When this bridge gets destroyed completely, how long will Crimea last in Russian control?

When this bridge gets destroyed completely, how long will Crimea last in Russian control? Will Ukraine be able to siege them out?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP is close enough to puccia to use barges. It's gonna be a logistic clusterfrick and a HR hole in the ass but not a Battle of the Atlantic.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      how will be barges cope with the deadly sea-doos?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Naval battles in the azov sea, ziggers burning alive, ...
        >where are the dolphins?

        idk other than kino

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Tubular waves brah, check this out, I call it the bridge slam

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >deadly sea-doos?
        you had one job, anon

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        How dangerous is a two man jetski and a javelin?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      awwww yeah time to get some naval warfare back on the menu

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      good thing they sunk the ferrys they could have used instead of the bridge

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      But what about the civilians? How are they gonna supply them?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        NTA, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the Russian military has priority for virtually all the capacity of the (much quicker) Kerch rail cargo, and civilian resupply has already been relegated to cargo ships through ports on the water. The big question is what the capacity of those ports are, and what the turnaround is to load and unload supplies from Russia compared to sending rail cars.
        If cargo by water was that viable of an alternative, I think the RF would have tried to hold onto Kherson longer instead of organizing a retreat after the hit last year. Without rail they can try to make up the slack by other means, but it looks like the best they can do is to keep resupply trickling into fortified defensive positions; it just stops their offensive capacity cold.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Civilians?
        They were all volunteers in defense of the motherland and fought to the last man, woman and child to protect the land bridge to mainland Ukraine!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >barges
      >in waters covered by anti-ship missile batteries and swimming with USVs

      Excellent! Send the Tuvan degenerate my regards!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They sunk the barges to protect the bridge.

      It's weird how they haven't destroyed it by now. Surely there's no reason for them to wait all this time. Also isn't it supposed to be near useless by now? Every time an attack happens everyone says the bridge will take months to fix. With all these attacks surely it's been down the entire time.

      It's been closed pretty much every day now. I think they're running trains over it but road traffic is minimal now.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They didn't have a choice to sink the barges see

        ... Ukrainians are just mining it man.
        It's not that deep of water. Russians are already losing Crimea to insurgents. It's Slavic Fallujah. Every day a dozen or so Russian soldiers get murdered and every week a bombing blows up some police center.
        Anyways if the Ukrainians choose to blow it up, Russians can't use barges because Ukrainian will keep floating mines down River that plant. Losing robotnik meant Ukrainians cut off Crimea because nothing can go in or out with being blown up or running into a mine most of the time.

        Why do you think the Russians just decided to sink barges off the bridges? The barges were already ruined from mines. Russians couldn't even get them back to Russian safety

        Those barges were already sinking due to mines. Russians with their damage control is moronic. Why would Russians sink fricking barges? Did you guys actually think this through?
        Russians have lost Crimea until they take robotnik back

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      ... Ukrainians are just mining it man.
      It's not that deep of water. Russians are already losing Crimea to insurgents. It's Slavic Fallujah. Every day a dozen or so Russian soldiers get murdered and every week a bombing blows up some police center.
      Anyways if the Ukrainians choose to blow it up, Russians can't use barges because Ukrainian will keep floating mines down River that plant. Losing robotnik meant Ukrainians cut off Crimea because nothing can go in or out with being blown up or running into a mine most of the time.

      Why do you think the Russians just decided to sink barges off the bridges? The barges were already ruined from mines. Russians couldn't even get them back to Russian safety

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Couldn’t they make “drones” out of the still floating Soviet hulks and beach them onto Ukraine territory (do they still have beach territory I saw those videos of the wahman sunbathing during the war). They would be billions to clean them up after the war. 2 birds one stone get rid of the environmental issues of the old ships an block a port or mess up the beaches also. Or the can just sink a big line of them and put a road on top.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Too heavy.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would Ukraine want Crimea? It's full of Russians.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not for long it isn't.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can ethnically cleanse places if you're on the winning side
      See: Poland, Baltics, Czechs, Russia, France, China etc

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ethnically cleanse
        No, the word you're looking for is "deportation". Every Russian national in Crimea has illegally occupied the sovereign territory of another nation, and telling them to GTFO is upholding international law, not breaking it.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's not true. A lot of them are Crimean natives who speak Russian and have loyalty to Russia. People with dual citizenship might get deported after the war. The best option would be to scare them into fleeing to Russia on their own and then refusing to let them back in the country.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Crimean tatars were mistreated by russia you dumb sack of shit

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            They either accept ukrainian citizenship, or get deported as illegal immigrants.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ah, the good old Croatian option.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              i have an autistic prediction here, but since the UN has said they have zero proof of any genocide committed by Russia, the controversary when Ukraine takes Crimea will be accusations of pillaging and genocide (by ukrainians, that is). genocide for me, but not for thee

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who cares about the UN? Among the only countries which really matter, everyone is sick and tired of Russia's shit. Nobody will care about the poor Russian civilians, just like nobody cared about the plight of the Serbs. If Ukraine ever retakes Crimea of course, which is still one hell of a long shot IMO.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the UN has said they have zero proof of any genocide committed by Russia
                That isn't what they said you zigger shill

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why would Ukraine want Crimea? It's full of Russians.
      For now.
      I think half the shit they're pulling in Crimea is about making Russians want to leave.
      Afterwards, they'll just not recognise real estate contracts and titles under Russian administration and deport anyone with a Russian passport (who doesn't immediately identify as Ukrainian and say they were forced to get it, which might be legit).

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They will bring the Crimean Tatars back forst of all, russians can go to the fricking israeli autonomous oblast

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      One of the arguments against destroying the bridge, is that is Crimea is threatened enough, Russiofascists will use that bridge to frick off back to Russia. They will ethnically cleanse themselves, if you leave them a way out.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a frickload of Crimean Tatars that want their homes back after getting forced out in 2014

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like vicious torturing psychotic insurgent warfare is back on the menu boys!

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >vicious torturing psychotic insurgent warfare
          I think they're a different kind of muslim to the snackbars.
          Will be kino to see Tartar muslims vs Kadyrovite Chechens though.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sea border, there’s oil and gas offshore.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I, for one, cannot wait for the day.
    We all know it’s going to happen sooner or later. Whether it’s another truck bomb, a sea drone, or whatever else. Maybe by the end of the year, maybe next year, but it’s coming.
    And the autistic REEEing by pucciya will be legendary. A whole month of furious third worlders gnashing teeth and destroying keyboards, screaming about war crimes and perfidy. Can’t fricking wait.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's weird how they haven't destroyed it by now. Surely there's no reason for them to wait all this time. Also isn't it supposed to be near useless by now? Every time an attack happens everyone says the bridge will take months to fix. With all these attacks surely it's been down the entire time.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      My guess is that while the road spans are fricked, the adjacet rail bridge is still intact and operational, and thats the real prize.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The first bombing did leave the rail bridge fricked for several months.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Surely there's no reason for them to wait all this time.
      Apparently, there is?

      And, stop calling me Shirley.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's weird how they haven't destroyed it by now.
      It's hundreds of miles away limiting the weapons that can be used. Drone boats have to travel hundreds of miles around Crimea undetected and air drones have to fly over the front lines undetected to reach it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The road/train spans are a rather easy fix all things considered. What they actually need to destroy are the foundation piles underwater. Without them, preferably in multiple locations, the bridge is probably fricked.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        A ship rigged with 30 million tons of TNT?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          A blast a the magnitude of 2.9 kilotons was enough to obliterate most of Halifax along with killing 1.7k people in 1917, you could probably pop the bridge with a good bit less.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for the pic, Anon -- I've been wondering about the carrying capacity of that rail link for months and this is the first time I've seen any figures on how much it can transport. Check my math if you like:
        > 1 tonne = 1,000 kg
        > 12 million tonnes/ year & 94 trains per day = 350 tonnes of cargo per train, 32,900 tonnes a day

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/30/russia-military-logistics-supply-chain/
        "On average, each Russian soldier goes through about 440 pounds of supplies a day, including food, fuel, ammunition, medical support and more." = 200 kg/man/day, or 5 soldiers supplied per tonne.

        So my back of the envelope calculation is that at their theoretical max capacity (94 trains per day running 24/7, each train packed 100% full, Berlin-Airlift-mode well-oiled-machine logistics to maximize throughput with zero frickups or delays in unloading) the capacity is 164,500 soldiers supplied per day.
        Again, that's my most generous blue-sky assumption for the RF, and assuming that civilians are all evacuated or supplied by other vectors or something. If the the Kerch train goes down for ONE HOUR, that's four trains that don't deliver cargo and 7,000 guys who -- without fuel or arty shells -- are just mouths to feed without real combat potential. (Of course, that's hand-to-mouth and they have stockpiles built up, but still.) If the Russians lose Tokmak, they'll need to beef up motor transport along surface streets near the coastline just to keep hanging on.

        >When this bridge gets destroyed completely, how long will Crimea last in Russian control?
        My guess is that if they lose the rail link completely, they've got a few weeks of supplies warehoused during which they can either try to get Crimea resupplied by water or start evacuating Russian nationals at 38,352 passengers per day. Any anon got better data on this?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Absolutely based autistic and criminal nobody is replying

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >"On average, each Russian soldier goes through about 440 pounds of supplies a day, including food, fuel, ammunition, medical support and more." = 200 kg/man/day, or 5 soldiers supplied per tonne
          That had to be a gross over estimate.
          Maybe if you're including BMPs and artillery in that weight allowance then it averages out but there's no way a mobik in a trench gets 200kg of supplies per day.
          I'm not sure they get anything most days, they're complaining about having to buy their own food.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            That seems to be everything including fuel to get him his rotting MRE etc.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            That seems to be everything including fuel to get him his rotting MRE etc.

            The article seems to be giving an average for total expendables (fuel, ammo, food, water, etc.) over all troops, yeah. BMP and replacement tanks not included, and vehicle/munition resupply is its own hurdle.
            One BTG at full strength needs something like 3 food trucks and 5 water trucks to give 10 days of field operations, but if you look at army resupply as a whole the vast majority of the weight being transported is ammo, arty shells in particular. A single 152/155mm shell runs somewhere in the neighborhood of 100lbs/50kg, and this conflict has entered a very artillery-heavy phase. If the rail line at EITHER Kerch or Tokmak gets definitively cut for more than a few days, I don't believe there's going to be enough Scooby vans to pick up the slack for the RuAF.
            Losing both rail lines? Exponentially worse for their situation. They can hold out for a bit on stockpiles before they have to make some hard decisions.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        blowing up the foundations requires too many explosives.
        it's much easier to blow up the top of the arches.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Does Russia still allow fuel, LPG, fertilizer or large arsenal warships ships under there?
        Asking for a friend...

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nice try budanov

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Nice try
            It will be, when pic-rel goes full lock sideways and the arriving [redacted] make EverGiven look like minor parking lot scuff.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Russians on lookout for Uke warships or drones
              >totally unaware that SBU contracted three weeks ago with Evergreen

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Does Russia still allow fuel, LPG, fertilizer or large arsenal warships ships under there?
          It has a maximum clearance of 35m I think so big ships can't go through at all, that's kind of the point of it, to cut off Mariupol, Berdansk and Melitopol from the Black Sea.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/yzzXkXj.jpg

          The road/train spans are a rather easy fix all things considered. What they actually need to destroy are the foundation piles underwater. Without them, preferably in multiple locations, the bridge is probably fricked.

          Why can't Ukraine just send some underwater demolition team to blow up the pillars?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why can't Ukraine just send some underwater demolition team to blow up the pillars?
            Because it's a very long way from Ukraine, it would take them a week to get there, assuming they made it through Russian patrolled Crimean coastlines alive. And getting back would be just as hard making it nearly a suicide mission with little chance of success.

            Far easier to use drones and missiles.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Idea, commercial mini-sub running on electrical power with a 1-2 man crew.
              Equipment would be rock drills, TNT, and a few timed fuses with a remote trigger as a fallback.
              Pull up, surface, drill into the concrete in 4 spots along each pillar, slot the TNT in good and deep, set timers, then run.
              >why not just send a drone?
              Setting off the TNT within the pillar would create the same sort of pressure you see in commercial mining operations, causing the concrete to shatter.
              A drone wouldn't be able to achieve this.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Pull up, surface, drill into the concrete in 4 spots along each pillar
                There's heavy reinforcement in the centre of the piller, it's almost more rebar than concrete.

                If you get it underneath, the support pylons are much thinner but there's a lot more of them and you benefit from water incompressibility.
                Use something like a rock-climbing bolt-gun to attach charges to the pylons.

                You'll need a lot though.

                >A drone wouldn't be able to achieve this
                I think a drone could but it would probably need to be remote operated (cable to surface buoy antenna) but that would be jammable/detectable.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If you get it underneath, the support pylons are much thinner but there's a lot more of them and you benefit from water incompressibility.
                Use something like a rock-climbing bolt-gun to attach charges to the pylons.
                Now that I think about it, how thick ARE the underwater pillars?
                Perhaps a thermite charge per beam would be enough given it can combust under water.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Perhaps a thermite charge per beam would be enough given it can combust under water.
                Only if you could place it inside the pylon and if you can do that, you can just cut them.
                The problem is that the ocean is a perfect heat sink with limitless capacity, it would just suck all the heat right out of the thermite fire and the hot water would rise and be replaced with cold water that immediately continues the cycle.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              but isn't this the kind of mission SOF loves to do? hard, high risk of death, nearly suicidal, extreme reward and bragging rights that they took down the bridge and fricked crimea? cant we import some american ex-seals or something? either they pull it off or we get less morons

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >hard, high risk of death, nearly suicidal, extreme reward and bragging rights that they took down the bridge and fricked crimea?
                Frick no.
                SOF likes to strike unexpectedly, with little or no chance of resistance against an unprepared and unwitting enemy.
                They also like a fast in and out, not two weeks hazardous sea journey through enemy waters and the same back again except now they really know you're there.

                And only SEALs do it for the bragging rights.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                hold up are you saying videogames lied to me?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I would never say those words anon.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes
                Bideo vames will always lie to you

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is all about timing. Blowing it up now gives your enemy time to improvise instead of repairing it for minor damage. Blowing it up when you capture Tokmak will give your enemy a dilemma. It now have no way of supplying with rails. Do I fix the bridge or do I move it via sea/trucks? It would be a strategic double tap so to speak.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dumb take, blowing up the bridge would had been decisive years ago. You're stuck on current events, thinking it's the most important thing ever. But the earlier they blow the bridge the better Ukraine's position would had been. For example, if they blew it up last year Kherson wouldn't even be occupied.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >But the earlier they blow the bridge the better Ukraine's position would had been. For example, if they blew it up last year Kherson wouldn't even be occupied
          All true but the second best time to blow it up is now.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not an expert but I think bridges are extremely hard to destroy

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    6 months from when its fully down until the russians leave.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's more valuable to leave it intact but damaged.

    That way you can monitor what's coming into Crimea and take up huge amounts of air defence protecting it.

    A but of damage to restrict the volume of goods is fine.

    But eventually you want to leave the Russians (civilian and military) a route to escape that more favourable than standing their ground. .

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    short answer is yes

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Two weeks.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    time for giga pontoons

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You do realize Russia was in full control of Crimea for years before that bridge was even built? Rabotino on the other hand, Russia wouldn't last a fortnight without that colossal hyperfortress.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The difference is that Russia didn't need to support Crimea without a bridge during wartime

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >wasted an army corps worth men and material
    proof?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The secret technique of "making it the frick up."

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just frick you pajeets. Russians are cut off because of the mines. Putin is doing his crazy shit with grain trying to get them to back off because it's that bad. Do you pajeets need it all spoonfed to you. You get like Jesus could walk on water and Cnn would report an opinion piece Jesus can't swim and we all should be worried right? This war is all but over now. It's just the siege of saint Petersburg now as Russians die if shelling, disease and starvation trapped by their own defenses whule Russia is getting Sherman marched via airports and the sheridan burning down the shanadoah valley is being done with a Calvary of drones destroying everything.
    Just sit back and watch. It's going to be boring for everyone else and constant death and starvation for Russians then Indians and Chinese just like after the CSA fell all their backers relying on food and metals from the CSA had mass misery

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    And you may find yourself living in an old steel plant
    And you may find yourself fighting the entire second world
    And you may find yourself at the helm of a Panzerkampfwagen
    And you may find yourself in a beautiful field with a beautiful sky
    And you may ask yourself "Well, how did I get here?"

    Letting two weeks go by, water holding Moskva down
    Letting two weeks go by, vatniks rotting in the ground
    Into HIMARS abyss
    After Iskanders gone
    Two Slavic reichs time
    Mobiks rotting in the ground

    And you may ask yourself "Blyad, Wie schieße ich?"
    And you may ask yourself "Where is that large fleet of Armatas?"
    And you may tell yourself "This is not Russia, Russen Raus!"
    And you may tell yourself "This is not my blood on my knife"

    Letting two weeks go by, water holding kerch bridge down
    Letting two weeks go by, VDV falling to the ground
    Into Gepards abyss
    After Wagner has gone
    Two Slavic reichs time
    Mobiks rotting in the ground

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >when your 50kg payload chinesium drones can't take down a shitty bridge
    Will someone give these subhumans a guided bomb? Anything, optical, laser, infra red, praying to St. Pidorashka, inertial guidance, a fricking V1 missile.
    Jesus how hard is it to explode a bridge when Soviet AA has proven useless time and time again.
    What Air Force doing?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You wouldn't want to provoke the Russian bear now would you?

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    supplying troops with ships is not this hard, but no more vacation and population would be starving

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >supplying troops with ships is not this hard, but no more vacation and population would be starving
      Supply by sea doesn't look all that easy, either. Anything that can be done to the Moskva can be done to a cargo ship, and losing just one means writing off a whole lot of supplies. Using the Russian-flagged vessel "Azov" (IMO: 9156204, MMSI 273398130) as an example, since a bunch of the general cargo ships in the area have similar specs, a 140m ship has a deadweight of around 6200 tonnes, so 17-18 Kerch trains worth of supplies.
      Even when cargo shipping isn't sunk, the turnaround to unload and distribute is going to be slower than rail transit. That means if a unit in the field urgently needs ammo or medical equipment or fuel or whatever, there's going to be more lag, and by the time it arrives there's a chance it will be too late.
      Picking this exact moment to allow the grain deal to expire and painting a target on Russian shipping may go down as one of Putin's most definitive unforced errors in this whole clusterfrick of an SMO.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Picking this exact moment to allow the grain deal to expire and painting a target on Russian shipping may go down as one of Putin's most definitive unforced errors in this whole clusterfrick of an SMO
        I don't think Ukraine's going to renew it either. They won't outright reject it but all of Putin's demands will be considered too high a price for it.
        And third party nations will just ignore it and continue to ship grain because the last thing Russia needs is more enemies.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Agreed, though I'm thinking more in terms of Putin painting himself into a corner by saying that cargo ships are now valid targets. The RuAF will need resupply by sea if rail logistics take another hit (and it looks like that hit might happen sooner rather than later).
          >but Anon, what about airlifting supplies?
          Russia has already shown some problems with their airlifting capabilities, and last weeks drone-based dunk on some of their remaining Ilyushin Il-76s won't help matters at all. Losing one or both of the rail conduits isn't an instant "Game Over" button, but I'd be willing to say it definitely rules out any possibility of a Russian advance, and probably means they can only hold out so long before they have to retreat en masse to their own territory.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >supplying troops with ships is not this hard,

      Yes, in a world where western anti-ship missiles do not exist 🙂

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >western anti-ship missiles
        I guess Ukrainian anti-ship missiles are technically western anti-ship missiles these days.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I live in Crimea and drove through that bridge couple of times.
    Btw, frick urine and their israeli overlords.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Better pack up and leave pidor

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        What is your illness? I heard they even take morons and HIV-positive now.
        I fail to understand why are you not on the frontline.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >slav
          >complains about illness

          hitler extermination round 2 coming for you homie

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            homie, lets see if NATO breaks first line of defense (lmao).

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              NATO hasn't done anything but send supplies.
              If NATO were militarily involved, Putin would already be dead and Russia woukd have been forced to retreat.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If NATO were militarily involved, Putin would already be dead and Russia woukd have been forced to retreat.
                Like in Afghanistan?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                600 days ago every russian thought they could take europe. they can't even take a neighbor without getting raped.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Russian ziggers probably shouldn't invoke Afghanistan.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >u.s. provides ally with embedded a few hundred operators and air strikes
                >taliban quickly lose power and flee to the mountains
                >the actual goal of killing bin Laden and a lot of Al Qaedas higher ups completed.
                >U.S. pulls out and Taliban moves in
                So the Russian military quickly collapses, all of Russia's major government officials will be hunted like vermin, imprisoned or executed. While vatniks hide out in caves hoping NATO leaves?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Keep calming yourself with that.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                More like in Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania. They're located on Russia's doorstep, Medvedev and others have unironically claimed they're rightful Russian clay, and they're a hell of a lot smaller in size than Ukraine.
                What single factor best explains Putin's willingness to violate Russia's obligations in the Budapest Memorandum rather than go after that smaller, more easily managed territory in the Baltics?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >NATO hasn't done anything but send supplies.
                >If NATO were militarily involved, Putin would already be dead and Russia woukd have been forced to retreat.

                Actually NATO themeslves have done nothing but offer some vague warning about how a nuclear strike against Ukraine would be seen as a nuclear strike

                NATO as an organization is defensive, and does little. Countries which are part of NATO have agreed to send aid to Ukraine but that is a decision of each nation. This is also why it's so hard to send armaments, since there's no official treaty and wasn't a system in place to send in what aid or when. For instance, if Poland or Baltics were invaded by Russia, there would be an immediate response and we would know exactly what to ship and arm those states with immediately because it's part of NATO.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Still mad about HIMARS huh? I see it hanging in your cartoon, but the ruskies never killed one

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              first line of defense in a war of aggression you started by the way
              i seriously can't take vatniks seriously whatsoever anymore, i've become immune to demoralization
              i'm fully moralized and laughing my ass off at this whole thing

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/7dKoZac.jpg

              first line of defense in a war of aggression you started by the way
              i seriously can't take vatniks seriously whatsoever anymore, i've become immune to demoralization
              i'm fully moralized and laughing my ass off at this whole thing

              >i'm fully moralized and laughing my ass off at this whole thing
              I've been having a chuckle over the vatnik goalpost-moving on "first main line of defenses"
              >line of contact didn't count
              >miles of mined terrain and pre-sighted arty didn't count
              >that settlement was on the "zero line", not the first
              >Russians are counterattacking in the "crumple zone"
              >it's called a "crumple zone" because it trades space for time
              >the tank ditch didn't count
              >the row of dragons teeth didn't count
              >t-the fighting positions in trenches behind all that are still contested
              I fully expect them to claim in a few months that since further field fortifications remain behind the Surovikin Line, the Russians are still retreating too slowly for it to be called a Ukrainian victory.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >that's not the REAL first line of defense

                Basically. Yeah Ukraine is at the 2nd line.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      For what purpose would you troll /k/ with such obvious lies?
      Do you just enjoy people hating you?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I really live in Crimea, why would I lie about that?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because you're so starved of affection that people insulting you is the best attention that you can get in your life and you'll take it because hateful attention is at least other humans acknowledging your existence, which otherwise never happens for you.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Its all true, but it doesn't mean I lie about residing in Crimea. I have lived here whole my life, since 1993.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            not gonna lie, this post reeks of plebbit

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              You're wrong to mock reddit, aside from anything else there's huge overlap because Reddit is a better source of knowledge than PrepHole. And it has its own meme factories too.
              They're complementary, not competitive.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's sad how far PrepHole has fallen. reddit over the decade has slowly just been a better source for recent news.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Can't they just hire a dominatrix and get it out of their system, or something?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Can't they just hire a dominatrix and get it out of their system
              That costs money and oddly, dominatrixes are the most expensive sex workers even though you often don't frick them.
              I suppose because they put more effort into it than a prostitute that just lies there and gets fricked.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I suppose having someone call you moronic on the internet is something we all get for free at least once or twice.
                Still, quality has to be better than quantity, right?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Still, quality has to be better than quantity, right?
                Definitely but when you don't have that option, I guess you have to make do with a handful of (You)s from people calling you pidor and rashist.
                Better than nothing if the alternative is to be utterly ignored by even the anons of PrepHole.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah man you totally live in crimea. post a timestamp or you're just another fake gay.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            How will timestamp help you?
            I can make a photo of my russian passport, but you Black folk cant read russian anyway.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              alright cool fake gay. glad we came to the same conclusion homosexual lol.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >why would someone lie on the internet?
          really

          https://i.imgur.com/gXhNFaQ.png

          >If NATO were militarily involved, Putin would already be dead and Russia woukd have been forced to retreat.
          Like in Afghanistan?

          yes. Post Osama.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then savor the memory of those drives. And of living in temporarily occupied Crimea. *~~*~~*~~)

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    59461827
    blah blah blah (you) are a gay we get it

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