Why are there so many korea threads toda- oh

>According to a report submitted by People Power Party National Assembly Member Shin Wonsik major defects have been found on all nine of the Republic of Korea Navy (ROKN)’s Son Won-il class submarines, modified versions of the German Type 214 also known as KSS II. This is a major blow to the ROKN’s submarine force, which heavily relies on the vessels.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/10/major-defects-found-on-south-koreas-type-214-submarine-fleet/

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Buy from Germany
    >It breaks
    ffs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      German electrician at it again. making things more complicated.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      German electrician at it again. making things more complicated.

      The German quality is shit tier but its being used as a political move by SK to increase funding for ssbn development, a similar tactic was used to get out of the F35B purchases with more F35A + KF21N development

      thats what you get when you buy german

      >didn't read the article
      The subs are korean-built copies of a german design, with some components that they're unable to make thenselves purchased directly from germany. At least one of the flaws was caused by the korean cooling system leaking seawater onto a german electrical system. The fact that this is happening aboard the all 9 of the submarines that korea built themselves, and not on the ones that they bought directly from germany (or anyone else's german-bought/german-cloned submarines of the same class, of which there are many) is indative of problems with the korean yards themselves.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Worst Korea can't into submarines

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Norks are really proud of their submarines.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            When you destroy a ASW ship in the middle of a huge RoK/US ASW exercise and get away undetected then yes, you get to be proud.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >there are cranes and chains just big and strong enough to pick up a fucking ship
              Man I'm easily impressed and all but fuck isn't that really cool?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You ain't seen nothin yet shipmate

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yo dawg

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Half a ship

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Cheonan_sinking
              > You get to be proud
              True pride comes from something you both can do and should do. But if you shouldn't do it, but did it anyway, should there be pride that you could do it?
              Wikipedia says Torpedo was fired from a midget submarine, not one of the larger buckets talked about in this thread.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'd say they have a right to be, they've been operating and building them for about 20 years longer than south korea and have actually used them in combat/infiltration ops.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >He stated that due to the inherently ethnic nature of Korean nationalism, there was no major uproar over the incident in South Korean society because of ethnic solidarity with North Koreans that many South Koreans feel, which Myers said overruled patriotism towards South Korea in many cases involving North Korea
              bruh

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >blow up own ship
              >oy vey
              >l..let's blame The Best Korea
              >they denied it
              >you close your factories that you have together with them
              >two months later reopen it
              >oy vey
              >see that intact torpedo we found under the sea

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        why read, if you can just get outraged at the headline
        also
        >pretend there is no problem, despite the electrical components being vital
        pic related

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/xYIndHh.jpg

        >According to a report submitted by People Power Party National Assembly Member Shin Wonsik major defects have been found on all nine of the Republic of Korea Navy (ROKN)’s Son Won-il class submarines, modified versions of the German Type 214 also known as KSS II. This is a major blow to the ROKN’s submarine force, which heavily relies on the vessels.
        https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/10/major-defects-found-on-south-koreas-type-214-submarine-fleet/

        >shitass construction
        >vessel comes from a daewoo yard

        Many, MANY such cases. Daweoo is only superior to somalian pirate dinghies or the bugmen building the PLAN. Literally the worst shipbuilder in the free world.

        Next time, let samsung build your subs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >submarine built by Daewoo that leaks
          >submarine built by Samsung where I'm eating, sleeping and working above several tons of Samsung batteries
          Are there any other choices?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well, you could be in a russian sub getting raped i guess

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >russian sub
              Or irradiated.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >surely rescue will come any time now, there's bongs overhead with specialist deep sea minisubs for just such an occasion
                >no? Guess I'll just asphyxiate then

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            >shitass construction
            >vessel comes from a daewoo yard

            Many, MANY such cases. Daweoo is only superior to somalian pirate dinghies or the bugmen building the PLAN. Literally the worst shipbuilder in the free world.

            Next time, let samsung build your subs.

            >Daewoo
            I haven't googled, but I thought they imploded years ago due to taking way too many loans to pay for other projects. I assume that their heavy shipbuilding division was sold off and only the name exists?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yep, I was right. They were bought by another company, but neato is that Hyundai and Samsung also have major ship yards in Korea.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This is fake news!
        Nothing like this ever happened!
        The K2 Black Panther being on it's way to the Mark5 version because Hyundai still can't make a tank without relying on German parts is a myth too!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          don't worry, someone is going to start talking about components in the k2 that are supposedly german in their indigenous powerpack

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            OK, meeting expectations
            >Euro Power Pack for K2
            >Wants to produce it themselves
            >Failed and decided to import only the first 100 lots from Germany
            >Engine copy failed on subsequent lots as well
            >In the end, the engines for all vehicles came from Germany
            https://m.edaily.co.kr/news/Read?newsId=02279606625966376&mediaCodeNo=257

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The engine is fully localized, it's the gearbox that had been the roadblock, until it passed 9600km(6000miles) trial recently.
              Turkey will be the first customer for the all-Korean powerpack since they've been sanctioned by Germany, so it's the only alternative to the europack on Altay.
              https://www.defenceturkey.com/en/content/korean-powerpack-starts-the-test-campaign-on-the-altay-mbt-5124

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > caused by the korean cooling system leaking seawater onto a german electrical system.
        Lol wtf

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > caused by the korean cooling system leaking seawater onto a german electrical system.
        Lol wtf

        Ah yes, a seawater submarine, a place you totally never expect to have seawater.
        Seems like a German design flaw too. The things should have been water tight.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the design can be as watertight as hell but it wont matter if the guys building it are retarded

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Hell probably isn't watertight.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Not inside of it lmao

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, all sub machinery should be able to survive a pumpable leak.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This, and all cars should be able to survive a mild 30 mph collision and still be driveable.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nice false equivalence. Electronics can be sealed and coated with relative ease.
                Unless you were being serious about the 30mph crash.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I dont even know where to start, but it comes down to: the inside of a submarine is choke full of systems that dont handle contact with (sea)water very well. Go visit an actual sub and you know what i mean.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >didn't read the article
                it literally mentions how the outer layers of the components are under attack

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >why aren't these electronics just operating as normal when the sub starts flooding
                I know you're probably being disingenuous but there's a reason why the first order when a space experiences flooding is to isolate it electrically, and that's because seawater absolutely fucks electronics. The last thing you need while trying to deal with flooding is an electrical fire.
                In addition, coping with flooding in a submerged submarine is even more nightmarish than on a surface vessel because the increased water pressure is forcing the sea in at a massively increased rate. It's why typically flooding will force a submarine to emergency surface regardless of the mission or danger topside
                5:00 on has a pretty good demonstration of what flooding at depth looks like

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          moronanon no, you do not in fact generally expect seawater INSIDE the submarine. That's actually kinda bad.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you're not retarded you design all systems to function even if there is nearby damage including salt water spray and any fluids used in the submarine.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              guess koreans are retarded then?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Koreans have one of highest IQ in world, unlike retard mutt American

                Cope

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Cope

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >iq estimations
                That is complete bullshit by the way.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dude, anyone with the bare-minimum knowledge of shipbuilding can make up credible sounding shit. I'll believe it once that congressman starts leaking documents.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >buys germans
      >modifies and therefore ruins it
      >too dumb
      >pavel cope

    • 1 month ago
      /out/ie

      Copy outdated German U-Boat design without the secret German sauce (it's Sauerkraut water).
      It sinks.

      Why does that happen to me?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The German quality is shit tier but its being used as a political move by SK to increase funding for ssbn development, a similar tactic was used to get out of the F35B purchases with more F35A + KF21N development

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    thats what you get when you buy german

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >german
      >modified design built by daewoo
      >pavel cope

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >are ya winning son

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >blub blubb

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    unironic question here, is German engineering really not that great? i've been seeing more and more negative news about it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      German engineering was the best until the 1990s and then declined since, today its second tier at best and that is being generous, largely stereotyped as poor quality products with weak manufacturing

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being so technologically backwards that you insult the Choson race by having to resort to foreign submarines and they still don't work. Such shameful display!

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    ...e seething threads today make a lot more sense now.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This plus twitter found out that the K2 is just a failed Type 90 prototype and that they also got assistance from Israel Tal designer of the Merkava, Philip W. Lett designer of the M48, M60, and M1, and Sven Berge designer of the Strv103.
    https://twitter.com/planbbg_131/status/1582418815429668867
    South Korea's uber tank just got outed as a Jap design kit bashed with other western designs and was never their design in the first place, their "SRBM" crashed on their heads, and half of their submarine fleet is fucked so they are in hardcore damage control.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >cites jap tweet about Korean tank
      Every single time. Fucking rent free, lmao.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Take it from the mouth of the head K2 developer at the ADD.

        ?t=1892
        He thanks General Tal, Hayashi Iwao, the chief engineer of the M1 (Philip Lett), and Sven Berge. The funny part is you even have Chinks in the replies calling Korea a country of thieves and poached talent.
        https://twitter.com/jaka15885835/status/1582702445624377345

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          meds, schizo

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Can't handle the lead dev saying its a copy. Here is the another article where the engineers claimed they stole the autoloader design for the K2 from watching videos of the Leclerc.
            https://www.hankookilbo.com/News/Read/200703092343454177
            The K2 is a chink tier knock-off, but even the chinks are making fun of it because they at least admit when their shit is stolen.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              moron, you're citing jap and chink tweets. Couldn't be more obvious that you're a butthurt weeb gay.
              dilate

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I am citing the head ADD K2 Project managers mouth in that

                Can't handle the lead dev saying its a copy. Here is the another article where the engineers claimed they stole the autoloader design for the K2 from watching videos of the Leclerc.
                https://www.hankookilbo.com/News/Read/200703092343454177
                The K2 is a chink tier knock-off, but even the chinks are making fun of it because they at least admit when their shit is stolen.

                youtube video, and a Korean article

                https://i.imgur.com/WEKQ2Q5.jpg

                Take it from the mouth of the head K2 developer at the ADD.

                ?t=1892
                He thanks General Tal, Hayashi Iwao, the chief engineer of the M1 (Philip Lett), and Sven Berge. The funny part is you even have Chinks in the replies calling Korea a country of thieves and poached talent.
                https://twitter.com/jaka15885835/status/1582702445624377345

                saying that they ripped off the Leclerc autoloader.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Its well known globally that the japanese have a massive inferiority complex towards Koreans, it used to be assumed that its because the japanese are 15cm shorter on average with a much lower iq but its being discovered that this inferiority complex goes back thousands of years when the koreans colonized japanese with korean y dna to form the yamato mutt race of korean y dna + jomon x dna

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The K2 is the best mbt in the world

      The Type 90 is a tank that is smaller than many ifvs with no firepower, armor or any advanced technologies other than the ability to retreat in reverse faster than it can attack going forward

      The K2 could take out 2 or 3 M1a2sep3s whereas the Type 90 would get mogged by a stock T72

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The type 90 armor is horrendously bad, its believed that standard 7.62 rounds can penetrate most of the type 90 armor

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Like with everything German, they've been remotely turned off:
    https://www.dw.com/en/german-submarines-fitted-with-russian-technology-report/a-57030819

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >imagine believing this pavel cope

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How exactly is Deutsche Welle coping?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          German built submarines work just fine you fucking retard. The Korean built knock-offs don't.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that the OP is a known vatnik spammer, namely "Armatard", he uses the same template over and over to have people baited for as long as it keeps them away from paying attention to any Russian losses in Ukraine.
    https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/55648014/

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Korean subs based on kraut tech -> has problems
    >newest Korean subs with indigenous design -> does not have problems
    it's a fucking mystery that only weebs can't figure out

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >newest Korean subs with indigenous design -> drops ballistic missiles on it's own head
      KSS-III has only been in service for barely a year. The idea that a submarine going 1 year without a catastrophic failure is a success story speaks loudly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >maybe retards will believe me if I go full schizo
        >t. butthurt weeb

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The modern realities is that South Korea is a world power for all intents and purposes, this includes nukes which SK is the leading nation with the only proven fusion reactor expertise

    The true GFP index if political correctness/diplomacy were ignored and the benchmark is in an all out war scenario

    1 US

    2 SK

    3 France

    4 UK, Germany

    5 Spain, Italy, Australia, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Israel, Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Poland

    6 Russia, China

    7 Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, North Korea, Brazil, Belgium, Austria, Saudi Arabia, UAE, New Zealand

    8 Japan, Portugal, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Algeria, Morocco

    9 Philippines, Taiwan, Chile, Argentina, Mexico, Mongolia, Tunisia, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >South Korea is a world power
      >2 SK
      They can only make war on their own people a few miles away. It's a regional power constantly hindered by the constant threat of the civil war flaring up again.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They can only make war on their own people a few miles away. It's a regional power constantly hindered by the constant threat of the civil war flaring up again

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Prove me wrong, gay.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >best MBT in world, the K2
            >best innovative rifle in the world, the K11
            >world class assault ships, i.e Dokdo class
            >most advanced Aegis ships, i.e Sejong the Great
            >very highly trained army and conscript
            Keep the cope, low IQ American retard

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >sub-20,000 ton, 23 knot assaultnship with only 15 helicopters
              Come on man, I ike the ROKN but the Dokdos are vastly smaller, slower, less capable Makin Island/America LHAs

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              None proven in war.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >American education
                Korea is still at war with the North, retard

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is like saying the latest nuclear warheads are not tested in war lol

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >all that cool shit
              >doesn't have a blue water navy
              When they get their carrier, they will leapfrog a bunch of other countries, but until then all their assault and auxiliary ships are only good as far as their land based air assets cover them. Which is all understandable when you consider they know their next war will most likely be just next door. Still makes them a regional power though.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Lol South Korea has deployed 500k+ combat troops post Korean War, no other nation other than the US can claim this, in fact when SK combat troops are deployed adversaries get killed at a scale that makes even the US uncomfortable, SK is the US's broad sword, UK is the US's scalpel

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >in fact when SK combat troops are deployed unarmed civilians get killed at a scale that makes even the US uncomfortable, while they are completely useless in combat, in many cases collapse of moron flank led to failure of mission
          FTFY

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Wikipedia

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >UK and Germany above Israel
      >Spain, Italy, Australia, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark, Poland can beat North Korea in a total war
      >Belgium and New Zealand have a chance against North Korea

      We get it, you are a moron.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >UK and Germany above Israel
        >in an all out war scenario
        Israel would get wiped out by either UK or Germany, their populations and resources are, separately, many times larger.
        >North Korea beating anyone in a total war scenario
        They have no economy to speak of, so no means by which to pursue anything like total war.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          While Israel is a small nation, both the UK and Germany are the size of a midsized US state with extremely limited natural resources

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          New Zealand, a nation with no air combat abilities, only two combat capable vessels in it's navy and only 100 wheeled armored vehicles it going to beat someone with twice as many armored vehicles as it has active soldiers and more artillery pieces that it's entire defense force has people after being hit with 50+ atomic warheads.

          /k/: Retarded 12 year olds on daddies computer.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    that's why no one takes korea seriously no matter how hard moronshills try

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >that's why no one takes korea seriously no matter how hard moronshills try

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the BBC appreciator has entered the chat

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >big brack cock

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You must understand, seething at germany is way more important to them than faulty subs on the other end of the world.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Shin Wonsik

    the fuck kind of moron name is that?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. literal gayposter

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        imagine being so insecure in your heterosexuality you can't even read gay romance mangas

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          are you a garden gnome or a redditor?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            homophobia is rife. Some guys are so homophobic they can't even jack off to cute twinks and fuck them in the ass.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You know I am getting really tired of the triumvirate of shitposting around Poland/Germany/Korea, rivals the whole Ukie vs Vatnik war in density. Could you at least be entertaining?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It ain't good but they were already in the process of replacing them with a superior, native sub. They'll be fine. They are already 15 years old so hardly a loss of cutting edge tech (ie useful againt China)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >"half of our submarine fleet isn't fit for purpose, but that's okay"
      ¯_(ツ)_/¯

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Its a third, not a half. They aren't completely useless and as I said its their older models (the newer subs are considerablly more useful). Also, allow me to remind you that I led with "it ain't good." I acknowledge that this is a setback but its hardly as catastrophic as some in this thread have claimed it to be.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Its a third, not a half
          >Total Submarines in Fleet: 19
          >major defects on all 9 Type 214
          1 new sub doesn't replace the usefulness of 9 slightly older subs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Only 7 are adversly affected. And I thought they had 21 subs in their fleet? 9 old, 9 really old, and 3 new.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    God, I'd commit war crimes to protect this smile!

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >People Power Party
    The same people who claimed that South Korea's F-35s had less than 20% availability? Yeah, like fucking hell I'll believe them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Mission capable stats should be available as they are in the US so you can easily verify such questions. Sortie availability depends on many factors and doesn't mean an aircraft can't be used in a war emergency but it's reasonable to expect high break rates during transition.

      This is an example of a worthless article. WHAT broke, what were the fixes, are the fixes complete, what changes will be integrated into production etc?

      https://theaviationist.com/2022/10/05/south-koreas-f-35as-grounded-by-malfunctions-172-times-over-18-months/

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So the south can't even complete a kit handed to them by Germany but the North already has a deployed ICBM launching sub with at least 5 proven launches under it's belt?

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being part of South Korea's JIDF-equivalent and defending your gay country on the internet for free by arguing with racist rednecks who fuck male deer corpses, laugh at people getting blown up, and constantly discuss methods of murdering government agents, about how totally cool and powerful you are when for the last 60 years all people would think about when hearing the word "Korea" is Kim Jong-Un and Matt Damon in a puppet film. At least your coworkers who create and monitor the totally organic K-Poop threads that litter half the boards on this site get paid in internet cafe-hours to act retarded; you on the other hand try so hard to work that supposedly genius IQ brain of yours into getting random foreigners to treat South Korea as a legitimate military power instead of knockoff Japan, but we all know it's too fried from playing Starcraft and watching Tiktoks of your favorite K-Poop idols recovering from their 28th jaw surgery when you're not "defending" your country for free or contemplating jumping off the roof of one of the many ugly eyesore commieblocks that adorn your "beautiful" cities

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Imagine being part of South Korea's JIDF-equivalent and defending your gay country on the internet for free by arguing with racist rednecks who fuck male deer corpses, laugh at people getting blown up, and constantly discuss methods of murdering government agents, about how totally cool and powerful you are when for the last 60 years all people would think about when hearing the word "Korea" is Kim Jong-Un and Matt Damon in a puppet film. At least your coworkers who create and monitor the totally organic K-Poop threads that litter half the boards on this site get paid in internet cafe-hours to act retarded; you on the other hand try so hard to work that supposedly genius IQ brain of yours into getting random foreigners to treat South Korea as a legitimate military power instead of knockoff Japan, but we all know it's too fried from playing Starcraft and watching Tiktoks of your favorite K-Poop idols recovering from their 28th jaw surgery when you're not "defending" your country for free or contemplating jumping off the roof of one of the many ugly eyesore commieblocks that adorn your "beautiful" cities

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine being part of South Korea's JIDF-equivalent and defending your gay country on the internet for free by arguing with racist rednecks who fuck male deer corpses, laugh at people getting blown up, and constantly discuss methods of murdering government agents, about how totally cool and powerful you are when for the last 60 years all people would think about when hearing the word "Korea" is Kim Jong-Un and Matt Damon in a puppet film. At least your coworkers who create and monitor the totally organic K-Poop threads that litter half the boards on this site get paid in internet cafe-hours to act retarded; you on the other hand try so hard to work that supposedly genius IQ brain of yours into getting random foreigners to treat South Korea as a legitimate military power instead of knockoff Japan, but we all know it's too fried from playing Starcraft and watching Tiktoks of your favorite K-Poop idols recovering from their 28th jaw surgery when you're not "defending" your country for free or contemplating jumping off the roof of one of the many ugly eyesore commieblocks that adorn your "beautiful" cities

        >Imagine being a RoK spammer proud of his fake nation failing to assemble a German submarine handed to you like a set of IKEA furniture while to the north the BEST version of your people is making nuclear armed ballistic submarines

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    German here, I think it's time for an honest admission of failures and observations in regards to our military and industry;

    - The Eurofighter is a failure overall. There is only a very limited number ready for combat at any point in time. It took decades to develop and the overall performance is just average

    - The Eurocopter is a failure overall.

    - Corruption in the military takes the form of "advisors" which were for deployed back when the current EU chief "Ursula von der Leyen" aka "Flintenuschi" was defense minister. A significant amount of money was spent on utterly useless advisors from Mc Kinsley and such.

    - There are major issues with certain Naval Ships

    - NH90 is barely operational

    - No pride in the engineering work since the decades old "love and peace" indoctrination also affected engineers working in the defense industry

    I could go on, there is overall just so much wrong, it's going to take decades to fix it.

    ... I could go on

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >try so hard to be regional power
    >fails
    The history of Korea in a nutshell.

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