Why did they kill it ?

And when is someone gonna make a reproduction of it I know a lot of American and Canadian cops carried them in the 90’s

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Polymer and striker fired became the name of the game. They made the M&P so it didn't make sense to keep it around when they both occupy the same niche in the S&W catalog.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, the steel-frame wonder 9's are extremely sexy, but a lot of them just never caught on and stuck around before poly guns did them in.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DA/SA was falling out of favor as can't shoots were getting into firearms. Luckily the millennials and zoomers realized that DA/SA isn't any harder to shoot with the tiniest bit of practice.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DA/SA never fell out of favor with millennials lol. Our generation's most iconic firearm is the Beretta 92fs, still one of the best selling handguns today. My first gun was a DA/SA handgun. My last gun I got was a DA/SA handgun. Born in 1992. If Smith and Wesson revived their DA/SA metal frames I'd gobble that shit up.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. There will be neoBoomers in 2060 shilling Beretta 92s

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >DA/SA never fell out of favor with millennials lol
        I don't know a millennial with anything but a Glock or Canik. Gen Xers seem to like them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you only know like five people.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What bites my ass is, anyone I DO know who has glawks, they are all hyper gucci then all these gays banner beat perfection. Fricking stupid. These gays love saying its perfect and simple, but put more money into the gun than its worth, a glocks name to fame was that it was cheap and reliable, sub 450 bucks. In a over simplification, Hipoints today are the glocks of the 80's. Its all so tiresome, I love my DA/SA.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No. Our most iconic handgun is the gen 3 Glock. No one but Larpers and collectors bought/buys Berettas

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    obsolete compared to its metal contemporaries (CZ-75, Beretta 92, P226), and a joke compared to the glock

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Too expensive
      Once Glocks became widely accepted the handgun market turned into a race to the bottom. The primary utility of handguns is as a show of force, anyone expecting to actually shoot their handgun at another person is in a tiny delusional minority. A plastic piece of shit that cost $200 to make does as good a job of signaling "I will shoot you if you frick around" as a finely manufactured all metal pistol that costs 5x as much to make. The vast majority of people that carry a handgun don't really give a shit about the finer aspects that enthusiasts appreciate.

      Bait or noguns, call it.

      they werent consistently good pistols. sw was capable of putting out good guns the performance center ones were great. a significant percent of the normal ones they were letting out into the wild were functioning trash. not bad enough to break or warranty but not good enough to recommend. even if you liked the guns youd hesitate on buying a second cause you didnt know if it would be as good as the first.
      they lost marketshare for good reason. then there was the whole naming clusterfrick.

      1st gens were usually nicely made but lacking in durability. 2nd gens were definitely hit or miss but once Tomkins took over there was a huge improvement in quality and there were lots of tweaks to make for insane durability. The 3rd gens were pretty much perfected, relatively speaking, by the '90s when DA/SAs were in their prime. They were very popular guns for good reason. My 5906 is one of very few pistols that will shoot mag after mag of Winchester forged without issue when a Glock will have hiccups with it.

      Smith and Wesson have repeatedly given the tired corps-rat excuse of "iTz nOT eCoNoMicAL" to produce a alloy or steel framed DA/SA hammer fired pistol.
      Alright then, why are there are companies in Turkey, Brazil, Italy, Spain and Serbia that make copies of the Beretta 92, the CZ-75 and 97, and Sig P22x series (all famous DA/SA pistols). In many cases these copies are VERY good to excellent. Somehow, to all of THESE companies it's miraculously "economical". And don't say "muh LaYbiR costZ". Wrong. With modern production labor costs only figure only a few percent into the costs. See, it's not that it's uneconomical. It's that the corporate companies are mismanaged to hell and can't manage design and manufacturing projects well enough to pivot with new products and maintain competitiveness. It's a complete MANAGEMENT problem not a technology or manufacturing problem at all. So it looks like if you want a NEW American pistol, you're mostly stuck with toy material and striker fired.
      I hope to hell that Taurus or maybe even some Turkish no name company starts producing copies of the S&W 4506, 1006 and 6906 and stuff. I mean come on, Taurus practically copys everything S&W makes in terms of revolvers (they are actually S&W's bastard child).

      >3rd world tier labor and hand-me-down tooling can make cheap guns so why can't a small American company do it too
      Forging dies are expensive as hell
      S&W only has so many forges
      It'd cost probably upper 1k - mid 2k to make them so it's probably feasible.
      Lightening the trigger and giving them PC tunes, improved back straps, integral rails like some of the later TSW models, and optional threaded barrels would make them a real contender in the growing high-end pistol market. S&W autos will hang with well-tuned 1911s in terms of trigger if they're done up right, as anyone who's handled a SAO PC Smith Auto can attest to.
      The heart of the issue is that S&W is run by a bunch of brain dead morons that are under the thumb of ~~*stockholders*~~ who demand high volume low quality so they'll never be good until Hitler 2 comes along.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anything that's not my favorite fanboi pozzed DEI corpse-rat company with tons of dead weight is just a bunch of moronic cave men using stone knives and bear skins WAHHH
        KYS israelite

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Luv me DA/SA Smiths
          Luv me DA/SA plastic brettas
          Luv me DA/SA plastic HaytchKs
          Don't hate Glocks, just don't like em
          Simple as

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yar m8

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >uhhh my shitty kraut and wop plastic pistols are better cause they just are ok!!
            terminal contrarianism. not that it even matters since those are clearly just dust collecting toys for you lel

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Lightening the trigger and giving them PC tunes, improved back straps, integral rails like some of the later TSW models, and optional threaded barrels would make them a real contender in the growing high-end pistol market.
        S&W went and made the CSX so I kind of hold out hope that they end up making a full-size one as sort of a '4th Gen' auto.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd wager lack of demand for new production, because there's still A LOT of the originals out there. Before Glock came along these (well, there were a lot of variants) were one of the "wonder 9s"

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Smith and Wesson shit themselves hard when Glock took the market by force like a mudvalanche sweeping over a Mexican village, so they overreacted and got rid of their metal-framed DA-SA handguns to experiment with shitty striker guns for years before coming up with the M&P series, which had bad triggers on their first gen release.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The tooling was worn out and replacing it would have been expensive. Blocks were taking over and they didn't expect to sell enough of these for it to be worthwhile. It also needed an update. So instead of aggressively fighting, they just canned it and Smith became that fudd revolver company for awhile.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cost
    you could see the attempts to shave off cost as the years of production went by. See that silver trigger and silver hammer? Later versions had black triggers and hammers because they were MIM. S&W kept trimming costs until they came out with the 910/915, a budget version of the 5906. It had less machining on the slide and frame, a plastic guid rod, just a safey lever on the left side and some other cost saving measures. By the time they released that Glock was eating everyone's lunch with their pricing for law enforcement contracts, departments were ditching their 3rd Gens Smiths. Then S&W had to pay up after Glock sued them for not copying the Glock trigger design.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because morons jumped on the el cheapo plastic gun bandwagon.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they werent consistently good pistols. sw was capable of putting out good guns the performance center ones were great. a significant percent of the normal ones they were letting out into the wild were functioning trash. not bad enough to break or warranty but not good enough to recommend. even if you liked the guns youd hesitate on buying a second cause you didnt know if it would be as good as the first.
    they lost marketshare for good reason. then there was the whole naming clusterfrick.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Smith and Wesson have repeatedly given the tired corps-rat excuse of "iTz nOT eCoNoMicAL" to produce a alloy or steel framed DA/SA hammer fired pistol.
    Alright then, why are there are companies in Turkey, Brazil, Italy, Spain and Serbia that make copies of the Beretta 92, the CZ-75 and 97, and Sig P22x series (all famous DA/SA pistols). In many cases these copies are VERY good to excellent. Somehow, to all of THESE companies it's miraculously "economical". And don't say "muh LaYbiR costZ". Wrong. With modern production labor costs only figure only a few percent into the costs. See, it's not that it's uneconomical. It's that the corporate companies are mismanaged to hell and can't manage design and manufacturing projects well enough to pivot with new products and maintain competitiveness. It's a complete MANAGEMENT problem not a technology or manufacturing problem at all. So it looks like if you want a NEW American pistol, you're mostly stuck with toy material and striker fired.
    I hope to hell that Taurus or maybe even some Turkish no name company starts producing copies of the S&W 4506, 1006 and 6906 and stuff. I mean come on, Taurus practically copys everything S&W makes in terms of revolvers (they are actually S&W's bastard child).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Taurus has made a S&W-like steel pistol since the 1990s, it was their first .40 S&W pistols. It's the Taurus PT900 series, their first 9mm pistol even took Smith & Wesson 9mm magazines.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Taurus PT900
        those are straight up berretas with closed slides
        nothing about them screams s&w
        as for mag compatibilty most doublestack mags of that era sig berreta etc were the same body with the catch in silghtly different locations

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly yeah, they go and make metal versions of the M&P pistols when they had perfectly good legacy designs that the children of boomers feel nostalgic for.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God i'd kill for one with a frame safety instead of a dewienerer, that ship sailed eons ago though

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frame safeties are fricking moronic on DA/SA, safeties at all are too but for cops and military it makes sense

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Favorite handgun I own is a Performance Center 4006 Shorty Forty. I don't shoot it much because its in 40, but man it's a really nice gun. It's actually my back up carry gun, but it is heavy as frick. I'm also stupid and own three 39-2. I just love these guns in general, but I've since stopped buying old guns for the sake of collecting now.
    There was a surprise lot of over run 5946 originally for the Canadian police being sold by Cabelas around 2018-2019 and they were asking around 800 bucks.
    Man, imagine a modern shorty 9 with staggered mags, optics plate, and rail.

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