Which is deadlier?

Which is deadlier?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    9mm hollowpoints

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming we're talking about human size or larger targets, the slug. It can kill at ranges where buckshot will not. At close range slugs drop deer and hogs faster and more effectively than buckshot.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also, #4 beats 00 by a tiny bit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only if you're a wimpy little nerd boy. For real, strong, badass red-blooded men, 00 buckshot works the best. Don't try to argue, I know I'm right and I will not elaborate or explain.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's generally the same weight and velocity of shot moron.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          #4 typically has more muzzle energy though.
          Scared of recoil or something?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Buckshot up close and slugs out further. Deforming slugs do a whole lot of work as long as velocity is fairly high though(dont tell the YouTube ballistics gel crowd this) so the gap isn't exactly massive with some slug designs.

        Nope, #4 is garbage, it doesn't penetrate reliably in real world circumstances which is why so many LEAs stopped issuing it.

        Only if you're a wimpy little nerd boy. For real, strong, badass red-blooded men, 00 buckshot works the best. Don't try to argue, I know I'm right and I will not elaborate or explain.

        Dumb

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >many LEAs stopped issuing it.
          Which presumably is for cruisers, so distances significantly longer than my hallways.
          And I am not trying to pen a vehicle, just nogs and tweakers.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, it'd fail after things like extra heavy clothing, screen doors, non ideal shot angles, etc. if you check out hunting results on deer you'll frequently see #4 buck penetrating but not perforating major thoracic organs on broadside deer shots at reasonable(for the context) distances. It's on the bad side of marginal penetration. I'd suggest looking into it yourself if you don't believe me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Also, #4 beats 00 by a tiny bit.
        KEK, actually believing this.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The one you hit with

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1 of 9 beats 0 of 1.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is no spread at self-defense distances. Even at 30 feet, 00 buck has a spread of like 4-5 inches at best.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Either 000 buck or a slug. Everything else fails to meet fbi ballistics standards.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So are the thousands of people killed by 00 and smaller shot now not dead because of your appeal to authority?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      depending on the range something as low a #4 buck can meet the penetration standards

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everybody always wants the largest buckshot for 12 gauge possible for defensive use. Never made any sense. #2 buckshot from a 20 gauge is devastating for defensive use and the follow up shots you can get with it are immaculate. 12 gauge really should only be used for hunting animals when a 20 gauge would fall short.

      The funny thing is 20 gauge slugs actually have better long range performance than 12 gauge slugs.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        12 gauge slugs are good for 100 yards, they're fine.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >long range performance
        Not the same as long range lethality. A .22lr is more accurate than my slug gun at 200yd.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Everything else fails to meet fbi ballistics standards
      wrong.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >wrong
        Wrong

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >wrong
          maximally wrong

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    home defense, buckshot. across the street, slug.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just shoot him with both?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My homie. Shotgun change over is an extremely valuable skill.
      Or vary the tube like a noob.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .22lr
    it will bounce around in your rib cage

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