wildey has certain adaptability, but is also expensive, and is built around rimless Magnum handgun cartridges which aren't widely available. The AMC Auto Mag has had promise, but it has been handled awfully for most of its history, and there's a lot of problems, maybe the revamped ones have this solved and it'll have a better shot, we'll see, but just the same it calls for less common rimless ammunition. The AMT Automag (which is different) is vaguely like the Grizzly if it was moronic.
Beyond that, revolvers have this appeal to reliability, with how they don't depend on the power of your cartridge to cycle (outside of rare exceptions), and that they're very simple to handle. We can argue just how truthful or relevant this reliability part really is, particularly with how even cheap ammo these days is lightyears ahead of cheap ammo from over a century ago, or how revolver lockworks have all these big openings for hypothetical dirt to get in.
Most people don't live in a WW1 trench though, and they don't shoot mysterious unlabeled ammo they found under the fridge when they moved in, so typically their revolvers don't struggle to function. The modest (centerfire) snubbie revolver has a record of being adequate for defense 999 times out of 1000, so it's not going away any time soon.
As a SW 500 magnum owner I do concur with reliability with revolvers
I'm saving for a redhawk in .44, and the only reason I'm not getting a .500 smith is because of ammo cost.
Ammo isn’t that bad mate, depending if you want somewhat tame 300+ grain or overkill 500-700 grain
I paid $1500 and he threw in a couple boxes of ammo.
I’m a fan of the 500. And here is a comparison to my raging hunter .357 magnum
It is rather heavy but it’s fun to say you own the worlds biggest production magnum
Each box of 20 my LGS threw in was 60$
I do want to know the best 700+ grain ammo is to add to my collection now too
Woops forgot pic. These are 350 grain boxes
>box of 20 my LGS threw in was 60$
$3/rd is pretty fricking harsh, I can get decent 44 mag online for $.70-$1/rd. .500 starts at around $2.25/rd and very quickly goes up from there.
Meanwhile decent .357, which I already own, can go as low as $.50/rd for target ammo.
How's the Raging Hunter? Been interested in a .44 or .454, but I was bummed they stopped making the Raging Bulls.
>How's the Raging Hunter?
Yeah, how do you like it?
It's a taurus? Nice that they put the ports on the barrel but it's just a clunky cannon not much to say about it
How much does it cost?
Revolvers are awesome.
I hope to own one someday.
Justified or not, revolvers are moving quickly right now and gun mfgs are responding to demand. I bought a revolver because I am a reloader and I hate picking up brass, but there is something about the mechanical function of a revolver that is timeless. I liked it more than I thought I would.
actually the mechanical function of a revolver requires a lot of timing
I can't be mad at you even though I want to.
Yeah, if your revolver is timeless, you need to find a gunsmith or send it in for warranty.
I don't care how big of a badass a dude is. If he whips out a memevolver like those at a range, I'm gonna to laugh at him.
Iunno, why do they keep making crossbows when they've been obsolete for centuries?
Archery is still a multimillion dollar industry, and tournament archers can get +$10K per tournament for multiple events year round (not including sponsor pay). Yes, you can be a full time archer.
Yeah and there probably competitions for revolvers too. My point was that people enjoy using obsolete projectile weapons.
Yep, my dad still loves revolvers, and there are probably tournaments for them, too.
For felons too stupid/scared to get an illegal gun
Me irl
The day a semi-auto pistol can put out the same ballistics as .454 Casull without being larger than a 6.5" Raging Bull, I will throw my favorite gun in the fricking garbage. 180gr at 2200 FPS is only obtainable by a rifle or large frame revolver, and I can't conceal the former.
Pic related is my dream gun; too beautiful for this world.
Duality of man
You can touch on .454 Casull with .429 Desert Eagle
Of course, that means contending with the Desert Eagle.
Weight is less of a factor, it's more that it's a multi shot handgun in a Magnum cartridge which works and isn't expensive to buy or feed.
You can make the lockup stronger and improve on the 1800s metallurgy. You aren't gonna blast Buffalo Bore in a gun like this or anything, but it'll certainly stand up to regular target loads just fine, even if maybe not quite the same lifespan or margin of error as hand ejectors or gate loaders.
>You can touch on .454 Casull with .429 Desert Eagle
Yeah but why would you want to? It’s more rare than .50AE and unavailable in stores.
>Of course, that means contending with the Desert Eagle.
What? Does this mean that you’ve got to prepare yourself for the fun you’re going to have with it?
The Desert Eagle is fun, but it's a fidgety b***h which demands perfect form and stance, and is very picky about ammo.
Why lie? None of that is true at all.
By all means, go shoot light target loads with imperfect recoil control, or a grip where your supporting hand so much as nudges against the magazine floorplate and tell me how it behaves. Magnum Research themselves are very upfront about this, and being gas operated it can't shoot anything unjacketed.
The Desert Eagle isn't a bad pistol, for one it's supremely fricking accurate, for another it's a lot of fun, but it has quirks to mind.
Bro you’re talking out of your ass and it makes you look bad, just stop. It’s clear you don’t own one and have never shot one.
Keep on fudding, DE's are fun guns for the range but that is the only place they belong they are too finnicky for any other practical useage
I’ve never had any barrel be “finnicky” except the .44 mag one, all the rest have been perfectly reliable even in adverse conditions like sand.
Are you hunting arabs and technicals out there buddo? Shut up and just keep playing with your gun for fun in the sand in the dirt etc but no one is going to use it as a self defense weapon against Black folk or against wildlife because it would be a stupid, stupid thing to do.
>they are perfectly reliable
>except for the one I have that’s finicky
So which is it?
They’re all reliable except the .44mag barrel, that’s 5 barrels with perfect functionality and one that’s a bit spotty, pretty good for a gun that everyone says is unreliable.
Lmao salty no guns, you should at least try shooting some magnums some time so you can get some experience under your belt.
Post pics of you gripping your deeg so we can laugh at how limp your wrist is and tiny your hands are
Look how the noguns lash out when cornered lmao
>didnt post pictures of hands
Handlet confirmed and i guarantee you that hes a shit-skin of some sort
Lmao stop projecting your own insecurities, you’ll never be white.
Every YouTube video I’ve seen says they are not reliable. Garand Thumb had so many misfeeds it was bonkers.
That said, I want one, so convinced me I’m wrong. Or maybe post some videos - this is 1527
Youtube is gay and so is Garandthumb, try basing your opinions on real world experience and not Youtube videos made for memes.
I’ve gone over this plenty of times in /hg/ but as long as the gun is made correctly, it’s simply a matter of lubrication and cleaning between shoots that’ll keep it reliable, much like anything.
Lubricate the slide rails, bolt body, and trigger bar and you’ll get many hundreds of rounds through in a shooting trip before you see a malfunctions. And as I said before in this thread the best for reliability is .357 mag and .50AE, my .44 mag barrel as well as another anon’s don’t really work like the other barrels do and are much more temperamental to dirt and cleaning, while another Desert Eagle anon has no issue and can shoot a couple hundred rounds with no problems. Kinda a crapshoot but it seems to be the .44mag that’s most effected.
>20% of them are unreliable
>this means it’s highly reliable
That kind of performance isn’t acceptable in other kinds of guns. In large caliber semi auto handguns it’s kind of expected.
They need to be held firmly, have ammo it likes, and be “tuned” for the load. Basically everyone who has shot or owned one says this.
>my lone anecdote contradicts years and years of multiple other people's anecdotes
.429DE is like an extremely mild .454. It doesn't get the velocity it needs to be in rifle territory. If it was .40 cal, it would have been PERFECT if it could get 135gr up to 2300 fps which is pretty much a fricking AK, but 180gr at 2k fps is just a little too slow.
I think the only problem with this gun would be that it's front-heavy as shit, or just heavy in general. I think a SPACE MAUSER that shoots fricking .454 is entirely within the realm of possibility
of course in the lore of Cyberpunk nobody gives a shit about a 12lb pistol when they have cyberarms and synthetic muscles
I'm not seeing it being nearly as heavy or unbalanced as an X-frame. It's similar to a bufferless AR-10 with a 6" barrel, so about 7-8 pounds at the heaviest.
Heavier and easier to shoot if you're hunting. Some ppl just like them. Not every gun use is combat against other humans you utter min/max homosexual op.
The two true answers
^The true consolidated answer
Because most guns are toys for men like shoes are to women.
I'm pretty happy that 8-shot .357 magnums have been invented. Not dumping my six shooter, but I've been tucking a little away every month for an eight.
If and when I ever pull out a revolver in need, I know I don't have to worry about collecting my brass from a ten meter radius before I can move on. Shoot & scoot is a huge tactical advantage I'm not giving up easily.
And, yeah, I also have 17+1 in 9mm with a backup 17 mag and a pair of 14s loaded with "other options." If I use all the rounds in my wheelgun and I need more, I'm dropping that beauty as fast as I can pull out the 9mm, and frick how much brass I'm leaving scattered all around at that point.
If someone made me pick up one of those abominations in your picrel, though, I'd have to put the first shot through their brainstem and the second shot through mine. Fricking Black person-tier.
>Shoot & scoot is a huge tactical advantage I'm not giving up easily.
What kind of world do you live in you fricking tryhard homosexual
>can shoot a concealed revolver from a pocket or pressed against a body
Same as this stupid Black person, you aren't mobsters or are you actual fricking dark skinned freaks
>ive never pocket carried
I know. And you never know how its going to go down. Don't be dumb you dumb homosexual.
>Don't be dumb you dumb homosexual.
I wish someone would have told me when I was younger. My dad use to just say “wow that’s awesome buddy,” when I’d run up to him with my crayon drawings of dinosaurs. It took me awhile to adjust to life in the business world.
Thank you for telling us all about the clown world (You) live in. Now please shut up and frick off.
The kind where if he defends himself against a black people are going to try really hard to get him. They're called dindus for a reason.
>If and when I ever pull out a revolver in need, I know I don't have to worry about collecting my brass from a ten meter radius before I can move on. Shoot & scoot is a huge tactical advantage I'm not giving up easily.
This is said exclusive by people who don’t own guns or who will never fire one at a person. Possibly both
Silence ATF. You are not allowed in my mountains.
>lives up in the mountains
>worried about policing brass for all the other people that are around
You keep getting gayer
And Black folk who stole some ladys purse with a small 5 cylinder pink SW
all I want is a modern break top in .38 special and .327 magnum, but they keep pumping out this cyber punk shit
I would love a break top 38 special
Break tops are so fricking weak and shitty, I would not trust my life to one full stop
>full stop
You can’t even one the one produced in your own country. BTW it’s an 7 shot .357. Why are you even here?
What is that? I want it.
It says in the picture. Anderson Wheeler MkVII. Its basically a best quality repro of the Webley Mk.VII, but as a 7-shot .357 instead of a 6-shot .455.
>Anderson Wheeler MkVII
This is a show gun, no way it would stand up to repeated use without falling the frick apart
>he doesn't have a dual caliber 44/22 top break
>can shoot a concealed revolver from a pocket or pressed against a body
>can one shot a grizz with a .454 when you only have time for one shot
>look good
>fun
What more do you need?
i like da/sa i think theyre neat
Mmmmm...potmetal
its pitted from being underwater
That looks like the kind of gun you'd shoot a building inspector with.
I have a S&W Model 19 Classic and I just like it. It's comfy and a great bedside gun.
forgot pic
S&Ws are so sexy looking but cant handle too many +p loads without cracking the frame. Its a shame they underbuilt them like they did.
This is false. The old ones had issues with the forcing cone (which is easily and cheaply replaced), but the new ones do not. Smith & Wesson does caution against using bullet weights under 120 grains in titanium cylinders due to flame cutting.
>omg thats false
>well it was the forcing cone bullet weight and charge doesnt matter
>well, smith and wesson says dont use such and such bullet
>thats false though
Wow
Lmfao
Im aware of the forcing cone issue, but i was specifically talking about the frames, especially on any smith made before the early or mid 90s or so. The newer ones are supposedly fine, but nothing like a Ruger frame strength wise. Its pretty commom knowledge for anyone born before 2004 zoomer
>have to choose between an ugly cast piece of shit with a terrible trigger or a gun that breaks if you try to shoot certain bullet weights or brands of ammo out of it too many times
Revolverbros...it wasn't supposed to be like this...
Its a technology that has been around since the fricking 1860s at least. It amazes me anyone carries a revolver for anything whatsoever when a semiautomatic will do everything a revolver will do but better. A revolver cant do anything a semi can do.
Yet these morons still insist on trying to force their delusions into reality. literally no military in the entire world uses any form of revolver anymore...why not?? And you cant even shoot +p or light loads out of a S&W??? Wtf revolver goobers??
because big iron always beats small plastic
Revolvers are great. My current carry most days is just a Taurus 856 in a pocket. Very simple, has been reliable, and I wouldn't cry too much if I never saw it again after shooting a crackhead with it. Super easy concealment as well. Loaded with 150 grain wadcutters. My current woods sidearm is a Smith and wesson model 69 .44 magnum. Will handle anything I could run into in the woods, 2 or 4 legged. 5 rounds of 240 grain 1500 fps hollow point thunder sure makes you just feel safe. If I'm cautious about a potential predator in the woods, I'll bring a long gun. Revolvers are excellent as simple use firearms and for packing a lot of umph into an easy to carry package. I have a speed strip with 6 more rounds just in case in my opposite pocket but statistically, if I am in danger of needing more than 3ish shots to end an encounter i probably would have packed my AR anyways.
I wonder the same thing. It could be a few reasons.
>”they’re cool” being enough to sustain an entire category of guns.
>boomers
>the rare case where revolvers are actually useful, like their ability to chamber frickhuge bear calibers that semi autos can’t accommodate.
These are such small niches and target markets though, it’s a wonder there are entire companies that stay alive doing almost nothing other than making revolvers.
Taurus stays afloat purely because of their wheelguns though they do make semi autos
I'd kill for one of those revolvers but with a rifle stock instead. Essentially a longer barrel, larger cylinder that holds maybe 10 rounds, and a rifle stock instead of a pistol grip. Would be so much fun.
Is this supposed to be like, ironic or something? They make lever actions in 500 magnum
>They make lever actions in 500 magnum
The revolver in the OP is semi-auto. Apply that thought to the post you quoted.
>OP
Huh? There is a semi auto revolver in OP's post? I is it behind the shitty fricking taurus revolvers or what?
Are you fricking stupid or just a god damn moron
DA revolvers are semi-auto, practically speaking; certainly different than a fricking lever action. Stop being a pedantic homosexual.
This is one of the most noguns fricking opinions I have ever seen popped up on this fricking joint and it isn't even summer yet, has to be bait, no way someone would say something so fricking black and stupid
>DA revolvers are semi-auto, practically speaking
lol
lmao even
>pull trigger, gun goes boom
>pull trigger again, gun goes boom again
Do you not understand "practically speaking"?
>Why do new revolvers keep coming out?
People keep buying them.Simple as.
better question is why do they make shitty revolvers?
should be cheap as frick to make something of high quality by now
>many better options
Not when you wanna be a cowboy yeehaw
Revolvers peaked in 1882
>I have never handled either piece but I watch youtube and the guntuber told me that these two revolvers are the same
I enjoy C&Rsenal too but zoomers need to learn that regurgitating the contrarion opinions of guntubers is the equivalent of modern fuddlore.
>when we have so many better options and new technology that make them objectively worse?
Because in reality it doesn't actually matter outside of competitions where people are closely matched skill wise. USPSA classifiers are crazier than any real world situation you might be in, yet shooting a production gun in open won't even reliably drop you more than one class. Shooting a revolver in open will only drop you further due to reload times, while in reality there isn't a single self defense situation anyone can cite where a reload was need, and there isn't a single police shooting anyone can cite where reload speed made a difference from after police departments started issuing speedloaders rather than having officers reload their service revolvers with loose ammunition.
Because people like them. Did you get so caught up in all your boogaloo shit that you forgot that gun-owning is a hobby?
I’m not sure, why are you a homosexual?
>operating motor vehicle
>run into roadblock
>reach for main handgun
>dispatch 7 tangos with .357 mag before stopping the vehicle
>suppress any remaining hostiles with 10 sjot .22 lr quaternary backup
>perform a tacical reload with speedloading clip
>reach for secondary handgun
>clear and secure the perimeter with 7-7 rounds of pissin hot .357 mag in both hands
>should more tangos be present, 5+5 rounds of .44 mag is still available
Why did you choose to be a homophile by making this thread?
>
>using homophile instead of homosexual
machinepistols but no machinerevolvers
>Lighter than a rifle and easier to get barrel facing a bear quickly.
>no magazine expenses.
>simple designs, especially single action
>most gun encounters with men and beasts are over in 3 shots.
>sexy sexy
>different style of firing than semi auto. Completely different if you are shooting 44 Mag or greater power.
>very sexy
>historical
>makes a point of style, a more gentlemanly weapon. Good for honor killings.
>no association with spree killers, even though there have been cases.
>perceptions of the public generally indicate that an olde wood grip six shooter in a leather holster is more likely to be owned by a firearm expert than a Glock tucked into a waistband. (Note I said “more likely” and it’s true)
>another way to say this is, if I asked you who was more likely to score a hit in the 10 ring, and all you knew was the model of the gun, you probably pick the Ruger GP100 .357 owner over the Glock 19 9mm owner.
>other reasons too, but I’m done.
French anti-terror units still use revolvers effectively even in recent history.
They're cool.
reposting from another thread:
personally I really, really like revolvers, the process of owning and using a handgun in my country is needlessly complicated to the point of ridiculousness and revolvers are usually more expensive than an AR15 or a nice mid tier bolt action, but one day I will own one 🙂
I shoot some .44 and .357 at the range regularly though and they are both amazing. usually I train with 9mm more because it's cheaper and easier to get into competitive shooting, but IMO revolvers are definitely more enjoyable
Best for target shooting, cowboy larp, good home defence gun but that’s more of a personal choice thing, hunting, wildlife defence, etc etc etc
Unless you have a modded to fricking shit frick 1911 a good Smith is the best target handgun you can get.
except for all the actual target guns made by pardini walther morini and others
revolvers are dead sexy, and i’ve owned in the past, but I can’t get over how ugly they look with red dots, and I can’t get over how much I love red dots
Revolvers are the perfected, finely tuned wife gun. I have no idea why this meta isn't widely accepted and spread as gospel
>Wife is giant Amazon woman
>Give her massive frickoff SW500 and a leather holster for her sundress.
unironically the dream
I can't shoot .500 magnum out of an autoloader
WHERES MY MODERN NON RUSSIAN BREAK ACTION IN A REAL CRATRIDGE?!
Revolvers have advantages on the large end of handguns and the small end. Large hunting revolvers can handle large loads for game during handgun season and offer easy optic mounting solutions. Small revolvers can compete with the size, weight, and capacity of small semis, and don't suffer from the downsides of high spring weights, small slides, and limp wristing/grip issues. They also draw better as tiny guns and have more curved surfaces. And if you go down to .22lr/mag you won't have to worry about primers and case rims as much.
For the K to L frame revolvers it starts to not make sense, you can carry a mid size 9mm and have way more capacity for the weight and size. 6 shots of .357 in a +33oz gun vs 16 shots of 9mm in a 30oz(or less) gun of a similar footprint... the revolver only has niche benefits at that point.
So we don’t leave casings behind in the scene
is this how and what about you talk normally?
t. war tourist
Sometimes we talk about buggering the range trap. Ranges are infested with traps, you should buy a gun.
Also, if you're against current Taurus revolvers, you are the most simpleton noguns internet cattle, and your ass should be grilled and served hot for we actual shooters to eat it
Sorry, what? I don't speak POOR
I'm nervous about any Taurus revolvers over .357 just because of the energy involved in case of a castrophic failure. Plus, if I'm investing in a big bore or something, I would prefer a higher quality firearm in any case. I just like the security of mind since my .44 is loaded with some fairly stout loadings. Plus fit and finish tends to be a bit lacking and where most of the cost savings end up at for taurus. The 605 and 856 models are the breasts for how cheap they are, though I do agree. I regularly pack a .38 856 as a pocket carry with 150 grain wadcutters. The finish isn't the best but for a cheap nig-b-gone and mugger blaster you can't really go wrong. I've never had function issues from it, and even with a 2 inch barrel at distances of 10 to 20 yards it's more than accurate enough. At 5-10 yards I can reliably group 6 rounds in about a 3 inch spread in about 3 seconds
>I'm nervous about any Taurus revolvers over .357 just because of the energy involved in case of a castrophic failure
And that's the problem. The Taurus magnums like the Raging series are exceptional quality.
you are being paranoid, Taurus has come an extremely long way in even just 10 years as theyve trimmed all their bad products out (ie., the Curve). Except the judge, which isnt poorly made but just a poor concept.
Honestly I would rather trust a taurus made of steel than a scandium/titanium s&w.
revolvers are mechanically quite forgiving of poor form, neglect, and poor jam clearing knowledge. Literally anyone can take the two steps of, in order: Put bullets in revolver, Shoot at thing. The triggers may not be the kindest for newbies, but at close range it likely wont matter. Revolvers dont care about cycling, they dont care about your form, you physically cannot lose the magazine by mistake, they just go bang. They are extremely tolerant of living in a nightstand drawer and never, ever being cleaned, and thats basically what most do. Bad primer hit? dud? Pull again.
I like. But not sure why any less than 6 rounds exist or for that matter why aby oder 8 rounds exist at this point
Behold, person E
I don't get all the simping for top break revolvers. I don't care either way about them, I just don't get it.
Think hipsters except for firearms, they are cumbersome and annoying but were in a western or an anime so fudds love them for aesthetic reasons
Not that anon but go be stupid somewhere else
>w-well, you're just... d-dumb
What is with anime posters being so severely out of touch with reality
Post your revolver, homosexual.
Post your bad dragon dildo
>you're out of touch with reality if you like having fun and enjoying life, rather than LARPing so hard that you start believing you're actually a hero out of an action movie or an FPS
Because it's cool, and that's enough of a reason.
>nooooooooo you can't just think something is cool, you need to min-max every aspect of your life for fantasy scenarios that you'll never be in
>anime poster top break apologist
it was in an anime, wasn't it
Revolvers have hidden perk +100% crit damage. But shhh don't tell anyone.
Only stealth weapons have crit modifiers and you can't suppress a revolver so they have no crit bonuses just a higher base damage
Revolvers are fine but don't let any of the weebs here convince you they're "more reliable" somehow when it 100% comes down the individual guns in question. Revolvers can have way more subtle mechanical problems like timing issues, walking screws (I had a model 29 cylinder fall out of my gun onto concrete when I went to reload once because the screw walked out. Thanks S&W very cool) along with being much more susceptible to things like dirt or grit.
>muh timing
Slowly becomes a problem, and can be caught before it becomes an actual issue if you're paying attention.
>muh screws
Apply Locktite. Besides that, how did the screw even walk out that far without you noticing it?
How do you fix a timing issue?
By replacing the parts that are so worn that they're causing the revolver to go out of time. Same way you fix any other problem on a gun.
homie probably thinks its watch levels of complicated because of the word timing
>Apply Locktite. Besides that, how did the screw even walk out that far without you noticing it?
That's what I did. I shot it 6 times in a row without stopping to check that nothing had loosened up. It's still a design flaw.
How would you even catch it?
I remember in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly you see ugly testing the timing of some revolver before he buys it, listening to the clicks and shit, but most modern revolvers are just smooth spinning cylinders.
Slowly pull the hammer back, once it is all the way back jingle the cylinder with your fingers a little, if it was unable to lock in perfectly on every single cylinder even just a little, the timing is fricked
Solid
Thanks anon
This isn't true, first of all that's not timing it's called lockup, and second most revolvers are designed with a little wiggle to improve the service life of the firearm. A few thousandths front to back and side to side is normal
The cylinder wiggling is fine when it is locked up, but if it doesn't lock in place perfectly after each slow pull then you are fricked if wiggling it slightly locks it in place or unlocks it then it's Black person, that is the best way short of going out and shooting it first to check the timing as well as doing a couple dry fires but that won't tell you a whole lot
There's that checklist for when buying a used revolver that you can go through. Also if you start noticing the dents from the firing pin drifting to one side.
Revolvers exist in several neich markets.
A. The cheapest gun at the lowest end of capacity.
They feed .22 reliably, cost very little to produce, you might take one as a tool for shooting varmints or if you're a 12 year old looking to execute a 15 year old.
B. Alternating between exotic cartridges.
Some won't feed or cycle, this naturally feeds into A. Because you might concievable have two rounds of .38, two rounds of snake shot, a blank and a slug. If you were actually a rancher.
C. Hunting revolvers
You're shooting large animals, you need a large calibre, you can't carry two large guns. You won't get the opportunity to reload anyway, you're in a situation where you genuinely couldn't survive a jam, the action is easier to clean.
D. Disposable murder weapons
You would rather a semi auto, but are throwing away a gun per week and can't justify the expense. The contract killing market is pretty thin so your margins can't take too many hits.
E. You can't get your head around a semi auto, somthing /k/ sort of takes for granted. You would remove the mag but forget the chambered round, you can't rack the slide with your lard hands, you pull the mag outv by accident, you can't count rounds unless you're looking at them, when you clean your gun (when it stops working) the springs fly out and you can't get them back in.
Sur you bedder get a reevolver gun
F. D. But the government pays you. Komrade the makarov is good gun, mate the webley works fine.
dank grip shape
Guns and especially ammunition are very easy to sell.
> objectively aesthetically superior to every other firearm
> versatility via multiple supported calibers in certain chamberings (460/454/45LC, 44M/44S, 357/38, etc.)
> reliability in terms of dealing with malfunctions (if they occur)
> compact
> very few moving parts and simple firing mechanism make them easy to shoot for everyone from beginners to professionals
...
The list goes on
They make me feel like a cowboy! Yeehaw!
Because every cheap Black person on earth purchased a Heritage Arms $105 22lr/magnum revolver making it the fastest selling gun in a gun store. Manufacturers are trying to cash in with other options. It's pretty easy to see why.
Don't hate on the future
Doesn't work.
I live where there are bear, moose, wolf and coyote all over that like to frick with my crops and critters and it is hard ad frick to operate a tractor or do other chores with a fricking long gun. My 44 with 300 grain hot loads sits in an Alaskan holster just fine all day with no fuss. I just wish there was a good way to mount a real weapon light to a revolver. Yes long guns are better if you have a choice but people are not always hunting larp patrolling their property and need to get chores done.
Yeah this is why 10mm exists because it has all the necessary power to bring down big game while not being in a moronic 6 shooter that can't use real attachments unless it's a very specific gun
He shot that thing with a rifle or a shotgun and then posed with his shitty glocknade to rile people up
10mm is TRASH
Malding.
Because they are cool and they just work