Russia will win if Ukraine loses, westoids will never concede this being the truth.
If russia does not win, it will lose
If ukraine does not lose, it will win.
Note that these statements are NOT equivalent.
Basically, russia is fricked, and was fricked from the very beginning.
>"He [Napoleon] proclaims that the Kremlin, arsenal, stores, everything is destroyed; that now Moscow is nothing more than a heap of rubble, an impure and unhealthy cesspool, without political and military importance."
Spot on even after centuries
I honestly sympathise with the Serbs, despite the best efforts of most of their posters to be shitflinging morons.
They genuinely got fricked sideways over Kosovo independence and the MonteBlack independence referendum. They had overthrown Milosevic, moved towards the West and were talking with the Kosovars. This was while Serbs were pogromed in 2004 in Kosovo, the Montenegran President started to pass laws to screw over the Serb Orthodox Church. Then in a complete break from international norm, the West decides to recognise a unilateral independence declaration for the Kosovars, writing decades of Russian propaganda. They didn't recognise Kurdistan's independence despite their receiving a far worse genocide than the Kosovars did. No blame on the Kosovars for getting one over, but the way Serbia got treated in the late 00s by the West was downright sadistic. Makes total sense to me that they'd sympathise with Russia.
My sympathy is then tempered by Serbs complaining that NATO's tard wrangling them in the 90s was annudah Shoah.
All sides in the Balkans were moronic and genocidal. But Serbia tried aggressively to keep an empire past it's due date and aggressively went against western interests.
Morally they were as bad as the next people, but they were also seething morons diplomatically.
With proper diplomacy and a will to compromise with non-Serbs they could have kept MonteBlack at least.
Nah frick that.As a romanian i admire the Serbian spirit,we compromised with Russia and Ukraine and lost territories forever.
We should've at least fought for them.
The ideal balkan mindset is the Serbilioner sigma grind-set,you either get to genocide all the invaders(yes this includes the women and children)or you get genocided yourself.
There should be no compromise when it comes to your fatherland.
This is why what the US did was especially homosexual,they should've left the war run its course even if it took 50 years,let gods will be done.
>We should've at least fought for them.
What do you mean by that? Not doing shit about Besarabia after the collapse of the USSR? Because you did do shit about them in WW2.
For the Serbs their war to fight over a hillside and some barns was the most important thing in their lives, but for me it was gun camera footage from a smart bomb I watched on a tv in Hardees during a quick breakfast before school.
maybe read up on the war record of those morons who thought shooting 80yo grandmas is brave - literally lost every battle where the enemy had firearms - even if they themselves had tanks and artillery. >There should be no compromise when it comes to your fatherland.
and that's how you lose 30% of "your territory" and over 30% of your citizens to economic migration. if the serbs continue "being based" they'll make it to 50% pretty soon. >As a romanian i admire the Serbian
jesus, that sentence is just so pitiful.
>The ideal balkan mindset is the Serbilioner sigma grind-set,you either get to genocide all the invaders(yes this includes the women and children)or you get genocided yourself.
Man, I dream that NATO would have just had the balls to exterminate each and every Serbian wienerroach from the world.
What empire? Serbs were variously conquered by Turks and conquered by Austrians. They got independence, then lost it by autistically poking Austria. And while they had a better showing thanks to Austria's early incompetence, Austria still conquered them.
The whole Yugoslavia thing was a cluster and Croat autism extremely bad. The problem is that the Serbs' losing to Croats and Austrians just made them decide to bully Albanians and Bosnians the same way, the kid who gets bullied and so becomes a bully against even smaller kids.
A sense of proportion is a sign of actual intelligence, you know. Yeah, the Bosnians and Croats did some murdering. But the Serbs did more and that makes them worse.
If they were tards in the 1990s, then they were tards in 1890s, in the 1690s and they will be tards in the 2090s. Do you think people change in the space of 10 years? Some people will always be subhuman, like the vatnigs, israelites, Black folk and chinks.
I honestly sympathise with the Serbs, despite the best efforts of most of their posters to be shitflinging morons.
They genuinely got fricked sideways over Kosovo independence and the MonteBlack independence referendum. They had overthrown Milosevic, moved towards the West and were talking with the Kosovars. This was while Serbs were pogromed in 2004 in Kosovo, the Montenegran President started to pass laws to screw over the Serb Orthodox Church. Then in a complete break from international norm, the West decides to recognise a unilateral independence declaration for the Kosovars, writing decades of Russian propaganda. They didn't recognise Kurdistan's independence despite their receiving a far worse genocide than the Kosovars did. No blame on the Kosovars for getting one over, but the way Serbia got treated in the late 00s by the West was downright sadistic. Makes total sense to me that they'd sympathise with Russia.
My sympathy is then tempered by Serbs complaining that NATO's tard wrangling them in the 90s was annudah Shoah.
I'll be willing to rethink my treatment of Serbs when they stop stirring shit and start being normal.
They started 4 wars in 8 years, against countries with no formal military and lost 3.
And they actually have the gall to consider themselves the victims.
Good news is the worst enemy to a Serb is another Serbs, so don't expect them to unfrick their society anytime this century. Literally a mafia dictatorship.
Serbia is the author of their own misfortunes, Kosovo would likely have gone differently if they hadn't already engaged in genocide due to Serbian imperial irredentism. Just like the Germans in Prussia (or Alsace Lorraine) getting fricked over by post-war peace settlements, that is what happens when you frick around. If we let everyone get away with shit then everyone would do it.
Kosovo: Serbs in Kosovo had become a minority and Kosovo had already declared their independence in 1990. Any further efforts to legitimize their separation were going to be violently opposed by Serbia just like Croatia and Bosnia. You can't fault the Albanians for being unable to make further efforts to legalize their separation when Serbia kept trying to keep it part of Serbia by threats and force by using the Yugoslav Army and Serbian police. Regardless, Serbia was never going to recognize any independence referendum anyway. We had already gone through Croatia 1.0, Bosnia 2.0, and now were expecting Kosovo 3.0. Albanians had every right to expect the same and start arming themselves and rebelling. All Serbia had to do was organize a legitimate referendum to resolve the issue (or agree to the Rambouillet Agreement) but they refused. Then you had the Serbs doing things like the Prekaz massacre which tipped the scale. The didn't want another massacre. If the world hadn't recognized Kosovo and intervened, the Serbs were just going to start another round of ethnic cleansing, 100%.
MonteBlack: They had an 85+% turnout on the referendum and they voted to leave. You can't get any clearer than that.
Serbs, like Russians, should spend more effort at making people WANT to be part of their bullshit country. They're like ugly rapists who can't get laid so they grab women in parks.
>Serbs, like Russians, should spend more effort at making people WANT to be part of their bullshit country. They're like ugly rapists who can't get laid so they grab women in parks.
This is what it comes down to. At the end of the day a super majority of a sizable population and area hates you and wants to leave you're going to have a bad time. Sure you can use force, and depending on the circumstances may well win of course. But if you decide to settle things with violence and mass slaughter, it's hard to then turn on the crocodile tears if anyone else decides to intervene with force too and you're too weak.
Also >All Serbia had to do was organize a legitimate referendum to resolve the issue (or agree to the Rambouillet Agreement) but they refused.
Hell they could have done what many countries have done to stick together and gotten more federalized, grant more autonymy to regions with respect to local law/customs while still being part of one overall nation. Then people can vote with their feet and contribute to things like common defense and freedom of travel and so on and get along, rather then having everything be centrally controlled and homogenized.
But of course authoritarians can't stand that either.
The stupid thing about all of it is that even as late as '89 Slovenia didn't even want to leave Yugoslavia but simply a less unfair division of tax income and a bit more economic autonomy. As late as '91 people in Sarajevo were singing "we'll guard Yugoslavia with our lives" - but by this point the Serbs had shizoed themselves into a me-vs-everyone-else mentality that they started doing pic related
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Nah frick that.As a romanian i admire the Serbian spirit,we compromised with Russia and Ukraine and lost territories forever.
We should've at least fought for them.
The ideal balkan mindset is the Serbilioner sigma grind-set,you either get to genocide all the invaders(yes this includes the women and children)or you get genocided yourself.
There should be no compromise when it comes to your fatherland.
This is why what the US did was especially homosexual,they should've left the war run its course even if it took 50 years,let gods will be done.
: with predictable results. It's ridicolous how much goodwill Serbia wasted with its neighbors over larping as a great empire.
Even the irredentism problem in Kosovo could have been avoided if 90% of government jobs (and in Socialism that's pretty much all jobs) didn't go to the 40% of Serbs living in Kosovo.
I guess the lesson is that if you want to reap the benefits of being at the reigns of a large multi-ethnic federation that disproportionately favors you - it's not a bad idea to show some, if not magnanimity, then at least basic fairness. Also if you're constantly seeing conspiracies you'll start conspiring against everyone - and then everyone will actually start conspiring against you in turn.
That's a non-responsive answer. Why should anyone want to live under Serbia who isn't Serb?
Balkanoids fighting over who is the roachest when your only accomplishments are fratricide is hilarious. Not even Tito could prevent you from going full African after he died.
They lived in Yugoslavia and only because it served there interests otherwise they would of been Italian clay, after the eastern bloc fell they jumped ships.
This is the level of intelligence of your average Serb. They get confronted with a list of their failings and instead of a detailed well reasoned response we get "moron". Why do you think Taliban are smuggling themselves into Europe after "winning"? Why do you think that Vietnam has the highest opinion of the USA of any nation in Asia? Why do you think Japan and Germany never rebelled? Because life is better. We have Freedom. Clean water. Flushing toilets (LOL). We have low crime. Social security. Jobs. Technology. We leave one another alone.
Until Russians and Serbs realize that they have create a functioning nation state for anyone to willingly be part of their world they will have an inevitable expiration date for their entire society
but moron, he is not seething
man you must be a smart and interesting person
1 year ago
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/k/ is an echo chamber this is a place for bullying not serious discussion dumbie lmao
1 year ago
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>internet community is an echo chamber
I guarantee that you somehow, for some reason believe you're better off for knowing this. Great opinion never before formed by every redditor
1 year ago
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k is reddit/nafo spooks incarnate
1 year ago
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>incarnate
oh, r*ssian shills are learning proper english now
1 year ago
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>MY echo chamber GOOD >YOUR echo chamber BAD
How original
1 year ago
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everywhere in the world outside of pol and russia itself will feel like an echo chamber to you, anon. I'll leave it up to you to figure out why.
1 year ago
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no. this place still has serious threads poppoing once in a while. and frick, if you compare /k/ to /misc/, it even looks like a fricking encyclopedia. perspective matters, I guess
1 year ago
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Pol's schizo tendencies unironically make it less of an echo chamber then >Look at this gun dooood >Orcs are dying in Soledar
1 year ago
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Someday I know for a fact you'll realize what you just said isn't remotely true, and I have no investment in your opinion until that point
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I'm not european so this image has no emotional impact
1 year ago
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Why would you admit such a self-own
1 year ago
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>Rambling about nothing.
You proved his point.
1 year ago
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I am supposed to know who these people are?
1 year ago
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>man you must be a smart and interesting person
Wow epic insult, moron.
>All Serbia had to do was organize a legitimate referendum to resolve the issue
If serbia organized referendum in Vojvodina in '90 they would lose that too
>They genuinely got fricked sideways over Kosovo independence
Try to genocide your own citizens - they get to leave the country. How is that unfair?
>MonteBlack independence referendum
MonteBlack was not a part of Serbia but in a confederation with it - they legally left that confederation via referendum.
>They had overthrown Milosevic
And then the guy who replaced him got assassinated and Milosevices protege took over - and still rules.
>Serbs were pogromed in 2004
Really? For how many years did the Kosovars shell Mitrovica? How many forced labour and rape camps did the Kosovars set up? Was all private property owned by Serbs seized via state mandate? Serbs are the last people on earth who should fling around words like progrom.
>Montenegran President started to pass laws to screw over the Serb Orthodox Church
Yeah, not getting to arbitrarily hold huge swaths of public land like it's the 15th century is "getting screwed."
>Then in a complete break from international norm... >go around attacking all your neighbors for 10 years going all "frick laws and basic decency, might rules" and "god is a serb" >b***h and moan about "inernational norms" when you get a tiny taste of your own medicine
pathetic
>Try to genocide your own citizens - they get to leave the country. How is that unfair?
Kosovars weren't genocided - NATO bombing stopped the Serbs before they started. Kurds actually were genocided by Saddam yet their UDI wasn't recognised. If the Kosovars get it, why can't the Kurds? Why can't Abkhazia say 'we got persectuted, therefore out independence is okay?'
>MonteBlack was not a part of Serbia but in a confederation with it - they legally left that confederation via referendum.
All ex-Yugo countries required a 66% supermajority for leaving, not 55%. That's ignoring the evidence of voter fraud.
>And then the guy who replaced him got assassinated and Milosevices protege took over - and still rules.
The Pro-Milosevic groups were emboldened by an absolute go-nowhere rapproachment with the West that cut the legs off the Pro-West Serbs.
>Blahblahblah
None of that is what a pogrom is.
>Yeah, not getting to arbitrarily hold huge swaths of public land like it's the 15th century is "getting screwed."
They 'arbitrarily hold it' by means of being there in one spot for centuries - if they started grabbing mosques on the same logic there would be outcry.
>"You be bad to ah ansestahs so we bad to u"
Are we all fricking Black folk on this board now?
Pistorius' swearing in speech included him LITERALLY stating that all Europe is at war and Russia must be made to lose no matter the cost. He's literally not giving a single flying frick about Schold and the dove win of the SPD.
I honestly sympathise with the Serbs, despite the best efforts of most of their posters to be shitflinging morons.
They genuinely got fricked sideways over Kosovo independence and the MonteBlack independence referendum. They had overthrown Milosevic, moved towards the West and were talking with the Kosovars. This was while Serbs were pogromed in 2004 in Kosovo, the Montenegran President started to pass laws to screw over the Serb Orthodox Church. Then in a complete break from international norm, the West decides to recognise a unilateral independence declaration for the Kosovars, writing decades of Russian propaganda. They didn't recognise Kurdistan's independence despite their receiving a far worse genocide than the Kosovars did. No blame on the Kosovars for getting one over, but the way Serbia got treated in the late 00s by the West was downright sadistic. Makes total sense to me that they'd sympathise with Russia.
My sympathy is then tempered by Serbs complaining that NATO's tard wrangling them in the 90s was annudah Shoah.
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I'll be willing to rethink my treatment of Serbs when they stop stirring shit and start being normal.
Big if true (which might be, considering Vučić declared some days ago that Donbas is Ukrainian)
They started 4 wars in 8 years, against countries with no formal military and lost 3.
And they actually have the gall to consider themselves the victims.
Good news is the worst enemy to a Serb is another Serbs, so don't expect them to unfrick their society anytime this century. Literally a mafia dictatorship.
Serbia has been neutral/west leaning for a long time now, people act so surprised every time they see Serbia act against Russia. Serbia never recognized Donbass meme republics, condemned Russian invasion immediately, and have forbidden citizens from joining the war (this disproportionately hurts Russians). Worst thing they do is beg Russia for weapons occasionally (and hell, this is kind of a good thing).
Yes, Kosovo was a stupid mistake from the west, Europe created a corrupt narco state near it, and made a lot of people angry around the world, but things are improving, the path to reconciliation is there, and it progress is being made on EU integration. New generations don't care that much about Kosovo or Bosnia, they just want to forget and move on.
>Which brown country are you from?
The US.
Can you frick off to Europe already?
By the way, white people moving someplace two hundred years ago doesn't make that white people's land.
I'm glad whites got butchered in south Africa.
Stay in Europe, gay.
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You Black person slaves kill your own kind all day long and will always cower to your slave masters as they laugh at you.
Russians are also the bad guys since they have literal israelite oligarchs and have floded their country with churka muslims.
Lets face it there are no good guys in any governments the israelites won. We are either going to rise up and fight for ourselfs or we will go quietly into the night.
Simple as.
What a dog shit take. Saddam was an American lapdog that invaded Iran under their orders and used chemical weapons on civvies on their behalf and got what he deserved in the end. Stop being moronic please.
>attack a smaller country in a naked war for territory >manage to make this small country known for corruption look like an incorruptable beacon of light because your country is so fricked up >sacrifice men by the thousands to gain territory by the square meter >LOSE A FRICKING PIECE OF THE TRUE CROSS
Russia could not be more stereotypically evil
to make this small country known for corruption look like an incorruptable beacon of light because your country is so fricked up
Russians are physically unable to comprehend this
this.
Putin literally gave ukrops their founding myth, i mean even if by some miracle he decisively won the war tomorrow morning - ukrainians already have their Alamo, their Talvisota, their Easter Rebellion - win or lose, what we are seeing is a very literal nationbuilding myth in progress.
If it's any consolation, it's not unlikely that the piece of the true cross was switched with a chunk of driftwood for vodka money
I suggest checking Shoigu's wood collection
They all leave because they can't be arsed to deal with the bullshit that is Indian bureaucracy and the hardcore spastics who take the caste system seriously.
>Last time everyone teamed up on the bad guy they ended up being the good ones all along.
Well, I don't know what you mean by "ended up", since the US, UK and France were always the good guys, not just after WW2 / Korean War / Desert Storm but yeah, sure, you're right.
Last time western Europe had teamed up against the East was when international SS divisions were formed, you massive /misc/Black person subhuman.
I swear, that fricking board is negative IQ at this point.
>We want to wage war against the USSR! >Proceeds to ally with them, and then wage war against Poland, Norway, Denmark, France, Great Britain, Holland, Belgium, Greece...
only Hungary.
Austria is neutral and not in NATO
Switzerland is neither in EU nor in NATO and neutral too
Germany is one of the biggest donors to Ukraine contrary to the fake news that /k/ homosexuals keep regurgitating.
Correct this. Switzerland SHOULD sell to all sides of the conflict. No exemptions. We got wares if you have coin. But noooo homosexual Fröntler wish for the Anschluss and we must "play nice". Day of the rope when?
True about Germany but let's face the facts you aint taking the lead for supplying something good like MBT and so on you are always have to be ether third or even last due your chancler is ether a coward who is afraid to take the lead or allergic to important decisions and just want to go to status quo or has to be shown the way like a blind man without the stick
VC Rhinos are truly a wunderwaffe. >can be operated by 1 untrained person and be at 100% effectiveness >destroys most vehicles by a simple tap >light enough to cross any bridge >fully airdroppable and can fly under it's own power
the fact that they're sending ALL of the ones they have is also a big propaganda/morale factor - 'look, denmark sent x, why are you being a b***h and whining about not being able to do it?'
"Destroyed" tanks and SPGs can be fixed by the way, which is why both sides of the visually confirmed losses aren't absolutely perfect, as some can be used to fix others. Unless they get fully burnt out if course
We should make this a yearly thing. A holiday were all Yuros get together, drink, have fun and frick up russians. That would be some European unity right there.
It'd be funnier if part of the game was trying to sneak as many gypsies into Russia as possible to see how much stuff they can bring back with them on the return trip.
I would pay good money to see them trying to sneak an entire oil rig or half of Uralvagonzavod across the border without the Rooskies noticing.
What are the chances Russia retaliates with terrorist attacks done by their glow Black folk?
I'm afraid Putin will either nuke or do some stupid shit like that
He might, but the rockets won't fly because the FSB rather sell monkeman out than sign their own nuclear holocaust. Monke might not care about his own life at this point but a lot of important people do
It seems like the dam has finally broken. All that's left is for the krauts and burgers to finally cave on MBTs and Ukraine will finally start getting all it needs for new armored divisions that Russia has no counter to.
I think most people in today's world would object to their countries spending 80% of their GDP on military adventures and largely prestige project imperialism. The wagaries of the modern world and it's relatively powerless governments.
>muh glogohobo
Why is that in 99% of cases when someone uses this word, he is also a total fricking cretin?
Your whole globohomosexual meme is mostly a Russian invention, Russian-israeli if you want to specific. They have been the ones who created it and they are also the ones who has been supporting and funding it for decades. Russia IS the original globohomosexual you stupid illiterate /misc/Black person trash.
I can see it playing out before me already, like rich kids trying to flex about how much they can throw away.
>"We'll send a third of our Archers! We're not using all of them anyway." >"Oh yeah? We'll send ALL our Ceasars! Make an effort!" >"Laaame, we seem to have misplaced a hundred or so CV90's, I wonder where they went." >"Sure bro, but did you know two dozen Leopards just went missing the other day? Even the crews are gone, wonder where they went!" >"That's nothing! You know what? We're missing some Gripens all of a sudden, how unfortunate!"
Finland is sending 400 million worth of equipment to Ukraine, Finnish Ministery of Defense statement says.
So far they have sent 11 shipments worth around 190 million, so this latest batch is pretty considerable increase. Finland rarely gets mentioned in international press about helping Ukraine because Finland does not clarify what exactly is being sent. This is for OPSEC reasons, and usually these statements come only after the shipment has been made. Finns like to keep it hush-hush.
But considering Finland has only 5 million people (there are cities with more population and bigger budgets than the entire Finland), so far it is over a solid half-a-billion worth of help for Ukies.
Because frick Russia.
I think the secrecy behind Finnish shipments is the best part. It´s fun to speculate what we´re sending and then seeing it afterwards in some pictures.
I´d imagine there are no more Gvozdikas or Pions in Finland anymore.
>pretty much every military on the continent today exists specifically to fight Russia, with no real risk of getting in any other conflict any time soon >every bit of damage dealt to Russia's military right now will require additional time and money for them to recover from >donating equipment therefore not only aids Ukraine's defense, but delays further belligerence from Russia at far less cost to themselves than fighting them directly
Not necessarily one or the other. These deliveries are meant to support a future offensive, nothing more. I don't think the next offensive will be the end of the war, regardless of whose offensive it is and how well/bad it goes.
The war is in attrition phase and will remain there for quite some time. Ukraine is burning through soviet legacy equipment while gradually transitioning to western made stuff.
One of the reasons why there is political maneuvering around who is going to send tanks and how many is the fact that many of them will be destroyed and there is not enough production capacity at this time to replenish expected losses. Western tanks might be better individually than their Russian counterparts. High intensity warfare will still burn a lot of them. The idea that there won’t be massive losses in equipment is absurd.
Maybe, but one also has to consider that there's significantly less Russian tanks than before, way less trained personnel for them and also way less people who can train others on them.
I guess this burst of military gear came out of nowhere just now to basically build Ukraine up so it can qualitatively defeat Russia over the next year when all that stuff hits the front.
Why not send more HIMARS? The ~40 they have so far have changed the course of the war. Imagine if they had enough to not only suppress Russian supply lines, but also for tactical use with cluster bombs etc.
probably just nato countries getting bored of the war. Maybe they hoped that if the war goes on for long enough Russia will just frick off and declare themselves the winners. But since vatniks just keep going at it they now decided to up the ante.
The war is in attrition phase and will remain there for quite some time. Ukraine is burning through soviet legacy equipment while gradually transitioning to western made stuff.
One of the reasons why there is political maneuvering around who is going to send tanks and how many is the fact that many of them will be destroyed and there is not enough production capacity at this time to replenish expected losses. Western tanks might be better individually than their Russian counterparts. High intensity warfare will still burn a lot of them. The idea that there won’t be massive losses in equipment is absurd.
Not necessarily one or the other. These deliveries are meant to support a future offensive, nothing more. I don't think the next offensive will be the end of the war, regardless of whose offensive it is and how well/bad it goes.
Putin has to be feeling pressure at this point...assuming he isnt dead
Binkov claims that if the ukies push south and reach the sea of Azov then the war is over but he's a literal Russian puppet so I won't blame you for taking that with a grain of salt.
150+ western IFVs is definitely the kind of numbers that would let them pull it off if they decide to try
Europe decides to frick Russia up >Isn't it wonderful?
You have to understand that Pootin had to attack Ukraine or whole Europe decided to frick Russia up.
This is about money you fricked up moron bigger homosexuals. They send expensive shit then go oh wow guess we have to order more. The entire war is about defense contracts. Everything is always about money and power, Black folk. Frick off.
>Everything is always about money and power, Black folk. Frick off.
Damn. That's some deep shit my brother. Really made me think.
I love putin now and understand the necessity of punishing your subordinates through forced anal penetration.
Russia claimed another nation has no right to exist and invaded, he's the reason military budgets around the world have drastically increased in the last year. >b-but went sent things
We are mostly sending old shit that has been or is in the process of being replaced and we are claiming the brand new manufacture cost while doing so.
I have a 20yo ute with 240,000 km on it, I paid $16k for it band new in 2002 and adjusted for inflation that's ~$24k. Imagine I give you my ute and then say I gave you $24k worth of gear, this is what is happening.
>We
EU is donating stuff.
Only US is smart enough to loan.
Tho not sure what's actually being paid. Those manufacture costs are likely only in the media.
Why would Denmark need those anyway. Nobody wants to invade them, Germany isn't even sovereign only the USA is eying Greenland but those howitzers won't help them there anyway.
Not really. Artillery was actually phased out completely in the danish military in 2014 only to be brought back again in '19. The artillery brigade is not even functional yet. Most of the caesars are in France and have not been delivered to Denmark. They will be delivered to Ukraine now instead. The danish "defence" is not really constructed to defend Denmark. Its not a military as much as its a mechanized infantry brigade with some f16s. The whole thing with fire missions is provided by the US when ever the danish military does anything.
Not Belgium though. They claim to be on Ukraine's side instead of neutral, but haven't given shit.
Belgium has a large defense industry so all this bullshit about their military not having inventory is just misdirection.
Nothing like leaving NATO's Eastern European front grossly undefended while concentrating all your armor on a pointless proxy fight in israelitekraine. Tactical genius shit here. It would be funny if they were stacking the deck of ww3 for Russia to get a good head start, you know make for a sporting battle on TV. Then the US will be forced to call up The Draft and ship armor to Europe for ww3 and a comeback epic victory. screenshot it
Most of Russia's invasion-capable vehicles are blown out husks in Ukraine at this point. If they happened to have to face NATO they'd get fricked anyway by the air power, and the mechanized could face them down at half strength and still win.
>you're now aware the 1st Guards Tank Army was going to be one of the first units across the border in the event of a war with NATO >"was" because it no longer exists
Maybe you should have wrangled your moronic homosexual crossboarders doing nothing but spreading their asscheeks and taking diarrhea shits everywhere instead of getting upset when their presence offended people.
>Russia invades >/misc/ goes from not giving a frick about Russia to them being the based trad defenders of whiteness >/k/ goes from supporting freedom and liberty to supporting freedom and liberty
You might be confused but who got broken anon.
Its a scam.
Every bullet sent cost something to make.
Every time a gov't moves a dollar they cut a chunk for themselves just like the a mafia does.
Gov'ts will usually use "X is bad, support Y" to slow down truth then they just move on to another war.
This is insider trading and stock market manipulation
War is a racket
Yeah, I'm sure Smedley Butler would have been opposed to sending aid to Ukraine because if there was one thing he loved, it was authoritarian oligarchs.
They are probably sick and tired of russia and their moronic thinking.
>Hey could you stop blowing up civvies? >"NAZIS! THEY SHOT THEMSELVES! WE DINDU NUTHIN! >Hey could you stop trying to genocide ukraine? >"NAZIS! YOU ARE THE ONE DOING A FINAL SOLUTION TO THE 'RUSSIA PROBLEM'! (lavrov said it so I assume the morons at the top wanted him to say it) >Hey we are going to destroy you now since you aren't listening. >"NAZ-wait what how can you do this to us?"
Finland is sending 400 million worth of equipment to Ukraine, Finnish Ministery of Defense statement says.
So far they have sent 11 shipments worth around 190 million, so this latest batch is pretty considerable increase. Finland rarely gets mentioned in international press about helping Ukraine because Finland does not clarify what exactly is being sent. This is for OPSEC reasons, and usually these statements come only after the shipment has been made. Finns like to keep it hush-hush.
But considering Finland has only 5 million people (there are cities with more population and bigger budgets than the entire Finland), so far it is over a solid half-a-billion worth of help for Ukies.
Because frick Russia.
The big thing in the announcement is the agreement with sweden that says that swedes will compensate equipment Finland sends. That and the price implies that we are sending heavy equipment not previously sent. Could be bmb-2 that have not been upgraded to bmb-2M that get replaced by swede lent CV90. Or it could be Finnish leopards for strv 122
>frick it, send 'em all
god bless
Yes. Thanks to Putin's mental moronation Europe has awoken from it's pacifist slumber.
Russia will win if Ukraine loses, westoids will never concede this being the truth.
>The winner wins if the loser loses
Wow anon, very insightful, good contribution to the thread!
>People die when they are killed
Have you considered that if Ukraine wins Russia will lose?
If russia does not win, it will lose
If ukraine does not lose, it will win.
Note that these statements are NOT equivalent.
Basically, russia is fricked, and was fricked from the very beginning.
What the frick kind of nothing statement is that? Did you blow a neuron or something before typing that?
Did you overdose on krok?
People die when they are killed.
It's not true. Both Russia and Ukraine have already lost.
Most intelligent vatnik
Bros... not like this...
God I wish that were me, I bet he has a dozen little girls waiting for him back home with their cunnies wet for some love
ESL moment
>Russia will win if Ukraine loses
What did he mean by this?
MORE VATNIKS BROKEN BY BFC (big french wiener)
>His smile and optimism : restored
>"He [Napoleon] proclaims that the Kremlin, arsenal, stores, everything is destroyed; that now Moscow is nothing more than a heap of rubble, an impure and unhealthy cesspool, without political and military importance."
Spot on even after centuries
>without political and military importance."
Hehehehehehehehehehehheehehe
>Russia's brilliant tactic : scorched earth and running away
Is there a more lower and miserable firm of life than being Russian?
>Whining like a French (polish) homosexual
No Grande Armée?
I'm very impressed by the Russian armies effort to the destroy their entire country for us themselves. Let's see them do it again
Poland lost
Even Russian cum slurpers have had enough
Ukraine can't order more Serbian ammo online when they don't got no electricity.
Belgrade is just protecting the proffits of their ammo factory.
Why would they need to order online? Post hand with timestamp as no white person is that stupid.
>Russian cum slurpers
I honestly sympathise with the Serbs, despite the best efforts of most of their posters to be shitflinging morons.
They genuinely got fricked sideways over Kosovo independence and the MonteBlack independence referendum. They had overthrown Milosevic, moved towards the West and were talking with the Kosovars. This was while Serbs were pogromed in 2004 in Kosovo, the Montenegran President started to pass laws to screw over the Serb Orthodox Church. Then in a complete break from international norm, the West decides to recognise a unilateral independence declaration for the Kosovars, writing decades of Russian propaganda. They didn't recognise Kurdistan's independence despite their receiving a far worse genocide than the Kosovars did. No blame on the Kosovars for getting one over, but the way Serbia got treated in the late 00s by the West was downright sadistic. Makes total sense to me that they'd sympathise with Russia.
My sympathy is then tempered by Serbs complaining that NATO's tard wrangling them in the 90s was annudah Shoah.
All the Serbs had to do to not get buck broken was just don't commit another round of ethnic cleansing. That was it. They had basically won in Bosnia.
They couldn't even manage that.
All sides in the Balkans were moronic and genocidal. But Serbia tried aggressively to keep an empire past it's due date and aggressively went against western interests.
Morally they were as bad as the next people, but they were also seething morons diplomatically.
With proper diplomacy and a will to compromise with non-Serbs they could have kept MonteBlack at least.
Nah frick that.As a romanian i admire the Serbian spirit,we compromised with Russia and Ukraine and lost territories forever.
We should've at least fought for them.
The ideal balkan mindset is the Serbilioner sigma grind-set,you either get to genocide all the invaders(yes this includes the women and children)or you get genocided yourself.
There should be no compromise when it comes to your fatherland.
This is why what the US did was especially homosexual,they should've left the war run its course even if it took 50 years,let gods will be done.
edgy homosexual
>We should've at least fought for them.
What do you mean by that? Not doing shit about Besarabia after the collapse of the USSR? Because you did do shit about them in WW2.
I see why the Fuhrer rightfully gave Transylvania to the Hungarians.
with this enterprising spirit it's clear why Romania is the shining new star of the 21st century
For the Serbs their war to fight over a hillside and some barns was the most important thing in their lives, but for me it was gun camera footage from a smart bomb I watched on a tv in Hardees during a quick breakfast before school.
>For you, the day Uncle Sam razed your tiny hut with 30 mm chain gun, was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday.
pathetic monkey country
t. hungol
This is why you're poor and your country is an insignificant hooker-stop.
This is what being a schismatic does to you. This man could have been a fine romance speaking mediterranean, yet...
>the Serbilioner sigma grind-set
I admire your hustle. But stop.
maybe read up on the war record of those morons who thought shooting 80yo grandmas is brave - literally lost every battle where the enemy had firearms - even if they themselves had tanks and artillery.
>There should be no compromise when it comes to your fatherland.
and that's how you lose 30% of "your territory" and over 30% of your citizens to economic migration. if the serbs continue "being based" they'll make it to 50% pretty soon.
>As a romanian i admire the Serbian
jesus, that sentence is just so pitiful.
>The Serbian spirit
Most pacifist balkanoid
This kind of rigid black and white shit is why Germany lost both world wars
What living in a sewer does to a mf
>The ideal balkan mindset is the Serbilioner sigma grind-set,you either get to genocide all the invaders(yes this includes the women and children)or you get genocided yourself.
Man, I dream that NATO would have just had the balls to exterminate each and every Serbian wienerroach from the world.
Clean my toilet gipsy moron
And shave your FRICKING SOLES, it's all over the carpet I frick your ass on
>as a Romanian
heh heh hehehhahaHAHAAAHAHAHA
What empire? Serbs were variously conquered by Turks and conquered by Austrians. They got independence, then lost it by autistically poking Austria. And while they had a better showing thanks to Austria's early incompetence, Austria still conquered them.
The whole Yugoslavia thing was a cluster and Croat autism extremely bad. The problem is that the Serbs' losing to Croats and Austrians just made them decide to bully Albanians and Bosnians the same way, the kid who gets bullied and so becomes a bully against even smaller kids.
A sense of proportion is a sign of actual intelligence, you know. Yeah, the Bosnians and Croats did some murdering. But the Serbs did more and that makes them worse.
If they were tards in the 1990s, then they were tards in 1890s, in the 1690s and they will be tards in the 2090s. Do you think people change in the space of 10 years? Some people will always be subhuman, like the vatnigs, israelites, Black folk and chinks.
You're a righteous man anon.
I'll be willing to rethink my treatment of Serbs when they stop stirring shit and start being normal.
They started 4 wars in 8 years, against countries with no formal military and lost 3.
And they actually have the gall to consider themselves the victims.
Good news is the worst enemy to a Serb is another Serbs, so don't expect them to unfrick their society anytime this century. Literally a mafia dictatorship.
I'll give it to them that what croatians did to them in the 40s was fricked up, and shooting down a stealth jet was impressive.
Serbia is the author of their own misfortunes, Kosovo would likely have gone differently if they hadn't already engaged in genocide due to Serbian imperial irredentism. Just like the Germans in Prussia (or Alsace Lorraine) getting fricked over by post-war peace settlements, that is what happens when you frick around. If we let everyone get away with shit then everyone would do it.
Kosovo: Serbs in Kosovo had become a minority and Kosovo had already declared their independence in 1990. Any further efforts to legitimize their separation were going to be violently opposed by Serbia just like Croatia and Bosnia. You can't fault the Albanians for being unable to make further efforts to legalize their separation when Serbia kept trying to keep it part of Serbia by threats and force by using the Yugoslav Army and Serbian police. Regardless, Serbia was never going to recognize any independence referendum anyway. We had already gone through Croatia 1.0, Bosnia 2.0, and now were expecting Kosovo 3.0. Albanians had every right to expect the same and start arming themselves and rebelling. All Serbia had to do was organize a legitimate referendum to resolve the issue (or agree to the Rambouillet Agreement) but they refused. Then you had the Serbs doing things like the Prekaz massacre which tipped the scale. The didn't want another massacre. If the world hadn't recognized Kosovo and intervened, the Serbs were just going to start another round of ethnic cleansing, 100%.
MonteBlack: They had an 85+% turnout on the referendum and they voted to leave. You can't get any clearer than that.
Serbs, like Russians, should spend more effort at making people WANT to be part of their bullshit country. They're like ugly rapists who can't get laid so they grab women in parks.
>Serbs, like Russians, should spend more effort at making people WANT to be part of their bullshit country. They're like ugly rapists who can't get laid so they grab women in parks.
This is what it comes down to. At the end of the day a super majority of a sizable population and area hates you and wants to leave you're going to have a bad time. Sure you can use force, and depending on the circumstances may well win of course. But if you decide to settle things with violence and mass slaughter, it's hard to then turn on the crocodile tears if anyone else decides to intervene with force too and you're too weak.
Also
>All Serbia had to do was organize a legitimate referendum to resolve the issue (or agree to the Rambouillet Agreement) but they refused.
Hell they could have done what many countries have done to stick together and gotten more federalized, grant more autonymy to regions with respect to local law/customs while still being part of one overall nation. Then people can vote with their feet and contribute to things like common defense and freedom of travel and so on and get along, rather then having everything be centrally controlled and homogenized.
But of course authoritarians can't stand that either.
The stupid thing about all of it is that even as late as '89 Slovenia didn't even want to leave Yugoslavia but simply a less unfair division of tax income and a bit more economic autonomy. As late as '91 people in Sarajevo were singing "we'll guard Yugoslavia with our lives" - but by this point the Serbs had shizoed themselves into a me-vs-everyone-else mentality that they started doing pic related
: with predictable results. It's ridicolous how much goodwill Serbia wasted with its neighbors over larping as a great empire.
Even the irredentism problem in Kosovo could have been avoided if 90% of government jobs (and in Socialism that's pretty much all jobs) didn't go to the 40% of Serbs living in Kosovo.
I guess the lesson is that if you want to reap the benefits of being at the reigns of a large multi-ethnic federation that disproportionately favors you - it's not a bad idea to show some, if not magnanimity, then at least basic fairness. Also if you're constantly seeing conspiracies you'll start conspiring against everyone - and then everyone will actually start conspiring against you in turn.
moron
That's a non-responsive answer. Why should anyone want to live under Serbia who isn't Serb?
Balkanoids fighting over who is the roachest when your only accomplishments are fratricide is hilarious. Not even Tito could prevent you from going full African after he died.
They lived in Yugoslavia and only because it served there interests otherwise they would of been Italian clay, after the eastern bloc fell they jumped ships.
>Why should anyone want to live under Serbia who isn't Serb?
even vojvodinian serbs don't want to live under serbia
This is the level of intelligence of your average Serb. They get confronted with a list of their failings and instead of a detailed well reasoned response we get "moron". Why do you think Taliban are smuggling themselves into Europe after "winning"? Why do you think that Vietnam has the highest opinion of the USA of any nation in Asia? Why do you think Japan and Germany never rebelled? Because life is better. We have Freedom. Clean water. Flushing toilets (LOL). We have low crime. Social security. Jobs. Technology. We leave one another alone.
Until Russians and Serbs realize that they have create a functioning nation state for anyone to willingly be part of their world they will have an inevitable expiration date for their entire society
You typed a seething paragraph for one word lol
but moron, he is not seething
man you must be a smart and interesting person
/k/ is an echo chamber this is a place for bullying not serious discussion dumbie lmao
>internet community is an echo chamber
I guarantee that you somehow, for some reason believe you're better off for knowing this. Great opinion never before formed by every redditor
k is reddit/nafo spooks incarnate
>incarnate
oh, r*ssian shills are learning proper english now
>MY echo chamber GOOD
>YOUR echo chamber BAD
How original
everywhere in the world outside of pol and russia itself will feel like an echo chamber to you, anon. I'll leave it up to you to figure out why.
no. this place still has serious threads poppoing once in a while. and frick, if you compare /k/ to /misc/, it even looks like a fricking encyclopedia. perspective matters, I guess
Pol's schizo tendencies unironically make it less of an echo chamber then
>Look at this gun dooood
>Orcs are dying in Soledar
Someday I know for a fact you'll realize what you just said isn't remotely true, and I have no investment in your opinion until that point
I'm not european so this image has no emotional impact
Why would you admit such a self-own
>Rambling about nothing.
You proved his point.
I am supposed to know who these people are?
>man you must be a smart and interesting person
Wow epic insult, moron.
>All Serbia had to do was organize a legitimate referendum to resolve the issue
If serbia organized referendum in Vojvodina in '90 they would lose that too
The only bad thing about the NATO bombing of Serbia is that it stopped
>They genuinely got fricked sideways over Kosovo independence
Try to genocide your own citizens - they get to leave the country. How is that unfair?
>MonteBlack independence referendum
MonteBlack was not a part of Serbia but in a confederation with it - they legally left that confederation via referendum.
>They had overthrown Milosevic
And then the guy who replaced him got assassinated and Milosevices protege took over - and still rules.
>Serbs were pogromed in 2004
Really? For how many years did the Kosovars shell Mitrovica? How many forced labour and rape camps did the Kosovars set up? Was all private property owned by Serbs seized via state mandate? Serbs are the last people on earth who should fling around words like progrom.
>Montenegran President started to pass laws to screw over the Serb Orthodox Church
Yeah, not getting to arbitrarily hold huge swaths of public land like it's the 15th century is "getting screwed."
>Then in a complete break from international norm...
>go around attacking all your neighbors for 10 years going all "frick laws and basic decency, might rules" and "god is a serb"
>b***h and moan about "inernational norms" when you get a tiny taste of your own medicine
pathetic
>Try to genocide your own citizens - they get to leave the country. How is that unfair?
Kosovars weren't genocided - NATO bombing stopped the Serbs before they started. Kurds actually were genocided by Saddam yet their UDI wasn't recognised. If the Kosovars get it, why can't the Kurds? Why can't Abkhazia say 'we got persectuted, therefore out independence is okay?'
>MonteBlack was not a part of Serbia but in a confederation with it - they legally left that confederation via referendum.
All ex-Yugo countries required a 66% supermajority for leaving, not 55%. That's ignoring the evidence of voter fraud.
>And then the guy who replaced him got assassinated and Milosevices protege took over - and still rules.
The Pro-Milosevic groups were emboldened by an absolute go-nowhere rapproachment with the West that cut the legs off the Pro-West Serbs.
>Blahblahblah
None of that is what a pogrom is.
>Yeah, not getting to arbitrarily hold huge swaths of public land like it's the 15th century is "getting screwed."
They 'arbitrarily hold it' by means of being there in one spot for centuries - if they started grabbing mosques on the same logic there would be outcry.
>"You be bad to ah ansestahs so we bad to u"
Are we all fricking Black folk on this board now?
Taking your worms for a walk?
Big if true (which might be, considering Vučić declared some days ago that Donbas is Ukrainian)
It's ok, another nation takes the title of russian cum slurpers
>Actually believing TASS
Pistorius' swearing in speech included him LITERALLY stating that all Europe is at war and Russia must be made to lose no matter the cost. He's literally not giving a single flying frick about Schold and the dove win of the SPD.
Serbia has been neutral/west leaning for a long time now, people act so surprised every time they see Serbia act against Russia. Serbia never recognized Donbass meme republics, condemned Russian invasion immediately, and have forbidden citizens from joining the war (this disproportionately hurts Russians). Worst thing they do is beg Russia for weapons occasionally (and hell, this is kind of a good thing).
Yes, Kosovo was a stupid mistake from the west, Europe created a corrupt narco state near it, and made a lot of people angry around the world, but things are improving, the path to reconciliation is there, and it progress is being made on EU integration. New generations don't care that much about Kosovo or Bosnia, they just want to forget and move on.
Give Kosovo to Albania already, frick it. They'll like it.
Last time everyone teamed up on the bad guy they ended up being the good ones all along. I can only wonder what the future has in store for us.
I too miss Gaddafi, fellow brownoid
I miss Ghaddafi unironically.
>fell for brownoid propaganda
Locked
tell me wise man, why was ghaddafi a bad guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103
>some mossad false flag
lmao, kys boomer
Which brown country are you from?
GOOD OL' US OF A
>Which brown country are you from?
The US.
Can you frick off to Europe already?
By the way, white people moving someplace two hundred years ago doesn't make that white people's land.
I'm glad whites got butchered in south Africa.
Stay in Europe, gay.
You Black person slaves kill your own kind all day long and will always cower to your slave masters as they laugh at you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Yvonne_Fletcher
Russians are also the bad guys since they have literal israelite oligarchs and have floded their country with churka muslims.
Lets face it there are no good guys in any governments the israelites won. We are either going to rise up and fight for ourselfs or we will go quietly into the night.
Simple as.
Based Saddam enjoyer.
What a dog shit take. Saddam was an American lapdog that invaded Iran under their orders and used chemical weapons on civvies on their behalf and got what he deserved in the end. Stop being moronic please.
Russians were the bad guy in WWII. Communist israelites always are.
the russians are the bad guys moron
Inshallah brother.
Kek, please tell me this is a real, unedited propaganda photo they put out there.
Based Isis, Saddam, Soviet Union and Nazi Germany enjoyer???
The SU had global support in the only conflict that mattered.
I can't see Ukraine becoming a threat to the free world any time soon
Ukrainians are hilarious, no one that funny could be evil.
Someone, or something is pushing for war.
Is Ukraine worth give human lives for? Definitely not.
Slav lives? Sure
Let the eastern euros fight it out.
>Someone, or something is pushing for war.
You don't say
>Let the eastern euros fight it out.
But it's worth destroying russias phatetic military, saving based Ukrainians is just a bonus.
And what happened to the "good ones" lmao?
you mean North Korea?
Russia has always been the baddies since Ivan the Terrible and Russo Japan wars. Its just western aristocracy had deals with Russia.
>attack a smaller country in a naked war for territory
>manage to make this small country known for corruption look like an incorruptable beacon of light because your country is so fricked up
>sacrifice men by the thousands to gain territory by the square meter
>LOSE A FRICKING PIECE OF THE TRUE CROSS
Russia could not be more stereotypically evil
to make this small country known for corruption look like an incorruptable beacon of light because your country is so fricked up
Russians are physically unable to comprehend this
this.
Putin literally gave ukrops their founding myth, i mean even if by some miracle he decisively won the war tomorrow morning - ukrainians already have their Alamo, their Talvisota, their Easter Rebellion - win or lose, what we are seeing is a very literal nationbuilding myth in progress.
If it's any consolation, it's not unlikely that the piece of the true cross was switched with a chunk of driftwood for vodka money
I suggest checking Shoigu's wood collection
>Russia could not be more stereotypically evil
More like Dr Evil at this point.
Most posters here are american, so basically 85IQ subhuman mutts. It doesn't matter what the truth is or is not.
Russians are more moronic than any Muttmerican.
>india's IQ is the same as Nigeria
what the frick is wrong with the poos?
A few parts of India have high IQs but the average is brought down by all the rural tards who have like 10 kids per family.
They all leave because they can't be arsed to deal with the bullshit that is Indian bureaucracy and the hardcore spastics who take the caste system seriously.
>mountain israelites mogging everyone
>Last time everyone teamed up on the bad guy they ended up being the good ones all along.
Well, I don't know what you mean by "ended up", since the US, UK and France were always the good guys, not just after WW2 / Korean War / Desert Storm but yeah, sure, you're right.
Last time western Europe had teamed up against the East was when international SS divisions were formed, you massive /misc/Black person subhuman.
I swear, that fricking board is negative IQ at this point.
Weird cope but ok.
Oh no, not the 19 frog trucks with a gun that breaks after 2 shots, Russia is truly finished!!!!
> breaks after 2 shots
Are you high you moronic fricking Black person ?
The only CAESAR lost yet was to a russian kamikaze drone.
last time everyone complained and now it's cool?
stupid kids these days
>We want to wage war against the USSR!
>Proceeds to ally with them, and then wage war against Poland, Norway, Denmark, France, Great Britain, Holland, Belgium, Greece...
Yeah but that literally didn't happen.
Except Hungary, Austria and Switzerland. Germany, it's complicated.
only Hungary.
Austria is neutral and not in NATO
Switzerland is neither in EU nor in NATO and neutral too
Germany is one of the biggest donors to Ukraine contrary to the fake news that /k/ homosexuals keep regurgitating.
austria and switzerland are both homosexual nations that would sell out even their own children for some cash
Correct this. Switzerland SHOULD sell to all sides of the conflict. No exemptions. We got wares if you have coin. But noooo homosexual Fröntler wish for the Anschluss and we must "play nice". Day of the rope when?
>dissing Switzerland
I see you are some pacifist kumbaya homosexual.
True about Germany but let's face the facts you aint taking the lead for supplying something good like MBT and so on you are always have to be ether third or even last due your chancler is ether a coward who is afraid to take the lead or allergic to important decisions and just want to go to status quo or has to be shown the way like a blind man without the stick
>19 howitzers
>this is huge
i hate vatniks too but 19 howitzers doesn't seem like a whole lot
19 Caesars with precision/extended range ammo are worth 100+ vatnik shell chuckers
They're also getting Archers, in total 30~ top tier SPAGs ontop of what already was sent
>Archers
> top tier
Is this some kind of advanced bong cope? lmao you should be embarrased you even had them in reserve. Worse than africa tier.
Erm, methinks you're talking about the wrong Archer.
>being moronic on purpose
you clearly never played vice city
VC Rhinos are truly a wunderwaffe.
>can be operated by 1 untrained person and be at 100% effectiveness
>destroys most vehicles by a simple tap
>light enough to cross any bridge
>fully airdroppable and can fly under it's own power
They brits have been training Ukrainian soldiers to use the longbow since last summer.
19 modern western howitzers is a lot.
the fact that they're sending ALL of the ones they have is also a big propaganda/morale factor - 'look, denmark sent x, why are you being a b***h and whining about not being able to do it?'
well i think Poland delivered 28 Krabs to Ukraine as of now 4 are cofirmed destoryed. Tha'ts like 6 months and they are still doing work
son, you're probably a millennial and wouldn't know the first thing about what doing work would constitute.
>haha I work harder than you
I work smarter than you Black person
>smarter
thank you for providing the comedic relief
The pleasure is all yours
"Destroyed" tanks and SPGs can be fixed by the way, which is why both sides of the visually confirmed losses aren't absolutely perfect, as some can be used to fix others. Unless they get fully burnt out if course
The 24 himars tells me your wrong.
We should make this a yearly thing. A holiday were all Yuros get together, drink, have fun and frick up russians. That would be some European unity right there.
We could make it into a European identity thing, a holiday to remember us defeating the naZi-orcs.
A European state version of The Purge. Anything goes as long as Russian-occupied territory is retaken.
22th June would be a good date.
Can we have a sister holiday for Gypsies?
It'd be funnier if part of the game was trying to sneak as many gypsies into Russia as possible to see how much stuff they can bring back with them on the return trip.
I would pay good money to see them trying to sneak an entire oil rig or half of Uralvagonzavod across the border without the Rooskies noticing.
That guy looks like a homosexual from a homosexual country
Guten Morgen, Herr General
NATO field testing its equipment for literally free in an actual war and russians can only cope that few vehicles are gonna ruin the economy
>Germans already know Leopard 2A4 would fail the test
this. one in a century chance to test new and old stock with almost no downsides.
Anyone have that NATO Pepe with the gun in Russian Wojaks mouth?
What are the chances Russia retaliates with terrorist attacks done by their glow Black folk?
I'm afraid Putin will either nuke or do some stupid shit like that
Just reference this image and all your worries will go away
The west is sending a lot of shit all at once. This homie might crack and do it
He might, but the rockets won't fly because the FSB rather sell monkeman out than sign their own nuclear holocaust. Monke might not care about his own life at this point but a lot of important people do
>Press Button
>Nassink happen
"Who serviced this thing?"
Who indeed.
Go home Puneeth
It seems like the dam has finally broken. All that's left is for the krauts and burgers to finally cave on MBTs and Ukraine will finally start getting all it needs for new armored divisions that Russia has no counter to.
It’s not. I fricking hate Europe and all Europeans
I'm sorry you feel that way, pajeet
Bonjour Danemark, I guess then you will need a new contract to replace those Caesar that you gave to Ukraine?
Denmark was one of the first few nations to donate, props to them for the help provided given its size.
Uhh, can we consider this as the French doing something?
I think most people in today's world would object to their countries spending 80% of their GDP on military adventures and largely prestige project imperialism. The wagaries of the modern world and it's relatively powerless governments.
Shame. The empire wars were fun to read about.
Do it again Europe please ty
this is great
>sweden gives 12 archer
>denmark gives 19 ceasar
top level of bantz
>Whole Europe decides to support globohomosexual
Why am I not surprised? No wonder Europe is getting invaded by blacks.
I am sure those ceasars and archers would have helped against those immigrants, you monumental moron
Yeah but they won't be used on immigrants though.
>muh glogohobo
Why is that in 99% of cases when someone uses this word, he is also a total fricking cretin?
Your whole globohomosexual meme is mostly a Russian invention, Russian-israeli if you want to specific. They have been the ones who created it and they are also the ones who has been supporting and funding it for decades. Russia IS the original globohomosexual you stupid illiterate /misc/Black person trash.
>Russia IS the original globohomosexual you stupid illiterate /misc/Black person trash.
That would be Roman Empire.
Ironic shitpost is still a shitpost.
And now sweeden... the frick is happening?
Effects of a new year? Who knows
Swedes want to get into NATO so this is little token of their commitment.
God this shit slaps so hard!
Industrial has always been one of my favourite genres.
Been listening to it for 10 years, I found a club that played it a decade ago and was hooked.
>Industrial
Yes
it may be a factor, but far from the only one. swened has been helping ukraine all the time. consider that ukrainians technically are in part swedes.
We like their choice of colors.
you think we're going to let some homosexual fricking danes upstage us?
How long until Denmark and Sweden officially intervene in the war in a game of one-upsmanship and Scandinavian troops seize St Petersburg?
I can see it playing out before me already, like rich kids trying to flex about how much they can throw away.
>"We'll send a third of our Archers! We're not using all of them anyway."
>"Oh yeah? We'll send ALL our Ceasars! Make an effort!"
>"Laaame, we seem to have misplaced a hundred or so CV90's, I wonder where they went."
>"Sure bro, but did you know two dozen Leopards just went missing the other day? Even the crews are gone, wonder where they went!"
>"That's nothing! You know what? We're missing some Gripens all of a sudden, how unfortunate!"
When Sweden sends in the Moose Cavalry this war would be over in a few hours
too bad Caroleans didn't make moose cavalry real
I love our little brothers from the east :') You guys are okay (sometimes)
>east
you are to our east are you not?
I wish Binlan would publish what's being sent. I refuse to believe the svenskjävel poofters are the superior russophobes.
>binlan delivers their developed-in-secret hydrogen bomb
Shhh! It's supposed to be a surprise
I think the secrecy behind Finnish shipments is the best part. It´s fun to speculate what we´re sending and then seeing it afterwards in some pictures.
I´d imagine there are no more Gvozdikas or Pions in Finland anymore.
Does anyone have the webm to the pic?
>pretty much every military on the continent today exists specifically to fight Russia, with no real risk of getting in any other conflict any time soon
>every bit of damage dealt to Russia's military right now will require additional time and money for them to recover from
>donating equipment therefore not only aids Ukraine's defense, but delays further belligerence from Russia at far less cost to themselves than fighting them directly
I do wonder...is Russia about to be dealt a knock out blow? Or is NATO afraid Russia is about to steamroll Ukraine?
It's gotta be one of the 2
Not necessarily one or the other. These deliveries are meant to support a future offensive, nothing more. I don't think the next offensive will be the end of the war, regardless of whose offensive it is and how well/bad it goes.
The war is in attrition phase and will remain there for quite some time. Ukraine is burning through soviet legacy equipment while gradually transitioning to western made stuff.
One of the reasons why there is political maneuvering around who is going to send tanks and how many is the fact that many of them will be destroyed and there is not enough production capacity at this time to replenish expected losses. Western tanks might be better individually than their Russian counterparts. High intensity warfare will still burn a lot of them. The idea that there won’t be massive losses in equipment is absurd.
Maybe, but one also has to consider that there's significantly less Russian tanks than before, way less trained personnel for them and also way less people who can train others on them.
I guess this burst of military gear came out of nowhere just now to basically build Ukraine up so it can qualitatively defeat Russia over the next year when all that stuff hits the front.
Why not send more HIMARS? The ~40 they have so far have changed the course of the war. Imagine if they had enough to not only suppress Russian supply lines, but also for tactical use with cluster bombs etc.
Because the bottleneck is ammunition, not launchers.
probably just nato countries getting bored of the war. Maybe they hoped that if the war goes on for long enough Russia will just frick off and declare themselves the winners. But since vatniks just keep going at it they now decided to up the ante.
Putin has to be feeling pressure at this point...assuming he isnt dead
if ukraine was colonial america and russia was britain, the whole world is the french navy after saratoga
Binkov claims that if the ukies push south and reach the sea of Azov then the war is over but he's a literal Russian puppet so I won't blame you for taking that with a grain of salt.
150+ western IFVs is definitely the kind of numbers that would let them pull it off if they decide to try
r*ssia fricked around and now is about to find out
Absolutely based. CV-90s were designed for this exact scenario. I would dread to be a Russian infantryman.
>Denmark officially joins the based as frick club
Spicey!
>based
I typed soi, what the frick?
Soi is Thai for "alley", you esl moron
You got exposed as the newhomosexual communist subhuman that you are. Welcome to PrepHole, now have a nice day / die in a trench.
cool, more combat training against western shit. spasiba.
Damn that's very generous of Denmark, they are really stepping up.
19 howizters?! its over for vatnik
Oof The Caesar might aswell be counted in favour of russia. Its a damn pos.
hvad fåck
>last ditch effort after Russia started advancing again
>last ditch
we haven't even touched the F-16s, Eurofighters, Rafales and Gripens yet let alone the Lightning IIs
It's fricking beautiful
>Great Britain will send more than 200 units of armored vehicles to Ukraine in addition to 14 Challenger 2 tanks,
Europe decides to frick Russia up
>Isn't it wonderful?
You have to understand that Pootin had to attack Ukraine or whole Europe decided to frick Russia up.
This is about money you fricked up moron bigger homosexuals. They send expensive shit then go oh wow guess we have to order more. The entire war is about defense contracts. Everything is always about money and power, Black folk. Frick off.
So you're telling me Russia was in on the plan all along and invaded a sovereign European nation to help fuel the European/American MIC? Based.
Maybe maybe not who knows but it’s still money and/or power c**t.
>Everything is always about money and power, Black folk. Frick off.
Damn. That's some deep shit my brother. Really made me think.
I love putin now and understand the necessity of punishing your subordinates through forced anal penetration.
Russia claimed another nation has no right to exist and invaded, he's the reason military budgets around the world have drastically increased in the last year.
>b-but went sent things
We are mostly sending old shit that has been or is in the process of being replaced and we are claiming the brand new manufacture cost while doing so.
I have a 20yo ute with 240,000 km on it, I paid $16k for it band new in 2002 and adjusted for inflation that's ~$24k. Imagine I give you my ute and then say I gave you $24k worth of gear, this is what is happening.
>We
EU is donating stuff.
Only US is smart enough to loan.
Tho not sure what's actually being paid. Those manufacture costs are likely only in the media.
When Ukraine wins the EU will get cheap gas and the US will get a cut of sales, it's a trade as old as time.
Lend-lease isn't a literal fricking loan, you moron.
Read the law, literally says
>SEC. 2. LOAN AND LEASE OF DEFENSE ARTICLES TO THE GOVERNMENTS OF UKRAINE AND EASTERN FLANK COUNTRIES.
Now post the part that says it works exactly like a bank loan does. I'll wait.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease#:~:text=The%20Lend%2DLease%20agreements%20with,common%20enemy%20and%20joined%20the
Once Russia is defeated, my prediction is a Euro land war within 25 years
Why would Denmark need those anyway. Nobody wants to invade them, Germany isn't even sovereign only the USA is eying Greenland but those howitzers won't help them there anyway.
Is Denmark even large enough to disperse 19 Caesar properly in case of war?
Speaking of mainland Europe Denmark ofc, not the Eskimo colonies.
They expect a war involving a lot more territory than their home turf, given the whole NATO thing and all that.
Not really. Artillery was actually phased out completely in the danish military in 2014 only to be brought back again in '19. The artillery brigade is not even functional yet. Most of the caesars are in France and have not been delivered to Denmark. They will be delivered to Ukraine now instead. The danish "defence" is not really constructed to defend Denmark. Its not a military as much as its a mechanized infantry brigade with some f16s. The whole thing with fire missions is provided by the US when ever the danish military does anything.
Only a century too late
I'm waiting for Canada to send our entire tank fleet. All 80 Leopards. Send them all and buy a K2 production line
trudeau make's germany's leash look like a VIP pass
Hm, Russia's diplomacy seems to have failed somehow. How did this happen? Is Russia too stronk?
Not Belgium though. They claim to be on Ukraine's side instead of neutral, but haven't given shit.
Belgium has a large defense industry so all this bullshit about their military not having inventory is just misdirection.
looks pretty girthy, how effective are these things?
Nothing like leaving NATO's Eastern European front grossly undefended while concentrating all your armor on a pointless proxy fight in israelitekraine. Tactical genius shit here. It would be funny if they were stacking the deck of ww3 for Russia to get a good head start, you know make for a sporting battle on TV. Then the US will be forced to call up The Draft and ship armor to Europe for ww3 and a comeback epic victory. screenshot it
Most of Russia's invasion-capable vehicles are blown out husks in Ukraine at this point. If they happened to have to face NATO they'd get fricked anyway by the air power, and the mechanized could face them down at half strength and still win.
>you're now aware the 1st Guards Tank Army was going to be one of the first units across the border in the event of a war with NATO
>"was" because it no longer exists
>one half of two weeks to the River Rhine
any good footage of this caesar thing blowing shit up?
westoids keep sending their wunderwaffens and ukraine still getting btfo kek
it's russia vs the world and russia is still winning
Present Kherson
>it's russia vs the world and russia is still winning
this war broke /k/'s buck so bad it should be rebranded /natopol/
Accurate, its like if Muhammad Ali was so buck broken he went on a killing spree against the Vietkong on a moments notice.
I don't understand this image
when you see the image its edited from, you might get why that edit was created
requires too much context
its probably rather self-explanatory for most people even without seeing the original
cry more vatnoid
Maybe you should have wrangled your moronic homosexual crossboarders doing nothing but spreading their asscheeks and taking diarrhea shits everywhere instead of getting upset when their presence offended people.
Incoherent ramblings of a dumbass.
>Russia invades
>/misc/ goes from not giving a frick about Russia to them being the based trad defenders of whiteness
>/k/ goes from supporting freedom and liberty to supporting freedom and liberty
You might be confused but who got broken anon.
Seething vatBlack person
well all the nonsense about nuclear war was nonsense
Always has been
habsburg jaw
A big shoutout to Putin for succeeding in doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of what he had hoped. Nothing unites europe more than killing russians
its like he watched thousands of hours of WWII documentaries and decided to do every mistake both Hitler and Stalin avoided
>Whole Europe
It's just the Kohokhols fighting and they're still pushing Rusha's shit in. It's beautiful.
Ukraine is basically the rest of Europe's mercenaries.
Huh. They sound pretty awesome.
>Russia has managed to create Europe's personal sardauker
good russian is death russian
Its a scam.
Every bullet sent cost something to make.
Every time a gov't moves a dollar they cut a chunk for themselves just like the a mafia does.
Gov'ts will usually use "X is bad, support Y" to slow down truth then they just move on to another war.
This is insider trading and stock market manipulation
War is a racket
Yeah, I'm sure Smedley Butler would have been opposed to sending aid to Ukraine because if there was one thing he loved, it was authoritarian oligarchs.
Ukrainian artillery is getting BTFO by Russian counter-artillery on a daily basis so this wont really change the outcome
lmao it's WW3 already but Pussians are still in denial.
>surely this time...
Have you seen the temperatures the last few months? General Winter defected.
They are probably sick and tired of russia and their moronic thinking.
>Hey could you stop blowing up civvies?
>"NAZIS! THEY SHOT THEMSELVES! WE DINDU NUTHIN!
>Hey could you stop trying to genocide ukraine?
>"NAZIS! YOU ARE THE ONE DOING A FINAL SOLUTION TO THE 'RUSSIA PROBLEM'! (lavrov said it so I assume the morons at the top wanted him to say it)
>Hey we are going to destroy you now since you aren't listening.
>"NAZ-wait what how can you do this to us?"
Finland is sending 400 million worth of equipment to Ukraine, Finnish Ministery of Defense statement says.
So far they have sent 11 shipments worth around 190 million, so this latest batch is pretty considerable increase. Finland rarely gets mentioned in international press about helping Ukraine because Finland does not clarify what exactly is being sent. This is for OPSEC reasons, and usually these statements come only after the shipment has been made. Finns like to keep it hush-hush.
But considering Finland has only 5 million people (there are cities with more population and bigger budgets than the entire Finland), so far it is over a solid half-a-billion worth of help for Ukies.
Because frick Russia.
https://www.defmin.fi/en/topical/press_releases_and_news/finland_to_deliver_more_defence_materiel_to_ukraine.13357.news
The big thing in the announcement is the agreement with sweden that says that swedes will compensate equipment Finland sends. That and the price implies that we are sending heavy equipment not previously sent. Could be bmb-2 that have not been upgraded to bmb-2M that get replaced by swede lent CV90. Or it could be Finnish leopards for strv 122
Fricking baby murdering israelite allies.
RussBlack folk? Yeah.
This entire dick measuring competiton of who can send the most steel to Ukraine just reminds of the last part of Vaskduellen.