Which African nation is the most poised to become the most powerful military power on the continent?

Which African nation is the most poised to become the most powerful military power on the continent? Which African nation has the most elite military on the continent?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    South Africa.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, the military is in the shitters. We grounded our Gripens until recently. We have like 10 mbts operational. The rest are all in storage.
      Funding has been cut, especially after the arms deal corruption scandal.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The country is literally is falling due to decades of mismanagement under the ANC.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      on its way to being a failed state

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nigeria. Without contest.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Nigeria is surprisingly well developed and has lots of financial respn2tjources.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    None. Tribalism doesn't allow any 1 tribe to build a big enough military.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ghana or Nigeria

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're all dogshit because they're all morons but Nigeria is the most competent by far.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    anyone know egypt is doing?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're playing SimCity in the desert.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most powerful? Egypt or Ethiopia.
      Most elite? Rwanda.

      Probably Egypt who's been putting a shitload of funding into their military to prepare for the inevitable conflict with Ethiopia. South Africa has the best special forces units in Africa but the rest of it's military is decaying and has had it's funding cut every year and and will continue to have it cut for years to come to the point where it might not even be relevant.

      Egypt

      Egypt.

      Egypt

      Egypt is on paper really good but I have a feeling they're a paper tiger military on the scale of Russia. No agricultural surplus capacity and a truly staggering level of corruption within the military/government dynamo. Meanwhile they're wasting inordinate volumes of wealth making new capitols here and there rather than trying to irrigate more of the desert or establish agricultural sustainability again.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nigeria

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most powerful? Egypt or Ethiopia.
    Most elite? Rwanda.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Only 1 out of every 2 hands that apply are accepted.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        for a second i thought this was a joke about Belgian rubber plantations.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Rwanda
      >still swallowing bullshit CNN propaganda about Kagame from 25 years sgo

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's Africa, not being a totally unstable shithole puts you in practically elite status there.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >25 years ago
        hardly, they performed quite well in Mozambique over the last 2-3 years
        granted, it's Subsaharan Africa, so to be elite requires merely to be competent

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably Egypt who's been putting a shitload of funding into their military to prepare for the inevitable conflict with Ethiopia. South Africa has the best special forces units in Africa but the rest of it's military is decaying and has had it's funding cut every year and and will continue to have it cut for years to come to the point where it might not even be relevant.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    that's like asking which turd smells the best

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Officially? The one that can leverage their lithium mines into a local infrastructure support project to build local refinement for more effective transport

    The PrepHoleanswer? The one who has the defense minister that popped up here on africa time asking questions, and getting our opinions and spitballing plans based on defense partner. That was a fun thread.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not thinking that was a huge, yet fun larp
      newfags

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nigeria is pretty much already the de-facto leader of ECOWAS with the closest thing to a modern military that any sub-saharan african country has.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nigeria will also have a larger population than the US by 2100, by a good margin. SSA just passed a billion people but will have more people than all of Asia by 2100. 1:2 people under 18 will be African then.

      Since developed industries have low rates of return, expect a lot of investment focus to shift their. But also they have very weak states, incredibly young populations, incredible poverty, and they're about to get fucked by global warming. Unfortunately, this has "war and crisis," written all over it.

      There will also be massive out migration, to Europe particularly, but everywhere. 2015 will look like a trickle. The US border will look like a trickle. 2 million moving in a year? Imagine 200 million. The population difference will be that large

      Officially? The one that can leverage their lithium mines into a local infrastructure support project to build local refinement for more effective transport

      The PrepHoleanswer? The one who has the defense minister that popped up here on africa time asking questions, and getting our opinions and spitballing plans based on defense partner. That was a fun thread.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Nigeria will also have a larger population than the US by 2100
        >Believing in future population estimates almost 100 years into the future
        Lol, no

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good, hopefully migration will be large enough that it'll actually force the west to defend its borders.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's pointless to predict demographics 80 years from now, so many radical changes will happen between now and then. Imagine someone from 1910 predicting the demographics of Europe in 1990. Think about how wrong they would be. That's what you're doing.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just found a German guy that in 1954 predicted global population would peak at 9.1 billion "in the first half of the 21st century"

          I'm pretty impressed

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Nigeria will also have a larger population than the US by 2100
          >Believing in future population estimates almost 100 years into the future
          Lol, no

          Actually, demographic predictions after decent statistical methods developed have been pretty on point. Barring major wars, disasters, or epidemics, they've generally hit their admittedly large margins of error since after WWII, 70 years.

          Birth rates fall as countries develop, and there is now tons of historical data to help with modeling. Even the low end projections have Africa exploding, and it's not hard to see why. Some countries have a median age of 14, half the population is under that. Developed countries are more around 40. Women are still having a large number of children.

          Drop offs in number of births lag development. The social changes of even breakneck development, like Korea or Japan, still don't hit the first generation that hard in terms of reproduction, nor often the second fully. So the combo of rapidly living life expectancy and just a population of a billion having 5 live births per woman already means massive growth.

          Religion is also protective against falling birth rates, and Islam appears to have a stronger effect. Africa is very religious with a large Muslim population. On top of this, both Christians and Muslims still restrict any access to birth control in wide areas.

          What is extra crazy is that US right wing fundied actually put a lot of money into keeping birth control banned in Africa. They can't do it at home so they do it there. But they'll also cry when 8 million Africans, now wealthy enough to travel, try to settle in the US because weak states and climate change make their country unlivable.

          Aside from migration effects, developed countries have also had good accuracy in predictions.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No religion stands up against the biggest god, Comfort. Look at second-gen immigrants from both staunchly catholic and muslim countries to the first world. Their birth rate plummet to nearly identical level as natives have.
            Beyond that, to put it all on lack of contraceptives/religion in Subsaharan is a just too "scientific" view on it. People there just like to fuck, anon. And whatever you claim microplastics, shitty diet, sedentary lifestyle or some conspiracy, it does not change a fact that when African girl ovulates and you coom into her, she WILL get pregnant, while back in the first world, couples often have to put great effort into getting lady with a child. Put 1 and 1 together.
            I've worked in Kenya for a long time. Majority of women can get on the pill, there are free (!) rubbers available everywhere too. But for numerous reasons they simply don't care to use it and will often get angry/sad if you even mention it.
            This is only "fixable" if you again start implementing comfort. Put it bluntly, when there are other things to do than just fucking. When I was in Kenya in 2011, local birth-rates were around 4.5. Now they are around 3.5 - that is after only after some 11 years of rather gradual progress.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You do not have a gun

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >US right wing fundied actually put a lot of money into keeping birth control banned in Africa.
            The right wing or the Christians? I find it very hard to believe that the republicans give a shit about West Africa except for dat oil.
            Also Bill Gates pumps money to population control through his foundation, he's the one singlehandedly fixing TFR in Kenya.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Nigeria
    2 south Africa

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Muslims and communists will always destabilize Africa. They can't even get basic agriculture accomplished. Sending foriegn aid only funds the war lords. France trying to maintain a presence there is basically the biggest reason why Africa keeps getting the problems it does. Africa does not want Europeans in it. They prop it up enough and beg their allies to send relief to fund the muslim crusaders that sweep through the region unimpeded.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The extremely low IQs and less developed prefrontal cortexes (long term planning, impulse control) don't help either.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Africa does not want Europeans in it.
      Go ahead and tell all the morons and sand morons that all the White gibs will get cut off, see what happens. The only reason most of Africa isn't seeing mass die off's due to starvation is that White people keep sending them money and food as well as importing them in mass in to their countries.
      The good news is that once Europe starts gets to similar racial proportions as the US all of this falls apart since other than Whites and Easts Asians there isn't any race of people that can maintain a function state above a 3rd world level.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        most countries don't even get gibs anymore, only total shitholes like in the sahel or some shit

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          in africa, i mean

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Go ahead and tell all the morons and sand morons that all the White gibs will get cut off, see what happens.
        this guy thinks charities and aid are actually legit, he chose the blue pill

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You really believe that? You legitimately believe that if it weren't for western """"""""aid"""""" all hell would break lose? You're so naive. This """""""aid""""" is nothing more than money laundering, everyone knows that by now.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >""""""""
          back to tumblr with you.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Go ahead and tell all the morons and sand morons that all the White gibs will get cut off, see what happens.
          this guy thinks charities and aid are actually legit, he chose the blue pill

          >Thirdies trying to cope with the fact that they live in failed states that would immediately collapse without western charity

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ctrl+f "angola"
    >crickets
    come on now, PrepHole

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nigeria. I've met a ton of Nigerians, they're the only Sub-Saharan Africans with an average IQ anywhere near 100. North of the Sahara is all Arab and Berber shitholes that will be nothing but refugee waystations in another ten years.

      Neither of those states has a surplus agriculture to feed the population they acquired. These people can't feed themselves, they're not going to march into another area and feed twice as many hungry mouths. They're going to destabilize the region, have angry hungry people dying blaming them for it. Redistributing the land as if you're rome circa 2000 years ago doesn't work gay

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Hungry foreigners who can't beat your military
        Sounds like a problem that solves itself lol.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nigeria. I've met a ton of Nigerians, they're the only Sub-Saharan Africans with an average IQ anywhere near 100. North of the Sahara is all Arab and Berber shitholes that will be nothing but refugee waystations in another ten years.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      typical retard take

      you met oil people with wealth not the typical nigerian. Berbers are 100 times smarter. Kabyle region is one of the most developed regions in Africa. Dont blame them for living under corrupt arabs

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Uganda is a major regional power with a pretty competent army. Rwanda is an army with a state (both armies were started by the same people)

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Algeria

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Biafra

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Egypt

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Egypt.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No African country will even be a world class military power. Nigeria's entire GDP is lower than what the U.S. spends on defense.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ever, not even.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Will argue for Nigeria and Ethiopia, possibly South Africa if it brings itself to recover from its economic tailspin. If Nigeria continues successfully with anti-corruption policy and economic development it's poised to become one of the world's larger countries and single economies, while also having credible threats to spur effective military force growth in the northern Islamist insurgents. Ethiopia is in a similar boat, should it be able to get its damned dam built. South Africa is in one of the best starting places but needs to not undergo state decay due to internal strife.

    Rwanda is in the upper echelon of current powers, but is limited enough in growth potential that I doubt it can surpass any of the really big boys if they stabilize. DRC is in the opposite situation, big enough to sustain vast power projection but starting from a bad enough spot to make its growth/recovery prospects tenuous.

    If the East African Federation project ever granulates it has a lot of potential, but that's a very big "if."

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Egypt

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Better question: Which dark black African country has the best fighters? It's a bit generous to call them militaries when you see how outsiders walk all over them.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There’s no hope in this continent now that the crackers and honkys have left China is going to own the place in 100 years belt and road initiative and what not they’re either too stupid or corrupt or both to realize the chinese aren’t ones to fuck around or have guilty feelings for doing what is best for china

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      moron in 100 years there won't be a China. They dropped a trillion dollars on trains to nowhere.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    South Africa followed by Nigeria, Congo could do it too if they ever got their shit together

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Climate change will cause die offs faster than people can adapt or even migrate out of Africa.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably something like Egypt Ethiopia or Nigeria simply because of future population size.
    Obviously it isn't that simply alone but having people and potentially having a big economy from all those people helps with having a powerful military. There is room for an African Prussia in there, a small state with a powerful military for its size too.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I could go back in time as an immortal I'd just impregnate every woman in Africa for a thousand years as a public service.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a white guy whos lived all his life in 14 diffrent african nations.....they all are incompetent. However the king of the retards would be Nigera.
    South Africa has too much internal strife, Angolans should be top dog but they are dumb and lazy even by moron standards. Tanzania has a smart Indian upper class but no support. Everyone else is barley capable of making anything

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Uganda. They got trillions in gold.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which will get funneled to the political elite. Ordinary Ugandans won't see a penny. They will just pay off army generals to keep the locals in check.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah well the question wasn't
        >which state will improve the welfare of the people
        but
        >who is poised to become the most powerful military power
        And money can do that. The money is spent to make an army that can control the people and potentially invade others. Rwanda is basically an in-land Singapore, kinda a trading hub.... could be possible with 20 years odd of spending to get a military to grab it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Yeah well the question wasn't
          >which state will improve the welfare of the people
          A few hundred new Russian BTR's and paying soldiers extra to be loyal isn't going to make Uganda into Africa's strongest military. The army is simply there to keep citizens from rebelling.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We should let India, China, and the middle east colonize a third of Africa and see who's mutant half breed race does the best, as a game.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    None. Their situation is such that when one begins to gain an edge they'll go full retard and lose it before gaining momentum.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The east African alliance of Rwanda, Tanzania, Kenya and Uganda

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Economically speaking, first subsaharan country that will probably "make it" in near future is Kenya, followed by Ghana and Tanzania. Staying in these countries is already extremely comfy even longer-term, not to mention they are fairly safe and offer first world tier luxury if you want.
    Since economical prosperity is fairly good factor in quality of military, I would say one of these three. Of course, there is also a China who could be used in this regard in that "consent" meme, but that is a whole another question.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they are fairly safe and offer first world tier luxury if you want.
      please elaborate for the sake of curiosity

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you stick to their capitals or second largest cities and you are ready to shell out some cash (but still pretty cheap to travel and stay in) you can easily live in pretty much same way as in any western capital. Same safety, same luxury. Picrel is Accra, Ghana. Then again, that kinda defeats purpose of travelling to subsaharan if you ask me. But the fact it is possible, shows that some tremendous progress were done in roughly last ten years.
        There are still whole lots of issues and whole lot of places that are dangerous to visit after dark, but I am pretty optimistic about the future of those countries I mentioned.
        Finally, if you are a white dude, I don't think it is possible to NOT get laid there.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Finally, if you are a white dude, I don't think it is possible to NOT get laid there.
          Which country had the hottest and nicest women?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Kenya for tight athletic young girls, Ghana for thick mommy tier women with fat tits. Both also kinda-sorta English speakers. But as it is Africa, most common type is a girl with insanely hot curves and terrible case of a butterface. Still, plenty of hot girls around, but you have to look for them. Try it out, if you have a Tinder account, set your passport to Mombasa, Nairobi or Accra, give it hour or something and you'll have 20+ likes lining up.
            As for personality, I think most are fairly fun to be around, lively (like to fuck a L O T, like to go out, eat, just live), quite bubbly often. Also terribly fucking jealous to the point of physically assaulting with other women who just looked at you for a few seconds longer than what is allowed, will stalk your ass too and are prone for making drama - not because they would like to make your day bad or they had something against you, but because it is fun. Being fairly trad is kinda common too, I remember one girl being severely insulted with me just asking if she needs help with cleaning up the kitchen.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          lmao looks like Tyson's Corner, route 7, 30 years ago
          am i rite glowies?

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Morocco?
    They've got 300 Abrams. I think their air force is a bit dated, though.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Egypt
    >Nigeria
    >Rwanda
    >Angola
    >Morocco
    Name this alliance.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Enram, duh. Can you not read?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      NWA?

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Exactly. Nigerian troops get consistent combat experience

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Despite being a shitshow its still South Africa and will continue to be South Africa for a very long time.

    Its the only military on the continent that can kind of do the things modern militaries do - quasi netcentric warfare, proper encrypted long range comms, modern gear, a genuine coherent doctrine that is frequently practiced. Thinks like a SF submarine action group, comprehensive pre-deployment training programs, a genuine airmobile formation, decent long range guns, modern-ish SHORAD and a recent move towards bespoke BCT's.

    Sad thing is that with slightly more spending and a little less corruption and South Africa could be one of those awesome binland-tier militaries who are absolute masters of a very specific kind of warfare. That aside they stand head and shoulders above anyone else in "black" Africa (obvi. the North Africans are on a whole other level).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      South Africa is “black” Africa you retard. Boers are not African in the same way bulbheaded Somalis aren’t Swedish

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Boers are not African
        Boers have been in South Africa for centuries and black South Africans consider them native to South Africa. Sure there are political flare ups now and then but its a family fight.For example black South Africans refer to Africans from other countries on the continent as "foreigners" in a derogatory way.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >black South Africans consider them native to South Africa.
          The second most popular party in South Africa wants to deport all boer out of the country and the ANC routinely sing "Kill the Boer" as a unification song. Your high if you think black south africans think of boers as "natives".

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This. Bump.
            Which is unfortunate because

            >Boers are not African
            Boers have been in South Africa for centuries and black South Africans consider them native to South Africa. Sure there are political flare ups now and then but its a family fight.For example black South Africans refer to Africans from other countries on the continent as "foreigners" in a derogatory way.

            is correct. They've been there for ~400 years and unlike all other european ventures in the continent. These guys came to settle, not to colonise, conquer or convert. Though they have done much of all 3 and do have themselves to blame for quite a lot of their problems. But a Boer is African, through and through. Such a shame the EFF is a bunch of racist cuntstains.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Egypt without a doubt

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Morocco has top tier intel (they hacked European presidents phones) + the best infrastructure in Africa + a diverse economy

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Algeria. Maybe Egypt or Ethiopia.

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's stylish. If there's one thing Africa is good at, it's style.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Those lads and that background, peak art.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nigeria.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Apparently Botswana is pretty stable, is getting training from the US and nearly all of it is NATO/Isreal spec. I'd put my money on them becoming more prominent.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's that gun chambered in?

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For various reasons that all relate to the name it's obviously Chad.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Algeria and Egypt

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In theory South Africa, though the ANC and EFF have made sure this theory remains a theory. Otherwise, Egypt or Nigeria.

    Fucking black empowerment laws. I saw more saffers in boarding school claiming and hoping to never go back than hong kongers running away from Xi. They're so fucking corrupt. It should be a first world country, they had all the ingredients delivered to them on a platter in 1994 to do so. But no they squandered that chance and now 53% of South African graduates want to leave for good.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Angola
    No, I will not explain, if you know you know

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    USA

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