Which 10mm 1911

Which 10mm 1911 is the best 10mm 1911? No I'm not interested in anything else in 10mm that's not a 1911 pattern.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what is best thing
    shut the frick up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >goes to the weapons board for advice on weapons
      >gets told to shut up
      kys, not everything needs to be about war.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's not even remotely the point

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You won't buy anything homosexual you're just wasting a thread slot with this larp.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like my RIA doublestack, but I don't have an expert opinion.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How does it shoot? Looking for another pistol to complement my P30 but I'm not interested in 45.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I would implore you to consider a USP45, as you can readily load .45 Super.
        10mm is a great cartridge, just understand that most commercial loads for it at a reasonable price are downloaded to high hell and back (because of 10mm 1911 kB!'s) and are basically just .40S&W +P at a premium.
        Boutique full power 10mm loads are going to be cost equivalent to .45 Super anyway

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If I'm going to go .45 super is there any reason not to go for a MK23 over a USP45? Prices seem similar enough

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You give up a plethora of different trigger configurations some of which are going to vastly improve your trigger feel including the improved DA/SA match trigger (match with short reset kit), and the LEM Match Hybrid.

            You give up magazine extensions, RDS cut options, for a larger heavier brick of a pistol with a larger grip

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So OP is a tard, but the USP is shit, and 45 super is ultra garbage.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >buying boutique ammo
          >not reloading hotter shit for less than the cost of cheap target ammo
          Ngmi
          USP45 is based for getting actual magnum handgun power. 45 SUPER with a 6" comped barrel can easily break 1000ft-lbs, which makes it legal for handgun hunting in some states. Even without a comp you can safely shoot loads that are more powerful than the hottest boutique 10mm.

          If I'm going to go .45 super is there any reason not to go for a MK23 over a USP45? Prices seem similar enough

          USP is a more refined pistol for half the price and it has available 5 and 6in slides. Only reason to get mk23 is for vidya larp

          So usp45s dont need a different spring for supers? Have an expert

          Mine handles it fine even with the 4.4" slide. Some magazine tested a stock usp with like 5k rounds of 45 super with no issues

          So OP is a tard, but the USP is shit, and 45 super is ultra garbage.

          Cope

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are really pushing the bar on reliable function with 10mm in a 1911. Frame and slide cracks galore - esp frame cracks
      There is a reason why most 10mm chonky bois will tell you to look at the G20/G29/G40 but if you want to be an absolute homosexual and get your heart broken by a single stack then Colt Delta Elite it is

      Try a 10mm 2011 instead, it will eliminate the more common frame cracking issues due to 2 piece frame (Grip module is plastic), you are on your own with the slide, but still generally in a better spot as many 2011 frames are thicker for MRDS use.
      You aren't left with alot of options though and the cheapest "entry" level option will be Girsan/EAA turkshit
      https://eaacorp.com/product/girsan-witness2311-double-stack/

      Options aside from Turkshit would be Cosaint Arms and Guncrafter but you are looking at $2,600-$4,800

      STI made 10mm 2011's before they changed the brand name to Staccato, you might be able to find one used

      Ignore this, a comically large amount of them have cracked when shooting anything but the weakest loads

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you anon, I want an 1911 but I don't care for .45 so 10mm it is. I'll take a look for STI/Staccato or look for 2011s

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          1911 or 2011 or even going the glockgay 10mm route understand that you are going to need an increased power recoil spring for the hot 10mm stuff, I haven't heard of many problems with the older STI's and they are probably saved by their chonky slide and thicc barrels but they cycle VIOLENTLY

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In that case is the Magnum Research 10mm even worth looking at? The price is good.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Single stack
              >unitary frame 1911's
              No

              10mm full power is going to kill most 1911's, practically all factory options, custom 1911's like Dan Wessons with thicker slides and barrels and better frames are soing to need tuning.

              Forget about 10mm 1911's, go the 2011 route unless you want what is in effect a .40S&W 1911.
              Consider another caliber like .38 Super or .45 Super if you just have to have a 1911 that isn't in 9mm or .45ACP

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who is even making 2011s in 10mm that isn't turkshit or flipshit?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pre-Staccato STI's exist
                Cosaint Arms and Guncrafter are current production but $$$$$$$$$

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lame
                2011s are increasing in popularity, and so is 10mm, so maybe a somewhat reasonably priced one will come along.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >10mm 1911
                This is the most /k/eddit gun ever. Only way it could possibly be more reddit is if it was made by CZ and it was limited to 10 round proprietary magazines so it would be blue state compliant. Only .45 is true; 10mm is homosexual hipster bullshit. Next thing you are going to tell me is about you wife's boyfriend, your vasectomy, muh big city, muh exposed brick walls, and muh ipa at the barcade.

                >verification not required

                Turkshit and flipshit is ironically just as gud up until the $3,000+ custom job gucci 1911's price point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This is the most /k/eddit gun ever
                yes and? I already have a 9mm HK. I don't really want an AR/AK pattern gun and I like hiking.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > I don't really want an AR/AK pattern gun
                AR pattern guns are sick. You can get a pistol variant one if you want. Are they banned where you live?

                >I already have a 9mm HK
                Those are supposed be robust? What is wrong with what you have already? You don't need us to justify a new gun purchase. If you want something and you can afford it, just buy it. You don't need to justify it to anyone. I'm not sold on 10mm, but I like talking shit about 10mm, and it is just shitposting. Tbh, I would probably go with a 1911 were I to get into that caliber just because I like that platform that much, even if it was not the most "optimal".

                >I like hiking
                Do you live in grizzly/polar bear county? What you have probably okay if not. Again, you don't us to justify a purchase.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >AR pattern guns are sick. You can get a pistol variant one if you want. Are they banned where you live?
                nope, just not interested.
                >Do you live in grizzly/polar bear county? What you have probably okay if not. Again, you don't us to justify a purchase.
                Not trying to justify, just heading off the usual "Just buy a 9mm". I want a 10mm, and I want a 1911 pattern gun..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nope, just not interested.
                Fair enough, not everyone is going to like everything.

                >Not trying to justify, just heading off the usual "Just buy a 9mm". I want a 10mm, and I want a 1911 pattern gun..
                If that is what you want, that is want you want. I am not a 10mm guy, so take whatever I say with a grain of salt. I mentioned turkishit and flipshit being just as good in an earlier post, but I was serious about that part. I have a Tisas in .45 and I like it a whole lot. I would recommend that to anyone looking for a 1911. It is one of the few cases where the cheapest actually is one of the best options. I've been through 300ish rounds with it and I had 2 or 3 failure to feeds with the first round of the magazine. It ran flawlessly other than that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I like hiking
                Literally every time a 9mm has been used against a grizzly/brown /black bear has be successful

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Customs sound alright then. Haven't found any 2011s in 10mm that aren't turkshit though

                [...]
                What the frick is this AI and/or Google translate bullshit?

                Frick ya mudda

                So OP is a tard, but the USP is shit, and 45 super is ultra garbage.

                I already have an HK.

                Glock 20 is best 10mm

                Frick you and glawk.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Would you mind sharing your experience with 10mm 1911s so that we may know you are not talking out your ass?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >1911 in 10mm kills itself

                im sure they have, but i havent seen this once i myself. is this like the aug moron who keeps posting that one aug split in half as is claiming this is a rampant issue??

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                460 Rowland…

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/pPtiCxn.jpeg

          Which 10mm 1911 is the best 10mm 1911? No I'm not interested in anything else in 10mm that's not a 1911 pattern.

          What the frick is this AI and/or Google translate bullshit?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >want an 1911 but I don't care for .4
          We're living in the golden age of 9mm 1911s, anon...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My understanding is that the frame cracking issues are solved so long as you use a modern forged frame.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >mentions Guncrafter
        >doesn't mention .50 GI.
        Disgust.
        >bu-butttt he wanted to know abou -
        Total disgust.
        Op, 10mm 1911s are b***hen'. Don't buy a cheap one. Never, ever buy a cheap 1911. Kimber<Springfield is the cheapest I would go. Unfortunately, Springfield 1911s are no longer slept on. They know what they've got. A new TRP 1 cent will be around 2k. Id just go with a Delta.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Had a Colt Delta Elite Series 80.
          >not a fully supported Chamber
          Springfield TRP in 10mm is good way to go.
          Works well with Cobra mags as well. (9+ of them myself)
          Loves Underwood Heavy loads and is accurate to a fault. 2moa DOT on my RMR makes first shots very easy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Single stack
        >unitary frame 1911's
        No

        10mm full power is going to kill most 1911's, practically all factory options, custom 1911's like Dan Wessons with thicker slides and barrels and better frames are soing to need tuning.

        Forget about 10mm 1911's, go the 2011 route unless you want what is in effect a .40S&W 1911.
        Consider another caliber like .38 Super or .45 Super if you just have to have a 1911 that isn't in 9mm or .45ACP

        >Source: My cavernous ass when my neighbor reached inside

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only get a Dan Wesson 10mm if you dont mind tuning your own extractor and burning ~700rds to break it all the way in, other than that love mine just overpaid is all

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    With 10mm 1911s you dont want to necessarily go up in weight on the recoil spring, go up on the hammer spring. 20 or 21 pound recoil and 25 point hammer/main spring is what joe chambers recommends. The heavy recoil springs will give you muzzle dip and dont really moron the slide at that point in the operation. Did it to mine and its noticeably less brutal

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So usp45s dont need a different spring for supers? Have an expert

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you are going to be shooting .45 super alot I would plus up the outer/larger recoil spring, the USP's have a fantastic recoil setup though and it's not as imperative as say a G20 shooting hot 10mm

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    don't use 10mm in a 1911. it will fit in the chamber, but the gun won't function

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You have to be at least 12 to post here.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Glock 20 is best 10mm

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fricked with the new overpriced FN striker fired FNP 10mm and boi I wanted to like it but that trigger sucks and I don't trust their metal mags.
      I'm thinking of just turning my Gen 3 G20SF into a carbine and buying a Gen 5 for the dual recoil spring and the MOS, you have a Gen 5?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >
          Stealth Arms said they would do the Platypus in 10mm and .45 (G20 and G21 mags), how long you want to wait for that is up to you but they can't make their 9mm 2011's fast enough as is - their price point is fantastic for american made and the 9mm 1911 crowd gets to ditch metal mags

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Man a platypus in 10mm would frick so hard

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP is moronic, let's discuss good defensive 10mm, I've been going through tons of gel tests, seems most is actually pretty bad.
    So far it seems HST is the most consistent winner, sure the box velocity is a little low for "muh true 10mm powah" but the gel shows it expand and drive deep.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well boys, thanks for the inputs. I think I'm going to pursue a Dan Wesson Bruin.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was in your exact scenario two years ago.
      I also got the Bruin.

      Buying holsters for it sucked, so let me save you the bullshit of having to search for weeks:

      >Leather
      Southern Trapper. The belt clips suck, but the leather quality is second to none. They do custom work if you want to really tailor your holster to your specific need, but The Professional™ is perfect if you just want a leather IWB

      Galco shoulder rig would be perfect IF they did custom orders on the thing. It's the best shoulder rig I've ever worn for my wheel guns, but they outright just refused my request for a 6" 1911.

      I'm currently waiting on a shoulder rig from Black Hills Leather. BH4D Vertical Double Shoulder Rig. Hopefully it'll be worth the wait.

      >Kydex
      Garret Holsters Silent Thunder Slim for appendix or G02 IWB for all other IWB positions. Get the standard sweat guard. It's what I use 99% of the time.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I own a Dan Wesson Razorback. Originally wanted a Delta Elite but things like the nylon MSH and the unsupported barrel put me off. Got ~1200 rounds through it so far and no malfunctions.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    6” long slide

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Which 10mm 1911 is the best 10mm 1911?
    That's like asking which Yugoslavian automobile is the best. They're all shit.
    The 1911 platform wasn't built for full power 10mm, and unless you shoot limp-dicked Short&Weak loads they'll all beat themselves to death after a few thousand rounds.
    If you want a 10mm pistol, buy one that was built specifically for high power cartridges.
    pic unrelated.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As long as you dont overload 10mm beyond what is considered +P in factory loads (which is the "normal" load 10mm was supposed to run), your gun will be fine, except you'll need to replace internal parts more often. Training with factory ammo and using standard loads for defense is the go-to.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's pretty well known that 1911s beat themselves to shit long term. If you don't care, fine. But when 45ACP is cracking frames at high round counts I can't imagine ones chambered for 45 Super and 10mm are going to last.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Back when I was interested in a 10mm 1911 and was settled on the Colt Delta Elite this is exactly what stopped me from pulling the trigger. Dudes on various forums basically just told me to expect it to beat itself to death unless babied and even then it's not an heirloom gun if you shoot it worth a damn. It's the best off the shelf 10mm 1911 (or at least was at the time) yet all of that is still a concern. The concept still gets my peepee hard but I can't justify it against something like an overbuilt Redhawk that would allow me to blast full house .357s for a theoretical eternity.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Redhawk
        Now you're speaking my language. I have a glock 20 as my woods carry, but it has not satiated my lust for a 4.2in Redhawk in 45 Colt for those monstrous handloads.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The guy who owns Buffalo bore had a SRH 454 cylinder swapped into and tuned on a 6 inch (I think) redhawk…. Man I’d love one of those. Not a fan of the long barreled SRH look.. on that subject.. why the frick can I get a super redhawk in 10mm…. And the gp/sp’s in 40, but I can’t get a standard redhawk in 10mm?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Actually, he just had the 45 Colt Redhawk cylinder reamed out to accept 454 Casull.
            This was a common and popular practice back in the 80's too. The only reason Ruger used 465 Carpenter for their 454 cylinder was because the original 410r series stainless had exceeded its 0.2% yield when proofing at 93,000psi.
            In other words problems only arose when proofing at insane pressures and it only resulted in plastic deformation and not tensile failure. So if you do just ream it out, remember the margin of safety isn't 100%, more like 40%.
            The regular Redhawk is a stupid strong gun and I do some handloads in their 44 mag guns that touch mid-454 ballistics.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Good to know. Wish we could convince Ruger to make a longer cylinder suitable for 500 mag and 460…

              The super redhawk is like a girlfriend from high school. Dependable and doesn't mind you being rough with her, but heavy and not exactly a looker. I read somewhere that the SRH trigger is a good bit easier to tune than the standard redhawk, but I just can't get past the frame jutting out like it does. Oh well.
              >No 10mm redhawk
              Never noticed, maybe they don't think there's enough demand. That said, they seem to have a good idea of what fudd-minded dorks like me want in a firearm.
              >Want that 338 Hawkeye African BAD

              Yeah the SRH barrel is like an afterthought.. I got the Alaskan version and like it, the tokelat (however it’s spelled) is tolerable in the looks department in my opinion.

              Mainly I’d like one in 10mm because it would be fun bored out to 10mm magnum…. But I feel like a redhawk would be a nicer platform than a gp100… and as mentioned before the SRH with a barrel isn’t my cup of tea..

              Right now though I’m waiting on my BFR to come back from TII…. Going from 500 magnum to 500 bushwacker.. got the ammo in today.. 30-06 round for scale.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice! Never looked at the toklat, it's still not for me but I'll agree it's far more tolerable. How's that BFR shoot? Boy do they look like fun.

                I don't get it if 1911s can't shoot 10mm without self destructing how do people manage to get them to shoot 460 rowland?

                You're misunderstanding the points that have been made here. No one has said they self-destruct.
                Here's the gist:

                You can buy a 1911 in 10mm/460 Rowland

                It will likely last thousands of rounds, just take care of it and replace parts when you're supposed to.

                If you shoot it with high power loads often, do not expect it to outlive you. The frame and slide WILL wear more quickly than many other offerings.

                Even if you baby it, it simply will not survive the round counts that can be achieved by a G20, or USP/G21 tricked out for 460.

                I'm not trying to be a douche, 1911s are cool as shit. The triggers tend to be great and they have an iconic look. The weight helps with recoil vs a polymer frame. The market continues to offer more and more options. They just aren't as tough as people like to assume they are. If you care that much I hear frames can be welded and you'll likely never put enough rounds through it to reach that point. Or buy two.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what about grizzlies? they're in big ass calibers too but they're also scaled up from a normal 1911.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/eK2q4Wh.png

                Because they are babbling morons who underestimate modern metallurgy, all it takes is one post about someone claiming that their 1911 blew up and they will take it at face value

                So what IS the modern metallurgy composition of a typical frame made up of these days? What's the toughest material that can be used? Would a titanium frame work?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think it would be very expensive and then have longevity issues, titanium firing pins for example do not last as long as steel firing pin, the tip will peen and become malformed.

                Modern forged frames are much stronger than the old frames that cracked + you could use a relief cut where it would crack to lengthen the life span of the frame. The issue is that the 1911 design beats up the frame, it's an inevitability especially with higher power ammunition. Competition shooters burn through guns within 100k rounds, they don't last forever.

                You're putting several times the gun's worth in ammo through it. If you can afford to shoot that much you can just buy another gun.

                https://i.imgur.com/VhxKi6v.jpeg

                >want an 1911 but I don't care for .4
                We're living in the golden age of 9mm 1911s, anon...

                I'm sorry anon, I love WC sentinels and it irks me to no end how janky your gun looks.

                >Fullsize EPS instead of the EPS carry with no over hang
                >no back up irons
                >fullsize mag without an overtravel stop

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't know that about the firing pins. At the rate I shoot mine I may never have to worry haha. It's just my bear gun, not a competition or CCW.

                If I stick with 10mm I might try a Glock 20 next.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The BFR is a blast, but they aren’t kidding about the big part. With some standard 500 the weight keeps the kick down. Theirs worst combinations of 44 mag and light gun for felt recoil. With hotter stuff it’s gonna rise, but it’s not the shape shock you get with 454. I had some 600 grain +p ammo that would recoil the barrel up to full vertical but was probably less felt shock on my wrists with it. It’s going to be fun when it comes back seeing how it feels with the 3 inch rifle break they put on it.. the TII guys mention that they think the BFR is probably the worst for recoil compared to an xframe in similar barrel lengths. The unmilled cylinder feels like a pop can…

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The super redhawk is like a girlfriend from high school. Dependable and doesn't mind you being rough with her, but heavy and not exactly a looker. I read somewhere that the SRH trigger is a good bit easier to tune than the standard redhawk, but I just can't get past the frame jutting out like it does. Oh well.
            >No 10mm redhawk
            Never noticed, maybe they don't think there's enough demand. That said, they seem to have a good idea of what fudd-minded dorks like me want in a firearm.
            >Want that 338 Hawkeye African BAD

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              A lot of the cool cartridges get chambered in the Super Redhawk because they are straight up cheaper to produce than regular Redhawks.
              Many Super RH parts are shared with the GP guns and some even with the SP. The Redhawk is kind of a legacy gun from the first gen Ruger DA's, the Six series.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're right that 1911s do beat themselves apart. That's why they introduced a stress relieving cut in later models. Helps extend the life of the frame significantly. Definitely wouldn't go with a 1911 for hot rod ammo even knowing that.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Oh LOOK! Another 10meme thread

    Give it up already

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    here you go OP

    the best 10mm 1911 money can buy

    https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/handguns/hi-point-jxp10-10mm-auto-52in-black-pistol-101-rounds/p/1800161

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do I find one in 357 Sig that doesn't cost an arm and leg?

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get it if 1911s can't shoot 10mm without self destructing how do people manage to get them to shoot 460 rowland?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Springs and compensators. Also not all 1911’s are created equal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >don't get it if 1911s can't shoot 10mm without self destructing
      I think the problem with 10mm 1911s is you need a fully supported chamber with a barrel ramp which budget 1911s will not have.
      Its fully capable of shooting 10m you just need a lot of features that were not in the original spec primarily a fully supported chamber and feed ramp

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The amount of lore that people will tell you about the 1911 is inconceivable

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they are babbling morons who underestimate modern metallurgy, all it takes is one post about someone claiming that their 1911 blew up and they will take it at face value

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I carry that RIA 10mm in a chest holster for innawoods hiking and camping. 200gr Underwood hardcast bullets for blackbears. It's held up very well, but to be fair I'm not dumping thousands of training rounds through it like I would a CCW carry gun. I have some basic OEM replacement parts set aside if eventually there are internals issues so I'm not worried. For me it's a niche pistol.

        I'd be interested if someone put 10k+ rounds through one and then reported back on what issues they've encountered.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also swapped out the magazine for WC 9 rounders so I have 10 rds on tap. RIA guns are fun but the magazines often suck.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably a Les Baer Kenai Special

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a Nighthawk in gods caliber 45acp

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you moronic ?
    .45 ACP is God's pistol caliber and has a bigger bullet than 10mm

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    16round double stacked ria 10mm 1911s always caught my eye. Shame no reviewer with money has put a decent round count through one

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