Why can iran make fire-and-forget anti-tank guided missile But not russia?

Why can iran make fire-and-forget anti-tank guided missile But not russia?
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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >You don't need FnF if you already have the best weapons...
    Rotten society, institutions, and dachas.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They just copied them.
    Just like they did with the TOW.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No shit? OP said MAKE, not invent, moron. Russia should have the ability to mass produce these, but they're drunken idiots.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    unknown technology блять

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Iran doesn't build or reverse engineer anything. China does that. For example, the engines on Shaheed drones are built in some foundry in China. The electronics are made in China. Iran possibly makes the empty shell. It's the same as any weapon coming from Iran.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      China is behind everything belligerent against the west. Iran is just a puppet, the Chinese make their weapons and Iran is happy to take the credit.
      Same with Pakistan and their Taliban/Al Qaeda. Same with Hamas.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      IDK-- Iran has a pretty long history of reverse engineering their F-4s and F-14s to keep them air worthy and for obvious reasons they were not getting any help from Russia or China on that. They aren't Arab, they can be pretty competent when they want to be, although brain drain is affecting them worse and worse as the wealthier Persians get out and the country becomes just another Arab crap hole.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >IDK-- Iran has a pretty long history of reverse engineering their F-4s and F-14
        that is not what reverse engineering is, frick I hate you homosexuals who misuse words like this

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Considering they had to basically rebuilt half the avionics from the few examples that weren't sabotaged, yeah, it is.

          >reverse engineering their F-4s and F-14s to keep them air worthy
          do tourists really

          Are you saying they didn't? Are you totally ignorant about the Iran-Iraq war?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >reverse engineering their F-4s and F-14s to keep them air worthy
        do tourists really

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What are these figures from?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because Iran was on the path of becoming something like Turkey but they were hijacked by the ayatollahs, there is nothing sadder in this world than nation on the path of westernhood becoming corrupted by the hateful and the mad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nice little bit of israelite fanfiction.
      Iran was effectively under the rule of a Western puppet who pillaged the wealth of yhe nation and sent oil to Israel for free.
      The Ayayollahs were merely an expression of independence.
      Iran acquiring nukes us yhe best thing ever to happen.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >muh based browns!
        holy shit, /misc/ is an actual parody of itself

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          israelites are brown.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > The Ayayollahs were merely an expression of independence.
        Israel (along with others) sent billions in weapons, supplies, and intelligence to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war. If it weren’t for benefactors like these, Saddam would have conquered the Arab portions of Iran.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Just google Mohammad Mosaddegh. Iran was becoming a democracy, but anglos sabotaged everything for their own gain.
          Even today still, despite being no saint, you could still say that Irans current ruling system is more democratic than say in Saudi-Arabia. Even as the clergy has ”absolute power” on paper, in reality they have to constantly bargain and make amends to surprisingly openly elected parliament. I’d say they’re more democratic than Russia or China really. And yet Saudis are our ”friends” and Iran is ”crazy muslim dictatorship”.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > And yet Saudis are our ”friends” and Iran is ”crazy muslim dictatorship”.
            Is is our/us?
            And I suggest doing a little research into to answer your question.
            To simply put it, Sauds and Arabs fought against the ottomans with the help of the British and won their independence.
            They find oil.
            They sell oil to other parts of the world, including the USA and British, who helped build up oil infrastructure.
            Geopolitical landscape changes post WWII and now the Middle East is an important issue for world powers
            Relations now build between Arab states and west/east.
            During the latter half of 20th century there is a revitalization of conservative Islam.
            Both Iran and Saudi Arabia are not immune to this, see the Siege of Mecca.
            Iran’s leader is unpopular with the Poe people and the primary opponents to the regime are clerics, a certain bearded man who has been sitting in France is one.
            Regime collapses and the bearded one and his newly formed IRGC cadres eventually take over and dispose of the the Shah and his government with popular support of the people.
            The young students and adults, full of political zeal, take over the US embassy and hold staff prisoners, with the approval of the state.
            This begins Iran’s declining relationships with foreign powers.
            Iran’s government does other things, such as seizing foreign assets and instituting new laws.
            Iran also starts supporting Shia militants in Lebanon.
            When war with Iraq breaks out, Iran started targeting oil and cargo ships belonging to the international community, not just those belonging to Iraq or moving to/from Iraq.
            This pisses off everyone, including the Soviet Union.
            Iran goes full pariah state.
            Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia and Gulf states become more conservative in law and function but they don’t bite the hands that feed them.
            At least not in an especially provocative manner that would piss off the international community at large.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That same war was fought with almost no support provided. The USSR and the Americans both supported Iraq, the latter very intentionally turning a blind eye to the use of the same chemical weapons and other WMDs whose presence they would cite as justification for invading. Perfectly acceptable in use, killing Iranian civilians and violating the Geneva convention against combatants. The embargo and petulant longstanding grudge against the Iranians for overthrowing a puppet regime is probably one of our greatest foreign policy failures. They have the greatest potential, both economically and as a regional power, at a critical bottleneck in the Eurasian landmass. Their demographics have currently peaked, in terms of productive potential. We wasted that. Swallowing our pride and finding the price for alliance would've paid much greater dividends than trying to cage them. If effecting democracy and opening their society to our economic actors were the goal, the carrot (in prosperity) would've eroded the Wilayet-e-fiqh much faster than stymying their entire society, a process on which their hardliners rely to gin up support. It's also another instance where it looks like our foreign policy is wholly derived from israeli demands. Is the American majority, almost all gentiles, comfortable with such a subordinate position? I'm not an isolationist, I believe in American Empire and think we have faltered in favour of parties like peninsular Arabs and israel. pic related, to address "saar" accusations

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not to mention that a closer relationship with them would have helped keep shakier so-called "allies" like Pakistan more in line. We could have played peacemaker between them and the peninsular Arabs, going for the whole shebang in terms of West Asian oil. The current predicament in Ukraine would've been much better managed had Iran not been a Russian ally. A market of potentially more than 90m people in a middle income, high-ish HDI economy, buying our products. Their regional domination would've become ours. Controlling Iraq post-invasion would've been both welcome and easier, with their Shiite political penetration on our side. The militias would've worked for us. China would've lost a dissemination point for their arms making it into Afghanistan and the hands of terror groups across West Asia. North Korea would've been locked out of a source of oil. In all ways it would've been the smarter play. Of course, I'm talking to bots, shills and vacationing redditors working paid or unpaid for the State Department or our lovely benefactors in tel aviv, so who am I kidding?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/hljffXk.jpg

              That same war was fought with almost no support provided. The USSR and the Americans both supported Iraq, the latter very intentionally turning a blind eye to the use of the same chemical weapons and other WMDs whose presence they would cite as justification for invading. Perfectly acceptable in use, killing Iranian civilians and violating the Geneva convention against combatants. The embargo and petulant longstanding grudge against the Iranians for overthrowing a puppet regime is probably one of our greatest foreign policy failures. They have the greatest potential, both economically and as a regional power, at a critical bottleneck in the Eurasian landmass. Their demographics have currently peaked, in terms of productive potential. We wasted that. Swallowing our pride and finding the price for alliance would've paid much greater dividends than trying to cage them. If effecting democracy and opening their society to our economic actors were the goal, the carrot (in prosperity) would've eroded the Wilayet-e-fiqh much faster than stymying their entire society, a process on which their hardliners rely to gin up support. It's also another instance where it looks like our foreign policy is wholly derived from israeli demands. Is the American majority, almost all gentiles, comfortable with such a subordinate position? I'm not an isolationist, I believe in American Empire and think we have faltered in favour of parties like peninsular Arabs and israel. pic related, to address "saar" accusations

              This bullshit story also tacks on China and Russia in some boogeyman bounty program in Afghanistan, which is utter horseshit.
              The Taliban were being assisted by Paki ISI, who had become an abomination through CIA ops during the Soviet invasion.
              Osama was not hiding in Iran, nor Tajikistan, it was Pakistan. Guns and anmo were being funneled from Pakistan. Fighters would frequently cross in and out of Pakistan. The ISI/CIA continuously obfuscated DoD missions near the border to prevent an end to the taliban’s main artery.
              morons like you eat up the literal bullshit the CIA director (Pompeo) made up to justify forever wars that don’t serve US interests.

              > And yet Saudis are our ”friends” and Iran is ”crazy muslim dictatorship”.
              Is is our/us?
              And I suggest doing a little research into to answer your question.
              To simply put it, Sauds and Arabs fought against the ottomans with the help of the British and won their independence.
              They find oil.
              They sell oil to other parts of the world, including the USA and British, who helped build up oil infrastructure.
              Geopolitical landscape changes post WWII and now the Middle East is an important issue for world powers
              Relations now build between Arab states and west/east.
              During the latter half of 20th century there is a revitalization of conservative Islam.
              Both Iran and Saudi Arabia are not immune to this, see the Siege of Mecca.
              Iran’s leader is unpopular with the Poe people and the primary opponents to the regime are clerics, a certain bearded man who has been sitting in France is one.
              Regime collapses and the bearded one and his newly formed IRGC cadres eventually take over and dispose of the the Shah and his government with popular support of the people.
              The young students and adults, full of political zeal, take over the US embassy and hold staff prisoners, with the approval of the state.
              This begins Iran’s declining relationships with foreign powers.
              Iran’s government does other things, such as seizing foreign assets and instituting new laws.
              Iran also starts supporting Shia militants in Lebanon.
              When war with Iraq breaks out, Iran started targeting oil and cargo ships belonging to the international community, not just those belonging to Iraq or moving to/from Iraq.
              This pisses off everyone, including the Soviet Union.
              Iran goes full pariah state.
              Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia and Gulf states become more conservative in law and function but they don’t bite the hands that feed them.
              At least not in an especially provocative manner that would piss off the international community at large.

              Yall using too many words, i just want dead brown people

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Now this is a misguided take. You should learn more about history of Iran. Irans path to democracy was undermined by USA and Israel in more than one occasion.
      Did you know, that Iran was actually preparing a land intervention to Afghanistan to fight against the Taliban together with the Northern Alliance before 9/11, but USA and Israel forced Iran to stand down, due to their irrational fear of ”Irans sphere of influence” spreading. Iran was (again) on path to becoming a part of modern society, when USA suddenly and without a reason named it as a member of ”Axis of Evil” out of the blue.
      Just ask yourself: why is Iran an enemy of USA? Just WHAT has Iran ever done to you? The answer is: nothing (the real answer is: Israel).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Iran was actually preparing a land intervention to Afghanistan
        This never happened. They offered minimal initial assistance which was quickly replaced by sending weapons and paying bribes to the Taliban to get more Americans killed. They also lobbied anyone they could to not fight the Taliban.
        This is on top of the 600 US troops killed by Iranian-backed militias in Iraq, about 1/5th of all US casualties. Their Iranian-supplied EFPs were particularly deadly.
        >https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/04/04/iran-killed-more-us-troops-in-iraq-than-previously-known-pentagon-says/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This bullshit story also tacks on China and Russia in some boogeyman bounty program in Afghanistan, which is utter horseshit.
          The Taliban were being assisted by Paki ISI, who had become an abomination through CIA ops during the Soviet invasion.
          Osama was not hiding in Iran, nor Tajikistan, it was Pakistan. Guns and anmo were being funneled from Pakistan. Fighters would frequently cross in and out of Pakistan. The ISI/CIA continuously obfuscated DoD missions near the border to prevent an end to the taliban’s main artery.
          morons like you eat up the literal bullshit the CIA director (Pompeo) made up to justify forever wars that don’t serve US interests.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It's not trueeeeee!!!11
            Cope and seethe, Iranian bot.

            https://i.imgur.com/hljffXk.jpg

            That same war was fought with almost no support provided. The USSR and the Americans both supported Iraq, the latter very intentionally turning a blind eye to the use of the same chemical weapons and other WMDs whose presence they would cite as justification for invading. Perfectly acceptable in use, killing Iranian civilians and violating the Geneva convention against combatants. The embargo and petulant longstanding grudge against the Iranians for overthrowing a puppet regime is probably one of our greatest foreign policy failures. They have the greatest potential, both economically and as a regional power, at a critical bottleneck in the Eurasian landmass. Their demographics have currently peaked, in terms of productive potential. We wasted that. Swallowing our pride and finding the price for alliance would've paid much greater dividends than trying to cage them. If effecting democracy and opening their society to our economic actors were the goal, the carrot (in prosperity) would've eroded the Wilayet-e-fiqh much faster than stymying their entire society, a process on which their hardliners rely to gin up support. It's also another instance where it looks like our foreign policy is wholly derived from israeli demands. Is the American majority, almost all gentiles, comfortable with such a subordinate position? I'm not an isolationist, I believe in American Empire and think we have faltered in favour of parties like peninsular Arabs and israel. pic related, to address "saar" accusations

            >Just totally upend your regional security regime and throw away all political equity with all friendly ME states because a shithole country whose motto is "Death to America" and made destroying US influence a founding pillar of their fundamentalist ideology MIGHT be slightly more amenable to you in the future!
            >They totally won't shank you on the return!
            They would, but the juice wouldn't be worth the squeeze even if they didn't. Close relations with the Gulf, Jordan, Israel, and Egypt far outweigh Iran politically, economically, and militarily. Not to mention the reputational damage would be catastrophic.
            There's a much simpler alternative. How about Iran, their proxies, and anyone aligned with them get marginalized and/or bombed? We can start with asking Israel to kill more of the al-Qaeda leaders that Iran shelters.
            https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/world/middleeast/al-masri-abdullah-qaeda-dead.html

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You’ve provided zero evidence that
              1. Iran materially provided The Taliban (who consider Shias to be heretic infidels) with weapons or support
              2. That Al Qaeda, a sunni fundamentalist organization, is actually receiving major assistance from Iran
              Only an Israeli shill would try and make these connections, just like they did in 2003 to convince America to attack Iraq.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Black person he at least posted an article ypu literally said "google it" and posted a goddamn thesis about how everyone is secretly out to get the poor gays chanting "Death to America" who dindu nuffin

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He posted a bunch of MSM bullshit posts whose sole source is Mike Pompeo, which isn’t even based on intelligence, just his own personal opinion. War On The Rocks did a far better analysis on their relationship.
                https://warontherocks.com/2021/02/reconsidering-al-qaeda-iranian-cooperation/
                If you compare this to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the gulf states, Iran is not really a friend of The Taliban or Al Qaeda. In fact, in 1998 the Taliban fricking killed Iranian diplomats, which they never really forgave them for.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because modern electronics wouldn't last too long in some damp bunker in Siberia.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why can France make heavy tanks able to withstand heavy fire but not Germany, clearly this points to France winning in any fight.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Such a sexy thing.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm guess they getting the imaging from China. Until recently Russia would not have contemplated that level of foreign dependence in its weapons development.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Russia has been using counterfeit and smuggled electronics since always. Thermal cameras from France during the 1990s to 2014s. Alibaba EW and Baofengs from China.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because Iranians are Aryan and Russians are Mongols.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russia is literally a fallen empire with lostech. It can no longer develop anything new and even the old stuff can only be made in low numbers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It can no longer develop anything new

      Russian Federation literally developed hypersonic missile recently

      Russian Federation literally developed a functional MOX fuel reactor recently, you know exactly at the time when all the YT started b***hing about muh fusion breaktrough, that later turned out to not be a breaktrough, then a fluke, then a sensor defect, but allowed nobody to talk anything about the real MOX fuel breaktrough

      >It can no longer develop anything new

      Russian Federation literally developed hypersonic missile recently

      Russian Federation literally just tested a missile with nuclear engine, that can fly around for 100's of years

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        May i see it?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You cant see a hypersonic missile, moron. its per definition faster than what the human eye can see

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Russian Federation literally just tested a missile with nuclear engine, that can fly around for 100's of years
        >tested
        They didnt test shit, they partially assembled it and it leaked radiation to the point they had to abandon the site

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because if Iran releases it first and you b***h about it, like the nafo troon you are, then Russians """copy""" it, and you can't pin violation of non-proliferation of missile technologies on Russians

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    well the only managed to do that because they captured an intact israeli example

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does it matter ? Every western has already been taken out by Russian/Soviet ATGMs already ( some Leclercs were taken out on Yemen)
    Range and optics seem more important specially range

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why can iran make fire-and-forget anti-tank guided missile
    >https://twitter.com/i/status/1765458857076076837
    the video is fake as frick
    it's just propaganda filmed by a drone

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ????

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kornet is SACLOS
      silly westoid can't aim their missiless

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Shit you are right. Apparently there is a fire and forget version called the Kornet-EM thats in service since 2015, but that is only for vehicles for some reason?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M133M_Kornet-M

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > but that is only for vehicles for some reason?
          Many russian vehicles have "auto-tracker" I wouldn't be surprised if they simply are "auto-guiding" the missile with it, although in that case it wouldn't be a real FnF.

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