While the US army just adopted an AR10 over sixty years late the Chinese have adopted an AR15/AR18 amalgamation with quite significant product improve...

While the US army just adopted an AR10 over sixty years late the Chinese have adopted an AR15/AR18 amalgamation with quite significant product improvements changes.

How does it feel that the Chinese now have a superior service rifle compared to USA who just went back to the antiquated concept of a battle rifle?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Someone post the webm of it keyholing at like 15 yards

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kys muttoid

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        why don't you post it vatnik?

        The duality of man

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Seethe harder micropenis bug.

        why don't you post it vatnik?

        Vatniks are pro-China. Orientals stick together

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        kys yellow moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        why don't you post it vatnik?

        >Plebbit retards immediately triggered by someone calling out their ccp propaganda
        You have to go back.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why don't you post it vatnik?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Kys muttoid

        hello slant eyed moron shills he posted the funny keyhole picture what's your response?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They have nothing and they know it, all they can do is try to save face and try again tomorrow

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          that its fake, like all vatmoron propaganda

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the "vatnik" spammers are Chinks
        I never expected this plot twist

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's a really bad gun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjsQ--XSviY

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        As its been explained before they were most likely using training/rubber rounds in the killhouse to avoid ricochets/shrapnel.

        https://i.imgur.com/4NgjNFJ.jpg

        >says its copy of ar-15
        >piston system and shares 0 parts other than pistol grip

        Pick related.

        It's actually a piece of shit, canadians got it iirc

        The type 97 gen three is actually a good pullpup for its price from the reviews I’ve seen. The older models where picky on mags and it still mangles brass but other than that it’s a good rifle.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          China so smart, China wait for murifats R&D and make better

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          -t. 16 year old that plays too much Arma

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            lmao another vatnik spotted, you won't confuse us ivan!

            In 2019 it was discord trannies posting shit like
            >no you’re the trannie
            In 2022 it’s Russian and chinks posting shit like
            >no you’re the vatnik

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Ukrainians are Nazis
              >We must de-nazify Ukraine
              >Now Ukrainians are garden gnomes.
              >?????

              Damn Vatniks can't keep their story straight

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Their story is very easy to straighten out.
                >We want their warm water ports, land access to Crimea that we stole in 2014, fresh water resources to stolen Crimea and their natural gas fields in the eastern part of their country.
                Anything else is just a lie.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You don’t even know how to probably respond in green text you stupid insect. I don’t even play video games.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          lmao another vatnik spotted, you won't confuse us ivan!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      As its been explained before they were most likely using training/rubber rounds in the killhouse to avoid ricochets/shrapnel.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like bugman cope

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Those also shouldn't keyhole.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          1:14 shouldn't have keyholed m193 either.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >what is overstabilization

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >More stability is bad
              Explain, I'm actually retarded.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Given a "just enough" stabilization spin you can maintain accuracy while increasing the probability of tumbling. The original AR15 with its 20 inch barrels with 1/14 twist using light weight lead core bullets resulted in high velocities, high probability of fragmentation, and therefore absolutely devastating wounds, nothing like it had been fielded by any army before. And then of course a commision came and ruined it all and we got fat bullets with steel penetrators shot out of short barrels with crazy tight twists and people are surprised it's icepicking and producing wounds like goddamn 22lr.

                It's surprising how much worse they managed to make the AR over the years.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A 20 inch with a 1:9 twist can still produce pretty good wounding with a 62 gr bullet.
                I've really never heard of any M4 having a problem with icepicking.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >1:14
            a barrel twist, and cartridge thats not in service? Is this supposed to mean something?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Different twists do different things to different length bullets. Training ammo can be different than combat ammo.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >rubber rounds
        >rounds impact blocks, breaking pieces of concrete off them
        Is it because the concrete you used in your cinder blocks is the same you used in constructing your high rises?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >manlet PRC has a knockoff of our former service weapon
    A generation behind as always.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The barrel doesn't even stabilizes the bullet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      is it fucking smoothbore jfc

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >riffiring spin burret for more acurrate shot?
      >okay, make burret spin like fat peking duck!
      >show amerrican pig dog china numbah 1!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      BTFO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >polymer receiver
      gay

      holy shit

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What’s with all the Chinese shills recently

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The US sailed 2 cruisers through the Taiwan Strait

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Mainland Taiwan won't be invading the true ruling force of Taiwan, so they are trying to save face by being stronk on Western internet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It gets (you)s now that everyone knows the russian military is a joke.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      china got humiliated by the US Navy after another final warning

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Still coping after getting punked by granny winebox Pelosi

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Source? Seems like it would be an amusing read.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Russians have been exposed so the usual suspects are moving on to the next thing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      /Leftypol/ and /bunkerchuds/ are raiding 4chins because of the keffals/kiwifarms debacle. Keffals called in army of neolib retards.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Vatmorons think sucking Chinese cock owns the libs

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The US didn't adopted the XM5 yet and the QBZ fucking suck

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I know this is bait but is there anything known about this gun that makes it any better in any way compared to the US service rifle? The Type-95 definitely had the better aesthetics, but does this thing have anything?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's actually a piece of shit, canadians got it iirc

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Seriously look at it. A stock that cannot be folded, rocking mags, front sight mounted on a plastic handguard, huge ejection port because they couldn't be bothered to fix ejection path by fixing the bolt and just enlarged the port instead until cases could have enough clearances, a rear sight that can't be removed from the upper and takes away rail estate...
      This is pants on head retarded, I can't see a single redeeming feature.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >rocking mags
        That's a pro, less prone to failure

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Rock in mags are more reliable to insert, the front sight is attached to the barrel, the ejection port is average sized, the rear sight is tiny and perfectly suitable as a backup sight.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >stock that cannot be folded
        it's not that important, you just read otherwise online
        >rocking mags
        it's not that important, you just read otherwise online
        >front sight mounted on a plastic handguard
        it's not that important, you just read otherwise online
        > huge ejection port because they couldn't be bothered to fix ejection path by fixing the bolt and just enlarged the port instead until cases could have enough clearances
        huh?
        >a rear sight that can't be removed from the upper and takes away rail estate
        you read this online especially "rail estate"
        >a single redeeming feature
        and because the only thing you know how to look for is the features you read about in consumer blogs, you don't see how this rifle that doesn't have any of them could be anything other than a complete failure.
        ease of manufacture and use are important, reliability and stopping power are important, all the bullshit you mentioned is irrelevant

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Chinese actually haven't really went with ease of manufacture with this one. If you look at it closely a lot of the parts, tiny and thin parts have been machined from a huge block of aluminum. This design is more like the engineers got a free hand in designing as good a rifle as they can. I guess they decided that they've got enough aluminum, CNC machines, and workers to splurge a bit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Don't forget
          >bullets that don't keyhole at 10 feet
          it's not that important, you just read otherwise online. This post has convinced me that China is strong and this rifle will totally be used in combat and not just on unarmed peasants. Truly the QBZ-69 Long Dong will be the instrument with which communism with Chinese characteristics and Xi Jinping thought overthrows the evil imperialist nazi garden gnome chud khoe-boilkilol w*ctroids.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I always suspected the people who keep spamming shit like the keyholing vid were the same ones spamming Ukraine shit so thanks for the confirmation

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It really makes you wonder what kind of person doesn't like totalitarian shitholes and their paid fearmongerers and will go out of their way to shit on both.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The same kind I guess who lacks the brain capacity to understand what rubber bullets are lmao

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Post guns with timestamp

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's a quite in depth breakdown on youtube by some Vietnamese-Canadian university educated engineer gun nerd.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >quite significant product improvements changes
    such as

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The trigger pack, bolt carrier system, and the gas system are very well thought out with some new and quite unique design solutions.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >design solutions.
        Which are?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          On youtube there is a quite comprehensive three part breakdown of the design features of the rifle based on public documents like patent drawings and pictures etc.
          I believe you will find it quite illuminating.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Chinese superior service rifle
    >Literally a CMMG MK47 Mutant
    Get fucked Chang. You didn't invent a new rifle, you just copied an existing "meh" range toy.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going to say it the chink's round is similar to 6.5 Grendel ballistics. We will be outgunned and outlogisitic when we find out that m14 2.00 was too heavy.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Implessive,

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/PeqPPCl.jpg

      While the US army just adopted an AR10 over sixty years late the Chinese have adopted an AR15/AR18 amalgamation with quite significant product improvements changes.

      How does it feel that the Chinese now have a superior service rifle compared to USA who just went back to the antiquated concept of a battle rifle?

      Impressive.
      With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Chinese dragon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Chinese quantum direct-current electricity, quantum aircraft carriers and quantum enhanced railguns will be the instruments with which China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >says its copy of ar-15
    >piston system and shares 0 parts other than pistol grip

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Correct.
      An AR-15 wouldn't keyhole at 15 yards.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The bolt carrier, bolt, recoil system and frame to name a few are all completely of AR-15 lineage without any connection to the AR-18.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Keyholing at 10 yards
      Maybe they should have copied the AR-15.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The barrel doesn't even stabilizes the bullet.

        See pic related, the DBF07 is a training round meant for relatively safe use in enclosed spaces.
        Though I must say that I would much prefer blanks or completely disintegrating bullets when surrounded by grunts in such close proximity but hey, I guess you can see the hits this way and nobody has to die because of a stray bullet.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >scared of shrapnel
          >scared of injuries
          >doesn't use simunition
          So China is poor and stupid

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kek.
    "quite significant product improvements" is not strategically or logistically superior.
    Not being able to see beyond own your nose, not being able to look beyond "face", is why the CPC would lose hard to NATO.
    If you want to see a significant change in the rifle game, look at the XMC Spear. Made with penetrating Chinese and Russian body armor in mind.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm curious to know if the Russians and Chinese will even HAVE body armor.
      I'm serious.
      China is not exactly known for its quality goods and Russia has shown itself to be inept at logistics.
      Logistics being the area where the US really shines, overall.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Spear is literally just a significantly worsened AR10 with rails and a stronger chamber. Absolutely no innovation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It also has the gay short-stroke piston instead of the Chad long-stroke or an internal piston. I give it 5 years before the army remembers why battle rifles are a stupid idea and go to the M4. If they want it updated they can have KAC make them. Or even HK if they want short-stroke done right

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If China is lucky maybe the US can give them sone foreign aid.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Rock in mags
    Dropped
    ...oh wait, you can't

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being Chinese and trying to defend West China

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Perfect for shooting uppity civilians

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Don't want those god damn Uyghur terrorists getting any funny ideas.
      Even in death they goose step. Traitors all of them.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you based ESL man but I’m not going to give myself a headache reading your slant eyed attempt at the English language.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >CCP makes two of the worst weapons in US military history have sex and gives the baby clothing made from cheap chinese polymer

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > Military just adopted an AR-10
    The Sig MCX Spear currently employed by the military has more in common with the SCAR and M14 than the AR-18. It ditched the guide rods, and it's now using the same dumbass short-stroke piston head long-stroke operating rod system that made the SCAR and M14 god awful.
    The AR-10 platform's operating system revolves around the buffer tube, which the QBZ has.
    The QBZ also uses a long-stroke gas piston, not a short-stroke piston, making it into an AR/AK hybrid and have nothing to do with the AR-18.

    > "significant product improvements changes."
    Firstly, learn basic fucking English, chink. Secondly, the only part of the QBZ to praise is the dual-chamber gas piston, which cools off the heat of the ridiculously overpressure ammo the Chinks think will actually stay on target at long ranges without a slight breeze blowing the bullets off-course.

    The QBZ is neat, but not something to praise. Even the god awful M14 would probably be more effective than that piece of garbage due to how the Corrupt Chink Party will skimp out on all the quality control like they did with their Tofu Dreg cities.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >product improvements changes.
    Literally the worst features of the AR and AK platforms combined in one.

    Zoom in on the ejection port - notice the little raise cutout on top towards the rear?
    Originally that was supposed to be square.
    Cartridge cases kept getting stuck there on extraction, so they literally took a hand file to the prototypes and shaved away at the port until they stopped having jams.
    So instead of fixing the problem which was caused by poor bolt engineering, they just integrated that little cutout into the final production model.
    I have pictures of this on my laptop, if you wait til 8AM eastern tomorrow I will post them if the thread is still up.

    That sort of engineering "chabudao" is rife throughout the weapon.
    I could write a ten page paper detailing all the faults and confusing design choices they've made and how disappointed I am that this is actually about to be fielded en masse by the PLA.
    China could do so much better than this.
    It's really quite a shame.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >So instead of fixing the problem which was caused by poor bolt engineering, they just integrated that little cutout into the final production model.
      Lmao a chinese knockoff forward assist in a way.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >China could do so much better than this
      In imagination land, sure.
      This product is 100% China Number One and you know it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The bolt is a four lug bolt. The placement of the extractor and the ejector are pretty much completely fixed. Adjusting the ejection port is literally the most logical way of addressing the issue you dumb fucking retard.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't PLA just copy the T91? It's a AR15/AR18 amalgamation, too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's shit compared to the QBZ?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >gee billy, mom lets you have two lens covers?

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Everything from china is shit especially the "people". They're Asia's america so to speak.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      America has the best anything, there’s a reason why we rule the world

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sneed

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's literally an sg552?

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