Same reason the US dug out old M14s. Need to hit shit far away, intermediate rifle is bad at that. Difference is the Soviets never had a battle rifle phase in the same way we did so they had to go back further to get anything in quantity.
a semiautomatic a battle rifle for squad or platoon DMR is a bit different, these are being mass issued
My theory is that Russia sold a shit tone of its Soviet era surplus small arms, so much in fact that they don’t have enough to arm the reserves so they’re handing out whatever the frick they haven’t sold that’s still lying around in armories, that being mosins and rusted through AKMs l
You do realize that the scene was filmed in Czech republic, not in Russia and the rifles seen in that photo are actually vz. 58?
I am not the anon that you replied, but considering how many rifles former Soviet states exported since fall of Soviet Union, how large their internal security forces are and how even much of "new" exported rifles seem to have receivers manufactured during Cold War, it seems possible that Russia may indeed be starting to run low on rifles to issue.
>My theory is that Russia sold a shit tone of its Soviet era surplus small arms, so much in fact that they don’t have enough to arm the reserves so they’re handing out whatever the frick they haven’t sold
Im Polish and I agree with you.
My guess is it was stolen or "sold unofficially" as they like to say.
Soviets hat tones of SWDs, and yet I hardly ever see them in the war videos - and they really do need rifles with longer range in Ukraine, it's a vast flatland.
Ukrainians are remaking en masse heavy machine guns into sniper rifles for that reason, they have been doing that for years.
Pic related - every single platoon had a guy with SVD in soviet times.
They give mobiks old mosins because they literally dont have anything ealse.
Mark my words - we will soon see captured/dead vatniks with China made rifles, old copies of soviet designs.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64346971 >When Vladimir Putin announced a partial mobilisation of Russian men in September last year, it took Adam Kalinin - not his real name - a week to decide that the best thing he could do was move to the forest. >The IT specialist was against the war from the start, receiving a fine and spending two weeks in detention for sticking a poster saying "No to war" on the wall of his apartment building. >So when Russia said it was calling up 300,000 men to help turn things around in a war it was losing, Kalinin did not want to risk being sent to the front line to kill Ukrainians. >But, unlike hundreds of thousands of others, he did not want to leave the country. >Three things kept him in Russia: friends, financial constraints and an unease about abandoning what he knows. >"Leaving would have been a difficult step out of my comfort zone," Kalinin, who is in his thirties, told the BBC. "It isn't exactly comfortable here either but nevertheless, psychologically, it would be really hard to leave." >And so he took the unusual step of saying goodbye to his wife and heading for the forest, where he has lived in a tent for nearly four months. >He uses an antenna tied to a tree for internet access and solar panels for energy. >He has endured temperatures as low as -11C (12F) and exists on food supplies brought to him regularly by his wife.
>Living off-grid, he says, is the best way he can think of to avoid being called up. If the authorities can't hand him a summons in person, he can't be forced to go to war. >"If they are physically unable to take me by the hands and lead me to the enlistment office, that is a 99% defence against mobilisation or other harassment." >In some ways, Kalinin continues his life as before. He still works eight hours a day in the same job, although throughout winter - with its limited daylight - he doesn't have enough solar power to work full days and so makes up his hours on the weekend. >Some of his colleagues are now in Kazakhstan, having also left Russia after mobilisation began, but his internet connection via a long-range antenna strapped to a pine tree is reliable enough that communication is not a problem. >He is also a lover of the outdoors, spending many of his past holidays camping in southern Russia with his wife. When he made the decision to move permanently to the wilderness, he already had much of the equipment he needed. >His wife, who visited Kalinin's camp for a couple of days over the new year, plays a big role in his survival. She brings supplies every three weeks to a drop-off point where they are briefly able to see each other in person. >He then takes the supplies away to a safe place which he visits every few days to stock up. He cooks using a makeshift wood-burning stove. >"I have oats, buckwheat, tea, coffee, sugar. Not enough fresh fruit and vegetables of course, but it's not too bad," he says. >Kalinin's new home is a large tent of the type used for ice-fishing. When he first arrived in the forest, he set up two camps five minutes apart; one with internet access where he worked, the other in a more sheltered spot where he slept.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64346971 >When Vladimir Putin announced a partial mobilisation of Russian men in September last year, it took Adam Kalinin - not his real name - a week to decide that the best thing he could do was move to the forest. >The IT specialist was against the war from the start, receiving a fine and spending two weeks in detention for sticking a poster saying "No to war" on the wall of his apartment building. >So when Russia said it was calling up 300,000 men to help turn things around in a war it was losing, Kalinin did not want to risk being sent to the front line to kill Ukrainians. >But, unlike hundreds of thousands of others, he did not want to leave the country. >Three things kept him in Russia: friends, financial constraints and an unease about abandoning what he knows. >"Leaving would have been a difficult step out of my comfort zone," Kalinin, who is in his thirties, told the BBC. "It isn't exactly comfortable here either but nevertheless, psychologically, it would be really hard to leave." >And so he took the unusual step of saying goodbye to his wife and heading for the forest, where he has lived in a tent for nearly four months. >He uses an antenna tied to a tree for internet access and solar panels for energy. >He has endured temperatures as low as -11C (12F) and exists on food supplies brought to him regularly by his wife.
he's alive 3 months longer than he would have been
>If they are physically unable to take me by the hands and lead me to the enlistment office
That sure does sound more like pressganging than it does enlistment
Russia law is you have to be handed draft papers in person so lots of guys are just hiding because receiving draft orders in the mail means nothing.
And yes, if they think you'll run after getting your papers they'll arrest you on the spot and hold you until you can be sent to a base.
>Living off-grid, he says, is the best way he can think of to avoid being called up. If the authorities can't hand him a summons in person, he can't be forced to go to war. >"If they are physically unable to take me by the hands and lead me to the enlistment office, that is a 99% defence against mobilisation or other harassment." >In some ways, Kalinin continues his life as before. He still works eight hours a day in the same job, although throughout winter - with its limited daylight - he doesn't have enough solar power to work full days and so makes up his hours on the weekend. >Some of his colleagues are now in Kazakhstan, having also left Russia after mobilisation began, but his internet connection via a long-range antenna strapped to a pine tree is reliable enough that communication is not a problem. >He is also a lover of the outdoors, spending many of his past holidays camping in southern Russia with his wife. When he made the decision to move permanently to the wilderness, he already had much of the equipment he needed. >His wife, who visited Kalinin's camp for a couple of days over the new year, plays a big role in his survival. She brings supplies every three weeks to a drop-off point where they are briefly able to see each other in person. >He then takes the supplies away to a safe place which he visits every few days to stock up. He cooks using a makeshift wood-burning stove. >"I have oats, buckwheat, tea, coffee, sugar. Not enough fresh fruit and vegetables of course, but it's not too bad," he says. >Kalinin's new home is a large tent of the type used for ice-fishing. When he first arrived in the forest, he set up two camps five minutes apart; one with internet access where he worked, the other in a more sheltered spot where he slept.
I hope he and his missus randomize when and where they meet, if police get suspicious first thing they'd do is follow her
>Living off-grid, he says, is the best way he can think of to avoid being called up. If the authorities can't hand him a summons in person, he can't be forced to go to war. >"If they are physically unable to take me by the hands and lead me to the enlistment office, that is a 99% defence against mobilisation or other harassment." >In some ways, Kalinin continues his life as before. He still works eight hours a day in the same job, although throughout winter - with its limited daylight - he doesn't have enough solar power to work full days and so makes up his hours on the weekend. >Some of his colleagues are now in Kazakhstan, having also left Russia after mobilisation began, but his internet connection via a long-range antenna strapped to a pine tree is reliable enough that communication is not a problem. >He is also a lover of the outdoors, spending many of his past holidays camping in southern Russia with his wife. When he made the decision to move permanently to the wilderness, he already had much of the equipment he needed. >His wife, who visited Kalinin's camp for a couple of days over the new year, plays a big role in his survival. She brings supplies every three weeks to a drop-off point where they are briefly able to see each other in person. >He then takes the supplies away to a safe place which he visits every few days to stock up. He cooks using a makeshift wood-burning stove. >"I have oats, buckwheat, tea, coffee, sugar. Not enough fresh fruit and vegetables of course, but it's not too bad," he says. >Kalinin's new home is a large tent of the type used for ice-fishing. When he first arrived in the forest, he set up two camps five minutes apart; one with internet access where he worked, the other in a more sheltered spot where he slept.
I'll be doing what he does if shit goes down. Great wife. 8/10
You see, this is the Special Military Operation to protect the people of the Donbass. That's why the people of the Donbass get top of the line equipment and never ever get sent out on suicide attacks.
I can't find it on short notice, but I remember Girkin complaining about how proxy troops where sent on probing attacks to find Ukrainian positions so the "real" Russian troops can move in. >second line, guard duty and such
could be Ukie propaganda, but apparently this is what they told every single volunteer and mobik: "Don't worry, you won't actually see any combat, it'll be fine"
Well yeha. That's why the Donbabwe militias are by now mostly all dead and it's now the mobiks who get to be the sacrificial cannonfodder instead, alongside the penals when the penals were still alive.
>think it's best for your nation to join Russia >Russia gives you 130yo rifle for the fight
You think at that point you might realize that joining Russia isn't so great.
It’s much harder to convince a man to go blindly to his death in war if you don’t give him a weapon to clutch in his hands like a pacifier. I’d imagine that if Russia could arm their canon fodder with nothing they would, but human psychology won’t allow them to.
>that matiz
Frick me is it THAT matiz which wagner guys use to deliver ammo and food to the frontline dropoff point? I've heard some fricking legends about that thing, they had it run through mud and it would always get stuck and they'd push it. They stole it from some hohol or something.
moron NAFOshills this is only for DNR militia not Russian army
Wagner and the Russian military are armed with the best equipment money can buy
Meanwhile Oinkrainians are armed with Western scraps because the Western supplies are almost dried up
It's going to be decades before NATO can recover from this, maybe all the NAFO shills will make it easy on Russia and hang themselves before there's war
I have been telling this to yookraine shills all year long and they still don’t believe me! I told them that they will be sucking massive dicks when 2023 comes around and a new group of Russian soldiers arrives to the front after their training in Belarus. They are still in denial, like literal children
NAFOgays still have no response, likely quaking in fear over the prospect of their world being an illusion maintained by mass media and ukro propaganda. They are probably discussing it in their discord chats, seeking the best answer, but the truth is simple — Russia is winning and there is nothing they can do about it
>Wagner and the Russian military are armed with the best equipment money can buy
False. Wagner takes whatever old crap Russian MoD would give to them, and Russian MoD guys are given whatever old crap is in stock. Not that it matters at all because gunfights are less than 10% of engagements, and within that 10% only 10% of situations actually rely on your ability to hit the target, everything else is just "fire in general direction of the enemy to suppress them until they surrender or flee or someone else closes the distance". If it comes to worst and your equipment is inadequate (ANY rifle and ANY military armor is adequate, believe me) then you can simply take potshots at the enemy from cover while someone else does the heavy lifting.
Getting your butthole reamed by enemy arty from anywhere between 2 and 15 miles away. In which case neither your gun nor your armor mean diddly dick - you win these exchanges by digging good foxholes.
>everyone who doesn't unconditionally paints Russia as all-around superior is a samegay
Black person pls. I'm just being realistic here. I was there, I saw it. I was issued a rifle with a sight canted all the way to the bottom-right (I could still hit a large coin at 100yds range with it).
Also, bakelite AK mags are GOAT. Frick plastic and especially frick steel.
Wagnerites have been filmed with rusty, dirty ass AKMs and I'm betting you have no proof of depleting western supplies. Also stop replying to your own post 20 fricking times Ivan.
My guess is because they had an influx of people in the Donbass with the conscription, so they temporarily gave units what they had on hand before the Russians could supply more small arms.
Because it is a rather impressive rifle considering when it was built, which wars it was used in and the fact that it is still at least partially relevant today. There aren't many other weapons with as long and venerable a service life.
Are these actual 'sniperised' mosins or are they getting 8 MOA?
Op has the sniper bolt but who knows if it's an actual accurised rifle.
you would probably getter better marksman rifle by putting a PSO on an Ak-74 otherwise.
For teh lulz of course
Same reason the US dug out old M14s. Need to hit shit far away, intermediate rifle is bad at that. Difference is the Soviets never had a battle rifle phase in the same way we did so they had to go back further to get anything in quantity.
That’s what the SVD was for though
Not enough of them. The US had a ton of M14s since we thought giving everyone one was a good idea. The Soviets didn't do that.
a semiautomatic a battle rifle for squad or platoon DMR is a bit different, these are being mass issued
Source?
My theory is that Russia sold a shit tone of its Soviet era surplus small arms, so much in fact that they don’t have enough to arm the reserves so they’re handing out whatever the frick they haven’t sold that’s still lying around in armories, that being mosins and rusted through AKMs l
>russia sold
Not quite.
>Not quite
You do realize that the scene was filmed in Czech republic, not in Russia and the rifles seen in that photo are actually vz. 58?
I am not the anon that you replied, but considering how many rifles former Soviet states exported since fall of Soviet Union, how large their internal security forces are and how even much of "new" exported rifles seem to have receivers manufactured during Cold War, it seems possible that Russia may indeed be starting to run low on rifles to issue.
>My theory is that Russia sold a shit tone of its Soviet era surplus small arms, so much in fact that they don’t have enough to arm the reserves so they’re handing out whatever the frick they haven’t sold
Im Polish and I agree with you.
My guess is it was stolen or "sold unofficially" as they like to say.
Soviets hat tones of SWDs, and yet I hardly ever see them in the war videos - and they really do need rifles with longer range in Ukraine, it's a vast flatland.
Ukrainians are remaking en masse heavy machine guns into sniper rifles for that reason, they have been doing that for years.
Pic related - every single platoon had a guy with SVD in soviet times.
They give mobiks old mosins because they literally dont have anything ealse.
Mark my words - we will soon see captured/dead vatniks with China made rifles, old copies of soviet designs.
Makes sense, but why did they keep the 80yo PU scopes? Fricking Chinese pellet gun scopes beat them hollow.
I don't think you understand what role M14's were palying.
At least m14s have more than 5 rounds
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64346971
>When Vladimir Putin announced a partial mobilisation of Russian men in September last year, it took Adam Kalinin - not his real name - a week to decide that the best thing he could do was move to the forest.
>The IT specialist was against the war from the start, receiving a fine and spending two weeks in detention for sticking a poster saying "No to war" on the wall of his apartment building.
>So when Russia said it was calling up 300,000 men to help turn things around in a war it was losing, Kalinin did not want to risk being sent to the front line to kill Ukrainians.
>But, unlike hundreds of thousands of others, he did not want to leave the country.
>Three things kept him in Russia: friends, financial constraints and an unease about abandoning what he knows.
>"Leaving would have been a difficult step out of my comfort zone," Kalinin, who is in his thirties, told the BBC. "It isn't exactly comfortable here either but nevertheless, psychologically, it would be really hard to leave."
>And so he took the unusual step of saying goodbye to his wife and heading for the forest, where he has lived in a tent for nearly four months.
>He uses an antenna tied to a tree for internet access and solar panels for energy.
>He has endured temperatures as low as -11C (12F) and exists on food supplies brought to him regularly by his wife.
>Living off-grid, he says, is the best way he can think of to avoid being called up. If the authorities can't hand him a summons in person, he can't be forced to go to war.
>"If they are physically unable to take me by the hands and lead me to the enlistment office, that is a 99% defence against mobilisation or other harassment."
>In some ways, Kalinin continues his life as before. He still works eight hours a day in the same job, although throughout winter - with its limited daylight - he doesn't have enough solar power to work full days and so makes up his hours on the weekend.
>Some of his colleagues are now in Kazakhstan, having also left Russia after mobilisation began, but his internet connection via a long-range antenna strapped to a pine tree is reliable enough that communication is not a problem.
>He is also a lover of the outdoors, spending many of his past holidays camping in southern Russia with his wife. When he made the decision to move permanently to the wilderness, he already had much of the equipment he needed.
>His wife, who visited Kalinin's camp for a couple of days over the new year, plays a big role in his survival. She brings supplies every three weeks to a drop-off point where they are briefly able to see each other in person. >He then takes the supplies away to a safe place which he visits every few days to stock up. He cooks using a makeshift wood-burning stove.
>"I have oats, buckwheat, tea, coffee, sugar. Not enough fresh fruit and vegetables of course, but it's not too bad," he says.
>Kalinin's new home is a large tent of the type used for ice-fishing. When he first arrived in the forest, he set up two camps five minutes apart; one with internet access where he worked, the other in a more sheltered spot where he slept.
he's alive 3 months longer than he would have been
His tent looks comfier than a mobik hole, too.
>If they are physically unable to take me by the hands and lead me to the enlistment office
That sure does sound more like pressganging than it does enlistment
Russia law is you have to be handed draft papers in person so lots of guys are just hiding because receiving draft orders in the mail means nothing.
And yes, if they think you'll run after getting your papers they'll arrest you on the spot and hold you until you can be sent to a base.
I hope he and his missus randomize when and where they meet, if police get suspicious first thing they'd do is follow her
I doubt russian cops could be bothered to do that.
I'll be doing what he does if shit goes down. Great wife. 8/10
mostly seems to be the pro-russian seperatists
www2: German encirclement number 112: recolorized
You see, this is the Special Military Operation to protect the people of the Donbass. That's why the people of the Donbass get top of the line equipment and never ever get sent out on suicide attacks.
>RUshills insisting that Donbas poor fricking infantry is only for the "second line, guard duty and such"
>mfw they sent them to Mariupol
I can't find it on short notice, but I remember Girkin complaining about how proxy troops where sent on probing attacks to find Ukrainian positions so the "real" Russian troops can move in.
>second line, guard duty and such
could be Ukie propaganda, but apparently this is what they told every single volunteer and mobik: "Don't worry, you won't actually see any combat, it'll be fine"
Well yeha. That's why the Donbabwe militias are by now mostly all dead and it's now the mobiks who get to be the sacrificial cannonfodder instead, alongside the penals when the penals were still alive.
>think it's best for your nation to join Russia
>Russia gives you 130yo rifle for the fight
You think at that point you might realize that joining Russia isn't so great.
a Loncin 3-wheel flatbed cargo motorcycle with a PM M1910
that makes some sense the unscoped mosins don't
It’s much harder to convince a man to go blindly to his death in war if you don’t give him a weapon to clutch in his hands like a pacifier. I’d imagine that if Russia could arm their canon fodder with nothing they would, but human psychology won’t allow them to.
why hasn't there been an anime anthro -chan done for this like the other vehicles
>that matiz
Frick me is it THAT matiz which wagner guys use to deliver ammo and food to the frontline dropoff point? I've heard some fricking legends about that thing, they had it run through mud and it would always get stuck and they'd push it. They stole it from some hohol or something.
I'm wondering why they just don't give them an SVD but it's probably personal preference or for Red Army LARP reasons
moron NAFOshills this is only for DNR militia not Russian army
Wagner and the Russian military are armed with the best equipment money can buy
Meanwhile Oinkrainians are armed with Western scraps because the Western supplies are almost dried up
It's going to be decades before NATO can recover from this, maybe all the NAFO shills will make it easy on Russia and hang themselves before there's war
Hohol shills will just continue to squeal and repost the same images over and over again, don't bother
/k/opers love to deny reality, it's the only way they can get updoots on reddit
Finally, a sensible post
Anon you just dropped truthbombs and all NAFO can do is seethe
I have been telling this to yookraine shills all year long and they still don’t believe me! I told them that they will be sucking massive dicks when 2023 comes around and a new group of Russian soldiers arrives to the front after their training in Belarus. They are still in denial, like literal children
Holy shit /k/eddit BTFO
Based truth-poster
Oinkrainians absolutely seething ITT, excellent post
NAFOgays still have no response, likely quaking in fear over the prospect of their world being an illusion maintained by mass media and ukro propaganda. They are probably discussing it in their discord chats, seeking the best answer, but the truth is simple — Russia is winning and there is nothing they can do about it
newbies can't handle the truth that the hohols are getting slaughtered wholesale in Bakhmut, the war is almost over. Tick tock piggies
Piggers are finished
Slavabros, we won
All the shills got real quiet after this was posted, maybe they will finally stay in reddit
What’s up with this post? Are these bots? /k/ommandos trolling? I am very concerned.
Go back shill, /k/ is has always been pro-Russia
R*ddit can't handle oldgays truthposting, keep squealing piggie
More hohol crying, seethe harder
Keep trying to bury the truth, NAFOcuck, oldgays won't fall for it
Just the same guy posting on his own comments, just watch and don’t engage. Just enjoy the spastic show
Its just ironic shitposting laddie
It's a samegay Ivan
Hoholsissies, not like this...
>Wagner and the Russian military are armed with the best equipment money can buy
False. Wagner takes whatever old crap Russian MoD would give to them, and Russian MoD guys are given whatever old crap is in stock. Not that it matters at all because gunfights are less than 10% of engagements, and within that 10% only 10% of situations actually rely on your ability to hit the target, everything else is just "fire in general direction of the enemy to suppress them until they surrender or flee or someone else closes the distance". If it comes to worst and your equipment is inadequate (ANY rifle and ANY military armor is adequate, believe me) then you can simply take potshots at the enemy from cover while someone else does the heavy lifting.
t. merc
whats the other 90% of engagements
Getting your butthole reamed by enemy arty from anywhere between 2 and 15 miles away. In which case neither your gun nor your armor mean diddly dick - you win these exchanges by digging good foxholes.
samegay
>everyone who doesn't unconditionally paints Russia as all-around superior is a samegay
Black person pls. I'm just being realistic here. I was there, I saw it. I was issued a rifle with a sight canted all the way to the bottom-right (I could still hit a large coin at 100yds range with it).
Also, bakelite AK mags are GOAT. Frick plastic and especially frick steel.
>everyone who doesn't unconditionally paints Russia as all-around superior is a samegay
Yes, go back shill, /k/ is a pro-Russia board
I'll believe it when I see it. Right now I mostly see the legacy of the armatard.
Look at the thread cuck, pro-Russian Gokubros outnumber you. /k/ will always be pro-Russia
>50 replies
>16 posters
Yeah I dunno G.
NAFO has absolutely no response except impotent seething LMAO
Holy moly NAFO troons BTFO
Slava Z
Wagnerites have been filmed with rusty, dirty ass AKMs and I'm betting you have no proof of depleting western supplies. Also stop replying to your own post 20 fricking times Ivan.
saved
Same reason Germanys staying out of this, the rest of Europoor is perma fricking its trade relations and supplies. Dumb fricks.
So we can all just run a wire up a tall pine tree in order to get free internet services eh?
Because either rear troops or LDNR can't afford anything else for prescision fire. For the price of civilian SVD you can buy two civilian M91/30s
My guess is because they had an influx of people in the Donbass with the conscription, so they temporarily gave units what they had on hand before the Russians could supply more small arms.
Because it is a rather impressive rifle considering when it was built, which wars it was used in and the fact that it is still at least partially relevant today. There aren't many other weapons with as long and venerable a service life.
Are these actual 'sniperised' mosins or are they getting 8 MOA?
Op has the sniper bolt but who knows if it's an actual accurised rifle.
you would probably getter better marksman rifle by putting a PSO on an Ak-74 otherwise.
Those AKs would have to be available, however.
Here's a treat for everyone ITT.
just noticed the Kirza ammunition pouch, what a soul loadout.
>scope ready mosin
want
Traditions
Thank you for the 500th Ukraine thread homosexual post your guns or gtfo