But after polish soviet war we got camps for kacaps. Wadowice, in poland known for place of birth le polish pope while for kacaps place of death their relatives.
slander, Poles are nice to POWs
they would feed the devil
memoirs from the battle of Vienna aftermath: >The Germans, on the other hand, took no captives, but killed them crudelissime [with exceeding cruelty]. Even after death, they dragged their corpses about; flayed them, twisted the flayed strips into straps they might use; the third day after the battle, it was already hard to see a Turk on the battlefield with his body entire; and if any of our men was not cautious in leading a captive, and he rode among Germans, they would seize the prisoner out of his grasp and kill him.
>My nephew Stanisław Pasek was leading a Turk, some kind of important fellow, for he was handsomely attired and riding a beautiful horse; my nephew, having disarmed the captive, was leading him along on his horse, holding only the reins, when along comes a German, rides alongside the Turk, and stabs him with a dagger. The Turk only groaned; my nephew looked back, and the Turk, mouth agape, is slipping off his horse. Having stabbed him, the German rode off at once to the side. My nephew begins to scold him: "You pig, you knave! Killed my prisoner you have, and is that permitted?" The German but laughs and says: "Ja, Pan, are you Poles feeding the devil?" My nephew rails at him that you're a scoundrel, not a cavalier - to kill a captive already in our hands. But the German only rides on, laughing.
>What else was there to do? The Germans feel great rancor as the Turks robbed them of so much of their country, their provinces and fortresses; secondly, they are a natura crudeles [innately cruel] and know not how to observe knightly restraint in victoria.
While an actual decent idea to intern them in a third party's nation until prisoner exchanges can be hashed out, the smartass within me compels me to say sending them to Poland is just a more esoteric form of execution for Ivan.
What exactly are the rules of war on that?
Obviously Poland can't have prisoners of war if they aren't at war but they can intern foreign troops, right?
The real tactical implication is an increased logistical burden to store and manage them, using up manpower and resources otherwise able to be more productively allocated in a war.
But you can't just shoot them in the head because you're not savages. So you take the L and shove them in a stadium or some1thing
>Content note.
The following film presentation was made before the events of the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2022 and reflects the views of its time that paratroopers holding their objectives and armour columns reaching their destination, albeit late, were understood as failures of planning and execution. This content may be upsetting to Vatniks. Viewer discretion is advised.
>the Mariupol fighters
Sorry lad. Apparently you didn't hear the news? Accident at the prison. They all suffered accidental death. Then the prison was set on fire and the corpses burned. Very unfortunate loss of witnesses & evidence. You may have been distracted by the castration video at the time. ook ook banan!
Having these prisoners back is a drain on whatever resources Russia has left. And they're probably going to kanga court the Mauripol fighters into the noose anyways so there won't be anything worth swapping for.
>Da comrade, is of catch and releasings >Catch troop by shoot him, release him to front to shooting him again >Very earth conscience, may shoot same troop many time before dyings achievement secured >Never forgetting: all resource limited, inkludinsk human life >Very precious, conserving where possible, da?
Ukr and rus speech sound similar, right? Or am I invoking ludo narrative disco biscuits here?
If you're going to have them do useless work you mind as well send them to that radioactive area of Nevada and tell them to start digging. That way if the US ever gets back to building nuclear reactors we'll have this nice hole in the ground to toss the waste.
Same happened during Barbarossa.
Wtf do you do when you suddenly have a couple million POWs?
Answer: Get blamed for their deaths later.
At least this time they're not in the middle of nowhere without supply.
Tell their mothers they can come pick them up, if they come to Kiev personally.
Can you imagine the optics of Russian soldiers being picked up like naughty schoolboys by their moms?
Pretty sure something similar happened during one of the chechen wars, like a bunch of russian mothers traveled to grozny to talk to the local chechen warlord to get their sons back or something like that.
it did, in One Soldier's War the author describes an incident where they were on patrol in Grozny and saw ghostly shapes in the streets that were inspecting bodies, and they got so scared that they shot at them and it turned out to just be Russian mothers looking for their dead sons
This is actually a great idea. Those Russian moms will spread the word about what's going on like wildfire. THey won't want their kids to go back to fight either.
This is actually a great idea. Those Russian moms will spread the word about what's going on like wildfire. THey won't want their kids to go back to fight either.
Combine it with the Poland idea. Allies foot the bill, Russia looks terrible, Russian soldiers are infantalized for the amusement of all observing.
They've been offering that since the first days of the war. It's been suppressed hard in Russia. I don't know if anyone actually took them up on it.
>Russia accidentally kills civilians >/k/: THEY'RE DISGUSTING BARBARIC WAR CRIMINALS KILL THEM ALL >Ukraine is moronic and overstretched their logistics >/k/: LOL JUST KILL ALL THE RUSSIANS WAR CRIMES ARE BASED WHEN WE DO IT
>>/k/: LOL JUST KILL ALL THE RUSSIANS WAR CRIMES ARE BASED WHEN WE DO IT
Meanwhile on actual /k/
The real tactical implication is an increased logistical burden to store and manage them, using up manpower and resources otherwise able to be more productively allocated in a war.
But you can't just shoot them in the head because you're not savages. So you take the L and shove them in a stadium or some1thing
But you can't just shoot them in the head because you're not savages. So you take the L and shove them in a stadium or something
unironically yes, really, you stupid russoid homosexual. i support genocide of all russians, no matter the circumstances. total ethnic and cultural cleansing of russians from this earth can't come quick enough.
"Genocide" is a term applied to human beings getting exterminated. Fortunately, russians don't qualify for that category. Exterminating diseased vermin is a service to humanity.
Maybe so anon, but there's nothing he can do to stop me eating several MREs in a row. If the good people of Poland can be persuaded to do the same, well...
What I'm trying to say is, if there's a will there's a way.
There is no legal means to transfer POWs to a non-belligerent State.
But these are not POWs as it is not a war per Moscow. They are criminals. Send them to Haiti as long pig meat.
Sick and wounded can be transferred to a neutral country but that might require a treaty between ukes and russkies.
Having a ton of PoWs is great for Ukraine because those PoWs have families back in the motherland who would very much like to see them back home alive, creating domestic political pressure. Then there's the fact that it creates diplomatic pressures on the donbabwe kangaroo courts not to execute foreign fighters and azovites caught in Mariupol etc.
Unironically Ukraine could probably win by allowing every single soldier to become a POW and then revolting as often as possible
When soldiers start getting executed by the people holding them captive the west would have to intervene because the optics would be terrible and it would probably get written down in history as a new holocaust
Nobody gave a wet fricking fart when all the Mariupol prisoners "accidentally" got died. And then "accidentally" incinerated immediately afterward.
If that were to happen with Russian criminals who invaded a sovereign nation and raped and murdered and looted their way throughout the country for half a year, seems only fair the rest of the world will notice even less.
Would it be possible for Ukraine and Russia to set up a POW exchange program with the UN where their POWs can be held in neutral territories? Probably lessen the strain on both countries, but I'm guessing it's too unrealistic.
This war would be over in a month if Ukraine and EU made a deal to give vocational training to Russians in POW camps and a work permit in EU when they complete it.
Proposal (not mine): use euromonies to rent appartments in some sunny cheap place like Egypt or Turkey and send them there. Suddenly, half the Russian army deserts
nothing arestovich says is ever true
they may have some prisoners but the numbers are not significant
if they have too many Russia will do exchanges because they have many Ukrainians
Tactical implications? Prisoners?
I don't know anything about any prisoners.
We found them like that, in that there mass grave. Something wacky must have happened, but it must have happened before we got here.
Now, hear me out boys. If we were to expand Gitmo ... Those who cooperate in full will eventually get a chance to get out, so long as whatever host country that takes them never allows them to return to Russia.
The best thing Ukraine can do now is use some EU money to create decent pow camps and let some UN commission to be constantly present
It would cost a lot of money and the Russians sure as shit don't deserve it but it should show the world who's fighting who
personally I hope Ukrainian despite being dirt poor and not having oil and gas money treat their prisoners as best they can and if have problems transfer to a third country (is that illegal however?) that can keep them in good condition
just to show world that Ukraine is trying to improve while Russia is not
If we're going to be more technical about it, the most effective German weapon against Soviet POWs was starvation. Two out of three million dead from the start of Operation Barbarossa to New Years Day, 1942.
That's what death marches are for
Send them to Poland
yes
Send them to camps in Poland
finally, the real Polish death camps
Send them to Auschwitz
Can you just imagine the optics of that, setting up a temp camp for Russians there in the year of our lord 2022.
The Poles would definitely do that if the choice was up to them just to be memers.
What so they can whine about showers that didnt kill anyone for 80 years?
But after polish soviet war we got camps for kacaps. Wadowice, in poland known for place of birth le polish pope while for kacaps place of death their relatives.
Proposed quarantines sites of Russian POWs in Poland for purposes of protecting the racial hygiene of the public:
>Chełmno
>Bełżec
>Sobibór
>Treblinka
>Oświęcim
>Majdanek
If the Poles agree that's not a bad idea. The US has a lot of personnel there that could help with that.
Wouldn't it be both cheaper and more humane to just shoot them?
Poles would riot if you deny them vatnik blood
not if you can exchange them for your own later
slander, Poles are nice to POWs
they would feed the devil
memoirs from the battle of Vienna aftermath:
>The Germans, on the other hand, took no captives, but killed them crudelissime [with exceeding cruelty]. Even after death, they dragged their corpses about; flayed them, twisted the flayed strips into straps they might use; the third day after the battle, it was already hard to see a Turk on the battlefield with his body entire; and if any of our men was not cautious in leading a captive, and he rode among Germans, they would seize the prisoner out of his grasp and kill him.
>My nephew Stanisław Pasek was leading a Turk, some kind of important fellow, for he was handsomely attired and riding a beautiful horse; my nephew, having disarmed the captive, was leading him along on his horse, holding only the reins, when along comes a German, rides alongside the Turk, and stabs him with a dagger. The Turk only groaned; my nephew looked back, and the Turk, mouth agape, is slipping off his horse. Having stabbed him, the German rode off at once to the side. My nephew begins to scold him: "You pig, you knave! Killed my prisoner you have, and is that permitted?" The German but laughs and says: "Ja, Pan, are you Poles feeding the devil?" My nephew rails at him that you're a scoundrel, not a cavalier - to kill a captive already in our hands. But the German only rides on, laughing.
>What else was there to do? The Germans feel great rancor as the Turks robbed them of so much of their country, their provinces and fortresses; secondly, they are a natura crudeles [innately cruel] and know not how to observe knightly restraint in victoria.
I thought this was about ww2 until it mentioned turks
While an actual decent idea to intern them in a third party's nation until prisoner exchanges can be hashed out, the smartass within me compels me to say sending them to Poland is just a more esoteric form of execution for Ivan.
Cruel and Unusual punishments are war crimes, Anon.
but it's a special operation.
yes..yes. deport them to ''work camps in the east''
that would violate human rights conventions
the polish girls i know have absolutely enormous breasts. orks don't deserve to be surrounded by mega milkers. send them to camp chernobyl.
Is it time to heat the ovens?
What exactly are the rules of war on that?
Obviously Poland can't have prisoners of war if they aren't at war but they can intern foreign troops, right?
Frick that, send them all over europe. Infact make it a bidding war, I'm sure The Netherlands wants to have some over that whole MH17 debacle.
Yes! Polish camps like the old times
>Arrestovych
>Too many prisoners
k e k
>Zaporizhzhia
>a power plant
BRAVO UKRAINE, GREAT WRITING
Semen Semenchenko
Are separatists POW?
no, they've committed treason.
Finally, a use for all those captured mobile crematoriums the vatniks abandoned all over the place. Not a problem.
No. Fertilizer.
The real tactical implication is an increased logistical burden to store and manage them, using up manpower and resources otherwise able to be more productively allocated in a war.
But you can't just shoot them in the head because you're not savages. So you take the L and shove them in a stadium or some1thing
How about
said. Ask Nato partners (without Turkey or Hungary) to store them to keep them safe from Russian strikes?
Nato partners would need to be willing to take them and in extension become even more embroiled in this war. I don't think that's very likely
US and UK might, if only to debrief officers for intelligence. The other partners (besides Poland) mostly need not apply anyway.
What about Japan? Aren't they still technically at war with Russia?
Japan doesn't exactly have a stellar record when it comes to POW camps.
Sounds perfect then.
I'm not seeing the problem here?
WE DON'T HAVE THE PROPER FACILITIES TO TAKE YOU ALL PRISONER. SORRY. WE'D LIKE TO BUT WE CAN'T ACCEPT YOUR SURRENDER. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?
Based and umbrella-pilled.
>Content note.
The following film presentation was made before the events of the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2022 and reflects the views of its time that paratroopers holding their objectives and armour columns reaching their destination, albeit late, were understood as failures of planning and execution. This content may be upsetting to Vatniks. Viewer discretion is advised.
Patrician taste
As fricking trash as they are, a prisoner exchange for the Mariupol fighters and these scum is the right thing to do.
>the Mariupol fighters
Sorry lad. Apparently you didn't hear the news? Accident at the prison. They all suffered accidental death. Then the prison was set on fire and the corpses burned. Very unfortunate loss of witnesses & evidence. You may have been distracted by the castration video at the time. ook ook banan!
is that true? fricking barbarians
Having these prisoners back is a drain on whatever resources Russia has left. And they're probably going to kanga court the Mauripol fighters into the noose anyways so there won't be anything worth swapping for.
Unrionically you either need third party help, you need to release them, or you need to kill them.
>Da comrade, is of catch and releasings
>Catch troop by shoot him, release him to front to shooting him again
>Very earth conscience, may shoot same troop many time before dyings achievement secured
>Never forgetting: all resource limited, inkludinsk human life
>Very precious, conserving where possible, da?
Ukr and rus speech sound similar, right? Or am I invoking ludo narrative disco biscuits here?
>Arrestovich
XD
Surrendering requires the consent of two parties
Put’em on a chain gain in the Arizona desert breaking rocks into smaller rocks for 10 hours a day.
Gang***
if you fed them proper american food then they would be making some real fricking chaingains swinging a pickaxe all day
If you're going to have them do useless work you mind as well send them to that radioactive area of Nevada and tell them to start digging. That way if the US ever gets back to building nuclear reactors we'll have this nice hole in the ground to toss the waste.
give them to the Germans for science experiments and furnishing materials.
POWs?
They fell of a truck, yes all of them fell of the back of a truck
Does Dachau have any vacancies?
Deport them.....to AUSTRALIA!
Seriously, Russian POWs belong in a nation founded by convicts.
we're full
You could do what they did in WW2, just fence them off and don't feed them.
they are POW now, but they are also future slaves for Ukraine.
Same happened during Barbarossa.
Wtf do you do when you suddenly have a couple million POWs?
Answer: Get blamed for their deaths later.
At least this time they're not in the middle of nowhere without supply.
Tell their mothers they can come pick them up, if they come to Kiev personally.
Can you imagine the optics of Russian soldiers being picked up like naughty schoolboys by their moms?
Pretty sure something similar happened during one of the chechen wars, like a bunch of russian mothers traveled to grozny to talk to the local chechen warlord to get their sons back or something like that.
it did, in One Soldier's War the author describes an incident where they were on patrol in Grozny and saw ghostly shapes in the streets that were inspecting bodies, and they got so scared that they shot at them and it turned out to just be Russian mothers looking for their dead sons
This is actually a great idea. Those Russian moms will spread the word about what's going on like wildfire. THey won't want their kids to go back to fight either.
Combine it with the Poland idea. Allies foot the bill, Russia looks terrible, Russian soldiers are infantalized for the amusement of all observing.
They've been offering that since the first days of the war. It's been suppressed hard in Russia. I don't know if anyone actually took them up on it.
Some moms have gone to retrieve corpses, I know that.
>Russia accidentally kills civilians
>/k/: THEY'RE DISGUSTING BARBARIC WAR CRIMINALS KILL THEM ALL
>Ukraine is moronic and overstretched their logistics
>/k/: LOL JUST KILL ALL THE RUSSIANS WAR CRIMES ARE BASED WHEN WE DO IT
really?
>>/k/: LOL JUST KILL ALL THE RUSSIANS WAR CRIMES ARE BASED WHEN WE DO IT
Meanwhile on actual /k/
But you can't just shoot them in the head because you're not savages. So you take the L and shove them in a stadium or something
>WAR CRIMES ARE BASED WHEN WE DO IT
Yeah no shit moron, how new are you?
correct
>gigachad_yes.jpg
wtf i love ukraine now
I'm a moderate
Yes.
Ukraine is moronic for not realising so many Russians would surrender?
They probably expected stiffer resistance or a more orderly retreat.
No they expected them to die
I don't think the POWs should die.
They should be sent to AUSTRALIA.
unironically yes, really, you stupid russoid homosexual. i support genocide of all russians, no matter the circumstances. total ethnic and cultural cleansing of russians from this earth can't come quick enough.
>russian
Deserves no mercy.
>russian invader
Double no mercy.
>civilians who live there vs invaders taken prisoner
it's not a war its a
SPECIAL
MILLITARY
OPERATION
also russians are not human (more akin to chimpanzees) so they don't get human rights
"Genocide" is a term applied to human beings getting exterminated. Fortunately, russians don't qualify for that category. Exterminating diseased vermin is a service to humanity.
Yes.
Me: Geneva Suggestions
You: Violations of the Geneva Convention and their additonal protocols
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheinwiesenlager
Send them to Tunisia
i hear poland has some nicely preserved camps.
I wonder if the showers still work
anon, they never worked.
That doesn't mean they can't work
Depends on how you define cleaning
>Poland re-opens Auschwitz
Someone tell the Ukies to slow down, there wont be anything left to gas.
Won't work anon, monke has cut the gas supply to Europe
No reason to panic. Give me cartload of beans and half a dozen partiotic Poles and I'll have those vatniks gassed in no time.
Maybe so anon, but there's nothing he can do to stop me eating several MREs in a row. If the good people of Poland can be persuaded to do the same, well...
What I'm trying to say is, if there's a will there's a way.
Nobody should be subjected to modern GERMan culture.
The conscripts should be given the option to fight to liberate their homes.
aha! Russian 4D chess move! I knew it!
There is no legal means to transfer POWs to a non-belligerent State.
But these are not POWs as it is not a war per Moscow. They are criminals. Send them to Haiti as long pig meat.
they aren't POWs though, they're Disarmed Enemy Forces.
Sick and wounded can be transferred to a neutral country but that might require a treaty between ukes and russkies.
Having a ton of PoWs is great for Ukraine because those PoWs have families back in the motherland who would very much like to see them back home alive, creating domestic political pressure. Then there's the fact that it creates diplomatic pressures on the donbabwe kangaroo courts not to execute foreign fighters and azovites caught in Mariupol etc.
Fence them in, set up mines and re-run Universe 25.
Building more space for them moron
Gladiatorial arena mosh pit, last one who lives is free.
Unironically Ukraine could probably win by allowing every single soldier to become a POW and then revolting as often as possible
When soldiers start getting executed by the people holding them captive the west would have to intervene because the optics would be terrible and it would probably get written down in history as a new holocaust
Nobody gave a wet fricking fart when all the Mariupol prisoners "accidentally" got died. And then "accidentally" incinerated immediately afterward.
If that were to happen with Russian criminals who invaded a sovereign nation and raped and murdered and looted their way throughout the country for half a year, seems only fair the rest of the world will notice even less.
Damn if only they could set up a series of camps where they could concentrate the prisoners.
Send the useless ones back to the Russians more mouths to feed.
>sending people to russia
thats inhumane
FIRST ONE TO TALK GETS TO STAY IN MY CAMP.
Slave labor. Feed them gruel and force them to repair all roads and bridges.
Would it be possible for Ukraine and Russia to set up a POW exchange program with the UN where their POWs can be held in neutral territories? Probably lessen the strain on both countries, but I'm guessing it's too unrealistic.
I think someone claimed a while back that sending POWs to third party countries is a warcrime, though I have no idea how truthful that is.
That sounds moronic, particularly if both sides agree to it
Russia doesn't want most of their POWs back.
Without a declaration of war, aren't they all unlawful enemy combatants?
(OP)
Into the cum pits they go.
This war would be over in a month if Ukraine and EU made a deal to give vocational training to Russians in POW camps and a work permit in EU when they complete it.
Mate, those are russian soldiers.
They are too dumb for even manual labor
How can you have POWs if there's no war?
Proposal (not mine): use euromonies to rent appartments in some sunny cheap place like Egypt or Turkey and send them there. Suddenly, half the Russian army deserts
nothing arestovich says is ever true
they may have some prisoners but the numbers are not significant
if they have too many Russia will do exchanges because they have many Ukrainians
Used them for pigfeed
Fren, whatever did pigs ever do to you to deserve such a fate? Show some humanity.
I do not want my pigs to get hepatitis and AIDS. Just dump the mulch in a pit and compost. We're going to be behind for several harvests.
I mean they have the entire town of Pripyat where they can put them up.
Literally this
Such a good movie
Put em on trains, ship em off to Poland, let them deal with the problem.
Worked the last time around, didn't it?
Tactical implications? Prisoners?
I don't know anything about any prisoners.
We found them like that, in that there mass grave. Something wacky must have happened, but it must have happened before we got here.
Good recruitment pool
For the ones who aren't rapists and didn't torture
Now, hear me out boys. If we were to expand Gitmo ... Those who cooperate in full will eventually get a chance to get out, so long as whatever host country that takes them never allows them to return to Russia.
The best thing Ukraine can do now is use some EU money to create decent pow camps and let some UN commission to be constantly present
It would cost a lot of money and the Russians sure as shit don't deserve it but it should show the world who's fighting who
They just need to capture some of these and play the uno reverse card on the Russians.
Cut of their hands an back to Russia.
Send them to Nigeria
personally I hope Ukrainian despite being dirt poor and not having oil and gas money treat their prisoners as best they can and if have problems transfer to a third country (is that illegal however?) that can keep them in good condition
just to show world that Ukraine is trying to improve while Russia is not
Poland has declared that it has places for nearly 22000 officer POWs in a forest in the vicinity of Smolensk.
>Poland has declared that it has places for nearly 22000 officer POWs in a forest in the vicinity of Smolensk.
oh i see what you are saying
>Guy named Arrestovich handles the prisoners
WHO THE FRICK WRITES THIS SHIT
God
What? The Dnepr isn't deep enough all of a sudden?
Send ‘em to Brazil
They can't possibly have more prisoners than bullets.
Movement speed debuff
Send them to Hawaii and Texas as a gesture of good will toward surrendering Russians.
So, let me tell you about this wonderful product.
If we're going to be more technical about it, the most effective German weapon against Soviet POWs was starvation. Two out of three million dead from the start of Operation Barbarossa to New Years Day, 1942.