Why are they like this?

No money?

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      14 ye
      ars of tory austerity

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Theyre going to F-35s and 6th gen development

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      So are Italy and Germany.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Stop bullying

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Why are they buying Typhoons then?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          mostly to support their domestic MIC.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Because F-35 is a shitty fighter

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Because it's an excellent fighter that costs half the price of a lightning II

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            It actually costs $20 million more.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              And it's 20 times better

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                In what way? A dogfight?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            the price for an eurofighter typhoon in 2018 was 90 million $. an F-35B is CURRENTLY110.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Germans are only getting F-35s to lob nukes in Europe and do short range reconnaissance.
          They wont be integrated with German weapons like IRIS-T and Taurus and Germany doesn't have planes that can refuel F-35 to send them on long-range missions.

          It's funny how Germany instantly establish itself within the supply chain for the F-35. Rheinmetall is building 400 hulls for the F-35.

          They're simply being given the roles Turkey were going to have in F-35 production until they got kicked out.
          It's a step down from the initial plan to build Germany's F-35s in Germany. They'll now be built at Fort Worth like everybody else

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            There never were plans to build F-35s in Germany

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >They wont be integrated with German weapons like IRIS-T and Taurus
            Why not?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              money, kraut autism, and the fact that Taurus can't fit in an F-35 bay
              >you are now aware that the fricking krauts still haven't finished integrating Taurus onto their Typhoons

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Lockheed shartin has been dragging their feet for 8 years integrating Meteor for F-35 even tho it has been made to fit into the bay, it's not gonna be any different for Taurus or Iris-T

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Germany
        Franco-German 6th gen fighter is a myth.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          It's not a myth, it's just going to be 2045+

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Germany are also most likely buying another 8 F-35 as well.
      And are also spearheading a loyal wingman for the Eurofighter with Spain.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Bloomberg even reports 10 F-35

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        There are rumors that we are buying 10 additional ones.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They should have bought the Chinese Rafale from Lockheed Martin.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because the bongs don't want a version of Typhoon optimised for Electronic Warfare. The new Typhoons are to replace Germany and Italy's Tornado ECRs

    They're also doing their own upgrade program with a different radar with electronic attack capability, new wienerpit displays and MADL for better integration with F-35 and other American stealth aircraft.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Germany
    >Italy
    >Spain
    Dont these shitters still operate legacy Tornados and Harriers lmao

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You say that like it's a bad thing

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >UK 36/138 F35s 137 EFs
    >Italy 31/75 F35s 80 EFs
    >Germany 0/35 F35s 138 EFs
    Why are they better than the Italians and the Germans?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The UK is engaged for 74 F-35 so far, not 138. They're also getting rid of 53 Eurofighter Tranche 1.
      Italy is engaged for 90 F-35 not 75, and acquried 96 Eurofighter then decided recently for 24 more. Not sure if these will replace the Tranche 1.
      Germany has acquired 143 Eurofighter, is getting rid of 33 Tranche 1, then paid for 38 more, and is discussing a complement of 20 now.
      You also forgot Spain which acquired 73 Eurofighter, opted for 20 more, and then for up to 25 additional ones.
      >Why are they better than the Italians and the Germans?
      They're not.

      France was right all along.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >The UK is engaged for 74 F-35 so far, not 138.
        >"We remain committed to procuring 138 F-35 aircraft” said James Cartlidge, Minister of State at the Ministry of Defence
        Bruh
        >They're also getting rid of 53 Eurofighter Tranche 1
        >Older Typhoon jets, specifically 24 Tranche 1 examples, are to be retired by 2025
        Bruh
        >53 Tranche 1
        They only had 30 T1s to start with where did you get 53 from??
        > They're not.
        RAF comfortably shits on all of them, without getting into stuff like experience and operational aircraft (cough Germany)
        >France was right all along
        France has the worst out look of all of the above Operating gen 4+ and legacy Mirages, 0 Gen 5. Nice third world seller though.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Nta but you have got alot of things mixed up my country (italy) inclusive.

        Italy is buyung 24 EFs to direcly replace its T1s.
        UK is retiring 25 old T1s and ordering more F35s.
        Germany is buying 38 EFs to direcly replace its T1s and Twin seats. The extra 20 will likley replace EFs that are also beyond repair, the German maintainence program for the EFs was horrible and left at times only 10-20 operational.
        Spain is buying 20 T3 EFs and 25 T4 EFs to replace 50 legacy F18s.

        No one is gaining additional numbers except UK and MAYBE Germans, huge but as that they are probably to just replace broken and abused airframes they already have but dont admit. Also Spain crashed lots of EFs lol. The UK has the best fleet going forward with the most f35s and nice EF radar with EW feature.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >have probably the worst jet in the world
    >buy more
    >additionally buy jets from the US that makes you completely dependent on the US.

    Why is military procurement like this? Its almost as if these countries are not sovereign nations.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The brits are responsible for a chunk of the F35's systems so they benefit from supporting the program. The US is dependent on the UK for the F35 and the UK makes money for every construction.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    fixing their shitty healthcare is a higher priority.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    bongs barely are okay accepting the F-35 into service as it is, they're already embarrassed enough that they can't domestically produce for their own RAF at the moment. they pissed away their military industry to afford as many cuts as they could to their taxes and are now realizing they can't turn around and undo it. actually, kind of a lesson the entire west is learning right now.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's funny how Germany instantly establish itself within the supply chain for the F-35. Rheinmetall is building 400 hulls for the F-35.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly we shouldn't have sold the euros shit. They shit on us for decades and then turn around and desperately try to buy the F-35 when they realize it's better than the alternative shitty Gripens or Rafales.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Victim mentality with made up problems.
          Stop being a heeb.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          You got all our nazi parents and Werner von Braun. What more do you want?!

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >We shouldn't sell to allies which reduces individual unit costs

          Dumb Black person. You are the stupidest Black person.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Noooooo stop giving us billions and reducing per unit cost
          Ok

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Not just F-35. Rheinmetall and Lockheed are working closely in more and more field together.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Without the export market, the F-35 Program would have been axed.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The bongs? This video will probably sum it up

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  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    To be fair, the UK is also upgrading their old ass Tranche 1s with the P4E package and new radars which should be faster than ordering new ones

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The RAF are shelling out for the most advanced Typhoons in the world you disingenuous homosexual

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If you're wondering why this shit thread is still up, out local autist has decided to grace us with his presence this day and will bump what he feels like hurts bongs the most till it hits bump limit regardless of how shit or bullshit the thread is.

    I did it. I raped his mom. His dog also likes me better I keep feeding him goose fat.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I am an Italian that lived in UK.

    I hate politics in my country and I consider all our politicians as joke.

    UK is on another level. It Is like they had and arm race since the end of ww2 (or Better ww1) to frick their people in the ass. Nothing of what they do make sense, as and Italian i am used to incompetence, but at this point i got the doubt: are UK politicians trying to destroy their country?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Mostly yes.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >I hate politics in my country and I consider all our politicians as joke.
      Even the Fascist hobbit lady???

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >I miss them so much it hurts

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I give her some benefit of a doubt...but I want her to show more balls against immigration...

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