Why aren't WW1 tactics being revisited?

With the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, it's surprising to see a lack of discussion about utilizing tactics from WW1 stormtroopers. These tactics were revolutionary for their time, focusing on infiltration, shock, and rapid advancement. Considering the urban and guerrilla nature of the conflict in Ukraine, wouldn't it make sense to study and potentially adapt these tactics for modern warfare?

Like have squads of guys equipped with light equipment and a carbine or something, then have them carry sacks full of frags to just shock and awe their way through trenchlines. You could have them advance under drone and artillery fire or at night using night vision.

Has anyone tried? Is it not viable?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Like have squads of guys equipped with light equipment and a carbine or something, then have them carry sacks full of frags to just shock and awe their way through trenchlines. You could have them advance under drone and artillery fire or at night using night vision.
    More or less what they’re already doing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tge7YMi4gJs

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't consistency concentrate forces due to constant surveillance and artillery capable of reaching any part of the theater.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've seen few sparse videos of Ukie soldiers doing that by storming trenches but those mostly were SOF operators doing small scale trench rushes in first year of war

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What type of sack would they use?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Something like what this young Kraut is wearing. Preferably you would have a velcro flap to keep them from spilling out. As for their weapon, I’d suggest something like a krink or a MK18 with two or three mags. I’d give them bolt cutters two in case they run into wire or a locked door/container.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wouldn't SMGs be ideal for this kind of role? Preferably with a larger caliber than 9mm. Or are ziggers finally getting proper body armor again?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Or are ziggers finally getting proper body armor again?
          It varies from unit to unit it seems. But I’d rather the Ukranian guys have a caliber capable of defeating armor just in case. Besides I don't know what modern submachine guns they have that they could issue out and keep fed.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Like others have said they are already deeply embedded into modern war fighting but equally they have been superseded. In Russia-Ukraine's case they've been fighting this kind of war with artillery duels and biting and holding slips of territory since at least 2014 so they're very experienced at these kind of small-unit-with-heavy-support-mass engagements which Russia specialised in around the time of its Syria intervention. In fact I distinctly remember a US assessment of Russian doctrine noting how it was doomed to failure in any prolonged engagement because the units Russia was creating had too much logistical weight for long-term engagements.

        Anyway what broke the WWI stalemate wasn't stormtroopers but the Entente and interwar development of combined arms with neither Russia nor Ukrainian being able to deploy the surgical artillery and air superiority to make that the new reality.

        That's really what Ukraine needed a year ago and what it was going for - a 100 day offensive to break the back of the Russian military. It's also why if Ukraine had run out of mid-altitude AD the front would collapse.

        >Like have squads of guys equipped with light equipment and a carbine or something, then have them carry sacks full of frags to just shock and awe their way through trenchlines. You could have them advance under drone and artillery fire or at night using night vision.

        Already exists. And by some negative reports of Ukrainian tactics also exhausting your best men - something even the Roman's learned in how to deploy their triarii.

        >Preferably you would have a velcro flap to keep them from spilling out

        Not if you're doing night infiltration you won't.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We have multiple hi-rez drone videos of this exact thing.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    overall i think gas should make a comeback in the way that bruchmuller did in 1918, ziggers already use chemical weapons so who cares but Ukrainians would need to mass issue good gas masks and filters

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are parts of WW1 battlefields that are still off limits to the public because they're still toxic to this day.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There are parts of battlefields off limits because they're covered in land mines

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based. Can't lose land to the enemy if it's inhospitable.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have the feeling that the stalemate on the front is much more a strategic problem than a tactical one

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They already do, the tactics used by stormtroopers are now part of the tactical repertoire available to modern infantry and it gets used all the time, we even have actual drone videos of it.
    Think of war line any other science that gets knowledge added to it, we still use ww2 tactics like mobile defense and others.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are being used. Another example beside those already mentioned is the use of tunnels in Avdeevka

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Night raids worked in WW1 because nobody had night vision. These days there are too many ways to spot someone moving in the dark.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Night raids worked in WW1 because nobody had night vision
      Orcs don't get night vision

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    USE YOUR BRAIN PLEAAASE

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