Usually it's bought from the corrupted Indonesian polices and army officers, captured from the dead soldiers and deserters, or bought from abroad like PNG.
By improving the living conditions and building infrastructure of course, compared to the rebellion in Aceh they're not that good.
Usually it's bought from the corrupted Indonesian polices and army officers, captured from the dead soldiers and deserters, or bought from abroad like PNG.
By improving the living conditions and building infrastructure of course, compared to the rebellion in Aceh they're not that good.
>people so committed to their cause they are willing to use muskets and bows?
Papuans don't need some romantic grandiose """cause""" to be using either.
Fuck sake. I presume hes ok. I wonder if the indonesians would allow someone else to come in and get him. Or with the right people and some deniability, if they would ever even know someone did.
Wonder what they hoped to achieve taking a western man hostage. To escalate things and get other countries to poke their noses in? My experience with paupans is more "can I buy your sister" and smoking tobacco rolled up in newspaper but maybe one of these fullas has a plan.
>Wonder what they hoped to achieve taking a western man hostage.
They're demanding Papuan independence
Obviously one random bloke isn't going to achieve that
So inevitably the Indonesians will make a counter offer, or the Papuans will suggest it as an alternative, of releasing some people from prison or paying a ransom and that is what they will accept
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nduga_hostage_crisis >On 26 April, Mehrtens' captors released a video statement by Mehrtens stating he was alive and well. Mehrtens also called upon the Indonesian Army to stop bombing the area to avoid endangering him. He claimed that he was being well-treated by his captors. Mehrtens also appeared to be wearing restraints around his neck and wrist
>The Indonesians evacuated thousands of people from around Paro airport, Ndago Regency, Lanny Jaya Regency, and Puncak in an effort to deny Kogoya's group community assistance.
yikes
they dont want to overthrow anything they just want them out of their land
curious that people who go on about garden gnomes, globalists, elites, satanic cabals, etc cant identify with this
there was an IRA member who helped them refurbish WW2 weaponry. The rest are probably obtained from dead indonesians which is why you see them use M3's and XM8's side by side
Papua seems interesting. Like only the Congo is as dangerous but their only port city is more dangerous than the jungles themselves
but I've only seen one or two WWII firearms in all the pictures of them
>former colony >minimi in pic >dude literally wearing union jack on head >dpm on his ass >others wearing brushstroke, all variants based on a french original camo
..."where" he asks? i bet that dog isn't even native
West Papua is a province of Indonesia in the Southeast Asia archipelago
North of Australia, south of the Philippines
fun fact. My middle school principal's dad was speared to death by native Papuans on a missionary expedition thinly veiled as a linguistics study. His grandson (my classmate) went on to essentially murder 4 of his relatives and give the rest lung AIDS by hosting an antimask wedding in the midst of the first covid wave
Maxwell, forget his first name. Conflict was abuse of the local workers in a mine by the government. Executive Outcomes was hired to combat the insurgency.
Maxwell kept his backround ambiguous, gave an interview said he was fighting against the government maltreatment of the locals.
There was a thread, which I can't seem to find, on the whole conflict. It had a link to some of Maxwell' recent writing on the conflict. I think he might still be alive.
Pic semi related. PrepHole's reverence of "One man against the odds"
>former colony >minimi in pic >dude literally wearing union jack on head >dpm on his ass >others wearing brushstroke, all variants based on a french original camo
..."where" he asks? i bet that dog isn't even native
Maybe he wandered over the border? Still native as fuck. Does PNG support these guys at all? Maybe just went over on his own buzz even deserted the army and took the gun with him. But I'm sure theres more than a few minimis floating around that made their way out of army stores. It's a big ass jungle on the border that militias could wander though both ways even though the armies are out there, plus im sure weapons lost to corruption and to the occasional contact. I'd say if indo militias came the other way into png aussie and kiwi troops would end up there..
>Does PNG support these guys at all?
I would doubt it, they would not want to have friction and hostilities with their giant neighbor plus they have enough problems of their own with the Bougainville Independence Movement and tribal conflicts
Individuals in PNG probably sympathize and provide whatever help they can afford
>The two officers from Maluku province were arrested on Feb. 20 after being accused of selling weapons and ammunition to the West Papua National Liberation Army, an armed group responsible for numerous attacks against the Indonesian police and military.
Indonesian Police have been caught selling the guns which isnt suprsing, however the Indogs would rather seethe at Vanuatu for calling them neo-colonists or Australia for doing nothing then look at their own traitors
Indonesia has closed the province off to foreign media
Australians have snuck in via PNG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMeYD-wFC1o
What goes on is the Grasberg/Freeport mine which has billions of dollars worth of gold, silver, and copper
The profit all flows out of the country to western shareholders and the toxic heavy metal tailings are dumped into the Papuan rivers
Those road workers filmed them holding a Morning Star flag raising ceremony and singing independence songs.
Both of which are illegal under Indonesian law.
Ask yourself what sort of government bans a flag and songs?
The Papuans were concerned the footage would be turned over to Indonesian authorities.
Furthermore, the Indonesian military has a nasty habit of conducting operations out of uniform + a lot of those "pro-Jakarta nationalist militias" in East Timor were in fact soldiers and police out of uniform. The Papuans had reason to be concerned about just who those road builders might have really been. This is a very practical reason why you should not do these things because you risk putting your civilians under suHispanicion.
And third, what are those roads in service of? Mining and clear cutting the forest, not to mention allowing the military greater access.
I'm not trying to defend or mitigate this criminal act but it is needs to be considered in its proper context of an oppressive occupation that creates this situations.
there's a bit of a problem there
the Indonesian government has encouraged Javanese to migrate to West Papua + the Papuans have high infant mortality and low life expectancy
So they are now a minority in their own land, they may be only 47% of the population of West Papua
Pic three that apply. >old Jap/Dutch left behind WW2 shit that they somehow managed to fix. >Capture Indonesian weapons they took from dead cops (mostly & soldiers). >Filipino pirates & smugglers from the Philippines troubled South. They mainly pass through the Celebes/Sulawesi see which is close to West Papua.
Mining has been a big issue in West Papua for a long time but now also the 'carbon trade' is leading to large swathes of the mountain highlands being clear cut for palm oil plantations
>Jackal: It's a romantic notion that they all came out of the Soviet Union after the collapse; that was a windfall back in '89, maybe through '91... but that's all over. I move weapons, I profit from circulation; you get a ceasefire in Liberia, both sides disarm, you think they slag two thousand tons of guns? No. They sell them to me. I resell them wherever the next war is starting. >Oluwagembi: Those are Soviet guns from 1989? >Jackal: Hm... That's about half. The rest mostly come from old European armies after they abandoned their colonies in the '60s and '70s, you know, French guns, Dutch, Belgian...
pic unrelated
Guns are easy to buy outside the US and any country with a functioning bureaucracy. A flip or Indonesian arms dealer is willing to trade some cheap rifles for a fuck load of palm oils or whatever hey make in return. Hell there's even a jap director that was a PrepHoleoomer at heart and set up a summer home in the Philippines and bought dozens of machine guns to play with in his personal range.
These photos facinate me. Dudes have a grease gun, a M249, various AR and similar rifles, a 203 grenade launcher, in the hands of trials who hunt bushmeat with sticks for a living and who's technology never advanced beyond the grass hut. I wonder what grasp of completely they have of these weapons? I'd love to be in spectator mode and see what their understanding of disassembly and weapons servicing they have, as well as application. Is it just a magic boom stick to them? Or do they grasp the internet functionality
If as the other anon said they ambush the indonesian army I'd say they have a pretty good understanding of how to keep their weapons going as well as small unit tactics. Don't go thinking they are retarded just because they are a tribal place. In fact being tribal and hunting bush meat means they can go live in the jungle without support, or with support and intel from tribes they are friendly with, and probably as a movement aren't going anywhere anytime soon. They might come from a lot of different places and cultures but a lot can also speak pidgin english with each other and a few probably have military training.
>hunt bushmeat
Monkey and Ape meat is in Africa
Orangutans are on the islands of Borneo and Sumatra, not Papua
Papuans are farmers, they grow Taro and Sweet Potato and raise pigs and supplement this with fishing and gathering wild plants - which is why the Grasberg mine polluting the rivers and clear cutting the forests is a bit of a problem for them >and who's technology never advanced beyond the grass hut.
Papua is where the Taro vegetable was cultivated and domesticated
They're isolated but they're not stupid, they would be more akin to people in the Appalachias than cavemen
Those on the coast have a lot more contact with the outside including internet access
A lot of the members of the Independence movement have been to university in Jakarta
That is how they know how badly they're being screwed, and the racism they experience there fuels their resolve
Hillbillies aren't particularly known for cannibalism
may as well be props with that handling
Probably got little range time. I've seen dudes from armies similar to PNG unzero their rifles on purpose when training to be given more rounds to shoot. But I bet they have been in a few contacts as well
Where I live I can already see my fair share of recently cannibals and hillbillies alike. Sometimes they even work quite well together.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nduga_hostage_crisis >On 26 April, Mehrtens' captors released a video statement by Mehrtens stating he was alive and well. Mehrtens also called upon the Indonesian Army to stop bombing the area to avoid endangering him. He claimed that he was being well-treated by his captors. Mehrtens also appeared to be wearing restraints around his neck and wrist
If hes honest that they are treating him well, he will be doing ok.
Bushmeat is a general term for various wild game including deer and pig, which they hunt in New guinea. Semi domesticating a wild root doesn't really change my point. These people are still notorious for murdering people for being witches, and to pretend that the majority of these tribal people's are university graduates with IPhones is silly. The vast majority are quite primitive, and I'm sure grenade launchers aren't something they studied in a classroom environment. You have done little to answer my initial questions.
Be better if he just stiffen up and point at them or something like that. Low growl maybe. I've always thought a dog would go good in the jungle. Train it like you would for indicating deer
Shits a long story.
The more pertinent question is how a monkey who lives in a hut can afford a $40k gun, and why such a monkey wouldn't just sell the gun and leave the shithole region. That's where your answer really lies
>and why such a monkey wouldn't just sell the gun and leave the shithole region.
you'd leave your homeland if you had the chance and they fight for their homeland
who has the resolve to win
Every village is on its own side, even within a village families are constantly feuding. There was never a United West Papua and those clsiming to fight for one are just the proxy forces paid by a foreign group and run through a local warlord
>paid by a foreign group
oh look its an Indonesian
you can always tell an Indonesian because this is their excuse for everything
every problem is denied and instead it is all because malcontents are funded by outside forces
and if it wasn't for this foreign subversion everyone would be happy to have their rivers poisoned and forests clearcut and Chinese neighborhoods rioted in
amazon
Me. I give them to them.
how to and where to cop this drip?
how do you fight people so committed to their cause they are willing to use muskets and bows?
Usually it's bought from the corrupted Indonesian polices and army officers, captured from the dead soldiers and deserters, or bought from abroad like PNG.
By improving the living conditions and building infrastructure of course, compared to the rebellion in Aceh they're not that good.
Napalm the entire island
>people so committed to their cause they are willing to use muskets and bows?
Papuans don't need some romantic grandiose """cause""" to be using either.
Build more McDonald's and dub Dancing WithThe Stars into gibberish..
Broke: camo t shirt, basketball shorts, rubber boots
Woke: make you own thong with dried grass and feathers
guess i am just racist, but an abo resistance army woulde be kinda kino
Have they still got that guy? Kiwi bush pilot
Yes
Indonesian SF tried to rescue him
Got ambushed
One guy fell down a ravine, Papuans killed NINE others, the rest then fled into the jungle
Fuck sake. I presume hes ok. I wonder if the indonesians would allow someone else to come in and get him. Or with the right people and some deniability, if they would ever even know someone did.
Wonder what they hoped to achieve taking a western man hostage. To escalate things and get other countries to poke their noses in? My experience with paupans is more "can I buy your sister" and smoking tobacco rolled up in newspaper but maybe one of these fullas has a plan.
>Wonder what they hoped to achieve taking a western man hostage.
They're demanding Papuan independence
Obviously one random bloke isn't going to achieve that
So inevitably the Indonesians will make a counter offer, or the Papuans will suggest it as an alternative, of releasing some people from prison or paying a ransom and that is what they will accept
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nduga_hostage_crisis
>On 26 April, Mehrtens' captors released a video statement by Mehrtens stating he was alive and well. Mehrtens also called upon the Indonesian Army to stop bombing the area to avoid endangering him. He claimed that he was being well-treated by his captors. Mehrtens also appeared to be wearing restraints around his neck and wrist
>The Indonesians evacuated thousands of people from around Paro airport, Ndago Regency, Lanny Jaya Regency, and Puncak in an effort to deny Kogoya's group community assistance.
yikes
may as well be props with that handling
why do their face all look same
Lots of inbreeding within the small tribe
>First cousins Tsar Nicholas II (left) and King George V (right)
It's called lack of genetic diversity. Or Fuck your sister.
>yo its ur boi KSI and today we will be overtrowing the government of indonesia!
they dont want to overthrow anything they just want them out of their land
curious that people who go on about garden gnomes, globalists, elites, satanic cabals, etc cant identify with this
ksi prolly doesnt know that tho
Bro no one is talking about religion or political elites here, you are arguing with people in your head lmao.
there was an IRA member who helped them refurbish WW2 weaponry. The rest are probably obtained from dead indonesians which is why you see them use M3's and XM8's side by side
Papua seems interesting. Like only the Congo is as dangerous but their only port city is more dangerous than the jungles themselves
but I've only seen one or two WWII firearms in all the pictures of them
West Papua is a province of Indonesia in the Southeast Asia archipelago
North of Australia, south of the Philippines
fun fact. My middle school principal's dad was speared to death by native Papuans on a missionary expedition thinly veiled as a linguistics study. His grandson (my classmate) went on to essentially murder 4 of his relatives and give the rest lung AIDS by hosting an antimask wedding in the midst of the first covid wave
Bot post
Or gay troll. I refuse to believe any man would willingly type that
Damn the Paupans know how to do colkateral damage
Maxwell, forget his first name. Conflict was abuse of the local workers in a mine by the government. Executive Outcomes was hired to combat the insurgency.
Maxwell kept his backround ambiguous, gave an interview said he was fighting against the government maltreatment of the locals.
There was a thread, which I can't seem to find, on the whole conflict. It had a link to some of Maxwell' recent writing on the conflict. I think he might still be alive.
Pic semi related. PrepHole's reverence of "One man against the odds"
Executive Outcomes was in PNG in the 1990s for the Port Morseby conflict
>former colony
>minimi in pic
>dude literally wearing union jack on head
>dpm on his ass
>others wearing brushstroke, all variants based on a french original camo
..."where" he asks? i bet that dog isn't even native
Maybe he wandered over the border? Still native as fuck. Does PNG support these guys at all? Maybe just went over on his own buzz even deserted the army and took the gun with him. But I'm sure theres more than a few minimis floating around that made their way out of army stores. It's a big ass jungle on the border that militias could wander though both ways even though the armies are out there, plus im sure weapons lost to corruption and to the occasional contact. I'd say if indo militias came the other way into png aussie and kiwi troops would end up there..
>Does PNG support these guys at all?
I would doubt it, they would not want to have friction and hostilities with their giant neighbor plus they have enough problems of their own with the Bougainville Independence Movement and tribal conflicts
Individuals in PNG probably sympathize and provide whatever help they can afford
Indonesians use minimi as well. They build them under license there. Pindad SM-3. So the gun could come from either side of the border.
And if the guy is from PNG or wants to be part of it. You should know that the head of state there in their country, is Charles III
Yppo
what is Yppo?
White people
I thought Aussies were helping clear them for mining
philippines
its literally the only legal gun market in whole asia
could you elaborate?
is that a minimi on the right? fuck i didn't know they could use magazines
yes, its a thing
>The two officers from Maluku province were arrested on Feb. 20 after being accused of selling weapons and ammunition to the West Papua National Liberation Army, an armed group responsible for numerous attacks against the Indonesian police and military.
Indonesian Police have been caught selling the guns which isnt suprsing, however the Indogs would rather seethe at Vanuatu for calling them neo-colonists or Australia for doing nothing then look at their own traitors
thats strange usually they give them to the "nationalist militias" which they are members of
Indo and PNG cops are ridiculously corrupt which is why most of their gear is older Indo and Aus stuff.
what the fuck even goes on here? The place names don't even have pictures or even just pages about them online
Indonesia has closed the province off to foreign media
Australians have snuck in via PNG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMeYD-wFC1o
What goes on is the Grasberg/Freeport mine which has billions of dollars worth of gold, silver, and copper
The profit all flows out of the country to western shareholders and the toxic heavy metal tailings are dumped into the Papuan rivers
They're also now clear cutting the highland forests to build palm oil plantations
classic, humanity will not stop until every tree is cut, every fish eaten, every stream poisoned.
They seem worse than morons.
>kill 16 road workers
>cry when the government retaliates
Those road workers filmed them holding a Morning Star flag raising ceremony and singing independence songs.
Both of which are illegal under Indonesian law.
Ask yourself what sort of government bans a flag and songs?
The Papuans were concerned the footage would be turned over to Indonesian authorities.
Furthermore, the Indonesian military has a nasty habit of conducting operations out of uniform + a lot of those "pro-Jakarta nationalist militias" in East Timor were in fact soldiers and police out of uniform. The Papuans had reason to be concerned about just who those road builders might have really been. This is a very practical reason why you should not do these things because you risk putting your civilians under suHispanicion.
And third, what are those roads in service of? Mining and clear cutting the forest, not to mention allowing the military greater access.
I'm not trying to defend or mitigate this criminal act but it is needs to be considered in its proper context of an oppressive occupation that creates this situations.
>the map is largely blank
>the few place names have no available information
>Random rebel from one of the poorest shitholes on the planet can get a MP7 but I can't
This is bullshit
they fight for freedom, yet are more free than all of us
i assume at least one person in this image has a soint point in their lives consumed marihuana or at least knows somebody who does
Indog SF got some drip ngl.
they got the Blue Steel look
no not really
Dead Indonesian soldiers, specifically the SOF variety.
You can see that most of those are captured from the Indonesian Army
The CIA like everyone else
the CIA would be supporting the Indonesian government
should send them more guns
they deserve a fair shot at kicking the Javans out
there's a bit of a problem there
the Indonesian government has encouraged Javanese to migrate to West Papua + the Papuans have high infant mortality and low life expectancy
So they are now a minority in their own land, they may be only 47% of the population of West Papua
colonialism: it just works
still on the side of the Papuans in this though, nothing quite like a motivated rebel militia fighting in their logistical nightmare of a homeland
Pic three that apply.
>old Jap/Dutch left behind WW2 shit that they somehow managed to fix.
>Capture Indonesian weapons they took from dead cops (mostly & soldiers).
>Filipino pirates & smugglers from the Philippines troubled South. They mainly pass through the Celebes/Sulawesi see which is close to West Papua.
Indonesia is extremely corrupt. A not insignificant number of weapons are supplied to resistance fighters directly by government authorities.
For me its this dude
>trying real hard to hang with the big dawgs
for me its the naked man with just a spear
this is a man without fear
He's the only fucker with a watch, shit was probably real expensive and so all he could afford was a pistol.
For me it's this guy
>I am in charge, I will get the big gun
If you squint that OP pic looks like a working rifle section
Reminds me of the Arabs with the fucking RPG at point blank range. Retarded thirdies making dumb images.
Mining has been a big issue in West Papua for a long time but now also the 'carbon trade' is leading to large swathes of the mountain highlands being clear cut for palm oil plantations
>They actually killed a mf with a spear
Dam, don’t go fucking around with them mountain bros
Because he is based
Most of them are from the Indonesians.
>Jackal: It's a romantic notion that they all came out of the Soviet Union after the collapse; that was a windfall back in '89, maybe through '91... but that's all over. I move weapons, I profit from circulation; you get a ceasefire in Liberia, both sides disarm, you think they slag two thousand tons of guns? No. They sell them to me. I resell them wherever the next war is starting.
>Oluwagembi: Those are Soviet guns from 1989?
>Jackal: Hm... That's about half. The rest mostly come from old European armies after they abandoned their colonies in the '60s and '70s, you know, French guns, Dutch, Belgian...
pic unrelated
Guns are easy to buy outside the US and any country with a functioning bureaucracy. A flip or Indonesian arms dealer is willing to trade some cheap rifles for a fuck load of palm oils or whatever hey make in return. Hell there's even a jap director that was a PrepHoleoomer at heart and set up a summer home in the Philippines and bought dozens of machine guns to play with in his personal range.
>pic related
hes a free man now so most likely yes
These photos facinate me. Dudes have a grease gun, a M249, various AR and similar rifles, a 203 grenade launcher, in the hands of trials who hunt bushmeat with sticks for a living and who's technology never advanced beyond the grass hut. I wonder what grasp of completely they have of these weapons? I'd love to be in spectator mode and see what their understanding of disassembly and weapons servicing they have, as well as application. Is it just a magic boom stick to them? Or do they grasp the internet functionality
If as the other anon said they ambush the indonesian army I'd say they have a pretty good understanding of how to keep their weapons going as well as small unit tactics. Don't go thinking they are retarded just because they are a tribal place. In fact being tribal and hunting bush meat means they can go live in the jungle without support, or with support and intel from tribes they are friendly with, and probably as a movement aren't going anywhere anytime soon. They might come from a lot of different places and cultures but a lot can also speak pidgin english with each other and a few probably have military training.
I'm not doubting their intelligence, just wondering what level of "civilizations collide" a bunch of bushmen getting a belt fed weapon ends up being
>hunt bushmeat
Monkey and Ape meat is in Africa
Orangutans are on the islands of Borneo and Sumatra, not Papua
Papuans are farmers, they grow Taro and Sweet Potato and raise pigs and supplement this with fishing and gathering wild plants - which is why the Grasberg mine polluting the rivers and clear cutting the forests is a bit of a problem for them
>and who's technology never advanced beyond the grass hut.
Papua is where the Taro vegetable was cultivated and domesticated
They're isolated but they're not stupid, they would be more akin to people in the Appalachias than cavemen
Those on the coast have a lot more contact with the outside including internet access
A lot of the members of the Independence movement have been to university in Jakarta
That is how they know how badly they're being screwed, and the racism they experience there fuels their resolve
>Appalachias
Hillbillies aren't particularly known for cannibalism
Probably got little range time. I've seen dudes from armies similar to PNG unzero their rifles on purpose when training to be given more rounds to shoot. But I bet they have been in a few contacts as well
Appalachia is full of cannibal hillbillies
Don't move here.
Where I live I can already see my fair share of recently cannibals and hillbillies alike. Sometimes they even work quite well together.
If hes honest that they are treating him well, he will be doing ok.
Bushmeat is a general term for various wild game including deer and pig, which they hunt in New guinea. Semi domesticating a wild root doesn't really change my point. These people are still notorious for murdering people for being witches, and to pretend that the majority of these tribal people's are university graduates with IPhones is silly. The vast majority are quite primitive, and I'm sure grenade launchers aren't something they studied in a classroom environment. You have done little to answer my initial questions.
nicolas cage sells guns to them
Im sure this guy earns his keep too
absolutely, barks when Indos approach camp at night
Be better if he just stiffen up and point at them or something like that. Low growl maybe. I've always thought a dog would go good in the jungle. Train it like you would for indicating deer
Use old guns abandoned in ww2
Kill troops with new guns
frum dem guvment
It not government who does the job
me
why would you do that?
Dunno probably at soup
Looks like from the shit store.
Shits a long story.
The more pertinent question is how a monkey who lives in a hut can afford a $40k gun, and why such a monkey wouldn't just sell the gun and leave the shithole region. That's where your answer really lies
>and why such a monkey wouldn't just sell the gun and leave the shithole region.
you'd leave your homeland if you had the chance and they fight for their homeland
who has the resolve to win
Every village is on its own side, even within a village families are constantly feuding. There was never a United West Papua and those clsiming to fight for one are just the proxy forces paid by a foreign group and run through a local warlord
>paid by a foreign group
oh look its an Indonesian
you can always tell an Indonesian because this is their excuse for everything
every problem is denied and instead it is all because malcontents are funded by outside forces
and if it wasn't for this foreign subversion everyone would be happy to have their rivers poisoned and forests clearcut and Chinese neighborhoods rioted in
Lol, indog
Indonesians are real human beings
Indonesia is the non-zionist part of SEA as well
Probably because it is a Muslim nation
You get the guns for free when you win.
They killed enemy soldiers with fucking spears.
Well, now the enemy soldiers weapons are theirs.
This is guerilla warfare 101
I'm not speaking on the political nature of this struggle.
Just pointing out that weapons are free when the enemy is dead.
If you are in need of weapons that match the enemies capabilities.
It's not like he is taking his rifle and gear and ammo into the afterlife.
Ease off on the reddit spacing and people might care about your opinion.
Reminder that Americans through UN garden gnomery gave West Papua to Indonesia in the first place.