Who does it best, Red Arrows or Blue Angels?

Who does it best, Red Arrows or Blue Angels?

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Red arrows

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, look at that majestic 20' wingtip separation. In level flight. Way more impressive than 18" separation in a 90 degree climb. (Tell me you're not a pilot without telling me you're not a pilot).

      Red arrows, they simply are more elegant in the air. American pilots just do flyovers and it takes more skill to fly older planes

      >Just Do Flyovers
      Lmao
      >Older!
      74 vs 78 is not a relevant difference, especially given one is an all-up strike fighter and the other is a dedicated student pilot assassination machine that can't even break mach 1.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >judging either of them on the images OP happened to choose

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Red arrows, they simply are more elegant in the air. American pilots just do flyovers and it takes more skill to fly older planes

      It’s the Red Arrows and it’s not even close. It will always be quality vs quantity. Just as an SAS soldier is better than a navy seal, or a royal marine is better than a U.S. marine, Red Arrows are simply a higher calibre

      American here but I have to say the Red Arrows win by at least a small margin. When I was at Uni in Texas I went to an air show and saw Blue Angels, just was rubbish as far as aero acrobats. Not as good as the footage I saw on Red Arrows

      I strongly suspect that this is actually one anon, and I think I know who it is too (our very own board turbo-autist).

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yup. Smells of farts in /k/ right now.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      OP

      Red arrows, they simply are more elegant in the air. American pilots just do flyovers and it takes more skill to fly older planes

      It’s the Red Arrows and it’s not even close. It will always be quality vs quantity. Just as an SAS soldier is better than a navy seal, or a royal marine is better than a U.S. marine, Red Arrows are simply a higher calibre

      OP SAMEgayGING with other devices

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        And of course OP again

        [...]

        >So far it’s
        >Red Arrows - 7
        >Blue Angels - 1

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Red arrows, they simply are more elegant in the air. American pilots just do flyovers and it takes more skill to fly older planes

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It’s the Red Arrows and it’s not even close. It will always be quality vs quantity. Just as an SAS soldier is better than a navy seal, or a royal marine is better than a U.S. marine, Red Arrows are simply a higher calibre

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Quality over Quantity!
      >Red Arrows put 9 aircraft up over the Blue's 6, and fly at more than twice the separation
      >Quality over Quantity

      It's sad how much of a self-inflicted meme the UK has become. Even their own arguments backfire.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I saw one slam into a seagull IRL that cracked the wienerpit and covered the pilot in bird blood. So red arrows for sure.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    American here but I have to say the Red Arrows win by at least a small margin. When I was at Uni in Texas I went to an air show and saw Blue Angels, just was rubbish as far as aero acrobats. Not as good as the footage I saw on Red Arrows

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >American here
      >rubbish

      >t. Nigel Walker from Houstinham Township

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      yes blood rubbish it tis

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >rubbish

      Sir, I…

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >American here

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Tbh as someone who has seen both, I’d give it to the Brits. I saw the Blues a few times in person and once saw the Red Arrows while on holiday in England. Red. Arrows hands down.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Americans don't say "on holiday", Nigel

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I meant during the holidays haha you think I’m just taking the piss and pretending I’m American?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Of course, everyone knows that Hank says he goes on holibobs instead. Well known for it, in fact.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Which is more impressive? Lance Armstrong or Max Verstappen

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Who has actually seen both?

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I sawr the blue angels and they was more wimbly-bimbly than the red arrers, they was

    -Lord Ian Jones upon Farthingham of Old York Estate

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Funny thing is, every blue angel has flown the T-45 (BAE Hawk) and had to graduate from that to the big boy can actually kill people F/A-18. So if a lot of people get cool about a lot of shit real quick, we could see the blues fly a red-arrow show since they are all well checked out on the aircraft. Until the Navy replaces it, which is apparently happening soon. I never liked the goshawk. Mostly because we would get mogged by air force dudes out of shepherd in their non-gay T-38s. I blame prince harry.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      SAS trains Navy Seals. Air Force pilots are literally trained in England sometimes and their learned their best moves from RAF. Quality over quantity.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >SAS trains Navy Seals. Air Force pilots are literally trained in England sometimes and their learned their best moves from RAF. Quality over quantity.
        You can count the number of SEALs and aviators who receive TDY orders to Bongland for 'training' on one hand. (It's literally a CO discretion award to a good frogman/aviator so he can go run rampant cucking the brits for a few weeks for good performance before getting called back into a real military).
        Conversely EVERY SAS / RAF operator/pilot is *required* to attend US training, where they are in the middle-lower tier of units operating in the JFTC so that we can hope, vainly (Remember Basra? I remember Basra) that the UK forces can approach some semblance of down syndrome affected conscript-tier troops in a combined order of battle.

        Bottom line is, even the RM's hope it's USN/USMC air coming to answer the CAS-1 troops in contact call. Nobody is calling in contact hoping whatever tf is left of the RAF is closest with ordnance. Fortunately, they never are.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        This is honestly a sad, post the bongs are so pathetic now they post wishful cope like this. I mean it doesnt even make sense for SAS to train seals, it would be SBS. And the RAF hasnt been relevant since the battle of britain, and they have basically zero training hours compared to the USAF.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        This is the 2nd time you've said "quality over quantity" and I'm sure you'll be saying it on repeat the longer the thread goes on. Just because you have less, doesnt make it pound for pound better, Rajeesh Beckham

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >SAS trains Navy Seals
        No they don't.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Actually all the NATO specops crosstrain with each other all the time.
          There were some 7 feet tall blonde vikings with bones in their beards lurking around Poole not too long ago, turns out they were from Estonia.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >SAS trains Navy Seals
            No they don't.

            Cross train? Nah, we send you running even with home advantage. Pretty sure I read a similar story of 50 SAS troops beating 200 seals

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              It's so weird how Dailey Mail publishes these stories about once a year, and every time it's
              >U.S.+U.K.+ other countries VS U.S.
              And everytime bongs fall for it

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >this fricking story again
              UK marines were part of a US lead team, AND they were OpFor. You are an idiot for believing this.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Be a man and take the L

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >believing the daily fail
                maybe you should look in a mirror anon.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Part of US military relations is doing these joint training simulations, and rarely are the scenarios anywhere close to an "even fight", with the US usually being a significant disadvantage by design.
              >foreign ally gets to feel good beating the US
              >US military gets experience fighting at a disadvantage
              >shitty propagandists get to use this "loss" as justification for more military spending

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >the US usually being a significant disadvantage
                Yeah, by not being pitted against goat farmers or rice farmers? You still lost against those.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Which battles exactly?

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                britain lost to corn farmers. people who ate animal fodder to survive every day.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Brits are genuinely the most insecure people on Earth

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Cross train with =/= trained by

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Neither. The USAF Thunderbirds mog both.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The only correct answer.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >never even had a chance to be a fighter pilot

    it stings bros

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I want to ride in a fighterjet before I die bros.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    there are only two ways to find out, homoerotic volleyball or sweaty naked locker room wrestling.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Human pilots will be obsolete soon anyway
    AI is just too much better

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >AI is just too much better
      kek ESL

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The phrase “AI is just too much better” is not grammatically incorrect, but it may sound a bit awkward. The word “too” is often used to indicate an excessive amount of something, and it’s usually used in a negative context.

        A more common way to express this idea might be “AI is significantly better” or “AI is far better”. These phrases convey the idea that AI is much better than whatever it’s being compared to, without implying that there’s an excessive or problematic degree of difference.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          cGPT

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Blue Angels, thought they were cooler in the 90's. Safety rules now won't let 'em do low level flybys where you can wave and see 'em wave back nor let 'em do runs down 4th Ave between the buildings

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I saw the Angels at an airshow in the 90s and it was incredible at the time. Thunderbirds gave a good show the next year too.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Did anyone watch the IMAX film that just came about about them

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      such is life. I remember when that Hawker Hunter crash (failed aerobatics move that took out like 5 cars filled with people on a road) happened in the UK and the government basically banned private pilots doing anything fun at airshows until the media heat died down.

      This included banning the last flying Avro Vulcan from doing barrel rolls despite it being easily capable of doing much more than that in capable hands. The display pilot was the same pilot that flew the first bombing mission over Port Stanley where he did a split S under AAA fire at whatever AoA you get with both pilots nearly ripping their arms off in a 77 ton bomber with no fly by wire. He did the barrel rolls anyway.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >the last flying Avro Vulcan
        It sucks shit it is grounded now, I saw it flying once and what a beautiful aircraft, it's one of those machines that just looks like it belongs in the sky

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I walked up Ben Nevis and a Eurofighter buzzed the route with full afterburner in front of me as I neared the top last summer, I swear he was well below regulation height kek, I reckon if I had a ladder in the right spot I could have touched it, he wingwaved a second pass too.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nice sock-puppet energy. Why don't they dogfight? Surely your menstrual arrows will prevail over the pathetic blue-angels. It's not like they are combat-coded aircraft or anything. Cute trainer though. I enjoyed over-g-ing it in south texas.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I support the Red White and Blue

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Which lost the fewest to crashes?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Probably the new guys who where 20 years late to the party and do zero dangerous aerobatics using only low-performance, non-standard training planes rather than straight up fleet warbirds with the cannon removed for weight and balance considerations. I would guess. Kinda weird from a safety perspective why all the celebrities want to fly with the Blue Angels and not the WhatsThemsNames

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT britbongs who've never heard of the Blue Angels pretend to be American
    it's the blue angels but yellow-tooth fricknuts are going to spam the thread until you think it's the... whatever the other guys are called.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >whatever the other guys are called.
      That would be the Red Arrows.
      They're the acrobatic display team America copied (changing red to blue, and arrows to angel).
      This is not new. America is, in fact, a cheap copy of British culture (without the empire or any sort of class).

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        There is nothing wrong with being a copy. They also still have the empire moron, it's the one thing they absolutely copied.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Cletus from New York County, saw the bloody Blue Angels getting a bus from Baltimoreshire to Los-upon-Angeles and they were rubbish! Red Arrows were brilliant though.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This is a good summation of this shit thread

      I expect poor quality shitposting from vatnigs pretending to be John Johnsov from Florrida Oblast, but not the Bongs

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    itt: OP samegays pretending to be a bong pretending to be a septic. a gay experience for all who witness

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      He's the same homosexual who posted the CV90 and Korean threads.
      You know his fart sniffing name.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Why do Americans have such cringe names for everything.
    Fricking angels?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      because the navy is gay, no shit they chose a name like angel. Whoever was in charge probably named it after their boyfriend at the time. The Air Force's Thunderbirds have a slightly cooler name

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Thunderbirds is a kid's show over here.

        I always cringe when I hear American operation names though.
        >Operation Enduring Freedom
        >Operation Friendship's Resolve
        >Operation Diversity's Fist
        Frick off

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Thunderbirds is a kid's show over here
          Presumably the TV show is named after the USAF squadron, which dates back to 1917.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          i mean we were gonna call the Iraq War
          >Operation Iraqi Liberation
          but it was a little too obvious.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >OI BLUD GOD SAVE THE QUEEN FOR QUEEN 'N COUNTRY INNIT?!

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Meanwhile Bri'itsh plane names: Gaylord Dick Knob Peter Bellend

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I would have said the Red Arrows before, but they now have such strict safety guidelines that the Blue Angels are probably better, just because they're allowed to do the cool shit.

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Technically they're probably on exactly the same level, but the Red Arrows have the right plane for the job and a massive edge in pure showmanship.

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nani the frick man

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I am Aleksandr Pilkington from Birminghamshire Krai, and I am know in my British heart that Red Arrows are the most deadly and beautiful acrobats team. You have my vote.

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Red arrows and it's not even close. Blue angels use fly by wire aircaft, and the red arrows basically invented the modern air display. The UK's airshow circuit keeps them very busy.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Just to add - f18 is also a significantly larger aircaft, it gives the illusion of smaller distance while also being more stable.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You could fit a whole hawk in the gap between the blue angles. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy both, I enjoy all air display teams. But there's more to an air display than just flying close, there needs to be a bit of chaos and some beauty in the formations, for that you need larger teams. As a brit I'll always adore the red arrows but I love the Jordanian falcons too. Prop aircaft just add so much in terms of post stall moves.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >navy can't pilot
          yeah. here's how the Thunderbirds do it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Just to add - f18 is also a significantly larger aircaft, it gives the illusion of smaller distance while also being more stable.

      This

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's nuts to me how the UK went from a global tier aviation manufacturer to having their best jet engine builder (Rolls Royce) be unable to build a jet engine producing more than 90 kN of thrust despite the fact that the US was creating similar class engines in the 70s

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You're aware EJ-2000 has a higher T/W ratio than F135 right?

      Thrust on its own is moronic, the UK had 170kn turbojets in the 60's on concorde.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The EJ200 does not have nearly as many integrated features like generators, pumps, ECS coolers etc. like the F135 has inbuilt to it in order to maintain very high power generation, ease of maintenance and stealth. The F135 also has 50% longer engine life than the EJ200 as well. If you want something with comparable features and application, the F404 has very similar engine life, slightly lower thrust to weight ratio, similar fuel consumption and slightly less power than the EJ200 but ran in 1978 compared to 1991 for the EJ200. In other words GE had the F404 in a production aircraft and operating 4 years before the EJ200 even ran for the first time on a bench

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks, you just activated my trap card and proved my point that thrust alone is a moronic statistic.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            It is by itself, but contextually you need modern high thrust engines for modern 5th/6th gen aircraft because you need to power massive amounts of electronics and carry enough payload to altitude. If your engine is half the output of the modern equivalent with 50% less engine life then it doesn't matter if you have better thrust to weight because you can't keep adding engines to an airframe to make up for it once you have 2

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Orlik

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The Red Arrows do a free display in my hometown pretty much every year in June and they like to fly over the houses at chimney height or zip between them through the gardens as they are making their way forwards on another pass as part of the main display and they'll do this for the best part of an hour or two.

    I'm not sure if the Blue Angels are as skilled as they are, but are they cool enough dudes to do canyon runs between civvie infrastructure for free?
    Because being able to do a Reverse 360 Cobra whilst blindfolded is cool and all, but it doesn't really beat the feeling of seeing a jet deploying smoke, do a loop and then rapidly grow larger as it shoots about 10-20ft over your head with the afterburner on full bore.

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >bongs

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      And of course OP again
      [...]
      >So far it’s
      >Red Arrows - 7
      >Blue Angels - 1

      OP

      [...]
      [...]
      OP SAMEgayGING with other devices

      It always seems to bewilder Americans when they find out they aren’t the best in EVERY single thing. I’m not going to hide the fact that I’m from the UK but damn if it isn’t easy to tell from our humility. Modest is severely rare in Americans.

      That said, Red Arrows by a million miles. The only good Blue Angel pilots are those with Anglo blood

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Statistically it's unlikely the best pilots are in Britain
        The numbers simply aren't on your side

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The yanks are like 40% white, and of that, most who join the air force are probably rednecks. Have you ever stepped outside of your country? Things are done differently. Hell, most of your actors are coked out, walking controversies meanwhilst ours are more well behaved, because we have better schools and actual acting academies.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Trying too hard

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Why are British people such gays?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Absolute schizo ramblings and same posting to try to make your shit anemic look like they are good at one single thing

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Neither, I like the Frecce Tricolori. Too bad they don't fly anymore in the US. I've been to one of their shows in 1986 and I was astonished.
    When I heard from a colleague working in Italy that they are replacing the old mb339 with a new aermacci that is underpowered and single engine I was sorely disappointed, especially considering they now won't be able to make quite a few of their famous manouvers.

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Thunderbirds > Blue Angels > Red Arrows

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The bong samegayging in this thread is the best advertisement for blue angel superiority.

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The Red Arrows fly trainers while the Blue Angles fly the actual fighting planes, my bet is with the Blue Angels.

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Hawk T1
    >hydraulics
    >F-18 Hornet
    >fly-by-wire

    Yeah it’s the Red Arrows, not even a contest.

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't necessarily think they're better, but I prefer the snowbirds

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Snowbirds
      Not even a leaf but I sorta agree. Snowbirds are an underrated team.

      Blue Angels, thought they were cooler in the 90's. Safety rules now won't let 'em do low level flybys where you can wave and see 'em wave back nor let 'em do runs down 4th Ave between the buildings

      I think one of the bigger hits the Blue Angel's shows have taken was the loss of the Fat Albert JATO demos

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Why can’t Americans act graciously in defeat?

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