Why cant military food improve? Seems like it gotten worse over the years, no more comfy cook camping with the boys

Why can’t military food improve? Seems like it gotten worse over the years, no more comfy cook camping with the boys…

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cook camping
    >gets droned/shelled

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I doubt many soldiers want to put in the effort to start a cooking fire when they can just use the magic cooking bag.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Field kitchens still exist and are what you were meant to hand off your letter rations to to be made into a half-decent meal, but the kind of warfare in the modern day makes operating them near the front less practical.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hear me out: Drone-delivered piping hots. They're already working on more complex shit like casevac drones, a pizza delivery boi can't be too difficult to produce.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would you rather have food or no food? In the olden days, people very often had no food, or the food was poorly maintained and made them sick, modern super processed stuff helps prevent that from happening.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >disgusted steve

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fact modern soldiers are in the field... let alone long enough in the field to get hungry, is a failure of the military.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do you really want to carry a sack of flour into battle?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We literally do cook in the field, moron. MREs are for situations where you can't really set up camp for a cookout. Aside from that, if you see the actual shit they ate back then, you will realize the people back then had it worse. Tasting with history did a few videos about what soldiers ate back in the day before MRE became a thing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Max is a treasure.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wasn't it mostly hard tack and pemmican?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pemmican was mostly used by native americans, it wasnt used by the europeans until the 1800s, and even then was mostly a colonial thing

        the british rations of the napoleonic wars while campaigning in the continent was 1.5lb bread (probably hardtack), 1lb beef or 0.5lb pork (probably salted, salt pork tasted better than saltbeef so was in higher demand), and a few ounces of peas, rice, and butter

        you could eat these things straight, but you wouldnt want to
        they would usually be cooked first over a fire into a stew or soup, though obviously not an option if you were on the march or were worried about concealment
        if you ever had a burger while deployed, you ate better than even the generals of a napoleonic era army

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally this.
      What the frick are you talking about OP?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Know this dude who was arty and he told me how new guys would drink a shot of the shit they swabbed out of the barrels of their arty pieces. Does that count as cooking?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've seen a notinregz video on Instagram where artillerymen were drinking water out of used shells.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not sure what you mean by this OP. In the Legion, it was normal for one man in the Conteburnium to cook (so like 1 in 8-10). They would probably rotate and were limited to foods that could be locally procured or sustained through the baggage train. Their food would be reasonably nutritious and varied with grain, meat, oil, and butter, and whatever else could be procured locally. The Romans had it pretty good, but with that said you're confined on a relatively flimsy logistical system and seasonal changes, crop yields etc. A modern military cannot subsist and sustain operations with those variables. Romans specifically had it good, but food shortages among the legions were a critical vulnerability. In Caesar's Gallic Wars there were a number of times were his men were at the mercy of tribes with dubious loyalty to provide grain.

      In my opinion, the best breakthrough of military rations are the K rations from WWII, and their development into meal combat individual. The U.S. had a decisive edge over all of its counterparts of the time.

      I've had that. It tasted like sulfur and copper. Probably reduced my lifespan by a few years. Its just an initiation ritual though. The first time you run the gauntlet (crew every position on the gun in short succession) you then take a shot with the primer case. After you take the shot you are supposed to get jumped by the crew too.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    military food is better these days than it has ever been in human history you moron

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think you are thinking about how soldiers in ancient times could hunt and raid to get food and expected slightly better food than what they would have at home, but modern rations I believe are still better.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because gaygets like you just complain instead of doing something about it

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no more comfy cook camping with the boys…
    Yeah, now you get containerized field kitchens and entire fricking fast food chains shipped across the planet.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    those historical figures you are referring to are men and boys who had sex with eachother.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just 20 years ago you could be cooking out with the boys during an active firefight.

    Probably still could if America gets involved in something again. There'd be an active drone-killer with em jamming, a high-powered laser, and radar-directed flak just so the boys can get their burgers.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what is a field kitchen

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Managing a campfire always sucks when you've spent the whole day walking cross-country, setting up tents in a shitty wet forest, doing your maintenance and your duties just to look forward to a whopping 4h of sleep, mostly interrupted by your tent coinhabitors farting too loudly because them beanz maan. Btw the dude by the campfire gets 2h of sleep, then changes with another who also gets 2h. Now you also get fricking droned by a former War Thunder addict when you try to do so. MREs are a blessing.

    also Romans had a whole mob of auxillaries, servants and slaves assisting in putting up a camp and doing all the logistics. When they didn't they had to scavenge in a forest/desert full of barbarians just waiting for them to leave their camp.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      Imagine marching all day from dawn to dusk just to get to the enemy camp. You can see it now but your entire unit is exhausted and your CO isn't stupid enough to making you fight tired if he doesn't have to. So you make camp but what do you have for dinner? Can't make a cook fire this close to the enemy, they'd see the fire and mortar you to hell and gone. MREs are the way to go. Even ye olden MREs were basically canned goods, pre cooked and pasteurized for longevity. Modern ones might even have flameless heaters so you've got a warm meal. Either way, there's no cook time so you can get to sleep faster.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >comfy cook camping
    moron

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MREs are meant as mobile food. Something you don't need to go back to camp for or set up a cookfire. Modern field kitchens serve food truck grade fare. Not fine dining but better than what most of us can make at home.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >better than what most of us can make at home
      speak for yourself

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most isn't all. Anybody who takes time to learn cooking can make a better meal but more and more I'm seeing that people don't want to cook for themselves. It's all microwave dinners or takeout.

        Kinda depressing, really.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          More people have full time jobs and no partner to share the burden with than ever before, it's only natural that no one wants to cook.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think that is bullshit
            I've a more than full time job and no partner
            You can cook for several days in one go and end up with better tasting food reheated than the slop you get from the freezer or take away
            if anything cooking and taking a nice long shit while the potatoes are boiling is when I shake of work me and calm down for a the rest of the evening

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cooking in batches means you have food for a couple of days ready in less than an hour.
            There are appliances that allow you to get a hearty meal with basically no hassle and minimal cleaning.
            The real issue is a lack of agency, and instant gratification being only an app and a couple of taps away.
            I see it on myself as well, but I grew up in a turbo poorgay household so I keep myself back, but people younger than mid 20s are fricking cooked (and with urbanites it extends all the way to late 30s guys, they'll just make all sorts of excuses like "I'm too depressed to heat up a meal, why do you hate disabled people, delivery is a human right!")

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it is
          just look at the amount of adds for food delivery/ready cooked/meal plans
          there is a commercial incentive in turning kids into morons that can't cook or even do their own groceries. Because a life long service gets you higher margins than selling the basics for home cooking.
          But i do hope that the anons here can coo/k/ better than your average zoomer of PrepHole anon

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no more comfy cook camping with the boys

    When you were on campaign, 90% of the time you ate grain porridge and maybe some dried meat, and 10% of the time you ate whatever you stole from the locals at swordpoint.
    If you gave a Roman legion a truckload of MREs to sample, they would sacrifice their newborns to get a lifetime supply, and if you told the imperial legate they'll remain edible for the next twenty years, he would probably want you for an emperor.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's frowned down nowadays to forage (i.e. steal farmer's food) in the army

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read Rifleman Dodd and try again

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Canning was a real breakthrough. Being able to preserve food meant being able to stockpile food forward to the troops, and transport it in manageable fashion in gigaton amounts from wherever it came from.

    British troops LIVED on Bully beef through two world wars. It mostly came from cows in Argentina.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Took em a bit to get the canning techniques right tho, lead poisoning is a motherfricker. We have it so fricking easy, an 89 cent Walmart bullshit can is going to last for decades. No reason to not stack cans.

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