When is power armor gonna start becoming standard issue for militaries?

When is power armor gonna start becoming standard issue for militaries?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When the US decides it wants to swing its dick around more. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the US doesn't already have some for limited use for secret squirrel raids. Consider the pano night vision and stealth blackhawks people didn't know about until the Bin Laden raid.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The problem holding up powered armour (and really, deep electronic integration into equipment and weaponry in general) is batteries. What is needed is a battery that is almost comically energy dense, fast recharging, capable of operating at low temperatures, able to be made small, non volatile and inherently rugged. The only type of battery that meets all of those requirements is a glass battery. A type of battery that is at-least a good decade away from even early stage commercialisation, let alone military testing and integration.
    Because of the glass battery, powered armour is basically an inevitability. But because of just how long these sorts of bleeding edge technologies take to mature (outside of world war type crash programs), I would not expect the first practical powered armour prototypes before the 2050s.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ODST armor it is

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ODST armor is the correct route honestly, passively powered titanium/ceramic composite armor capable of shrugging of 7.62 nato. Not some insane war machine, but enough protection that warrants using bigger stuff against them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You think with the hard push towards EVs, the bad press that lithium and cobalt mining are getting and our utter dependence on mobile devices that there would be tons of money and man hours put into battery development.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There IS. But you can't just throw hours and money at these things to finish them quickly. At some point throwing more hands at the problem get in the way. There's time to develop and test each iteration of the idea that's inevitable.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          maybe if they paid chemists non-shit wages we would be more motivated to work

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There already is, bro. There are more billion dollar R&D departments than you can count feverishly trying to improve batteries as much as they can all around the world.

        It's just hard, that's all. They make improvements, but they're incremental. It's not everyday batteries make a huge leap forward.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But then we would be using these superpower batteries to power super hand weapons that could defeat the power armor. You arn't thinking it through.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Glass battery
      *meme battery
      FTFY

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >muh batrees
      ooooor, you could just skip the battery entirely and use a portable fusion reactor like a normal person.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >We will one day have vidya tier enemies of assholes in power armor with battery weakspots that can be shot for explosive instakills.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The answer is a tiny displacement, high efficiency internal combustion engine. Batteries suck compared to hydrocarbon energy storage.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Also known as a gas turbine. They exist, they can power a fairly heavy combat suit right now. The problem is "muh noise" which leads to silly requirements like needing another separate battery to power the thing silently.

        I can see noise being a problem if you want to put energy hungry equipment on an otherwise unaugmented soldier, like sneaky beaky special forces doing their thing. But when it comes to issuing something to frontline infantry who is going to be walking alongside a tank that is vastly louder than his own turbine, that rationale goes completely out the window and is pointless to consider.

        The MIC isn't exactly interested in effectiveness, obviously. You create a system where profit is the primary motive, you get results where profit is the primary motive. Pretty simple story.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wouldn’t the exhaust cause all sorts of issues indoors?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          When you reach the point of full face helmets and armor thick enough to become a serious heat stroke risk, you will probably also include gas filters, air tanks and some climate conditioning. Not going to be healthy for normal people in the same room but then you can just avoid forming mixed squads. How toxic is JP8 fumes again?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I guess we’re assuming a warzone=>no civilians?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I guess we're assuming we will be committing war crimes by hiding behind civilians?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I dunno seems like you might occasionally have to enter a building with civilians in it. Maybe everyone gets out before gases build up enough to be a problem. Seems like it might build fast with a group of armored soldiers though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Three times the power density of lithium ion batteries still won't make powerarmor viable for military use.
      But maybe we'll start to see powered exoskeletons for construction work and such.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >comically energy dense, fast recharging, capable of operating at low temperatures, able to be made small, non volatile and inherently rugged
      It's called diesel moron.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >glass battery
      Holy brainlet

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is this the suit that can take a .50 round (according to puccia)

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What the fuck is wrong with that stock?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      1) Russian
      2) Its meant to be a bullpup, it just doesn't have the rear magazine loaded. The front magazine is for the underbarrel. Hence the retarded stubby wings for a stock.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Leans against the armour not the shoulder. Possibly because the traditional aiming isn't possible/with the helmet. But instead has a HUD or something
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  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    power armor isnt gonna be a thing anytime soon
    but we will get lots of wheeled UGVs and passive exosuits which will allow soldiers to carry far heavier weapons and a lot of ammo for them.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How about you post something better than some pieces of plastic?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I hate this fucking vatnik trash by the way
    >Oh just put a hexagon pattern on it that'll make it look futuristic

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't work.
    It's never going to work.
    The little motors mean nothing compared to big muscles. And the big batteries it takes to power the little motors weigh more than the little motors can carry anyway.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have to level up and visit the Brotherhood of Steel and they'll train you.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    think bigger

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Evangelion when?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We will probably see power loaders type suits for pogs and artillery crews first, being used to lift heavy objects like pallets or shells/rockets in a controlled environment where the power source is near.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Put on a motorcycle helmet, or a snorkel. And try doing some jumping jacks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well there’s no reason to have an enclosed helmet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Okay but now do it in a suit that does most of the jumping for you? You do understand what the point of power armor is right?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >standard issue
    I think you're overestimating the value the US puts on its reg forces.
    It will become standard issue when it becomes more disposable than the manpower.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Never. Armor is already so counterproductive that making it even more complicated and heavy would produce negative battlefield outcomes. The only conceivable need for it would be EOD or HVT acquisition in places robots cant go.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty soon, but Russia is already way behind Africa in armor tech

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is this a Mad Capsule Markets cover band?

      Or is it, like, The Blue Man Group....except, Brown?

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Never

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If another major world war happens.
    No one is interested in researching anything cool right now. We're trying to fiigure out how to get 14 year olds into work

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Once Neuralink gets their shit together and battery tech makes the next leap.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    that is not power armour but a "heavy" armour (more like LARP armour) real power armour would give the user powered movement for joints and strength making it light and extending the soldiers strength. this aint it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. If it isn't enhancing the wearers strength/stamina (at the very least) then it's just an expensive fancy dress costume.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        not if it stops bullets and shrapnel

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That pic is from AT-43 miniatures rules, not Starship Troopers

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Someone points that out every time I post it, but the portrayal of the suits there (particularly the one to the left hand side of the pic) fits better with Heinlein's description of the suits in the book than any of the art specifically for Troopers that I can find.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'll give you that. It's certainly a better representation than the movies.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Oh, god, I'd managed to repress the memories of the third Starship Troopers film - thanks for bringing that back up for me.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I made the mistake of trying to watch the second one last night. I lasted about 15 minutes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're a braver man than I then. Would it really hurt them to give us a faithfully adapted telling the story of the book properly? Maybe with either spin-offs or side arcs exploring the bits of the lore that the book only references without going into in depth - a K9 team, a group of teenagers putting in their federal service on a terraforming station, a serviceman receiving his honourable discharge after the bug war and struggling to make the switch back to life outside of the forces even in one of the 'maintained' jobs that he managed to pick up back home. Particularly at the moment it's not like the public isn't going for good sci-fi, so I wonder what their excuse is?

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming the power issues could be solved, I don't see it being all that useful except for maybe specops spooks like Delta

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In one of two cases.
    >1) When some government decides that a basic riflemans life is worth 10s of millions of dollars (including the research and development costs) the suits will cost. So never.
    and
    >2) when the price of each suit comes down to the point where it's no longer cost prohibitive. So ... never.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When the ability to easily destroy it is not avaliable to the average (first world) infantryman.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When you stop touching yourself at night

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    SoonTM

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When batteries become efficient and compact enough to be able to last a minimum of 8 to 24 hours whilst powering an exoskeleton and also still giving you the ability to carry another 20kg in addition to the battery and exo skeleton you are now wearing.
    Tp;Rd when batteries get 5 times as good as current state of the art

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Simple matter of "How the fuck do we get a power source small and light enough into our armor before our guns make the very notion of such armor a meme"

    Nuclear batteries or Glass batteries might work, but development is iffy due to a whole shitload of issues, so in all realistic sense by the time the armor exists, it'll be next to pointless.

    Maybe if we make actual flying Iron Man armor so we can turn individual troops into their own Fighter Jets it could work, but that has its own issues I can't even bother thinking of rn.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What do you mean when, it already is in Wakanda

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've designed the solution. We put the engine in the shoes

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all these battery cucks ITT
    in the future your wives and their kit will be nuclear powered.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Your post is gay but it gave me an idea. Isn’t there that meme article about self sufficient robots that recycle “human material” aka eat dead bodies? What if that was implemented into the shit design?

      >tell soldier the more they kill the more powerful the suit becomes
      >unleash battalion of mechanized bloodthirsty soldiers encased in cannibal suits

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The issue is not that the US can’t have power armor, flying tanks, laser cannons and whatever the hell else. The issue is that we’ve already won permanent World Protagonist status and any further development is based on some theoretical war with Russia, which is falling on its sword willingly for us, or China, who are busy collapsing internally.

    Same problem we had with the F-22. A superb bit of equipment but people have to ask who exactly it’s there to fight against when no country even has a chance in hell of challenging the US, even in their own airspace.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >China, who are busy collapsing internally.
      LOL, you wish.
      If anything, the US is collapsing internally and turning into a third-world country much more rapidly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh plz you tanky weibro. China tries to be in the third world when it can benefit from it, anyway. And it can't get better because nobody will stop what the government is doing.
        If the stuff that happens in china happened in the US-- yeah, there would be mass protest and huge problems, which will slow things down, but it won't turn the US into the third world. China is just going to get worse and worse until finally the people aren't afraid anymore-- they can barely hide how things are going right now, so when things really fall apart they won't be able to hide it at all.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is an smaller, poorer than average city in China

          This is a rich American city, full of history and vibrant American culture

          Why are Americans so backwards?
          >inb4, urr, urr that`s photoshop.
          Here you have 1 hour walk retards

          And here, a drive through Chongqing, China's largest city by population.

          China is also safe, unlike the USA:

          ?t=537
          > T-two more weeks, China will collapse!!
          lol.
          Dude, they're getting stronger all the time, as the US gets weaker and more "diverse."

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >1 billion+ population
            >one the biggest areas of air pollution besides India
            >communist
            >manufactures loads of cheap shit for other countries
            >child labor
            >ghost cities
            >retarded and absolutely horrendous policies and overall history
            >monopoly on academics
            >literally look up Tiananmen Square
            dude, come on. its not very difficult to see reality how it is, and not who others want YOU to see it as. Please stop sucking chicom dick, you doomer cuck.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >1 billion+ population
              A strength, not a weakness, and this is trivially obvious.
              >one the biggest areas of air pollution besides India
              Because they have the largest industrial base in the world, by far. Again, a strength, not a weakness. When England was the most powerful country in the world, it was also the worst country for air pollution.
              >communist
              Literally less communist than the UK, and arguably less communist than the USA. It's more laissez-faire capitalism, if anything.
              >manufactures loads of cheap shit for other countries
              As opposed to manufacturing nothing for nobody? Hey, they also manufacture your iPhone, your laptop, etc.
              >child labor
              Hey, when I was a kid, I'd rather be working than be stuck in that K-12 hell.
              >ghost cities
              As opposed to hovels that cost $300k? Low real estate prices are, again, a strength and not a weakness.
              >retarded and absolutely horrendous policies and overall history
              Vague and utterly meaningless. When was the last time China attacked a country it doesn't border? China is a peaceful land, overall.
              >monopoly on academics
              Uhhh... so?
              >literally look up Tiananmen Square
              Oh no muh USG-supported agitators!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Hey, when I was a kid, I'd rather be working than be stuck in that K-12 hell
                It shows.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >If anything, the US is collapsing internally and turning into a third-world country much more rapidly.

        Proofs? Drama is not proof. The economy is doing fine and anyone who wants a job has one unless they are personally so defective an heroism is the only solution.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When they start producing cheap sub nanometer chips and copious amounts of graphene

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