Why cant euros design and build stealth aircraft?

Why can’t euros design and build stealth aircraft?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    we prefer to spend money on more sensible things like a public healthcare. We can leave our defense to you americans.
    Thanks for footing our bill wagie

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      refugees

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Americans do it better so we just buy from them. Why is that a problem? Europe makes the only good small arms in the world, and you buy those from us. Could ask the same question back.

      >t. Hans Müllerov from Bavaria Autonomous Oblast

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>t. Hans Müllerov from Bavaria Autonomous Oblast

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Europe makes the only good small arms in the world
        9/10, you got me.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I knew I eventually would, but I also meant it.
          >H&K
          >FN Herstal
          >SIG Sauer
          >Glock
          >Beretta
          >Benelli
          >CZ
          >Steyr
          >Kalashnikov (if you include the Mongol part of Europe)
          +++++

          Now let's see America's hand...
          >S&W
          >Ruger
          >Remington
          >Armalite
          >Colt (European owned, but okay)
          >Mossberg (Founded by a Swede, uses the Swedish flag and royal insignia. But again okay)
          uuh
          >Calico
          >Kel-Tec

          I already admitted your planes are better. Your IFV's are better. Your GMLRS are probably better. Most of what would matter in a war you probably do better. But you're not gonna change my mind on small arms this millennia

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Americans do it better so we just buy from them. Why is that a problem? Europe makes the only good small arms in the world, and you buy those from us. Could ask the same question back.

      >t. Hans Müllerov from Bavaria Autonomous Oblast

      There hasnt been a major war in 80 years.
      No one knows what the collective genius of 15 million 150IQ people could accomplish when pitted against each other in a race against time.
      135 engineering students from the Ivy's or West point are not pushing the envelope they are just in a high budget robotics class.
      Its going to be some random farmer's son who won the genetic lottery with 50 others like him conscripted into a practical dev team who will produce the next "meta" weaponry.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thank you for healthcare sir

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't that what the 40-60% income tax is for?

        Yes, and even if in total numbers I would look poor to an american (my net salary is 2600€ per month) I still manage to live a far better life than the vast majority of americans.
        I own 2 houses (one built and one inherited), I had to get emergency life saving surgery last year and I immediately got it without having to wait nor having to pay anything beside the ticket for my income which was 36€.
        The food I eat isn't chockfull of cancerous chemicals and is tasty, While it sucks that I need to get a license it's easy to get and I can own whatever I want like ar-15s and handguns (no full auto)
        I don't have to fear that my son is going to get shot at school nor do I have to worry about my retirement as even if I were to be unenployed for my entire life I would get the minimum pension anyway.
        I'll be honest, if my country were to turn into a 61% white hellhole like the US then I would probably just move to the US to enjoy the wide open spaces and gun rights (food would still be a huge problem tho)
        But even with all the recent immigration the darkest eu country is still like 86% white while most others are all 95%+

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Whats funny is you Black folk never say which country, you just say "europe" and cherry pick from different countries because you know you'll get made fun of if you say Sweden, Germany or Engarlang. Literally cant handle the bants.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            most american posters will never say what state they are from because a good chunk of them are from coastal gun grabbing states

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >tfw new jersey the worst of america and europe combined
              I live in the nice piney parts with farms everywhere but it still hurts

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                hey man I've been there god must have been a decade ago by now visiting friends with my brother.
                real nice place (or at least it was when I was there)
                and one of those place I the US where it felt like you didn't need guns al that much because you know, no Black folk

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you idiots realize how few people die in school shootings? If you average them out we have like 5-10 deaths a year. We have 68 million K-12 students and we lose more to asthma attacks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            still 100x than every other country. And it's not because of the guns, it's because your society is sick and twisted.

            https://i.imgur.com/0HTgnoH.jpeg

            Every single time I hear a comment from a European complaining about America, I always realize it's coming from someone that is living worse than me and is just seething. They make less, they have less access to entertainment, healthcare (yes these frickers will leave their universal hellholes to shop for better care here), food, pretty much anything other than at leasht our schewls aren't call of israelitety

            >I always realize it's coming from someone that is living worse than me and is just seething.
            I literally live a life you can't afford while making less than half you make.
            >less access to entertainement
            such as? troony shows? hollywood slop? because real entertainement is going to the bar with friends, walking with your gf in the evening thru your town that isn't a whole walmart lot etc
            >healthcare
            Nah, our healtcare is way better than yours considering ours actually functions and is free. Defending a system that bankrupts your citizens for the crimes of getting sick is diabolical.
            >food
            LMAOOOO LMAOO LMAOOO you americans don't even know what real food is. the apex of your haute cuisine is fricking McDonalds and even your fricking lettuce is pumped with HFCS
            >pretty much anything other than at leasht our schewls aren't call of israelitety
            No idea what that even means.

            Whats funny is you Black folk never say which country, you just say "europe" and cherry pick from different countries because you know you'll get made fun of if you say Sweden, Germany or Engarlang. Literally cant handle the bants.

            You mutts are the first to broadly categorize us as "europe". What's the issue? You're mad that by not telling you what my country is you can't cherrypick some insults?
            It's almost as hilarious as when you americans make fun of us europeans yet the moment we make you notice that we real europeans don't consider you americans white europeans but brown americans you immediately fly in a uncontrolled rage, as you guys put it; "I'M PART IRISH PART ITALIAN PART GERMAN AMERICAN" kek. You're so proud of the US yet you hate being "only" americans.
            Face it, without your 2nd amendment the US would be hell on earth.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Holy fricking seethe kek

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >because real entertainement is going to the bar with friends
              Sometimes it’s hard to tell what’s bait and what isn’t. This would classify as excellent bait

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >still 100x than every other country
              Russia had a school shooting this century with over 300 people dead.
              China at LEAST once a year has some crazy dildo run around hatcheting a bunch of kindergarten-aged school children with a knife or an axe or a machete.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >because real entertainement is going to the bar with friends, walking with your gf in the evening thru your town that isn't a whole walmart lot etc

              So your cope is that America doesn't have bars?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no, that your idea of entertainement is mindless consumerism.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those are israelites, boomers and infantile leftists, not Americans.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >still 100x than every other country.
              Meanwhile entire schools areshot up and kidnapped in Africa and the Middle East

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the US has to compare their schools with africa and the middle east
                Congrats?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you admit you were incorrect or lying

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >real entertainement is going to the bar

              ah yes crippling alcoholism. the national average german drinks more in a week than i or anyone in my family does in a month

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >eats McDonalds once
              >"ah yes this clearly must be the only thing an entire nation eats"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like a great life.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Every single time I hear a comment from a European complaining about America, I always realize it's coming from someone that is living worse than me and is just seething. They make less, they have less access to entertainment, healthcare (yes these frickers will leave their universal hellholes to shop for better care here), food, pretty much anything other than at leasht our schewls aren't call of israelitety

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you homosexuals so chronically insecure? I mean are you actually this pathetic, or are you vatBlack folk participating in some kind of D&C shit to make Americans look even more moronic than they are?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              he's right tho
              t. euro
              (unironically)

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              NTA but you eurogays kicked that ball out into the field. Don't get pissed when we kick it back.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Like I said, fricking SEETHING. You're the one typing out a massive paragraph about some bullshit demographic nonsense as if Europe isn't facing the same frickin bullshit lol. Don't start no shit there won't be no shit homosexual.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s not seething when someone calls you on your shirt warriortard. If you didn’t spend 3/4 of everyday spreading lies on here then perhaps you wouldn’t always be taken to task by genuine anons fighting for board quality. We can all see that the filename of your OP picture has an iPhone tagline

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what about my shirt, i just cleaned it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >as if Europe isn't facing the same frickin bullshit
                The US is 61% white (and you're counting latinos, slavs, and arabs). the average EU country is 95% white with france being hell on earth and still being 85% white. We're not the same. We are slowly dying, you are dead since the 80s.

                Holy fricking seethe kek

                no argument, I accept your defeat

                >because real entertainement is going to the bar with friends
                Sometimes it’s hard to tell what’s bait and what isn’t. This would classify as excellent bait

                What's better, going out to drink with your friends IRL and going clubbing or watching the latest marvel slopfest near a furry convention?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > the average EU country is 95% white with france being hell on earth and still being 85% white.
                Not Germany if you don’t count the old fricks. In fact the number of children under 10 with migrant background recently hit over 50%

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if you don't count the white germans and make up a statistics while only taking in consideration small kids ackthually german..
                Yeah, no. It's made up bullshit. Post a single piece of evidence.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You realize America is a nation of over 350 million people right? Not all of us are brainless sheep. So far this month I went to the drag strip, walked though a local DNR game area and parks in different towns, went tubing on the local river, went bowling, saw 2 concerts (one of which was free) and rode my bike at least 50 miles, which is low for me but it is hot and I've been doing lots of overtime.
                Still have plans to go fishing, shooting and to a museum before the month ends.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                good on you annon, most of this tread is just insecure people and trolls trying to fan shit.
                Haven't been able to do much this month because my brother is visiting from the other side of the world and I can't go hunting now because of hung seasons. Going to make a short trip up to Estonia for a hunt at the start of July.

                >New Zealand is the hidden israeliteel.
                Unironically correct.
                >Mostly anglo, especially if you're in the bottom three quarters of the country geographically.
                >Maori are generally pretty cool dudes, and act as a homosexual filter because we get the big ones to scream at any important foreigners for "cultural and diplomatic reasons".
                >Asians are common, because asians with money and brains decide to move here for QOL, but asian hate is accepted (unless they're cool c**ts).
                >Some of the highest economic and personal freedoms in the world. Compete for first place for overall freedoms with Switzerland.
                >No big GDP, but generally top three for economic freedom, and does statistically very good work for relatively little dosh.
                >Minimal stake in things outside being a dairy, wine, food and tourism provider so no real big enemies at a diplomatic scale.
                >Nice, comfy place where you can watch the rest of the world on the tv implode to assorted politicking and mouse utopia related issues.

                shit gun laws tough

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                man that camo is beautiful when used up by Mid-east sand but frick ugly when brand new

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >food would still be a huge problem tho
          It's actually not.
          t. Rural Michigan PrepHoleizen

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It really is, every single meat you sell is treated with cancerous chemicals that are banned even in third world countries, same for your "fresh produce" and you literally have all the varieties of mushrooms available in your stores but they literally taste of water because you grow stuff in sterilized chemical soil replacement.
            And btw, eating chicken, rice and broccoli 7 days a week for life as you PrepHoletards do is disgusting. Eat real food and start doing cardio

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >every single meat you sell is treated with cancerous chemicals
              I eat game and beef, pork and eggs raised by small family farmers who are friends or friends of friends/coworkers. There's even a guy at work who makes maple syrup every year using wood heat and sells it cheap.
              Not all of us are moronic urbanites or walmart shoppers.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I forgot the local Amish cheese and raw milk although they usually will only sell the milk to you after a few cheese purchases
                And the pick-your-own berry and apple farms
                I didn't put in a garden this year though, which I regret

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't that what the 40-60% income tax is for?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      American wages live better more comfortable lives than successful europeans lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I still can't breathe from the keks of knowing that a low-tier walmart employee here in the US is doing better financially than a huge portion of Europe, while still living in parts of the US that have far lower costs of living that most of europe.

        Though as far as QOL is concerned, I'll openly admit that Scandis, the Swiss, and the Dutch are absolutely model 1st world paradises compared to many of our own flyover shitholes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "The american dream' pipedream has brainwashed so many americans that they are completely oblivious to the fact that a poor wagie in europe has a better quality of life and disposable income than a well off individual in any americ*n city.
          You think freedom is going bankrupt from a PET scan that in most US hospitals costs unironically 1800% more than what it costs in europe while also using older equipment.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kek, you wrote all of that to soothe your seethe?

            Europeans who earn more than $80K/year are a myth lmao.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >no argument again
              >didn't even understand what I wrote as evident by you bringing up "euros who make 80k a year for no reason
              Jesus frick, why are you americans so dumb you can't even understand your own language?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're poor and angry and can't do a single thing about it other than to effortpost and seethe bitterly on American websites using ESL-tier English.

                >watch him seethe and poor again lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >projecting
                I accept your defeat.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >meanwhile IRL

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              bro, you've been seething the entire thread because one uppity little european was bragging about his QoL
              i mean you're on a majority american board and the moment anyone mentions ANYTHING negative about america as compared to european countries you fly into a fit of rage. maybe all that talk of europeans being insecure was projection? i'm sure we were back during the days when america was starting to take center stage in world affairs, but right now?
              who's really seething here? you're punching air atm.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >New Zealand is the hidden israeliteel.
              Unironically correct.
              >Mostly anglo, especially if you're in the bottom three quarters of the country geographically.
              >Maori are generally pretty cool dudes, and act as a homosexual filter because we get the big ones to scream at any important foreigners for "cultural and diplomatic reasons".
              >Asians are common, because asians with money and brains decide to move here for QOL, but asian hate is accepted (unless they're cool c**ts).
              >Some of the highest economic and personal freedoms in the world. Compete for first place for overall freedoms with Switzerland.
              >No big GDP, but generally top three for economic freedom, and does statistically very good work for relatively little dosh.
              >Minimal stake in things outside being a dairy, wine, food and tourism provider so no real big enemies at a diplomatic scale.
              >Nice, comfy place where you can watch the rest of the world on the tv implode to assorted politicking and mouse utopia related issues.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm broke as frick and live like a king my dude
              and I'd be pissed if my government were to spend more in weaponry than healthcare or education

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >costs unironically 1800% more
            Someone has to pay for Goldberg the insurance owner 5th mansion.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you’re a bongistani posting this people under the NHS are now on average payer more out of pocket than the fricked up American system so uh…

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >bongistani
        nope

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be honest, those funds come directly from your paychecks just like they come from ours.
      The only reason Americans don't have a single payer system is that we don't want one. Our private healthcare is superior in all aspects in terms of quality and expediency.
      We do all of this while having a better military industrial complex that shits on Airbus and Leonardo.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm German and that sentence was fricking pathetic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking based. Knowing we can indulge in a socialist society with free education, free healthcare etc and americans who hate socialism so much are footing our bill will never not make me feel warm inside.
      Next time you're doing overtime at work (banned here) think that you're paying for my 4 weeks of paid vacations.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Americans will rage at this post, while simultaneously defending the US providing for Europe's defense

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >turn over your defense and therefore sovereignty to another country
        >now you exist at the mercy of that country
        >"a-a-at least we have f-free doctor's visits..."
        Odd flex but if you're happy, we're happy 🙂

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    America's B-2 fleet is only 21 strong, the largest economy in the world baulked at the price.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Each one of these can carry nuclear weapons undetected halfway across the world and drop them onto Beijing’s doorstep, I’d say they’re worth the $2 billion they cost.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >nuke place
        >get nuked back 15 minutes later
        ever since nuclear subs are a thing there's just not much use for those

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We can drop regular bombs and anti-ship missiles too. Our satellites have a vague idea of where the Chinese keep their TELAR and that’s where the tomahawks are going.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're too busy getting raped by ahmed and mbapu.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All euros are sex freaks. Ol' Fritz would rather have his wife and kids gang raped by Muhamad and his 10 friends called Muhamad than be called a racist. Fritz would also probably rather smear his own face with his own shit than do anythign to hurt the feelz of the "new Germans".
      All the more reason the USA should leave the Euroscum to their own fate. The USA has more than enough problems with the leftists and affirmative action subhumans destroying this country.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We do and they're so good you guys still haven't seen them.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is no Finnish stealth aircraft program, that's just a rumour amongst conscripts. Ilmatar stealth planes and Tuulikki drones are a myth.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why drain our economy and neglect healthcare and infrastructure and food quality and make people poor for toys and meme wars that destabilize foreign countries and cause mass immigration which compounds all previous issues, when Americans are already the experts at doing this?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bon jour, i am pierre baguetteovich of paris oblast and i agree. Americans are stupid smelly mutts that are not our historic allies.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They designed this.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why can’t euros design and build stealth aircraft?
      They're literally not allowed to:
      >The Lampyridae programme was conducted between 1981 and 1987. The reasoning behind the programme's unceremonious cancellation during 1987 is unknown, there having been no announcement on the subject made by either by MBB nor the government of West Germany at the time.[4] Aircraft publication Aviation Week attributed alleged closed-room pressure tactics on the part of the United States, who had recently been made aware of the programme's existence and not wanting a competing stealth aircraft to their own efforts to come to fruition, as having played a key role in its termination.[6]

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nah I don't buy this, much more likely that they just cut funding after the dissolution of the soviet union. Or it was only a tech demonstrator to begin with

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, the Americans forcing them to shut it down is far more likely.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >T-THE YANKS MADE US SHUT IT DOWN GOY
            >design barely worked anyway and was eating up a huge amount of a country's military budget
            Wasn't fooled when leafs tried this little trick and I certainly won't be fooled by eurokeks.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bullshit
          >suspiciously cancelled in 1987
          >under a conservative, generally more pro-MIC chancellor
          >2 years before the fall of the Berlin Wall
          >4 years before the collapse of the Soviet Union
          >6 years before the end of the G11 program
          The only alternative to CIA meddling is that MBB didn’t know what they had on their hands
          But at that point even in public the strategic benefits of stealth were already well thought out and the technology postulated, mind you red storm rising came out a year prior

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why can’t Timmys compete

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Euros will be Group Project so the hoax that is Stealth is much harder to pull off. You can get a group of French, Germans, Spics, Brits, Dutch to run meetings and all be lying to themselves and to each other...but only as long as the group is ethnically pure, and authority is all vertical within the pure group.

    You put Frogs and Krauts in the same meeting and they will call out each other's BS, as an Ethnic based "own".

    BTW, this is how and why Euros fought what I call "The Christian Wars". It was all fine to enforce a cuck false religion on a single group, but if those groups meet they will call out the BS of the other group.

    Many parallels between "Stealth" and The Church. 🙂

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    many euro nations are part of the f35 programme.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its just supplier contracts to get access to the program - this bird was designed in California

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Europeans would start infighting over details, who gets to do what and who gets to lead the project.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Leftists.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there hasn't been a need. stealth is a very useful concept for an aggressor, and for the most part, europe was content to focus on being a defender in all possible new wars. by the time most european countries were looking into the possibility, the F-35 was looking for buyers, and stealth plane development is VERY expensive. so europe, being broadly pro-Pax Americana, was perfectly happy to buy american stealth planes, and maybe suggest a point or two along the way. we may in fact see many european nations start looking into the concept more as the war in ukraine ends, or as the concept of the conflict spilling over further expands. there also hasn't been a stealth on stealth conflict in the air yet, and nobody's quite sure how it'll play out if it does happen, so there's a bit of an unknown there, and european governments have been fairly risk adverse since the end of WW2, and have only grown more so after the fall of the USSR. the recent movements as a result of the 2022 invasion are actually a sign that this way of thinking is beginning to fall away, as war is once more a possibility.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stealth < Quality Intel < Total Air Superiority
    We do it to show off and encourage enemies to spend into debt, a la Star Wars.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Eurotrash are all lazy serfs with a serf's mentality. It is the reason they want a daddy government to take care of them, as if they were cows waiting to be milked.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ?

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't Americucks come up with original designs?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pic unrelated

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    European here. We are busy making new laws to impoverish our people, giving free money to african and muslim invaders, fighting the far right and saving the climate.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    technically there is nEUROn
    which is ready for production
    and from leaked / published specs it seems to be one of the most advanced stealth drones currently out there
    but got basically scraped in favor of FCAS

    though other than France and maybe GB there aren't any European countries that would need a 25million€ stealth drone
    most EU countries (even big ones like Germany) mostly have reconnaissance needs which can be dealt with by smaller drones
    and in recent years pseudo satellites

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How is neuron a competitor, arent they like complementary?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/FukZITp.jpeg

      ?

      >rq-170 clone

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nEuron was only a demonstrator to show that they can if they want.
      And the idea of wingmen type drone wasn't scrapped, they are planning to make some for the Rafale v5.

      Some SCAF would be unmanned.
      The main force would likely be the production of high-attrition drone, taking the hit so the costly aircrafts can kill the enemy costly defenses.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As someone in the military industry I can tell you that it's about Monday, just look at countries like Sweden which can make very good planes but almost everyone will buy F-16 anyway over the gripen or even Chinese and Russian planes over the gripen.

    Why? Primarily because weapons sales on this scale go trough politicians. Buying American gets you some political influence and possibly better trade deals with the USA.
    Nobody really needs a trade deal with Sweden or swedish political support.

    If you cannot buy American than most likely you can't buy European either as the USA has a lot of influence on EU foreign policy so sanctions are almost in lockstep.

    In that case you buy Russian or Chinese.

    The EU is too fragmented to effectively apply international politics to it's weapons sales as a block and many countries would buy American anyway even within the EU as unlikely for the US states Texas cannot simply buy gripens because they are annoyed with whichever US state makes F16s as procurement is united. EU procurement is all over the place and there is no joint military.

    So ultimately even if the EU could make stealth planes it's just not economically viable as to make sense over the F35 for example they would need to produce hundreds and jet they can't even agree on making an EU tank that is good for all without b***hing for a decade because the German want a over engineered Porsche engine in it, the British want a tea kettle above the radio, the french well they are french and the Italians because they want a stick shift option.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because we have the technology to shoot them down

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's a cellphone tower, anon.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stealth?
    Anon, vhy zis stealth? Zere is no need for eet.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Money
    >Smaller national industries forcing cooperation, which after Eurofighter they aren't eager to do
    Basically the US (and China, I guess) have an advantage in building these large expensive aircraft because they have the money and depth in their industrial bases to handle manufacure of these planes mostly on their own.
    (Now here comes a Jap, Brit, or Swede insisting F-35 couldn't exist without the one specific part they made for it, instead of realizing they were merely the lower-cost option)

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stealth is monkey brain American shit, see Yugoslav civil war. F35 is a hampering performance for some DoD goons’ wet dream about making things invisible and some coked out business executives egging them on.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why can’t euros
    aging, zombie continent
    there's a reason why US doesn't really care much nowadays

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Europeans are utterly buck broken on a macro scale (war is le bad, we shouldn spend this money on gibs for migrants instead of outdated, nationalis idea of defending your country) but at the same time comically nationalistic on a micro scale (I'd rather nuke the whole project than let springs for the rear landing gear be assembled in Poopdickoux rather than our wienerundassengard).

    This combination hardly even results in working military projects.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    amerimutts can't stop their state of the art planes from crashing all the time and think they can take on China lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we'll see before long, chang

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >euros cooperating well enough to develop stealth aircraft
    lmao

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >another thread in which subhuman europoors use american technology to access american websites just to seethe, cry, and cope about american superiority

    burgerclaps, this is what you get for allowing the rest of the world internet access kek.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frog here, this anon is right. Shameful display by some insecure anons in this thread. We don't build stealth planes because we are smol countries. The rafale is cool and shiet, but cheaper to develop than a stealth bomber. Also we have our SNLE to ensure nuclear second strike capability, so we don't need the stealth bombers on a strategic level

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, 2006 the era PHP website made from a cloned Japanese one by a teenage weeb, and hasn't been updated since is a prime example of American technological supremacy

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because we don't want to make overpriced aircraft that are still vulnerable to a bunch of drunken Serbs with vacuum tube Soviet radars

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >3 rapid replies with maximum muslin fury

    Utter state of European bank accounts and emotions lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Damn, I really destroyed your insecure fat ass. I am sorry. Don't pop a vein, you can't afford it.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The poor Arab is still angrily replying dutifully
    europoors simply can't stop venting and crying. How did America manage to leave that entire continent of theirs with a complex kek

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >still projecting his seethe onto everyone else
      wew lad, burgers have become so insecure.
      you know you guys were cool a few years ago when you didn't cry and sniffle the moment anyone said anything mean. this behaviour is so antithetical to the view you have of yourself lmao, must feel shameful.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only one here having a meltdown is you. You needing to triple down in trying to convince yourself that the one mad here isn't you is kinda funny

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Let me tell you about your country: the thread

    everyone ITT is an imbecile.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The B-21 is secretly made is a small boutique workshop in Milan so they do.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >where are the yuro stealth crafts?
    >muh 56%
    >muh artesional breads
    >muh healthcare
    >muh just as good gun laws
    Frick this thread filled with salty yuros quickly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm just loving how easy it is to make europoors detonate with rage. Kek, i'm not even reading their replies and im still getting lengthy (You)s every time.

      >w-we have eco-friendly mosques all over europe you dumb mutt!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You keep making us proud brother

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's all too easy considering the inferiority complex of europeans.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >more projecting
            I'll never understand how americans can be this insecure while also being the strongest military in the world.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The U.S. really doesn't want us to.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a) no european country has a use case for a stealth plane
    b) no single country has the defense spending to do so without it impacting other parts of their militaries
    c) no one wants to collaborate on it because they don't feel like they need it
    d) in the cases where they would need it (a full scale war with a peer) the US is already going to be involved or the US is going to wienerblock them
    e) you can just buy it from the americans at a fraction the cost of what doing it yourself will cost you

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Endless dividends of Eurabian seething lmao.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hot damn we've got some very ORGANIC division tactics ITT, OP included. And it's working too. The Mueller report should be required curriculum in high schools (all over the West) the way you morons are gobbling it up

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol at the Indian and Chinese women outliers. They can't stand the street shitters either.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You kids are mentally ill.
    Not one of you children would say anything you write here out loud in your homes or on the street.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We don't want/need to. You think our industry giants like Airbus, that builds a thousand airliners per year, won't be able to build a B-2?

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    just a reminder that airbus's stealth drone has fricking canards.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ramp
      >canards
      Is there any other military accessory that screams poorgay "just as good" cope?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So?
      The X-36 would like a word.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    man this thread has some great american cope, i'm guessing they're not handling the whole boeing getting rekt by airbus thing well.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >airbus makes one stealth drone
      we wuz kingz n sheeit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think he was talking about our collapsing civil aviation industry, anon.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Euro isn't a single country capable of putting as much money into a niche stealth-only bomber.

    That or the secret Euro power are ridiculously good at information warfare and hid that we have the ability to perform hypersonic stealth strike invisible even to IR radar anywhere in the world.
    They don't because with that kind of power they don't really feel a need to do so.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no point if satellites are as good

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder what Western Europeans think of being lumped in with Eastern Europeans lol.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How I feel being lumped in with Californians and West Virginians. Simultaneously gays as frick ruining the earth while also a poor backwoods hillbilly that believes dinosaurs fought cavemen.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they can

    Neuron and Taranis both had demonstrated stealth capability, BAe Replica and the german project are both well documented and successful and the major euorpean powers have stealth 6th gens in development

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You're saying you lack the political will- I think you lack the political unity. Every participant in a joint project like this has reason to make demands to use X system or build in Y country. With a jetliner you aren't dealing with government/military interests (outside of safety) and thus aren't trying to get all of a chimera's heads united into a useful purpose.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We focus on detecting that thing, see Hensoldt radar. Saves lot of money that can be used to buy F-16s and Gripen.

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