booby traps are a bad idea unless you know for sure that something is going to happen and you do not care about any repercussions.
if you're just going day-to-day, no, you do not want one, not only will you be fucked if found out but you can end up killing innocent people because when you set a trap meant to hurt things and then leave it alone for a while it is inevitably going to hurt things, probably things you don't want it to hurt.
you can also fuck yourself over really easily just by forgetting it exists for a few moments.
Judicial realism. People have dogs, people have always had dogs, people are always gonna have dogs. Dogs instinctually protect their territory and your property. If the gov't starts penalizing people for their dogs protecting their property, people would get real fucken upset about it real fucken quick. Plus most dogs can be trained, whereas booby traps maim and kill indescriminately
Also what said.
Your dog attacking someone is more preferable to booby trapping your property. Difference being is you can just put down the dog, pay a fine, and be done. As compared to sitting in court and prison for years because it has been established that, legally, you can't booby trap your property. No matter the circumstances.
Children are scared of scarey dogs. The legal reason you can't booby trap your property is because dumb fucking children(all children) can wander in and get murdered for normal children's behavior. If you read the US's legal stuff around the case that basically put it in stone, it involved children getting shot.
You dog will in theory respond to commands so you can train it to not attack certain people. Booby trap will go off regardless >t.grandad trained guard dogs and police dogs
People can’t tell a booby trap is there and it’ll kill anyone. You’ll probably notice a dog coming and it might choose not to bite or attack. For what it’s worth you can still get in trouble for dogs even if you’re completely in the right.
Legal doublethink regarding dogs.
They fall in-between categories "owner controls them it's his responsibility" and "dog has it own mind and responsible for its actions" (but you can't prosecute a dog).
Pitbull owners would try to defend this.
Because:
- A booby trap by definition is invisible/hard to see and a dog is not, it will also most likely make its presence known
- A dog is a pet/tool first and a security system second
- The dog can listen to the owner
- The dog can be caught/disabled
- The dog does not fucking explode (in theory) and will only bite or drag
- Its generally known the house has a dog because you need to walk it
- When the plumber comes in to do construction its quite nice to be able to work without being gored by a trap the basement dwelling owner "forgot" before he called
- When the dog owner moves out the dog goes along and the elderly couple that moves in doesn't get deleted out of existence by Bubba's finest pipe bomb
- A drunk dude stumbling through your hedge will probably run from a dog and you won't have to scrape him off your porch for the next 2 weeks
- naggers don't care about booby traps and don't even acknowlegde their existence if you trained them to >Muh rights
Pick up a gun and have a nice day
>The dog does not fucking explode (in theory)
Would it be illegal to stick a proxy sensor on a dog linked to a granade so that if the dog attacks someone it will also explode?
Either the dog is badly trained, or the kid has done something to it and it decided to revenge.
Either way it's on the parent and the owner
>Either the dog is badly trained, or the kid has done something to it and it decided to revenge. >Either way it's on the parent and the owner
Pitbull pawns tiped this
Dog is >loud >scary >trainable >neutralizable >intended to keep people off the property for fear of dog
Booby traps are >terrifying >hidden >unseen >unknown >hard to neutralize >intended to kill and maim people who get on to property, not knowing the danger they put themselves in
Yeah wonder why
>Either the dog is badly trained, or the kid has done something to it and it decided to revenge.
Idiots truly believe this.
Imagine, if you will, a CARNIVORA with a mouth capable of tearing limbs from body with easy, but NOOOO that animal can't possibly ever have the instinct to attack a target that 100% fits its prey definition (toddlers are prey to anything and everything. A toddler falls into a duck pond its duck food).
Because the government hates you and has nothing but the utmost contempt for your property rights.
inb4 "muh lost hikers" no one breaking into your car or your suburban house is lost in the woods, they're just an opportunistic scumbag trying to deprive you of the fruits of your labor so that they can buy another bag of smack
If guard dogs are the only real "legal" way for automatic limb removal of home invaders, what mutt breed is best for the job? I am not talking about breeds which look scary or are large enough to act as deterrence but I mean which one would be the most effective in injuring/killing strangers that trespass their space. I.e which dog breed is mechanically and psychologically the most effective at injury/death, I don't care if a Doberman is intimidating if a Labrador hypothetically more lethal for instance.
Than rottweiler, but damage capacity for non pitbull breeds falls off astronomically (not because pits are super strong but because of their aggressive psyche that makes them maul victims without backing off)
>Why can I have a guard dog that might maim or kill intruders,
Begging the question. You can't. Intentionally training a dog to kill intruders and then leaving them in an unoccupied property so as to kill any potential trespassers is legally the same as boobytrapping a property. You cannot use lethal force to defend unoccupied property >but then how do people have guard dogs
Most guard dogs aren't explicitly trained to kill. If you actually intentionally trained a dog to kill intruders and then it mauled an intruder to death and it was discovered you trained it to do that you could be held criminally culpable and civilly liable.
>Most guard dogs aren't explicitly trained to kill. If you actually intentionally trained a dog to kill intruders and then it mauled an intruder to death and it was discovered you trained it to do that you could be held criminally culpable and civilly liable.
Yeah, but practically not possible to investigate and prove (unless you are completely stupid and post dummy training of your pit on Instagram)
Dogo is just helping its owner to not be treaded upon, he defends his borders and property and does so honorably. He does other things too, but that’s part of his MO.
A boobytrap does nothing but demonstrate the premeditated intent to maime and murder while being too cowardly and derelict of duty to be there yourself to make sure its done and done right, with a proper steady hand and discriminate manner.
If you own a dog and think of it as nothing other than a scarecrow or prop device you should be lynched and deported in that order:
Do the needful, sir.
>Throw a party >Choke on food and can't speak >Guests call emergency services >The emergency services are now on wave 3 trying to save your life.
Also dogs are a deterrent since they are visible. Now if you just put a trap in the open loony toons style maybe you wouldn't get in trouble.
>Now if you just put a trap in the open loony toons style maybe you wouldn't get in trouble.
So you're saying that littering my lawn with massive bear traps placed in plain view might be legal?
Because a 12g shell, 3 inches of PVC, a mouse trap and a soldered on broke nail angled upwards will out a fed out of the fight and 100+ could be put on your property for less than 2.83 usd each.
>I can't booby trap my property?
The only thing stopping you is yourself OP
The implied word was "legally"
>The implied word was "legally"
If you are being raided by anyone, then "legal" has already been thrown out the window. Don't be a cuck. Fuck it.
booby traps are a bad idea unless you know for sure that something is going to happen and you do not care about any repercussions.
if you're just going day-to-day, no, you do not want one, not only will you be fucked if found out but you can end up killing innocent people because when you set a trap meant to hurt things and then leave it alone for a while it is inevitably going to hurt things, probably things you don't want it to hurt.
you can also fuck yourself over really easily just by forgetting it exists for a few moments.
For sure, but there are always risks in life.
Where was this from?
my money is on Brazil or Mexico
DEFENSE FORCE.
Mexico.
Criminal leaked gas and goea boom.
Glorious
The ATF can shoot a dog, but they can't shoot a booby trap.
Judicial realism. People have dogs, people have always had dogs, people are always gonna have dogs. Dogs instinctually protect their territory and your property. If the gov't starts penalizing people for their dogs protecting their property, people would get real fucken upset about it real fucken quick. Plus most dogs can be trained, whereas booby traps maim and kill indescriminately
Also what said.
>dogstuffedwithtanneriteanddrywallnails.jpg
Your dog attacking someone is more preferable to booby trapping your property. Difference being is you can just put down the dog, pay a fine, and be done. As compared to sitting in court and prison for years because it has been established that, legally, you can't booby trap your property. No matter the circumstances.
Because the police/feds can shoot a guard dog.
Children are scared of scarey dogs. The legal reason you can't booby trap your property is because dumb fucking children(all children) can wander in and get murdered for normal children's behavior. If you read the US's legal stuff around the case that basically put it in stone, it involved children getting shot.
No it didn't. It was some guy sneaking into an abandoned farm house in Iowa.
You dog will in theory respond to commands so you can train it to not attack certain people. Booby trap will go off regardless
>t.grandad trained guard dogs and police dogs
Can't issue commands if you're not present
People can’t tell a booby trap is there and it’ll kill anyone. You’ll probably notice a dog coming and it might choose not to bite or attack. For what it’s worth you can still get in trouble for dogs even if you’re completely in the right.
Legal doublethink regarding dogs.
They fall in-between categories "owner controls them it's his responsibility" and "dog has it own mind and responsible for its actions" (but you can't prosecute a dog).
Pitbull owners would try to defend this.
Dogs make themselves known.
Because:
- A booby trap by definition is invisible/hard to see and a dog is not, it will also most likely make its presence known
- A dog is a pet/tool first and a security system second
- The dog can listen to the owner
- The dog can be caught/disabled
- The dog does not fucking explode (in theory) and will only bite or drag
- Its generally known the house has a dog because you need to walk it
- When the plumber comes in to do construction its quite nice to be able to work without being gored by a trap the basement dwelling owner "forgot" before he called
- When the dog owner moves out the dog goes along and the elderly couple that moves in doesn't get deleted out of existence by Bubba's finest pipe bomb
- A drunk dude stumbling through your hedge will probably run from a dog and you won't have to scrape him off your porch for the next 2 weeks
- naggers don't care about booby traps and don't even acknowlegde their existence if you trained them to
>Muh rights
Pick up a gun and have a nice day
>The dog does not fucking explode (in theory)
Would it be illegal to stick a proxy sensor on a dog linked to a granade so that if the dog attacks someone it will also explode?
>Either the dog is badly trained, or the kid has done something to it and it decided to revenge.
>Either way it's on the parent and the owner
Pitbull pawns tiped this
Dog is
>loud
>scary
>trainable
>neutralizable
>intended to keep people off the property for fear of dog
Booby traps are
>terrifying
>hidden
>unseen
>unknown
>hard to neutralize
>intended to kill and maim people who get on to property, not knowing the danger they put themselves in
Yeah wonder why
Yes, but...
Booby traps can't run under the fence and grab toddler from the plot across the street.
Either the dog is badly trained, or the kid has done something to it and it decided to revenge.
Either way it's on the parent and the owner
post tits
>Either the dog is badly trained, or the kid has done something to it and it decided to revenge.
Idiots truly believe this.
Imagine, if you will, a CARNIVORA with a mouth capable of tearing limbs from body with easy, but NOOOO that animal can't possibly ever have the instinct to attack a target that 100% fits its prey definition (toddlers are prey to anything and everything. A toddler falls into a duck pond its duck food).
Predatory carnivorous mammal.
Because the government hates you and has nothing but the utmost contempt for your property rights.
inb4 "muh lost hikers" no one breaking into your car or your suburban house is lost in the woods, they're just an opportunistic scumbag trying to deprive you of the fruits of your labor so that they can buy another bag of smack
youre still responsible for your pet's actions.
Said no dog owner ever.
If guard dogs are the only real "legal" way for automatic limb removal of home invaders, what mutt breed is best for the job? I am not talking about breeds which look scary or are large enough to act as deterrence but I mean which one would be the most effective in injuring/killing strangers that trespass their space. I.e which dog breed is mechanically and psychologically the most effective at injury/death, I don't care if a Doberman is intimidating if a Labrador hypothetically more lethal for instance.
Pitbulls, obviously.
I think anon wants something that wont see him as intruder too
Than rottweiler, but damage capacity for non pitbull breeds falls off astronomically (not because pits are super strong but because of their aggressive psyche that makes them maul victims without backing off)
Shitbulls. Why do you think everyone in the ghetto has them?
>mechanically the most effective
Rottweiler.
>psychologically the most effective
Doberman
>Why can I have a guard dog that might maim or kill intruders,
Begging the question. You can't. Intentionally training a dog to kill intruders and then leaving them in an unoccupied property so as to kill any potential trespassers is legally the same as boobytrapping a property. You cannot use lethal force to defend unoccupied property
>but then how do people have guard dogs
Most guard dogs aren't explicitly trained to kill. If you actually intentionally trained a dog to kill intruders and then it mauled an intruder to death and it was discovered you trained it to do that you could be held criminally culpable and civilly liable.
>Most guard dogs aren't explicitly trained to kill. If you actually intentionally trained a dog to kill intruders and then it mauled an intruder to death and it was discovered you trained it to do that you could be held criminally culpable and civilly liable.
Yeah, but practically not possible to investigate and prove (unless you are completely stupid and post dummy training of your pit on Instagram)
Dogo is just helping its owner to not be treaded upon, he defends his borders and property and does so honorably. He does other things too, but that’s part of his MO.
A boobytrap does nothing but demonstrate the premeditated intent to maime and murder while being too cowardly and derelict of duty to be there yourself to make sure its done and done right, with a proper steady hand and discriminate manner.
If you own a dog and think of it as nothing other than a scarecrow or prop device you should be lynched and deported in that order:
Do the needful, sir.
Training your dog specifically to injure people will get you into a lot of legal trouble.
You can have a dog. You can have a guard dog. You can't have a mauler that tears people's throats out.
kek
all dobermans, rottweilers, and german shepherds are booby dogs now
>nonsense slide spam
What did Russia got embarrassed today?
>but I can't booby trap my property?
Only the government says you cannot, because they want to raid you without their goons getting hurt.
>Throw a party
>Choke on food and can't speak
>Guests call emergency services
>The emergency services are now on wave 3 trying to save your life.
Also dogs are a deterrent since they are visible. Now if you just put a trap in the open loony toons style maybe you wouldn't get in trouble.
>Now if you just put a trap in the open loony toons style maybe you wouldn't get in trouble.
So you're saying that littering my lawn with massive bear traps placed in plain view might be legal?
Because a 12g shell, 3 inches of PVC, a mouse trap and a soldered on broke nail angled upwards will out a fed out of the fight and 100+ could be put on your property for less than 2.83 usd each.
Why would you want to do that, you mentally ill fuck?!