why are US military MREs so crude compared to what European militaries provide their troops?
why are US military MREs so crude compared to what European militaries provide their troops?
why are US military MREs so crude compared to what European militaries provide their troops?
Because euro militaries are not fighting forces.
France and England regularly deploy and fight
The last time the french and english attempted to do foreign policy on their own was the Suez Circus.
We, the US will not allow our pets outside by themselves.
Nah. France is always doing stuff. One of the highest operational tempos out of any military. They’re constantly doing stuff in Africa and South East Asia. The French military does a lot of the kind of shit the US marine corps used to do before WWII. Bush wars for French political and corporate reasons.
I completely forgot that Vietnam was under French rule and they got btfo by the communists. This makes me think less of the frog military even more.
>We, the US
>t. larping turdworlder
he doesn’t know
the falklands was a barely eeked out victory.
You sound like a retard
England in Iraq and Afghanistan
France in Afghanistan and Operation Serval
If you're using American logistics, (you) aren't doing it.
Shhh. They think they won both world wars without our logistics.
Britain has its own logistics lol
Stop overestimating your importance dumb mutt
> he says, as the United Kingdom flies thousands of tons of goods daily through American bases in Kuwait, with American aircraft and maintainers helping in Jordan
They didn't, retard
France does shit all the time in Africa because ex-colonies, like in Mali.
thats cool but why don't you compare the size armed forced to the United States? those 30k are nothing compared to the 1.18 million of the US.
NTA, but you're off by an order of magnitude
Combined, the French and English are a complete fighting force about a third the strength of the USA, that is why the three of them co-operate very closely together: not having to bother (as much) with Europe frees up one third of the US military for the Pacific Pivot
>not having to bother with Europe
have you been in a coma for the past year? the past 20 years?
the US has been telling euros to improve their military capabilities for fucking decades and were clowned on nonstop by euros wanting to leech off of the US.
even now with a war on european soil, the US has to micromanage everyone. How have the french or english stepped up at all? and everyone knows that it's not going to happen, but in the small case that the US stops supporting ukraine, euros will start crying for daddy US to do more.
we are not even close to the US "not having to bother with europe". not remotely
see
>(as much)
trust me, all parties could've been way more ornery and all would suffer as a result
the current shitfest is only a semi-shitfest thanks to a lot of cooperation
the biggest example: QE, POW and CdG will provide the EU area with an enduring carrier presence so the US will free up 3 carriers right there. and with UK hounding the Continentals for NATO EFP the US only needs to forward-base 1 division instead of 2 or 3
Wasn't that thing withdrawn from US MREs, but some European country retained them? I think it was Norway.
What kind of retarded logic is that? If the US military is somehow more of a fighting force than European militaries, shouldn't they have better rations too? If you're constantly playing war, you'll want good, nutritious food that doesn't fuck with your digestive system.
Fuck no, that’s still a menu item
t. US soldier that just got back from a long ass field problem
I'm just basing it on what Steve may or may not have mentioned in his videos. From what I recall, he had a Norwegian ration with the American pizza in it, and I think he claimed that it was no longer part of American MREs.
the thing is, good, nutritious food =/= shelfstable food, its just one part of equation, the same reason why you dont see milk in MRE's
the reason why anon made that correlation is
>European don't fight (often)
>no experience in protracted combat far away from base and supplies for days at a time
>no real neccesity, thus experience making logistically viable MRE since they are always near home
>that is to say, their MRE are not designed for a scenario where soldiers may have to go fight in bumfuck nowhere at a moments notice, without onsite cooking
>for the US, if they copied the EU, sudden war means no time to ramp up production of MRE for millions of soldiers, hence the long shelf life, stockpiling dozens millions of the thing to be dispersed as needed, bulky boxes and cans take up valuable space in packs and planes = less efficient for transport and logistics
>and so the EU militaries, with their situation, are okay with bulky MRE with a 3 year expiration date
>anon states that this disrepancy is why its not good to compare US MREs with EU MREs, they are not a good comparison
as for food tastes, the US learned that, having okay food going into your stomach is better than zero cuisine tier food when you're away from base, in any case, for morale purposes MRE menu are close enough to food at home that, in conjunction with sweets like candy, chocolate, coffee and shit, the average MRE is perfectly good enough to keep your guy happy, stores for a decade (or two), and be small enough to pack 3-4 of them in your pack without much trouble.
Sure.
I'm Norwegian. My country is a tiny, somewhat irrelevant country at the ass end of northern Europe. Most people probably just associate us with vikings, fjords, fish, oil, shipping, hydro power and fair-haired, blue-eyed people, and that's that. We don't have the population necessary to provide the vast, mostly degenerate, opportunities that a powerhouse like the US can provide. What we do have, though, is an autistic dedication to quality and standards that put most other countries to shame, for better or worse, simply based on the fact that we're a small, absurdly wealthy country with a high level of trust and a pathological dedication to perfection, something that is clearly influenced by the weird Napoleon complex that we've developed due to our tiny size and our desire to be relevant.
The few industries that we do have are generally very highly regulated and of very high quality, and that also goes for our military, whether it's the people serving, our military industry (buy our Naval Strike Missiles, you American fucks), or the MREs we provide for our troops.
So... uh, that's my presentation that has almost nothing to do with the topic we're discussing.
Thank you for your time.
When I was a little kid, my older sister's friend was from Norway and she had a bunch of weird Norwegian candy and shit like giant pencils. Shortly after, I read the Roald Dahl book the Witches, where it says that Norway is the most witch infested country on the planet.
So until somebody proves otherwise, I will assume that Norway is nothing but beautiful redheads, witches, and weird foods/animals.
Vikings regarded Saami was witches.
I figure now, Nigeria and Haiti probably have the most witches.
t. increasingly nervous witch
The Sami confuse me. I think they've been mixed so much that they're no longer recognizable as a race. Some of them look more Norwegian than Norwegians themselves, while others look like mongols. Most just look like Swedes though. White, but with those shitty Asian eyes.
>Roald Dahl
>The Witches
Those British gays stole him from us. He's Norwegian, not British.
Also, the early parts of that 1990 The Witches movie was filmed around here somewhere, and they used local actors. It was kinda fun hearing the local dialect in a movie like that.
Anyway, buy our missiles. They'll kill what ails ya.
>beautiful redheads
We do have some of them, but they're not that common. Growing up, our neighbors had two red headed daughters, freckles and all and quite cute, but like I said, red hair is not that common. Most people here are blonde, dirty blonde or brown haired.
I think the red haired individuals in Norway are descended from the thralls we brought over from the British isles, because it doesn't seem like a native trait.
>NSM
I think we are buying them or have bought them. I’m not a naval autist but I’m nearly certain we’re a customer.
You do buy them, and the JSM was specifically designed to fit into the F-35's internal bay. Still, buy more. Hell, you can put them on older jets as well, so buy some and stick 'em on some Ukrainian jets. It would be fun to see them in action.
>the virgin NSM vs the chad JASSM-ER
It's called LRASM, bud.
>Most people probably just associate us with vikings, fjords, fish, oil, shipping, hydro power and fair-haired, blue-eyed people, and that's that.
And church burnings, can't forget the church burnings!
NORSK ARYSK SVARTAMETALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Cute!
>Norway
>one of the highest GDP per capita countries on the planet
>irrelevant, tiny
>uh duhh cringe we're better because Q/C but completely ignoring the points regarding logistics and storages posted earlier in the thread
dilate+US colony
>not being nostalgic over that shitty cafeteria pizza from school
ngl i missed that shit
7-11/gas station pizza scratches that itch for me
>T. garden gnome yorker
For me, it was the stromboli. Cheesy delicious goodness, and something the lunch ladies actually made from scratch.
Same
Mre pizza tastes nothing like that. It’s like the shittiest microwave pizza imaginable - even worse than Totinos. This thread is dildos from the start since the Us doesn’t use the pizza main anymore, but several euro countries do.
I unironically loved the burgers (yes, Europeans, they unironically served middle schoolers burgers). I used to grab the Hispanicy chicken ones and coat the patty with ketchup. Goddamn, those were sweet times
They aren't. US MREs shit on Euro ones, having had both on ops. Euro ones have loads of low quality gimicks that aren't very good or convenient to eat. The taste and convenience of US MREs shits on basically everyone else's. Probably only Australia comes close, with rations that are tastier and probably better for you, but generally less convenient and only in 24h packs, not meal packs.
>vomlet vs traditional stews just like nonna use to make
The vomlet was removed in 2009. It was only even in the system for 5 years. Those stews mostly fucking suck by the way.
>cassoulet fucking suck
you wut m8
>talking about MREs
>posts home-cooked meal
That's like if I vouched for the pizza MRE and posted a picture of a high-class pie.
Steve:
Heard the Italian ones were pretty decent.
they come with wine
Nope
How was UK's?
One would think they actually cleave closer to the US ones due to culture and doctrine
A lot of the UK ones are made by some of the same companies, lots of the meals are meat, rice, potatoes and sauce etc.
The Thai chicken ones were pretty damn good.
>only in 24h packs
As an MRE should be, you idiot
More bulky that way. Individual meals are easier to pack. It also gives you have the flexibility to choose what you eat (freedom is a challenging concept to the europoor).
>soldier slop
>freedom
Bwahahaha
>More bulky that way
Same volume and weight.
>It also gives you have the flexibility to choose what you eat
The opposite of what a specific diet for a person doing a specific job is....
Think quick, anon. Do you want to try to pack a 10 lbs of Legos as individual bricks or as a complete project? They're the same weight, and technically the complete project is less volume because you have the tops projecting into the open space of the bottom.
A US MRE would be 1lb of lard to fulfill the calorie requirement, and a Hershey's bar to cover the taste of vomit with a sweeter, more chocolatey taste of vomit.
And you get to wash it all down with artificial, fizzy tropical juice in the form of a pill that you plop into some muddy water. Mmmm.
Now go back to Russia, you retarded gay.
>American food
AHAHAHAHAHAH
>t.seething limey
I dunno man I traded my pizza MRE for a French one and honestly it's a better bang-for buck. It feeds you for 24 hours as opposed to 1 mre being good for maybe half a day in terms of caloric content and only weighs a bit more unless you field strip the MRE. The french one even came with a little ration of rum. Murrican MREs kinda suck dick in comparison.
>a French one
>it comes with rum
>and a little white flag
see
>Because euro militaries are not fighting forces.
you just confirmed that the french don't actually fight.
Ok, vatmoron.
>anon points out that the indisputable fact that the french have a history of surrendering and not fighting in wars
>Ok, vatmoron.
is the vatmoron in the room with you right now, anon?
can you see the vatmoron right now anon, or can you just hear the vatmoron talking inside of your head?
what is the vatmoron in your head saying to you right now, anon?
it's okay, anon, the vatmorons can't hurt you anymore. The vatmoron isn't real, anon. Ukraine is a fake country that was taken over by a gnomish reality TV star Russia is fighting on the right side of history. Not herstory, anon, you will never be a real woman.
So you're a vatmoron, a redditor and you abide by American pop cultural depictions of the French.
What, did your constant falseflagging scramble your excuse for a brain so much you don't even know who you're larping as anymore?
>REEEEEE
>OMG
>YOU'RE LITERALLY EVERYTHING I HATE
lmfao. are you going to be okay?
Is there a reason you gays always act like obnoxious teenagers?
>you gays
what gays, anon? anyone who disagrees with your delusional view of the world?
pathetic midwit.
>what gays, anon?
gays like you, who simply lie to yourselves and claim something is propaganda if you don't agree with it. You act like easily manipulated, hysterical idiots who think that repeating meme phrases and acting like a hyperactive child means you're "owning" the people you disagree with.
You gays also add lmao or kek to half of your sentences, to show how edgy and unbothered you pretend to be, despite seething so much that you can barely refrain from pissing yourselves.
I'd call you a streetshitter, but I think you're just a streetshitter's unwitting puppet. I don't know how far down the hierarchy that puts you, but it's pretty damn close to the bottom.
>i would call you a street shitter
>but i'm a streetshitter
>so you're something bellow a streetshitter
poetry from a street shitter shitting in streets
>no u
Every time.
Literally the diametric reverse of the case. I can get a dozen or more US MREs for a single UK rat. Every single day. And most of the time, it's not worth it.
/k/opers are willing to pay 50 dollars for these
>meanwhile ziggers disarm Russia by slurping up all the Russian milsurp
Guess who is laughing
WDYM? MRE is 10€ tops, you just need to wait for joint exercises to saturate the market.
Money
Steve said our rations were good. Checkmate rest of the planet
Your rations are made in Australia, oh gay state that forgot to federate and is now cucked by commies.
>https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/new-zealandbased-business-awarded-200-million-australian-defence-force-contract-for-new-diverse-combat-ration-packs/news-story/5b7974a472301c3e8d8850e1bd953ce5
Nice try homo, but all of the stuff in the NZ rations is off the shelf NZ products
Because Chinese MRE's blow literally everything out of the park, it's not even a competition.
Steves was rancid
>literally put one of the most resillient man on the MRE planet on a bed
based chinks promoting local procurement logisitcs and rigging "supplies" with poison to kill the enemies
Makes the guy who has eaten boer war tinned beef, and regularly eats rancid items from the 40s incredibly sick.
>not even a competition
>Talk to early boomer dad about Steve1989's multiple instances of severe illness from Chinese rations
>Dad says that could be intentional, with them being laden with certain pathogens that the Chinese populace are all accustomed to, and this serves to deny their enemies the chance to use their food supplies.
>Tell him I don't think they'd be able to get the rations to last long that way, they should be disinfected via heat, moisture, pressure, etc. like any canned food.
What does everyone think of this theory?
Could their food contain spores or something of a pathogen that only causes acceptable or limited degradation of their food items, and still retains potency to cause illness in non-chinks?
No, he's just a retard. Bacteria consume the energy from the food in the process of rotting it.
That was my thought, but at the same time though, botulism spores can show up in low-acid canned goods, and they don't always obviously consume/ferment the food.
>ration a year old
>pork is green
If that theory were true I think that it would be even more depressing than the reality of them just being shit at making rations. It would imply that a good chunk of their population is accustomed to eating visibly rotten meat on a regular basis. Plus the most common rebuttal given for the bad rations is "well they specialize in having mobile kitchens for their unit so the rations are an ultimate last resort".
>It would imply that a good chunk of their population is accustomed to eating visibly rotten meat on a regular basis
I hate the PRC more than any of you do, but this is the worst armchair theorising possible. Just go to a fucking Chinese supermarket instead of trying to generalise the dietary habits of 1.5 billion people from one (1) sodding MRE
>just being shit at making rations
this is probable though it's not indicative of their industrial capability - there are plenty of Chinese canned foods in stores in just about any country, except maybe Iceland and suchlike
they just fucking jobbed it because who needs MREs anyway
I'm defending them with that comment though, I am pretty sure they aren't all eating rotten pork and just used to it. My point was one of which is more likely, bad production of the rations or general bad food nationwide. Remember this was in response to the idea that they specifically introduced items to make the rations a detriment to enemy forces.
Why do you need MRE's in China when you have cup noodles?
This anon knows what’s up. Chinese have perfected quantum technology. Their rations are smaller, more energy dense, more nutritious, and more tasty than any ration in the world. Chinese quantum rations are a game changer. Muttoids will cope and seethe when their diversity squad infantry battalions are completely exhausted and worn down from inadequate food, low supplies of aids medication, and delays on estrogen shipments. PLA infantry will run circles around fat unhealthy Americans who are too busy making chudshine or having aids shits to do anything. That’s the power of PLA Quantum Rations.
I am from Texas Administrative Province and can confirm. Chinese rations will provide nourishment for the soldier's entire life, unlike goyslop US rations.
Much oblongated, I am very demoralised
>Man with iron stomach gets botulism when eating one
>nourishment for the soldier's entire life
>Implessive
>chudshine
yes anon they blow everything out of the park because they make you bend over and shit liquid diarrea at terminal velocity.
These bait posts are becoming outrageous.
>Steve has only ever gotten sick from PLA rations.
And a ching chong to you to Cyber Warrior Chang.
With botulism and salmonella.
Because americans are fat flabby mongrels with their taste buds fried from a lifelong diet of finger foods and fizzy drinks. They eat literal garbage and they're too spineless to complain about it.
that doesnt make sense but go off
The fuck are you talking about? Which European militaries? Because from the ones I've seen, the US ones are better in every metric except price.
Pretty sure it's because american cuisine, besides like pit-bbq and stuff like that, sucks balls compared to euro food in general. It's not just the recipes but also a general lower quality of ingredients available. That's not saying americans are completely incapable of cooking food, but the general state as a whole is much worse, and it makes sense this would be reflected in the MRE's as well
That's a pretty cherrypicked $3 plate Mexican hole in the wall. There's some excellent Mexican fare in the southwest. Don't shit on the Latinos like that
>That's a pretty cherrypicked $3 plate Mexican hole in the wall
How many do I have to post before it stops being cherry picking? Putting fast food chains and high-end inner city restaurants aside, most places serve watery and cheap-looking food from what I can tell (and what I experienced the few times I've been over)
You're posting tex-mex, of course it's fucking cheap. Your first one looked pretty good though, you can't really make refried beans photogenic.
You can post as many as you want, just like everyone knows european food looks like warm shit.
Now beg for welfare money from the US government, Right before you beg for our military protection. Weaklings.
Post gun and melanin count. I want to know your brownoid percentage.
>Right before you beg for our military protection
Keep paying my nato tab, importing the third world isn't free you know =)
spoken like a man who cant get carne seca chimichangas.
>posts literal mexican peasant laborer food
>complains it's not food fit for the taste of the high class
I thought euros where supposed to be smart and not retarded????????????
>Excluding good restaurants, the US doesn't have good restaurants
>the entire USA is one homogeneous entity as depicted on social media and foreign propaganda
>not like my hecking china which is a multicultural beacon of stability and progress
>stop paying attention to israel what are you some kind of antisemite
Take your meds
>who simply lie to yourselves and claim something is propaganda if you don't agree with it
that's literally you right now, retard, you are lashing out at anyone who disagrees with your extremely narrow worldview and calling random people vatmorons and gays.
Grow up and stop projecting so hard, retard.
Meds, now.
Yes, anon, I could take medication if I needed it to heal, but you can yell, you can scream, you can seethe, and you can project all day but you can never change your gender or the color of your skin.
lol. lmao even.
>no u
Yeah, that's par for the course, isn't it?
You dumb little gay.
What the hell are you even talking about? China's an absolute shithole, and Israel's relationship with America is parasitic. I don't particularly dislike the US despite the fact that they're incredibly self-destructive, and I hope they can crawl out of the grave that they're so adamantly digging for themselves, so I have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
My initial post simply pointed out that the idiot I was talking to was acting like a retarded caricature of an American, with the goal of creating division and make people attack America, which is a common strategy used by vatmorons, commie chinks and fifth columnists. If you're not any of the latter, maybe you're just a fucking idiot who's a discredit to your country.
Are the powers that be genuinely just stupid instead of malicious? I understand why they'd want the populace dumb and fat but why would they feed goyslop to their own ZOGbots who are literally needed to protect them and enforce their profits? The only explanation is that they are actually just ignorant about how nutrition and energy works.
>The only explanation is that they are actually just ignorant about how nutrition and energy works.
Irony if there ever was any.
Why is there a French translation? Who else is going to use the MREs of the US? Canada?
French is the second most spoken and known language after English, a lot of emergency and government shit has French backup instructions
>Why is there a French translation?
>English and French shall be the official languages for the entire North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
https://www.nato.int/docu/comm/49-95/c490917a.htm
I'm French and I wasn't even aware of that, merci anon
French seething so hard they got their irrelevant language put into NATO charter.
Lmao.
Can they stop using the same fucking tomato sauce in every entree? It has a gritty texture and makes every meal taste the same.
No they literally can’t. Tomato sauce is one of the hardest things to stabilize over time. The sauce in MREs isn’t anything like normal tomato sauce.
Imagine being this unaware of how large the United States is. There may be 4 Mexican restaurants in your city, maybe 100 in your country. There are literally thousands of restaurants belonging to one cuisine in a single state usually. This ranges from extremely cheap lunch food like you’re picturing, or Michelin Star restaurants which you have left out.
You also act like no one has lived in both places, arguing that Americans simply have no access to “good ingredients” is retarded.
>is retarded
But anon, he's a pathetic foreigner, so it follows that he's retarded and doesn't know anything.
>or Michelin Star restaurants which you have left out
No I addressed them, maybe you didn't pay attention. And this is now the third state I've searched on google and still I'm coming up with the same crap as before. Just for fun I tried the same in france, and even though quite a lot is arab cooking and shit like that, it's still way more presentable and looks to be of higher grade. I'm not making scientific claims here, I'm making a casual observation
>it's Hispanic food
First anon was talking about good Hispanic food specifically in the south-west so that's what I'm looking at. I'm deliberately leaving out the state capitals since I feel that would be less representative of the entire state
low-cost tex mex places use the same ingredients across the board. same with chinese restaurants.
>b-b-b-ut i can find pictures on google i dont like!
We get it sperg, it's just not the point you think it is, retard. lmfao Go eat sheep intestines filled with minced guts and call it cuisine you filthy europoor. At least wash the shit out of it first. Though I think euros like the taste since they use all that disgusting shit in their food, but maybe it's just because they're desperate unlike the country with the most food in the world.
>taking emotional damage from some rando criticizing your country's food culture
Actually live in south texas. The worse mexican food looks, the better it tastes. The more in the ghetto it is, the better it tastes.
Do you want to see a Mexican restaurant i go to that is always, always packed for lunch? The serves some of the best shit that is always piping hot and made fresh, down to the tortillas?
Pic related. Everyone goes there, the rich, the poor, everyone.
Looks depresing as hell, how much of the usa looks like that? Why are buildings so ugly?
Because its literally on the poorest and worst street in the entire city, so much so that its a meme for picking up prostitutes in the area. It literally starts to roll by refinery's the farther you go.
But god damn is cafe ole some of the best shit around.
>cities have bad areas?!
Yes retard kun, maybe one day you'll leave your hovel and learn more basic shit that everyone else already knew
The US genuinely is ugly, and when it's not ugly, it's sterile or kitschy. It wasn't always like that, though. US cities had some fantastic architecture, but a lot of those buildings have either been torn down or had their facades changed to something soulless. There's still some nice architecture to be found, but it's more individual buildings among a sea of soulless shit.
Also, I'm not saying this to "own" the US or anything. I genuinely think it's sad.
There's a similar pattern here in Europe, but the main difference is that our cities obviously have retained more of their old architecture, given that our countries are much older. The ones that god bombed into oblivion during the war and rebuilt in a modern or functionalist style, are every bit as ugly as many American cities.
Shut the fuck up europoor.
This video helps explain this phenomenon.
Franchise nation following all the same codes.
All of South Texas looks like that. Literally the poorest part of America outside of some small Indian reservations.
I'll give you a hint, according to census records, English is the second most spoken language in Brownsville.
cali wali chad here
this is absolutely correct
also literally all the mexican food posted in this thread looks amazing
>also literally all the mexican food posted in this thread looks amazing
ok not this one
This man is correct. The more you look like you're about to get stabbed, the better the food will be. This applies almost universally for any given ethnic or folk style food.
Can confirm, went to Houston last week for work and got a run down of where all the good food is by one of our Latina clients, and they’re all dumpy looking on the outside but great food.
All the best Vietnamese and Mexican restaurants are in our local ghetto, can confirm.
These all look like fucking great hangover food. Or even drunk food.
Were any of these in AZ?
Actual award-winning New Mexico-style Mexican food in at Blue Agave, Scottsdale, AZ. The only restaurant I've ever eaten huitlacoche in, they also have the best selection of tequila anywhere.
OT, you still can't beat the logistical footprint of the MRE.
the inferiority complex is something that has to see to believe. Ive eaten in the some of the finest restaurants in paris, amsterdam ny cali vegas and miami. you judge food by how it looks in a photo? then wendys must have some of the best food on earth. quit seething europoor, it is quite unbecoming.
Wait... are you *complaining* about these pictures of Tex-Mex? They look like decent, hearty dishes to me. What is your standard? Tiny portions of food plated in an artistic swirl that costs half a laborer's daily wage? Tex-Mex is (for the most part) blue-collar food, valued for its flavor, not its presentation.
> a europoor can not comprehend cheap, good tasting food in large quantities that doesn't need to be plated in some gay manner
>french
>No they literally can’t. Tomato sauce is one of the hardest things to stabilize over time.
Which makes it even more of a mystery why they decided to make at least 1/3 of the 2021 menu items that use tomato sauce
>04 – Spaghetti with Beef and Sauce
>07 – Beef Strips in Tomato Sauce
>08 – Meatballs in Marinara Sauce
>12 – Elbow Macaroni
>13 – Cheese Tortellini
>18 – Beef Ravioli
>22 – Beef Goulash
>24 – Southwest Style Beef and Black Beans
The guy who figured out to make something close was very proud of his invention, and tomato sauce is pretty key stable of most American cooking since a good chunk of it was stolen from the Eye-talians.
Gotta admit, Natick is pretty retarded at times.
When you spends a lot of money to try to figure something out, by gum, you're going to use the shit out of it
Zoglings are used to zogslop
Goyslop is the most retarded thing to come out of 4chan. It just sounds so unoriginal and a way for third worlders to cope about their food being so shit that makes processed foods healthy.
Yeah. I mean, there's a core of truth to it, but of course nu4chan runs everything into the ground, and always goes 100% for the conspiracy angle. It's like a fucking cult that's as bad as the people they used to criticize, and still pretend to criticize.
Literally everything is a conspiracy theory to them. Everything is fake and everything is controlled from behind the scenes by some malicious, omnipotent enemy.
There is truth to it though. HFCS has been shown to have some pretty serious effects on health but it's still in use because it's cheaper and cheaper=more profitable. If the whole goyslop thing were a fabrication, then HFCS would've been banned here a long time ago just as it's already banned in most other first world countries.
Don't forget seed oils, artificial sweeteners, sugar and food coloring. All bad for you.
I don't think that's banned anywhere. It's not commonly used in my country, I believe, but it's still legal.
Stupid amounts of corporate lobbying power is why
US military MRE are actually considered quite good. Way better than English mre.
US uses MREs for their intended purpose, which is extended field ops. US logistics allow them to forward-deploy regular kitchens to their field bases.
for me it's picrelated
A fellow patrician I see
Greetings. Its seldom that I encounter peers on this board.
There are tons of good MRE's out there and a few really bad ones and MRE pizza is exceptional.
Because the MRE is a stop gap until field kitchens can be established. As such, the MRE emphasizes longevity, portability and ease of eating (no heating required), for which it is one of the best in the world. Yes its goyslop bullshit but so is every other ration.
Having the best logistics in the world comes with advantages, because unlike europoors, the doughboy will have 3 hots and a cot in a FOB while you are still camping in the mud eating out of tin cans.
their MREs are heated too
>be me
>inna Iraq 2016 for ISIS
>running patrols and support ops out of a fob for three months
>we were the logistics hub, but only had mres for our entire stay there
>fuckwit supply officer only ordered case A the entire time
Yeah, my lived experience says you're full of shit. 92Gs don't do shit.
Sounds like someone didn't appropriately haze the supply officer.
>go haze someone in an entirely different organization located on an entirely different base
You're a retard.
Behavior like that is exactly why you ate shit for 3 months and are now are ranting on the internet trying to feel superior.
But wtf does your post have to do with
, all you said is "Nuh uh, because one time we had a supply officer that fucked up!".
Anon, most countries require flame to heat their rations still.
I regret forcing the goyslop meme on PrepHole, now that I see other people doing it I realize how stupid it sounds.
Goyslop itself is kind of funny, but it's unbearable now that there are so many people just adding to -slop suffix to other random shit that makes no sense.
Don't forget the ones that actually mean it.
Do I spot flecks of mold or are my eyes playing tricks on me?
US MRE is all about convenience. You only need a bottle of water and 10 minutes for a warm meal. European ones taste objectively better, but you need to fuck around with mess kits, portable stoves, cans and other extraneous bullshit, all of which add weight and complicates preparation.
>Eurotards think they'll have access to a literal full kitchen at all times to prepare their food
Why did the entirety of Europe fall to their knees while America saved them? Why did Europe become an entire welfare continent dependent on the USA?
i'd reckon scale and logistics play a big role.
try the German "armor plates"
... what's in it?
Keks(e)
It's just hardtack. I love 'em.
>flour
>sugar
>palm fat
>corn starch
>glucose syrup
>salt
>barley malt
not going to buy them at panzerplatten prices tho
If you think MREs are anything but a gift from god you're outing yourself as a never having served and being nogunz
Med Rations>Other europeans
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else.
Its easier to make fancy ass rations when your entire armed forces is 300k max, and a quarter of that is even going to be eating rations at all.
>Not using cans for your MRE.
Those bags to warm the meals are atrocious and full of microplastics and shit than can't be good for hormones, give me a can of sardines, calamary or meatballs and beans.
You know most cans have plastic linings, right? Yeah, I know you probably aren't heating the can (unless you are, in which case you're retarded), but you've still got plastic touching your food.
Either way, regarding microplastics, humanity is already fucked six ways from Sunday. Its everywhere, and its absolutely ruining kids, especially boys, hormones.
I would prefer them to use glass canning, but I know its impractical.
What was the holy grail item in your cunts MRE
for me it was this mashed potatoes with meatballs and gravy
also sprats
I love seafood, so I usually is this or the sardines.
Canned fish are an abomination unto god and you are one of his devils for shilling it.
If it were not for the laws of this land i would cut you.
I pity you anon, canned seafood is top tier.
I hate the spine texture in canned sardines
You can find them without spines, but I would get mackerel instead of sardines if you hate the spines,more or less the same in terms of nutritions and it has a less powerful taste.
the only thing better than sardines is that there's this weird cultural hatred for them by people who've never tried them
more deenz for me
oh also, i want to add that i changed MRE with an american. whoever approved the cinnamon chewing gum should be roundhouse kicked into concrete. and that american bread is just sugar
Nothing better than waking your ass up is some cinnamon chewing gum mixed with caffeine gum.
For me, its King Oscar Mediterranean Style. The reason deenz are great for PrepHole is you can take the olive oil, put it in a pan, and use it to fry eggs. I 3d printed a very sturdy egg carrier so they won't have any chance of getting smashed in my pack, and it lets me have eggs in the morning with a can of deenz.
Don't get the onions ones, the rest I would eat them. Never had sardines in mustard tough.
Also are you the egg out anon?
To be fair, I've never see any but the extra virgin olive oil and Mediterranean ones. I know I'd love the tomato sauce ones, because I love mackarel in tomato sauce.
Mackarel is another top tier canned food. Squid, mussels, sardines, mackarel, navajas, zamburriñas... They have saved me from eating shit time again and again.
I love calamary in his own ink, but it has a powerful flavour.
is there even a difference between sprats and deenz? or is this just a langue thing where one side calls them x and the other y
Sprats are spratus spratus, herring are typically Atlantic Herring, clupea harengus.
You're supposed to have this on your webbing to eat with. It even has a decent steak knife.
Same family of fish (herring family) but I believe sprats are smoked as a rule while sardines aren’t.
>is there even a difference between sprats and deenz? or is this just a langue thing where one side calls them x and the other y
Sprats do not smell like shit and are actually good.
>use the olive oil, put it in a pan, and use it to fry egg
i mean...you can do that with any canned seafood that uses oil? i like the Riga sprats another anon posted, but iirc they no longer use olive oil but a blenda of some kind.
Sorry, I should have said: "The reason deenz are great for PrepHole is you can use the olive oil to make eggs and also you have deenz."
>mashed potato and meatballs
why is it in Spurdo and in Vodka?
the estonian ration packs were basically just civilian stuff. so when we dont have russian labeling on stuff the tiblas get butthurt that we are genocideing them again
>tiblas get butthurt that we are genocideing them again
I mean, you should.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%931950)
we got rid of germs in interwar
guess tiblas will just have to wait this time
My friend gave me a French ration and I ate it out in my blind. Was flat out the best I've ever had and the Dutch24 was a close second probably. Italian one was pretty mediocre but the cordial was very cool. I will probably get more French ones for next season as even though esbit stoves are obnoxious to use compared to a retort, it shits all over US rations.
Only odd thing about the French one is the lack of included utensil. So I made one while it was cooking.
I'm not much of a pate guy usually but the only one better than the French was German. It's just pretty nice to have hot food sitting in a 4x5 box all day so I'm glad these exist.
French rations kick ass.
They do. But this main (Dutch24?) was maybe the best thing I've ever had out of any ration.
>Dutch ration
>made in Thailand
?????
It was the only foreign thing in that monstrous extended range pack. It was absurdly good. Big actual chunks of non mechanically separated chicken, and mushrooms that had the texture of actual cooked mushrooms not from a can.
>There's clearly an indentation for ripping
>Didn't rip at that point
there's one at the top too, you rip down as you eat the thing
The fruit jelly is absolute got tier, and you got a great menu.
I don't think it had any jelly? I don't remember and I don't see any in my photos. This thing was some sort of fruit bar and it was great. The banana bar was also top tier. I'd buy both if I could find them here.
You got the nougat its a southern france thing, still great. Eating a good ration with the boys after a night ruck is an awesome feeling
It did have this fruit bar sorta thing, found the photo. Usually a ration has something in it I don't love but this French one was 10/10 all the way through. Even the coffee was great.
I actually shot my first deer of the season while the esbit was steaming away. Middle of the day too when activity is usually nonexistent.
The Italian one by comparison was nothing compared to the French. This was indistinguishable from chef boyardee.
I think the worst thing I've ever had was the Spanish one with squid. I really like seafood but that was horrendous.
The ostrich was amazing in my French ration. The entire thing was amazing. As far as civilian use is concerned at least, I think its my favorite ration just for the plethora of great tasting food it has. Its like one of those overly expensive worldwide food sampler boxes you pay 20+ bucks for, except its actually worth it.
Completely agree. If you separated it from the box and put it in a gift basket I don't think anyone would bat an eye or think it was military.
I didn't use all the esbit blocks either, so I kept them and they store perfectly inside a bundeswher esbit stove, along with a pack of matches. Its a very compact little kit.
>It did have this fruit bar sorta thing, found the photo
Yeah that's the stuff, I would trade my nougat for this. We used to have half a meal when we were out in the field but when we had ration it was a reason to celebrate kek.
I would trade things for this thing right here. Just curious are you the FFLanon who's been around here something like ten years now?
I will probably get several for next deer season. And maybe one for spring turkey even.
I really like squid but something about that can. I took one bite and couldn't do it. Perhaps the can had spoiled but it was a fairly up to date pack so that seems unlikely.
It was very cold and snowing hard here so between both mains I ended up using all the blocks. Left the stove in my blind in case I ever need one out there though.
French rations are divine
> BBC (30%)
pretty large L for the french ngl
>The Italian one by comparison was nothing
>Italian one was pretty mediocre
This. I'm italian and I don't understand why so many MRE youtubers like to pretend the italian mre is anything good. It's ok at best and the food inside unlike other militaries isn't even something engeneered for the mre in the first place, they are literally discount store items (usually ristora brand) packaged with a blank label.
MRE reviewers youtubers are larperating gays and youtubers double down on the gayry
>t. I was on MREinfo before it was cool
>Steve is a nice guy tho
Learn to greentext, gay.
Understand what "sotto voce" means, mong
Hmm, the alternatives would be Russian, Arab and Chinese rations
I don't think that'd help
Go back, wop.
I'm educated, not Italian. (Thankfully.)
>to what European militaries provide their troops?
Europe has militaries?
Yeah. British and French are half decent and their special operations units are good to superb.
We put a shitton of R&D into making a nutrient and calorically dense food that is shelf stable for stupid amounts of time that takes minimal prep in crude conditions then tried to make it resemble common comfort foods as the final requirement. It's a good survival food first, and a minimal comfort second. It's better from a mental perspective to have shitty cardboard pizza than shitty canned dog food, which is basically where we'd have gone if we removed the comfort aspect.
>Americans get paid to take vacations with pizza and coke
Literal NEETs
Ladies, ladies, ladies. Listen: All military food is prison-tier, because that is what you wellfare queens deserve. We real men (taxpayers) eat good because we make the money that pays for your tugboat.
Verification not required.
I think more rations should come with some kind of cordial. I imagine the menu with this is heavily fought over in the Italian forces anytime they're out on exercise.
> grown ass adults arguing over a shot of cordial
Alcohol culture is some of the gayest shit on Earth
There's only one module in the world with booze in it. That one. When you've been sleeping outside and rucking all day, you can bet your ass everyone wants that booze tube.
Honestly, never once in all of my time pounding the ground did I think "Damn, I wish I had a shot of cordial to really add to the dehydration".
It's an after dinner drink. You enjoy it when you finally get a chance to relax.
> relax
I suppose that's where the disconnect is.
Anon it's the Italian military. There is plenty of relaxing.
My comments might be a little late.
I've sampled a few MREs from different countries. Here is my conclusion.
American MREs are nothing but shelf stable gas station food. That shit you never buy.
Most others countries already have a lot of shelf stable grab they just pack in an MRE. Pattes, crackers, cans of meat or buckwheat, stuff you can buy at a grocery store.
If you ever go into an ethnic store, you'll find most of the ingredients in European MREs.
The US hash brown MRE was very good
>lasts forever
>self-heating that actually works
>palatable enough with hot sauce
>six gorillion calories per pouch
Let me guess, you NEED more?
I’d take the hardtack over mre snackbread.
>person shitting on america
>american response
>lol haha classic american trying to tell people about their country!
Is this a projection? Why make a picture about that when the people in your country relatively indulge on that same culture and being no different than a mutt themselves?
US MREs are designed for actual wars and not just something to feed troops on a weekend training mission. Tmk US doctrine is troops should be eating them for no more than 2-3 weeks until field kitchens can be established. US MREs are also designed iirc to have a 65% survival rate being thrown 90ft out of the back of a passing C-130 with no chute or, again iirc, 95% survival rate being dropped like pic related. They also (if stored correctly) have an almost indefinite shelf life. Almost all other rations from other nations seem to be just random commercial foods shoved into a green/brown box, as such do not meet the listed above criteria.
>65%
What breaks from all that? The flame-less heater and the utensils I can get but the bags would break from that?
>90ft in the air + hitting the ground at whatever speed the C-130 was traveling when dropped
I don't think you realize how much energy is at play here when it hits the ground.
He's right. MRE is THE bombproof ration. Also ships and packs very well.
Weren't HDRs dumped out the back of C-17s from several thousand feet during the first months of Afghanistan? They originally used parachutes, and then discovered that you could just cut slits in the cases and slide them off the ramp.
pizza being an MRE is a miracle.
That's not crude at all, everyone likes a good 'za.
All I know is after spending months on Canadian IMP's and US MRE's, they all start to taste the same after awhile.
US MREs all sorta have a slight chemical taste. Foreign ones generally lack it.
Has anyone had Chinese MREs? I'd like to give them a try, even though I trust China the least when it comes to safe to eat food after buying mushrooms that tasted of chemicals.
A couple of times a year, there's this military outlet that sets up shop in my town for a few weeks, and they sell a shitload of old, mostly used military equipment/surplus, both from my country and various other European countries (including eastern Europe), along with some American stuff. Some of it dates back to the 50s. I've bought some stuff that's useful for camping, along with a couple of eastern European helmets that have the names of the previous users written on the inside.
Anyway, they usually have MREs at half price, and while I have no particular interest in eating shelf-stable crap, I guess it would be fun to try just to see what it's like.
I still haven't seen any Chinese crap so far, though.
That's pretty cool, my military outlet sold out of their milsurp stock a long time ago and really only sells reproduction stuff and workwear. You'd be surprised how long food lasts when it's stored properly and without container degradation leeching into the food like with metal cans, the only thing I'd be concerned about it is the fats and oils going rancid.
>my military outlet sold out of their milsurp stock a long time ago and really only sells reproduction stuff and workwear.
Yeah, one thing I can't understand, is how the hell they're still able to dig up surplus items, many unused, that are over 60 years old, but the supply seems to be endless. To be fair, about 60% of the stuff they sell are reproductions or just generic military-styled gear of varying quality, but there's always enough old stuff there to make it interesting.
I mean, they sell literally anything, including used shovels, boots, motorcycle helmets and motorcycle jacket, ammo boxes, all kinds of uniforms, caps and patches, radio equipment, huge insulated food containers, socks, and even piles of monitors from the 90s. Pretty much anything they can get their hands on that is legal to sell.
Probably a pretty easy task for the US considering that the military has been the main portion of their budget for the longest time. Still it's pretty interesting to see smaller euro countries still have milsurp stock in the year of our Lord 2023.
Another thing that might be interesting to you is the fact that we have tons and tons of Mausers floating around. Almost every family either has a Mauser in their attic, or grandfather who owned one or used one in the military.
Back during the war, we were occupied by the Germans, and when the war ended, all of their military equipment was left behind and adopted by our military. That included something like 300k Mausers, many of which were sold to conscripts at the end of their service for a symbolic sum.
Unfortunately, almost all of them were rechambered to fit NATO standards, so they're not original, but most of them retain their original markings, including the German eagle, the swastika and the serial numbers. They're quite cheap too, at least by my country's standards.
That is really interesting! Always cool to see history being preserved in the form of family heirlooms
I always bitch at my father for not buying his service rifle when he finished his military service. He just has zero interest in guns.
I plan to buy my own 98k this year, though.
Yeah I definitely regret not getting into firearms sooner when military surplus was more affordable and more of a niche hobby and stuff wasn't being shilled by every popular youtuber and their brother. Hoping I'll be able to own a ww2 era 1911 and a garand one day.
>Hoping I'll be able to own a ww2 era 1911 and a garand one day.
If you want to go full retard, which I recommend,, buy a Norwegian Kongsberg 1911 that was manufactured for the Germans during WW2 and had German markings. Not that's something you'll want to show off at your local range.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kongsberg_Colt
Military rations carpet bomb your guts like no other. It’s a good idea to stay away from them
you guys will literally fight about anything
my favorite was Chili Mac
Because a specific requirement of MREs is that there's no canned items in them. Whereas Euros are free to put shit like canned pilchards and all sorts inside their rations.
And canning > any other kind of food preserving in terms of what basic ingredients you can preseve.
Which euro MREs? They barely make any.
>deenz
so is that an actual brand that is above and beyond Ye Olde Riga brand or are some people above saying "sardines" for some reason?
As someone who traded many a MRE with Euro compatriots, they're not all that's cracked out to be. American MREs blow damn near anything out of the water as far as operational capacity goes, Euro MREs are alright and most of the time substitutes for proper chow and not particularly good ones at that. Euros rarely had anything comparable to our kitchens and DFACs when applicable, there were several times we had a fucking fresh salad bar in the middle of Afghanistan. Euros who didn't eat with us often times had to just heat up their MREs.
Are you calling Steve a liar?
NTA but Steve is an autist who drastically overrates how good what he eats for the camera. I love the guy, and I love the videos, but I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I'd like to eat rations from any country for any extended amount of time.
No, I'm just saying MREs need to be put in context of their use. Euro MREs are better in many regards (country dependent a lot of E. Euro MREs suck dick) but are substitutes to proper kitchen foods. American MREs are calorie and nutrient dense and intended to be used in the field when kitchens aren't available. Longest I went at any point in Afghanistan eating MREs straight was 6-7 days, after that we had freshly cooked food every day we weren't on patrol.
When we're talking about European MREs, I assume we're referring to western Europe. Of course, the standards here vary, based on what part of Europe we're talking about, with Scandinavia being particularly autistic about comfort and quality, while Med countries tend to lean more towards canned food that is still somewhat decent.
I'm Scandinavian, and our rations are considered quite good. Hell, half the stuff in the rations I've seen consists of commercial brands you can buy at your local supermarket, and a main course consisting of freeze dried food based on traditional dishes, with some faux-international stuff thrown in there for good measure. There are also some American food items in there, like Jack Links and the infamous shelf stable pizza that you Americans came up with.
I've also heard that American MREs are terrible for your digestive system. To be fair, I think this is a gross exaggeration and mostly a joke, but it shouldn't really be a factor at all, considering constipation and diarrhea should be the last things on your mind if you're in a situation where you have to rely on MREs for sustenance.
As regards in field catering.. No contest. You guys have the best by miles.
In terms of field rations though? Seriously, your stuff is shit tier. Only thing I ever found in them I liked was the jalapeno cheese. There is not a single European ration I wouldn't take over a US MRE and most of the Mid-East knes I sampled were superior also. I suppose your B echelon support being so much better makes the packaged ration less of a concern to your planners.
US MREs are substantially more stable and tolerant of extreme conditions then European ones, since as you say, the US places a big emphasis on having the logistical train to do field catering, both from a morale point of view and a simple cost effectiveness point of view, while a Euro army's expeditionary forces might have to actually subsist off MREs for a longer period. US MREs are intended for either short term while logistics are kicking into action or extreme conditions where you can't maintain the logistical train effectively. Both paths make sense considering the surrounding military, but it does impose a bunch of challenges on the US MRE that most Euro ones wouldn't be able to pass, certainly not with their full menu options.
They aren't. Look how many calories come from biscuits/crackers in euro rations.
It’s been a while since I’ve been in the army so I’m not sure what the current menu is. Most of the meals were fine (not great, not awful) but some were gross as fuck. Jalapeño cheese spread was the most sought after item and could be traded for any other item.
The same thread every fucking time. Euros have no idea what "American Food" is. There are breads, meats, vegetables of absolute kino quality that are not replicable anywhere else. The concept of eating an elk, or black specks, or fried mullet, heart of palm, chili con carne, or any of the other wonderful things we make is beyond them, as they live in countries half the size of our individual states. There is simply no way for them to conceptualize such things. All you know is fatfuck food, candy, and ranch dressing, and assume that's all we eat.
I had a bowl of fresh local fruit on buttered oatmeal for breakfast. I made chili with beans and rice from scratch for lunch. Dinner was chicken creole and a fat salad of mixed greens with a vinaigrette. I'm poor as shit, none of this is unusual food.
Sometimes for snacks I'll eat a peanut butter and honey sandwich in whole grain bread. Or a tuna-melt for a comfy classic.
Fucking provincial ass euros, blows my mind how you people think you're so worldly. I can get a good meal from any nation's cuisine on earth within an hour drive.
>I can get a good meal from any nation's cuisine on earth within an hour drive
>within an hour drive
>hour
>drive
holy prime minister of kekkistan. even when the mutt tries to defend himself he advertises the shittiness of american cities.
I don't doubt that passable food exists if you got the shekel, but the fact that you have to go on a voyage with a fucking AESA radar to find it says a lot.
Dumb fuck, id have to drive an hour to eat African boiled goat hoof or some shit ass Norwegian fish offal, but all the good stuff is close and common. I have cuban, indian, every asian, German, polish, every Caribbean, Mexican, Turkish, Lebanese, all within 10 minutes.
An hour is nothing when you're in your own car and not getting stabbed by Africans on some shitty train, coping gay. I have my own stereo and air conditioning and I don't even have to pedal
MRE's are good. Really not any bad meals anymore. I think the concept pf "field stripping" them is stupid and you are better off with trail mix and peanut butter if on a long patrol but if supply lines aren't a problem they aren't so bad.
I used to hoard the kosher and halal MREs, we didn't have many of those people but we always got a fixed amount of meals regardless. I ate them for 3 years after separation when I was hiking or fishing or working. They were pretty good.
Why can't USA MREs just be more simple?
It's always something all mixed together like beef taco
Why can't it just be chicken or turkey and mashed potatoes?
>Why can't it just be chicken or turkey and mashed potatoes?
The NATO MRE STANAG states there must be a bread / biscuit component, hence why MREs will always have something like shelf-stable bread or taco or whatever
same reason why yuro MREs will have e.g. spag bol AND a packet of biscuits
So, to have better MREs we need to leave NATO?
They used to be. They figured the current way is more optimal and better.
On topic of US MREs vs Euro ones, one thing rarely mentioned is variety: US ones have several times the number of menus than the ones in europe and if you're stuck eating the same thing over and over again it won't matter to you that at first it tasted better.