Which do you prefer?

M193 vs. M855

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    M80 ball

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This anon knows

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/J6Ukq9b.jpg

      This anon knows

      based

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      true facts here

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    M855 costs more than M193 and has worse effects on target, though it does have a slightly higher BC, but not as high as MK262.
    There's not much point to using green tip if you aren't issued the stuff. As a civilian, we can buy much more effective stuff than either load and still stack deep on M193. Or Mk262 if you're a richfag

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mk262

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    77gr otmhp
    55gr is fine out of longer barrels or for practice

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what is 73gr Tipped
    what is 77gr TMK

    What is anything OTHER than m855 and M193

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What is anything OTHER than m855 and M193
      more expensive is what it is

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >77gr
      >loses all the benefits of 5.56
      Ngmi anon, might aswell stop coping and get 300 blacked instead

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't feel strongly about 5.56. There are so many better calibers and more important choices to make.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Personally I like 62 grain. I don't think the difference in velocity matters much since they both hit above 3000 fps and I'd rather have the little bit of extra penetration, weight retention, and sectional density. Plus it's not much more expensive

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    M8555a!1>mk318>Black Hills 50 grain> m193>m855
    fight me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I prefer M193 because of the slightly higher velocity. For home defense I have a mag full of Speer gold dot law enforcement 62 grain.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    M193 benefits
    >slightly cheaper
    >better terminal performance
    >Higher velocity

    M855 advantages
    >Can penetrate a very specific piece of metal at a very specific distance that vaguely resembles an archaic vatnik helmet
    >Is "mil spec" (like acu camo, omelette MREs, and other quality kit)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >M855 advantages
      You can ventilate ceramic/UHMWPE plates with it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only level 3. It's 2023. No one has level 3 plates anymore

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The vast majority of ceramic Level III plates stop M855.

        >77gr
        >loses all the benefits of 5.56
        Ngmi anon, might aswell stop coping and get 300 blacked instead

        Actual retard. Damage is not solely dependent on velocity. 77 gr TMK is an expanding bullet that fragments to a greater degree, is less affected by wind, and retains effective terminal performance out to a far longer range than M193.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The vast majority of ceramic Level III plates stop M855.

        [...]
        Actual retard. Damage is not solely dependent on velocity. 77 gr TMK is an expanding bullet that fragments to a greater degree, is less affected by wind, and retains effective terminal performance out to a far longer range than M193.

        Only level 3. It's 2023. No one has level 3 plates anymore

        Even many UHMWPE plates stop M855. M193 on the other hand can zip through steel better, which includes both plates and homemade armor.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The UHMWPE penetration capability of M855 is really pretty nominal yes. Given that the combination of real world ranges, angles, and safety margins will very likely conspire to result in a failure to penetrate.

          That being said I think I’ve seen only 1 or 2 Level III pure UHMWPE plates stop M855 consistently out of a 16” barrel at NIJ testing distances, and I’m not certain about that.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who the fuck likes M855, besides maybe infantrymen? I have a bunch, and it mostly just sits around since you can't use it on steel targets.

    I only really use it when I hunt hogs with my AR (which I rarely do anymore) or when I'm zeroing a rifle on paper.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you zero a rifle with it if you otherwise don't use it? The a fore mentioned hog hunting?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    M855A1 ofc.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >M193
    >better and more consistent terminal ballistics
    >at close ranges and out of long barrels it actually penetrates some of the shitty steel "lvl III" plates that M855 won't, due to the higher velocity
    ...
    >M855
    >has a cool looking green tip I guess

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The extra 7 grains does help with wind at range.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I'm expecting the possibility of needing to shoot through windshields, m855. Otherwise, m193.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Crayons

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seeing as my Sporter is of 1968 vintage with the 1:16” rifling, it’s M-193 for me!

    I was in the Marines when we got the M16A2. A Pogue-designed gun for the benefit of Pogues.
    Completely fucked up the entire point of the terminal ballistics design in the chase for “muh better ACCURACY!”.

    Frankly, even the 1:16” twist was an Army BUord fuck-up. Should have left it at 1:18” like the original. You don’t need tack drivers when 30 assholes are taking pot shots at Luke the moron.
    Someone is gonna ding him, and when that happens, you need that yawing and tumbling in his guts to fuck up his Little Yellow Maoist Love Machine.
    Not punch little .22 holes through and through.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1968 vintage with the 1:16” rifling
      >Should have left it at 1:18”
      The original was 1:14" and there is no SP1 (Colt R6000) with a twist rate slower than 1:12"

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Whatever is cheaper on ammoseek that week. You do have rifles of different twist rates and barrel length, right?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    193 because indoor ranges don't let me shoot 855 🙁

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