When is the Air Force gonna deploy this thing? We already know they're gonna name it after some stargate character.

When is the Air Force gonna deploy this thing? We already know they're gonna name it after some stargate character.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't this just gimbal glare?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And there are plenty of people that debunk the gimbal rotation theory.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I love how this retard is just ignoring the pilots

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          True, I believe the infallible works of god are
          >The Old Testament
          >The New Testament
          >The Pilot's Testament

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >likely
        >If I just invent facts that fit my theory, it makes it seem more true.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Disprove it retard.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            prove there isn't a massive disembodied cock and balls orbiting the sun out past Pluto
            you can't
            retard

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Cry all you want, you can't undemonstrate four observables.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yep. It might still be UFO with weird propulsion - because as far as we know it was not revealed what they were chasing.
      But the video definitely isn't the shape of object. Just a glare of something producing or reflecting lots of heat with no extra information to go by.

      IMHO if there's anything worth deploying in doomsday scenario it's so hush there are no UAP comitees or what not even mentioning the nature of its operation. Be it flying, swiming, mind controling, reality bending or whatever.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They missed their opportunity to use it as an asymmetric capability, the Chinese "Tic-Tac" program has progressed rapidly in recent years

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > behold the taikonaut receptacle, all systems go for insertion

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's not a craft you idiots. it's what the business end of a proton beam looks like.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Digger1 was a mistake

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Damn. Well memed, anon. 10/10

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This has always been /k/‘s kryptonite.
    The legions of Enlisted men, with a belief in their complete awareness of the world around them, with such sureness about every scenario.
    Could it be unexplained? No! Everything is military! Everything is in our control!
    These are the words of people with a hubris that knows no ends. They cannot confess that they don’t know, they are adamant that humans are responsible for this, because for that paradigm to fracture would mean the fracturing of their conception of reality.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The irony and complete lack of self awareness in this statement is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It’s always types like yourself who act like arrogant pricks, pretending you know exactly what this thing is, and cannot simply say that it’s just anomalous and more research should go to understanding the cause.
        This is coming from a sceptic who used to read Michael Shermer religiously, until he started doing mental gymnastics over the UAP program and acted like he understood Air Force camera optics better than Air Force pilots.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It actually is military but that tech was developed from tech transfer the US set up with ayys in their treaty in the 1950.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Could it be unexplained? No! It MUST be extraterrestrials visiting our planet and the gubment is suppressing it from us cause they hate freedom!
      Don't get me wrong, it would be cool if aliens were real but all the ufologists who talk about this are so fucking dumb and boring.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bird / floating debris?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It is Navy tech, not Air Force. Phased Plasma Hologram. NAVAIR and SPAWAR realized in the early 2000s that CSGs and SAGs no longer had acceptable survivability against massed ASCM attack. Air Force research into DEW hard kill tech with chemical lasers had not yielded good results. So they developed this style of decoy. In the mid 2010s, breakthroughs were made with solid state lasers and the doctrine switched back to hard kill DEW for point defense as is currently being deployed. Unlikely the holograms will see operational use now. It's pretty clear what happened though, a lot of the patents are public record (with redacted sections) that exactly describe the behavior of the tic tacs. And were filed by guys on Navair contract.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      these retards are too dumb to understand what you're talking about. they've bought hook line and sinker into the "UFO" misinformation campaign propped up by the government that these things are extraterrestrial space ships.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This comes to mind...
      https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread904926/pg4
      https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread220613/pg1
      I 100% believe this is a Navy project. I found an old defense rag article that the Nimitz had a "classified upgrade to it's Aegis radar system" around this time, and Ryan Graves confirmed that around this time they had also had a classified upgrade to his radar system on whatever he was flying. Plus, the Navy is ~~*allegedly*~~ leading the charge on "muh lazers".

      https://i.imgur.com/pDTIO16.png

      these retards are too dumb to understand what you're talking about. they've bought hook line and sinker into the "UFO" misinformation campaign propped up by the government that these things are extraterrestrial space ships.

      I would argue that at least a few of them are plasma sheathed aircraft. I don't disagree that these are more than likely plasma ball countermeasures for the most part. The real "craft" that exhibit crazy non-inertial behavior all are triangle and/saucer shaped.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >plasma sheathed aircraft
        they are not aircraft full stop. get that shit out of your head anon. that's the bullshit misinformation the US government has been promoting for decades

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Buddy, for sure at least some of these are plasma sheathed manned aircraft. Not saying these, but some of the sightings for sure. They have at least a few B-2 retrofits.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Bullshit my man

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              A b2 simply isn’t large enough to hold any device that could generate the power required to produce a plasma field big enough to cover the plane.

              https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread935820/pg1
              You can see exactly what he's talking about on the Spirit of Mississippi (I think)

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.sbir.gov/node/386420
              https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231028185_Plasma_assisted_ignition_and_high-speed_flow_control_Non-thermal_and_thermal_effects
              But it's all bullshit, right?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Does this look like a "plasma sheet" to you?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So, let me get this straight...you DO believe that we use crossed pulsed lasers to produce plasma balls for radar decoys, but you DO NOT believe we have tried to use plasma systems on aircraft for drag reduction and radar absorption? Pretty retarded, anon. Boeing is even attempting to use some of these concepts on commerical airliners for fuel economy, but instead of plasma it's sonic emitters

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's not lasers anon, it's proton beams. Lasers are light and therefore subject to all the limitations there in. A proton beam goes through atmospheric conditions like they aren't even there. It's a weapon that has the ability to knock planes out of the sky at will simply by frying the electrical systems of the aircraft subjected to plasma the beam generates at its point of discharge.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, I have heard the proton beam theory years ago. And it is plausible. We can also do the same thing with lasers and phase conjugate optics for dispersion correction.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The problem with lasers is that light power is government by the inverse square principle. Everytime the distance measured is doubled, the output power is quartered. This means that the measured energy of light falls off very very quickly. A proton beam on the other hand is the exact opposite. A proton beam loses very little energy while they are moving and don't release the vast majority of their energy until the protons come to rest. This would in theory make for a much better weapon system than a laser.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Here is some discussion about proton beams, among other things.
                https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1289063/pg1

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Creating plasma with lasers or designing a plasma thruster is quite a bit different than
                >coating an aircraft in a plasma shield, even ones that already exist and were never made to be coated in plasma
                I can't prove Atlantis exists by linking to a study about the long term health impacts of diving bells.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How do you know that it wasn't built with this application in mind? It is mostly composite construction and has relatively few control surfaces.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >How do you know
                How do you?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't implicitly, but use your head.
                >Boeing - Can we put that cool plasma system we designed for your classified aircraft projects on a commercial plane?
                >DoD - Sure, knock yourself out

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >that cool plasma system we designed for your classified aircraft projects
                All I'm asking for is evidence this exists at all.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He has none. Meanwhile there is not only evidence of the proton beams but weee using them on a small scale every day to treat cancer.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Boeing is even attempting to use some of these concepts on commerical airliners for fuel economy, but instead of plasma it's sonic emitters
                >but instead of plasma it isn't plasma
                lamo

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because the plasma applications are probably classified, dipshit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Read: dog ate my proof

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >t. DIA

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            A b2 simply isn’t large enough to hold any device that could generate the power required to produce a plasma field big enough to cover the plane.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Plasma sheath manipulation of hypersonic systems for everything from ECM to active aerodynamic control and drag reduction is being developed, some systems are in a deployable state. I know that this technology extends into larger manned craft but cannot speculate on they deploy ability of such systems.

            >t. DoEanon

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              No one wants to hear it, anon. It's proton beams all the way down, apparently

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tic-Tacs are a cover story for the US Navy's Laser Induced Plasma Filament decoy system to fool IR missiles and IRST systems. See:

      It can also transmit voice:

      There's a radar spoofing EW technique called Doppler shifting. Which allows you to fool the enemy radar into thinking a plane is in another location, going at a different speed. Add to the LIDF decoy system, and you fool both radar and IR sensors. There's also pulse conjugation, in which you cancel out the return pulse of the radar, to a point that's below environmental noise, or below the signal-to-noise ratio of the receiver, making you invisible, in a sense.
      Paper on how to shift Doppler and range of an object:
      https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA615308.pdf

      I suspect it's part of the US Navy's Netted Emulation of Multi-Element Signature against Integrated Sensors (NEMESIS) program.

      >NEMESIS is not just some 'paper program.' From publicly available, but obscure documents we've collected, it's clear that, for years, the Navy has been developing and integrating multiple types of unmanned vehicles, shipboard and submarine systems, countermeasures and electronic warfare payloads, and communication technologies to give it the ability to project what is, in essence, phantom fleets of aircraft, ships, and submarines. These realistic-looking false signatures and decoys have the ability to appear seamlessly across disparate and geographically separated enemy sensor systems located both above and below the ocean's surface.
      https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29505/the-navys-secretive-nemesis-electronic-warfare-capability-will-change-naval-combat-forever

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        BINGO

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Huh. I think I may have seen one of these in action in Southern California around 2015 or 2016. I was on the freeway about an hour East of San Diego. Can these move quickly? The ball of light I saw moved seemingly from stationary to mach 10 in less than a second.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Can these move quickly?
          I don't know for certain, but I assume they can, as they use a laser (speed of light) to induce the plasma filaments.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds plausible.
      Provide sources. At least the patents.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/ZN6gNwo.png

        Tic-Tacs are a cover story for the US Navy's Laser Induced Plasma Filament decoy system to fool IR missiles and IRST systems. See:

        It can also transmit voice:

        There's a radar spoofing EW technique called Doppler shifting. Which allows you to fool the enemy radar into thinking a plane is in another location, going at a different speed. Add to the LIDF decoy system, and you fool both radar and IR sensors. There's also pulse conjugation, in which you cancel out the return pulse of the radar, to a point that's below environmental noise, or below the signal-to-noise ratio of the receiver, making you invisible, in a sense.
        Paper on how to shift Doppler and range of an object:
        https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA615308.pdf

        I suspect it's part of the US Navy's Netted Emulation of Multi-Element Signature against Integrated Sensors (NEMESIS) program.

        >NEMESIS is not just some 'paper program.' From publicly available, but obscure documents we've collected, it's clear that, for years, the Navy has been developing and integrating multiple types of unmanned vehicles, shipboard and submarine systems, countermeasures and electronic warfare payloads, and communication technologies to give it the ability to project what is, in essence, phantom fleets of aircraft, ships, and submarines. These realistic-looking false signatures and decoys have the ability to appear seamlessly across disparate and geographically separated enemy sensor systems located both above and below the ocean's surface.
        https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29505/the-navys-secretive-nemesis-electronic-warfare-capability-will-change-naval-combat-forever

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. It's not even a physical object. REDFOR is spoofing their scope with some sort of EW.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    GOOLD?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Only acceptable answer

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This black line is definitely not a shadow, and not present in photos of other B-2s.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's absolutely a shadow you retard. The plane is being backlit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/9SG1quc.png

        That's just the non-conductive carbon composite edge.

        Not a shadow.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >factory fresh first B-2 to roll off the line
          >has feature not seen in later airplanes
          truly mystifying, groundbreaking revelations here anon

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's almost like they covered it in RAM or something...You're a complete fucking retard.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              holy crap, they covered something in RAM? please tell me more of why this matters at all

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you seriously retarded? If your car has a black bumper, blue hood, red fenders, what happens to them when you spray a coat of primer onto them?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't get why the black leading edge is relevant to anything here, you seem to just be pointing it out for the hell of it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's just the non-conductive carbon composite edge.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Link from which I got that:
        https://basicsaboutaerodynamicsandavionics.wordpress.com/2016/03/04/stealth-techniques-and-benefits/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Great article thank you
          The math went over my head though

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tell me these things dont look like Goold death gliders

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They have almost nothing in common. Death glider wings are smoothly curved, half-annular, slightly forward-swept.
        I thought they were inspited by something in the old Wing Commander games.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why would the Air Force attack itself?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably a training exercise to test out their fancy new radar upgrades. Even the pilots say "we upgraded our radar, and now we see them all the time"

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Pais?useskin=vector

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The "Pais Effect" could not be proven and no further research was conducted.[8] Brett Tingley wrote for The Drive that "Despite every physicist we have spoken to over the better part of two years asserting that the "Pais Effect" has no scientific basis in reality and the patents related to it were filled with pseudo-scientific jargon,
      wow

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What black projects do you anons believe are real? It can be well known ones like Aurora, or things most of us aren't aware of

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That is an ancient shitpost anon
      it is quite literally a dorito.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But it's based on what that bong saw on the oil rig.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't be too surprised if SDI wasn't a "failure" and we have israeli Space Lasers floating above us right now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >stealth blimp / LTA
      >some sort of high supersonic / hypersonic manned aircraft (faster than sr71) tested in late 80s / early 90s. at the least, up to operational status
      >various other operational classified aircraft, some of which may have already been retired without ever being disclosed
      >star link is actually for the military
      >various classified stealth drone aircraft
      >various anti satellite capabilities, including DEWs
      >probably some sp00py socom shit that has little utility elsewhere, but is borderline sci-fi
      >whatever crazy shit the nsa is doing

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I want to see the Star Gate first.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough! I'm writing my Congressman to ask if aliens are real!

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Aliens find resource rich, life supporting world
    >Do nothing with it

    But why?

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    stop spreading your psyop bs, glowie

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