Why can't anyone make glue for these tiles that actually works?

Why can't anyone make glue for these tiles that actually works?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nyet, horse glue is fine

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is multi-function. Is tiles and simultaneously interruption camo

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Put stuff into saltwater for extended periods of time, you will figure it out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then why don't American/British/French nuke subs return from patrol missing half their tiles? Why only the Russian ones?

      I can only assume it's some stupid but predictable reason like the special glue factory was in Ukraine or the Baltics and the post-USSR glue stockpile in Russia has been slowly dwindling away for the last 30+ years and at no point in that time have they bothered to replace it because the money got redirected into golden toilets and yachts.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        90's Russia was literally a post-apocalyptic place, man and we're talking about the maintenance of nuclear subs.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tiles fall off all the time. If you look at British boats they often come back with fricked tiles. You have to maintain them after every single patrol. If you dont, and do a couple patrols, you start looking like the OP pic.

        They are motherfrickers to deal with apparently. Even the Zumwalt, which stays above the water, has constant maintenance protocols for the tiles.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Then why don't American/British/French nuke subs return from patrol missing half their tiles? Why only the Russian ones?

          I can only assume it's some stupid but predictable reason like the special glue factory was in Ukraine or the Baltics and the post-USSR glue stockpile in Russia has been slowly dwindling away for the last 30+ years and at no point in that time have they bothered to replace it because the money got redirected into golden toilets and yachts.

          https://i.imgur.com/TOkWUlg.jpg

          Why can't anyone make glue for these tiles that actually works?

          Why not just bolt them to the hull instead of relying on glue? Would that transfer vibrations too strongly?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because putting 3000+ bolts in your watertight, external pressure hull doesn't seem like a good idea. Imagine the leak potential when you have 6000+ joints to make sure are water tight to 1km depth.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              surely there are engineering solutions to avoid having actual holes in your pressure hull though

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's the opposite of stealth right there.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >watertight, external pressure hull
              that isn't how submarines are built. the outer hull is sheet metal so you can attach whatever you need to it. it's like a car - the outer bodywork is just a covering. the wheels are attached to an underlying chassis that actually wears the weight of the vehicle.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Zumwalt boats no longer wear the tiles.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Then why don't American/British/French nuke subs return from patrol missing half their tiles?
        but they do? this feels like a b8 post

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >but they do?
          >?
          >not a question
          Are you 12?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i'm mocking you for clearly talking about shit you don't understand. when telling mongoloids like yourself these things you need to dumb down your speech for them

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I’m not that anon but your statement is still not a question. So again, are you 12?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ESL

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >anon has never heard anyone express their confusion by stating something with an inquisitive tone
            sad! maybe try leaving the house once in a while

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Not how it works, dumbass

              >verification not required

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Learn2 colloquial English.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seawater is hell on ships. You've got saltwater but you've also got all sorts of microorganism living in that saltwater, wide variations in temperature and pressure, the odd cookie cutter shark that wants to know how a submarine tastes, and the constant pressure of moving 30 knots through the water.

        Oh they do but the NATO gang spends more effort to replace those tiles and higher quality glue. Picrel. It's a British sub missing tiles but not that many. Part of the Navy's job is to replace lost tiles as soon as practical.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've just realised that the name-plate is almost exactly the same as they used to do back in the days of UK steam trains.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >but they do?
        >?
        >not a question
        Are you 12?

        >Then why don't American/British/French nuke subs return from patrol missing half their tiles?
        Where do you get these silly notions? American subs can, and do, return to base looking just as shite as their counterparts do.
        For British subs, see above.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What sub is this? I don't think USA has subs this small.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            USS Virginia

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              damn, they look smaller from a close up

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Subs are pretty small in general.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >'We've been aware of the issues, we're making improvements in the process, and we're seeing results already,' said Alan Baribeau, spokesman for the Naval Sea Systems Command in Washington, D.C.

          >The most serious problems for the so-called anechoic coating have been limited to three of the first four subs in that class, the Navy said.

          >While the Navy has used anechoic tiles for years, it instituted a new process with the USS Virginia in which the ship is coated with a 'special hull treatment,' Baribeau said.

          >Problems with the coating on the USS Virginia were noted in 2007.

          >The Navy immediately began working on changes to the application process, he said.

          >All told, the USS Virginia, USS North Carolina and USS Texas each lost 5 percent to 7 percent of their special hull coatings, the Navy said.

          >The amount of coating peeling away has been reduced to less than 2 percent on the USS New Mexico and USS New Hampshire.

          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1317303/US-Navy-scrambles-fix-2bn-stealth-submarine-USS-Virginia.html

          Seems like that was in 2010, and was a problem with new coatings on the Virginia-class that was taken care of. At least reducing the amount of tiles falling off in the 3 years they knew of the problem, from '07 to '10. Do you have any information to show it has gotten worse since then? Stop the cope.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The difference is that the American/British/French can afford to replace the missing tiles.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >British/French
          not for long

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ah yes comrade, they will be overtaken by glorious Roosha and turned into socialist white peoples paradise.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm a bong m8. Shit's pretty grim here nowadays for the average joe and eventually it'll contaminate everything else.
              Maybe frogs got it better, dunno tbh.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    to be totally fair it is an extremely demanding application.
    but they could make it work if they were disciplined.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    poor akula, looks like a scarred up whale.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its not that uncommon for submarines to return home looking like absolute shit. Usually without tiles missing though.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same sub, missing some tiles, was only out for 6 months too. God only knows what sea that was in for the fouling to be so bad. Black Sea is particularly bad for biofouling, but I wouldn't imagine a Vanguard would be in there when it has the whole Med. to lurk about in.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is unsettling, like an organic disease taking over a machine

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thats...not far off. If you don't scrape the parasites off they'll at the very least slow the ship and can even damage anti-rust coatings.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thats...not far off. If you don't scrape the parasites off they'll at the very least slow the ship and can even damage anti-rust coatings.

          whats more unsettling is when you realize that shits been getting inside the reactor secondary coolant circuit too. That must be an absolute joy to ensure its clean for its next voyage.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            As someone who still remembers the six factor equation, that is a weird diagram.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/vRMb2Hh.jpg

      Same sub, missing some tiles, was only out for 6 months too. God only knows what sea that was in for the fouling to be so bad. Black Sea is particularly bad for biofouling, but I wouldn't imagine a Vanguard would be in there when it has the whole Med. to lurk about in.

      god I wish I was a nuke. being born in joke countries means it's over before it even began
      t. gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/vRMb2Hh.jpg

      Same sub, missing some tiles, was only out for 6 months too. God only knows what sea that was in for the fouling to be so bad. Black Sea is particularly bad for biofouling, but I wouldn't imagine a Vanguard would be in there when it has the whole Med. to lurk about in.

      daym I've never seen one looking that bad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/vRMb2Hh.jpg

      Same sub, missing some tiles, was only out for 6 months too. God only knows what sea that was in for the fouling to be so bad. Black Sea is particularly bad for biofouling, but I wouldn't imagine a Vanguard would be in there when it has the whole Med. to lurk about in.

      whats the point of those tiles if they fall off anyway? what do they do?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Absorb sound waves both from internal sources going outwards, and from external sources like an enemy sonar ping. Apparently they're good for about 10dB of sound deadening for the frequencies they're tuned to work on, which effectively is a 99% reduction in volume given how decibels is a logarithmic scale.
        They're more or less "fancy foamed rubber" in construction, basically its like the inside of an Aero chocolate bar inside with the "bubbles" tuned to be a specific size depending on what frequency they want to deaden. Obviously its a gross oversimplification of how they're made, the bubbles have to be a very very precise size and in various specific sizes, and with a good distribution of the sizes throughout the matrix, but its a good general idea of what they're like.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you for the explanation.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mind you, you think they'd keep a stack of spare tiles on the boat, its only polyisobutylate rubber material with whatever process done to it to create the voids in it that make it work so well (presumably just some very specific curing heating process). Surely they could just keep a stack of them handy and some adhesive and whap them on whenever they happen to surface?
    Then again maybe theres just no point if its only a couple of tiles? They can just do it at end of patrol. I guess its not like they want to ever be sitting about on the surface anymore anyway.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can't glue them on top of rust/barnacles, you have to first clean the surface.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      1) The boat does not have time to lollygag at the surface
      2) the area needs proper preperation for the glue to stick, that is loud and time consuming
      3) There is no space on board to keep a "stack" of those tiles and the associated glue. Srsly. When those boats leave port, every square inch of available space is accounted for and used. Some space opens up as patrol goes on because the canned goods are getting eaten, compacted, and dumped, but at the start of patrol? There is no space.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >lollygag
        Oh, you bongs and your funny words, love you c**ts. You need to do away with gun safe storage laws as well as re-allow for people to use firearms in self defense within the confines of their homes tho. Seriously.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >lol·ly·gag
          >/ˈlälēˌɡaɡ/
          >verb
          >INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they have to be glued on?Isn‘t there any other way to keep them in place or do they no longer work properly if they aren’t glued?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if we just wrap the whole sub in shrinkwrap? It works for their namesake sandwich brethren, after all

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Try Frog Lube

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    making good glue that has to deal with salt water is not that easy methinks.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lol. The ww2 German sub U480 with Alberich at the bottom of the English channel still has the anechoic tiles on it today.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We can't let Russia get our Flex Seal

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Puzzle piece them on there. Dovetails idk.

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