when is the last time a premier military had desertion levels this high?

when is the last time a premier military had desertion levels this high?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The afghan national army easily tops them all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The ANA is the absolute worst because they could have best the Taliban if they actually fought.

      It was purely due to a complete lack of morale

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was due to a complete lack of will to fight. The soldiers were in for the money and wanted the Taliban more than the joke of a state they had.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >fight for globohomo, as reward get screeching from blue hair feminist landwale
        >fight for Taliban, as reward get state funded e-boi wife
        No shit they had no morale.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they pretty much all got beheaded after we left but its not like life was worth living for most of them

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The plan was to let Moscow be sacked, and draw in the Ukrainians so we can encircle them

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >fight the heckin NAZIS in Ukraine so Putin has more mansions!
          yeah no wonder russians are deserting in droves too

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The ANA is the absolute worst because they could have best the Taliban if they actually fought.
        They could have beat them in some areas, but not nationwide. The IEA was always going to be a contesting force in most places.

        And the problem isn't even the ANA per se. It's the fact that the government was made up of warlords and bums, and the ANA's state is merely the natural consequence of that.
        The relatives/friends of politicians were the ones running most of the opium trade, but you had delusional weirdos online and in media blaming the Taliban....O rly? Then what's stopping them from burning most of it down to hurt the Taliban?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Eeeeeeeeehhh, not by 2019 anymore. ANA was hollowed out by corruption and actually genuinely outmatched in most regards by that point. The Taliban at that point had better leadership, better logistics, better training, even better equipment for a lot of their units. On top of better operational and strategic planning.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Could they though? It seems like the ANA suffered from a lot of the same problem that plague the Russian RuAF. Lots of corruption, lots of soldiers that exist only on paper, piss poor morale on those soldier that actually do exist.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        here we have a rare look at the discuses that Russian conscripts are adopting to escape

        The thing about the ANA is they were designed as a light infantry force for police actions alongside US troops (it was never considered they would need to operate without US air support) which is why they had no heavy equipment like artillery, tanks, fast jets etc. so when the US pulled out all their forces and contractors (including the ones maintaining the ANA's limited aircraft) it completely crippled their fighting ability and tanked moral deeper than the hattaras abyssal plain.

        Essentially the US stabbed them in the back by making a backroom deal with the taliban and running away in the middle of the night leaving them high and dry with 0 support then Biden called them cowards and blamed for not fighting hard enough as if many US troops wouldn't be pissing themselves if they were outnumbered by a major taliban offensive with no IFVs or Tanks for fire support, no artillery or air support, no CASEVAC and no QRF or chance of reinforcement.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In fairness, Trump did something similar with the luckless Kurds throwing them under the bus.

          We also abandoned a lot of our allies in Vietnam.

          BUT, Ukraine is our chance to make amends for all those errors. We need to fully support Ukraine including AFTER the damn war.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A lot of ANA soldiers _did_ care, but their superiors were stealing absolutely everything. When your men are without food and ammo for weeks, how exactly do you fight?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >premier military

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah that’s really the catch here innit.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    premier?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why hello there fellow ho-, I mean Ukrainian civilians. I'm just going on a stroll

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Iraq and Afganistan
    >Drop uniforms
    >Leave the base
    >Let ISIS/Talibans to seize the entire US arsenal

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I don't believe anything I read, including your post.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you should believe Ukraine is winning and 2 more weeks Moscow will be sacked by the brave Ukrainian forces backed by Israel, google, and Bank of America.
      Slava Ukraini!!!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you should believe Ukraine is winning and 2 more weeks Moscow will be sacked by the brave Ukrainian forces backed by Israel, google, and Bank of America.

        The entire Russian frontline in Eastern Ukraine just fucking collapsed overnight and you're still going with that "RUSSIA IS WINNING" bs?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So 2 more weeks and total gnomish victory? Sounds super based tbdesu.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don’t care if someone wants to fuck men so long as they’re good at killing Russians. Why are pro-Russians so obsessed with gay people and trannies?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Russia isn't
            The only people who will lose this war are ordinary Ukrainians who suffer and Russians who are sent off to die in a brothers war.

            This war is an internationalist blood sacrifice to ~~*their*~~ God.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I never mentioned Russia. I literally don't care if Russia wins, I don't give a rat's ass about Russia, and you're correct about (them). I'm just making fun of gay coomer NATO trannies who come in here and spam their shit threads about guzzling the media's brainwash coom like the almondmilk drinking obese queers they are.
              Careful fren you start mentioning the small hat people and you'll be labeled a poltard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Better to die for the freedom of a Homogay in Kyiv then to die fighting for some autocratic fucknugget in Moscow whose made more money than your entire family will make in 100 years

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you do realize that pic like this only makes russia look worse?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ukraine will need more than 2 weeks to defeat us, slava rossya!!!
            And they've lowered their standards again.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All Russians + you should be gassed, kthx

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how about you clear your mind of men in drag for just a minute and actually try to figure out a way for Russia to win the war?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is the difference between Ukraine and Russia.

            Everyone, including the Fembois, fight for their country.

            You see any spoiled rich Moscow residents bravely fighting to "save Russia"? They're all poor minorities Putin rounded up from remote regions to die.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >this is the face of a guy massacring your based and redpilled saviors of the white race
            really embarrassing ain't it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ah, so the objective is now avoiding Moscow being sacked?
        Is going THAT bad?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you sound like the deserters described in OP's article, boss

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I honestly hope the Ukrainians crucify every one of you commie-loving subhumans.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          its gonna take them a while to find me in Texas, best of luck to em

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you're actually American, wow, that's peak cuckmode, simping for people who hate you, hate your people, hate your nation, and want all of those destroyed.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >making fun of gay degenerate liberal western behavior is simping for Russia
              >I'm literally being labeled a Domestic Violent Extremist by my gay gnomish government
              I'm pretty neutral on Russia, the garden gnomenited snakes however loool
              I have opinions.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >n-no I'm neutral on russia I'm just desperately repeating the same vatnik points their shills do
                ok, traitor

                Remember everything you say is archived.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What are you going to do? Find him irl and suck his dick to make him gay?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >make him gay
                >implying he isn’t already
                This homo is already gayer than a pride parade.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmao first they mock you, then they call you vatnik, then they get mad and make threats.
                Are you saying I'm going to be gulag'd by this based liberal DEMOCRATIC government who respects RULES BASED ORDER and LAW?
                Isn't that what you queers accuse Russia of?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what happened to the day of the rope for lying journos? oh, what is it? when you shill against your country it's "just my opinions"?

                all traitors get the rope, you basement dwelling contrarian fags included.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What zero pussy and lots of 4chan does to a motherfucker

                Stay mad gays.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No can do, you're absorbing all the combined seethe in this thread

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bro you're the one melting down lmao, you erroneously confuse ridicule for seething.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bro that's sad. If you hate your government and country so much why don't you just leave it? I'd take a Hispanic over some whiny moron who's never known hardship outside their comfy little 1st world nation.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What zero pussy and lots of 4chan does to a motherfucker

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm neutral on Russia
                >But everyone in the west is gay as fuck, two more weeks to Moscow, the war is just like my Marvel movies

                You really aren't fooling anyone anon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fucking watching the grey matter dribble out of anon's ears in real time here. Believe it or not you don't have to spend your whole life furiously masturbating on pol.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            austin I take it you fag?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >backed by Israel, google, and Bank of America
        And Elon Musk.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He recently mentioned in a Q&A that he had those ready before things actually kicked off and that was the only reason they could deploy them within a matter of days. I'm assuming that means someone from the government asked him to send them there prior to the invasion (which R*ssia obviously telegraphed a shit ton).

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    what does anything you wrote have to do with what OP posted?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm saying its western corporate media propaganda to sell this war to you, the viewer, whos tax dollars and weapons are furthering this conflict.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i want my tax dollars to go towards killing russians

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lol, you fucking npc vatnik.

          You are either too stupid to know you're being propagandized or you're literally posting from Israel/Ukraine and you're a gay gay 😉
          2 more weeks tho amirite? All of the Russian army is going to desert and theres going to be a victory parade televised on CNN.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i want more dead russians

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >2 more weeks tho amirite
            this is as retarded as dumb leftoids calling others snowflakes, it's just projection

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No no we are very well aware we’re being propagandized. I am not immune to propaganda, but you know what? I like it, no actually, I LOVE it. I love seeing the entire western world come together to dunk on malding Russian “soldiers”. Maybe if Russian wasn’t made up of greedy oligarchs and degenerates they could save you from globalhomo. But no, they were too busy selling every last working piece of equipment to get a bigger mansion, more cars, or to live a more decadent western lifestyle (like a washing machine). What does that mean for you? It means state enforced homosexuality, and mixed race couples. Sorry vatnik, but democracy has won.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lmao, ok this is a good post

              https://i.imgur.com/0vUy4gT.jpg

              I don’t care if someone wants to fuck men so long as they’re good at killing Russians. Why are pro-Russians so obsessed with gay people and trannies?

              Hey your post is made by someone who is anti-Russian, my post was made by actual Ukrainians bragging about gays, so you tell me who is obsessed with homosex.
              Here's NATO view of homosex, picrel.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would anyone be mad gays support them lmao. You’re telling me if gays supported Russia you’d be on the side of Ukraine????

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Gays aren't going to support Russia because Russia has made being a gay publicly, illegal.
                Next stupid question.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The same Russia that is the AIDS capital of the world, which is primarily spread by buttsex between homos? That Russia?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I literally don't support either side, so saying this to me doesn't mean anything. I'm simply telling you the people in charge of these respective countries in this conflict have differing views on degenerate behavior.
                You're the one with a dog in this fight and clearly it triggers you to know you're on the queer gay side whos pushing queer chud ass sex on the world.
                Sorry gay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >differing views on degenerate behavior.
                looks like you're wrong pussy moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they just push whatever is the most divisive, like the soviet union used to.
                they are subhumans and need to be destroyed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I literally don't support either side
                yeah, we see that
                you just happen to have a hard drive full of LGBT and regular gays contents
                kinda sus if you ask me, but i'm not judging your life choices, because i actually have a life

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I literally don’t support either side
                >but I do have a bunch of nato is gay pics and vehemently deny accusations of Russia being gay as aids
                Post guns or sugar you fucking vatmoron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon you're really not fooling anyone. You're just a huge contrarian homo. You'll still be "dunking on" NATO after Russia has withdrawn and NATO reigns supreme. No one is phased by anything you're saying. No one is seething.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >phased
                Fazed

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So Ukrainians are automatically criminals the second they set foot in Russia. Interesting.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia has made being a gay publicly, illegal.
                suuuuuure

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Gays aren't going to fight for Russia because Russia has made being a gay publicly, illegal.

                If you are actually American you have my sympathy for being a victim of demoralisation and US political brainrot. Where you can no longer view any issue outside of the polarising lense of American two party politics. Where rather than come to your own conclusions on an issue you will adopt a position purely because it is the opposite of what the other side supports. It only gets worse and your worldview becomes even more overarching the more time you spend on 4chan getting shilled to and demoralised.

                Before you know it you are so mentally maimed that not only are you shilling for a 3rd world aids ridden klepocracy and supporting them trying to annex another country's oil reserves "because of the trannies" but you are doing it for free like a janny.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Sakhalin
                LMAOOOOOOO!!!!!
                Can you imagine the US Army going to war against Mexico and losing so badly they start recruiting twinks from the Aleutian Islands?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                all of you morons have HIV lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >says the guy whos nation has child trannies and gay parades weekly
                yawn, I'm not Russian and I don't care if they have gays who die of AIDS too. God wills all gays to suffer, die, and go to hell.

                So Ukrainians are automatically criminals the second they set foot in Russia. Interesting.

                lol, guess so based on these replies

                https://i.imgur.com/3g28bcc.jpg

                >differing views on degenerate behavior.
                looks like you're wrong pussy moron

                RT is an international media organization that appeals to the local populations attitudes, so make of that image what you will. Says more about gay huehues than anything.

                >I literally don't support either side
                yeah, we see that
                you just happen to have a hard drive full of LGBT and regular gays contents
                kinda sus if you ask me, but i'm not judging your life choices, because i actually have a life

                >I literally don’t support either side
                >but I do have a bunch of nato is gay pics and vehemently deny accusations of Russia being gay as aids
                Post guns or sugar you fucking vatmoron

                Well I am tired of you pro-NATO gays and your shit threads, so dunking on you is entertaining. Notice you don't see thread after thread of people shilling for Russia, curious. It would appear you are all totally organic normal posters, yes indeed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post guns or sugar pidor

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is the epitome of losing an argument lmao, cant even refute what I say just claim I'm Russian or Serb. I don't eat processed sugar btw.
                Hows it feel to be gay and wrong?

                >Notice you don't see thread after thread of people shilling for Russia, curious
                you are right, there's not much shill threads for russia, but there are plenty of shitposts and shitposters (like you) clogging this place up with the same "organic" material "NATO == trannies", "globohomo", "joos" and since lately "winter is coming"
                that only comes to show you have nothing to shill about from your collapsing fronts, and relay on random shitposting to derail the threads
                but yeah, you are definitely fully independent and not taking side

                Why would I miss an instance of trolling establishment shills who shit up this board? Is this a Russian psyop that CNN warned you about?!?!

                Anon you're really not fooling anyone. You're just a huge contrarian homo. You'll still be "dunking on" NATO after Russia has withdrawn and NATO reigns supreme. No one is phased by anything you're saying. No one is seething.

                Thats why you posted right? Because you aren't triggered by someone having a wrongthink, right.

                I'm not going to reply to all of you assblasted globohomo shills lol, ugh I know I know, its just that I'm not gonna do it hahahaha

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >be American
                >can be anything you want
                >chose to be gay for putin’s dick
                Damn bro.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the only one shitting up the board with his constant yapping of a hysterical woman is you, bro
                you are also the only one who's getting triggered and gets mad in the end

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Notice you don't see thread after thread of people shilling for Russia, curious
                you are right, there's not much shill threads for russia, but there are plenty of shitposts and shitposters (like you) clogging this place up with the same "organic" material "NATO == trannies", "globohomo", "joos" and since lately "winter is coming"
                that only comes to show you have nothing to shill about from your collapsing fronts, and relay on random shitposting to derail the threads
                but yeah, you are definitely fully independent and not taking side

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >otice you don't see thread after thread of people shilling for Russia

                That's not true, in almost every thread there is a huge gay like you shilling for Russia. Your initial post is the same tired nonsense always spouted by 4chan gays complaining about ze bugs and ze pods. Go ahead and kvetch more, it won't change reality and you'll still be a whiny moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >mass replying moron still at it
                have a nice day, third world dog.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, I'm just smart enough to know you're repeating Russian Ministry of the Defense talking points, and you're too stupid and far gone to know you're an useful idiot the for enemies America.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >you're an useful idiot the for enemies America.
              Let me guess, you're from eastern Europe or the caucaus mountains? You don't know shit about my country or it's enemies.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lol, you fucking npc vatnik.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, that's pretty demoralizing I must say.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Much obliged, me, Joe Burguer from Montana Oblast, think the brandon swamp dog administration should stop wasting my tax rubles on the war on ukrain just so they can sell my white wife to the joos and black man, not near my cousin!!!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >brandon swamp dog administration
          Fucking hell does this meme have legs

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    vietnam

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are these donbaweans or actual russians?

    If they are russians, whats the plan after desertion? Going native? They wont be able to go back

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how old are russian soldiers some look in their 50s now but the ones at the start of the war were all in their 20s
    ngl some of those passport photos made me sad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like you said, younger generations were exterminated earlier on.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's very telling Ukrainian troops look far younger than Russian ones. Ukrainians from ALL walks of life fight for Ukraine. Rich Moscowvites hide from the war.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >desert in civilian clothes
    >get drafted to DNR military by the street corner liutenant colonel
    >rinse and repeat

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Russian sources were saying the same a couple days ago so it's probably true on some level

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    someone post the webm of a shoreline covered in abandoned russian gear

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Damn I opened my own new salt mine with this thread. Anyways gotta go get ready for tonights hog hunt, remember to dilate your gaping wound where your cock used to be you gay CIA chud gays 😉

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Anyways gotta go get ready for tonights hog hunt,
      I guess that’s one way to say you go look for dudes dicks to suck in park bro. Have fun you fabulous gay.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hog hunt

      Is that where you fuck a fat chick?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You 4chantards have to be rooting for losers as a meme at this point

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I really, really, REALLY hope you're being paid for this.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's not. He's a NEET that's going to run off back to /chug/ with his tail between his legs and comfort himself with some child porn

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i'm not mad, you are mad
      >"anyways going to do COOL SHIT now"
      >*set of predefined buzzword insults*
      we accept your surrender, just don't fall off the t72 champ

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't we all just get along?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WOWIE IS THAT A HECKING MEDIA STORY ON HOW VATNIKS ARE LOSING
    IT HECKING IS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They literally are though

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    15? wow

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, more than one desertion every other hour (that we know of) is significant.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    US during 'Nam probably, when people got their draft notice and went to Canada? Not exactly the same, but still desertion

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, draft dodging is fairly different from desertion as you can't abandon the post you don't hold. If draft dodging counts, though, then ww2 soviets take the cake. Even executions didn't help.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia is number 1, even basic troop get desserts

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ukraine 2014. army was officially 400k+, less than 40k active within a few weeks. in case you were wondering why the russians thought they could just parade into kiev.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironic historical fact, US troops mutinied after V-J day because there were rumors they'd be stuck in Asia still by Christmas. It's not easy to get millions of people BACK from overseas, not without letting in a bunch of immigrants and spies on accident, and the boats were already working around the clock.
    There's no easy way to say that to soldiers who just tidily won you a war, however. It doesn't help that Communists were actively agitating and lying about the government's goals and activities as they brought people back.
    After everyone came home, it all went back to normal.
    Distinctly different from Russian abandooning because (1) it happened after the war and (2) it wasn't a dereliction of duty, it was a distrust of authority, a proud American condition. Russians aren't quitting because they distrust the Russian government, they're quitting because they see no value in the entire Russian cause.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All fucking Russians must fucking hang, globohomo power!

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    World War 2.

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