that human wave tactics would not lead to victory in 2023. Surely scholars and tacticians will be studying this failure for decades to come.
that human wave tactics would not lead to victory in 2023. Surely scholars and tacticians will be studying this failure for decades to come.
So Ukraine will retake the 92% of Bakhmut they lost by the 9th, right? Or do they need another 100,000 troops first
I don't think Bakhmut is their main priority right now. Also Wagner isn't leaving until the 10th and I wouldn't be surprised if Wagner does a 360 and goes
>Actually since I am such a strong and loyal patriot I will stay and win Bakhmut for glorious Russia! Shells not no shells!
And then everybody will cheer and clap and say 'We love you Priggy!'.
>I don't think Bakhmut is their main priority right now.
Ah, I see. So half their military being in and around there was a feint.
What? Did you believe the meme edits people did of the Bakhmut zone where they kept adding more and more units to the Ukrainian side?
No, I'm believing the twitter posts by NAFO affiliates that indicated division-level mechanized attacks against Bakhmut's northern flank that definitely succeeded and cut off the siege.
>nafo
and thus the concern troll immediately outs himself, throwing the last few minutes of pretending to be neutral into the garbage
>I'm believing the twitter posts
You lost.
"They don't say what I want to believe so they are wrong not my beliefs."
Well lets see these twitter posts!
Why are you trusting shit on twitter without at least video evidence? Half of the Ukrainian military in such a small area would be visible on public satellite sites.
>that indicated division-level mechanized attacks against Bakhmut's northern flank that definitely succeeded and cut off the siege
May I see them?
>that definitely succeeded and cut off the siege.
May we see this siege?
Ah, yes, I, too, always get my military intel from terminally online Tw*tter trannies with doge avatars. Nothing more reliable than that, they get their info straight from Z-lensky himself.
>"if I don't get paid a shiton of money, you'll be humilated right before the parade".
I think it's more something like that.
having money for the incoming civil war/clusterfuck in russia is always good
Russia really isn't sending their best.
It's just as you said, or you wouldn't have made the thread. So Ukraine will retake the entire city in the next three days, right?
>we'll take Kiev in 3 days
>shit I meant, if Ukraine doesn't take back Bakhmut in 3 days we win
No, it will actually take them 14 days
I'll give them 9 months and 6 days to take it back, seems only fair.
>it's that retard that said ukrainians wouldn't be able to take back kherson or kharkiv
lmao. say Bakhmut is forever Russian fag.
Kharkov actually never fell despite it being literally right over the border. Russian army was that pathetic
> by the 9th
Three days is a mighty tight timetable, Anon. How long did it take the RF to occupy that 92% in the first place? A bit longer than 72 hours, if memory serves?
Germans held 90% of Stalingrad.
shows how pea-size brained vatniks are. They all obsess over one fucking tow, jesus chirst how much of a retard do you have to be
>Mein monke... Prigozhin...
Medvedev should be Bormann, right next to Putin
I mean, it worked to capture like 90% of Bakmut, at the expense of eliminating tens of thousands of criminal prisoners from Russia, so basically a win-win for them.
They're not retreating, though, they're still in Bakhmut and trying to gain territory as per UAF.
>They're not retreating
Again, Wagner is not pulling out until the 10th of May. That's 3 days away.
That would show signs of them preparing to leave, so far nothing indicates they're planning to.
Wagner doesn't have much to take. As already said here
it is probably just a ruse. But Kadyrov has said he is swapping positions with Wagner and Priggy has asked to swap too. So, we're going on what we think, rather than what they say? I know Russians lie and shit but it's only 3 days away. We'll find out.
>Chechens go to Bakhmut
This has to be bait, the city would be retaken within a week.
>human wave tactics would not lead to victory in 2023
hold up we haven't proved that quite exhaustively yet, let them try again
But seriously though, how can the city be taken without Wagner?
Wagner was only effective in taking the city because they had expendible convicts to use as bait/human waves. There is no way that tactic could be used so blatantly by the regular army or Chechens.
After seeing hours of footage from different times, units and theatres, I have to say that it's not so much a Human Wave Assault as it is like aftermath of a house party.
>Attacks start from piles of trash scattered around the living area
>Groups of six or less people blundering around aimlessly
>Sudden loud noises cause people to scatter in all directions in search of cover
>The neighbours keep buzzing you with their drones and it's giving everyone a severe migraine
>There is no clear beginning or end to it
>Human wave
60000 men rush a few dozen km wide front, overwhelming you. Think Tsunami.
>Russian trickle
8 men assault groups attack a single defensive position every 20 mns for 10 hours until the few guys defending it, and their reinforcements, run out of ammo and withdraw.
But last thing I read is that they are not leaving after all because the ammo extortion worked?
>that human wave tactics would not lead to victory in 2023
Looks like victory to me.
Kiev govt, globohomo and Poland lost.
>We only wasted all our shells, thousands of men and all our ammo to ALMOST capture a strategically unimportant city!
>THIS IS A RUSSIAN VICTORY!
my god, Russian second hand embossment is the strongest of weapons.
>>THIS IS A RUSSIAN VICTORY!
89,50% is more than 2,86%
east euro PrepHole posters and /r/ukraine on cope watch
3 days special military must be going well if expending your offensive potential capturing a small city in the Donbas over 9 months is considered a victory.
2 more weeks till spring offensive that changes everything kek
Kherson, Kupiyansk, and izium sre Russian forever, right vatnik? That is until they weren’t.
He's cleaning up the prisons, it means less mouths to feed and the kind of people who'd sign up for this are violent enough you don't want them back in society.
The ones demented enough to make it through the slaughter, with whatever fresh trauma they may have now released back into russian society
And the few who returned, are already committing new crimes.
So what, they'll just have to do another 6 months on the frontline.
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Real human wave tactics have never been tried.
There are many things scholars of future will study about this war.